Tornadoes of 2011

January 30th, 2012 at 12:01 am by under Bill's Blog, Weather

   This map shows where the 59 killer tornadoes hit in 2011.  Four of those tornadoes crossed state lines.  A total of 551 people were killed (side note…a single tornado in 1925 killed more people than all the tornadoes in the world last year).   Most of the deaths occurred on two days, April 27th (Alabama) and May 22 (Joplin MO).   Of the 1688 confirmed tornadoes in 2011, the state with the most tornadoes was Alabama (177), followed by Mississippi (162), Texas (115) and North Carolina (113).  Six of the killer tornadoes were rated EF5.  They caused 281 fatalities.  Another 13 of the killer tornadoes were rated EF4.  They resulted in 160 fatalities.  So 80% of the deaths were caused by 19 large, violent tornadoes.  Of the 551 fatalities, we know that 111 occurred in mobile homes (over 20%).  Since far fewer than 20% of the population lives in mobile homes, it again shows that it’s best to evacuate mobile homes in a tornado situation and move to a safer location.  226 of the deaths occurred in permanent homes (40%), 92 were in businesses (have a plan if you’re shopping during a tornado watch), 7 occurred to people who were outside.  82 fatalities are unclassified at this time.   Michigan had 11 twisters, 129 reports of large hail and 442 reports of wind damage.  So, we were more than 40 times more likely to have thunderstorm wind damage than have a tornado and often severe thunderstorm winds cover a much larger area than a tornado (especially here in Michigan, where most of our tornadoes are small).  Eight states recorded no tornadoes (AK, HI, VT, UT, W VA, NH, RI, ID).   With the La Nina continuing, it’s likely we’ll have an above normal number of tornadoes again in 2012.  If I had to guess (and it’s only a guess), and it’s only a guess, I’d look for tornadoes to take aim at the same area as 2011 and also at the Ohio River area (Arkansas, Missouri, Tennessee, Kentucky, Ohio, maybe southern Illinois and Indiana).  While most strong tornadoes and tornado fatalities occur in the United States, other countries do get tornadoes.  Last year we had 12 tornado fatalities in Bangladesh, 2 in S. Africa and one each in Canada, Russia and the Philippines.

139 Responses to “Tornadoes of 2011”

  1. Greg says:

    Bill, I have a question. I live in a pretty rural area in Ionia County and there are no tornado sirens anywhere near me. I have internet and satellite TV, but when the weather gets bad (very windy, heavy rain, etc.) I lose both services. I purchased a weather radio for tornado alerts but in my area, all I get is static. Normal radios are static as well, I guess I just live in a bad reception area. Is there any other tool I can use to get tornado warnings or watches, because out here, the weather gets pretty bad sometimes and I have no way to know wether to seek shelter or not. On the safe side I always do, but it’s frustrating not being able to know when something bad is happening or when it is safe to come out. If you know of anything, please let me know. Last summer I estimate I went into the basement about 20+ times, and would like to cut that down if possible. Thanks!

    1. KSEA Caledonia-Cutlerville says:

      Bill if you do not mind I would like to know your response to this as well. We have access to these but it is helpful to know in a situation were these sources of information are limited during severe weather.

    2. Bernie (at da lakeshore) says:

      Go to radio shack and ask about an antenna amplifier/booster. They are about $15 and are well worth it, especially for people who have an analog television and a digital conversion box or F.M. radio antennas.

    3. GunLakeDeb says:

      Greg – I live where I can lose weather info, too (yeah – it’s distressing). I signed up for the free Skywarn training – if you go to the NWS website for Grand Rapids and click on “Skywarn” – you should find a listing for all the local counties who are offering that training (and if the Kent County session works better for you, by all means, go to THAT one, for example). It’s just a one-evening class – but you’ll be amazed at what you can learn.

      For me, the most important thing, is being able to “read the sky”. Recognize when to take cover; when to batten-down-the-hatches; or when to simply watch. You’ll become a Storm Spotter (“chasing” is a whole ‘nother animal); and can relay info to the NWS that can help them warn others. And the class is fun – I go every year because I always learn something new!.

    4. Bill Steffen says:

      If there’s heavy weather, it would be hard to imagine that I’d be asleep. If I’m here in town, I’d either be blogging, working the storm at the station or watching the storm. I have cable TV, cell phone, landline phone with/internet, NOAA Weather Radio, a battery operated radio (WOOD radio and B-93 are pretty good about getting weather info. out quickly, but others are, too), and friends that would likely call to let me know (more likely ask me what’s going on). I also am within range of a siren and I have a cat that sounds the alarm at the first crack of thunder.

  2. DanielG says:

    Severe weather reports on your Iphone if you have one? Lots of apps out there for that from TV8 and others. Internet hooked up to cable TV or land line phone. Land line phone rarely goes out for me up here on Myers Lake…but then again I am a fossil still hooked up to a phone line for internet service. BUT IT WORKS 99.8% of the time.
    Or hey, watch the skies! Know what looks bad and what is REALLY dangerous.
    Another thing I use is a police scanner. When you are tuned into lets say Ionia County sheriff you have every car on the road watching for trouble. I have found they are very good at reporting things when it gets really bad out there…the 98 Memorial day derecho comes to mind.

  3. fixxxer says:

    there are tons of weather apps for both android & the iphone that will tell you about any watches or warnings. might want to complain to your city about no sirens in your area, seems dangerous to me.

    1. GunLakeDeb says:

      I’ve been fighting for YEARS to get some sort of warning system here at Gun Lake – where on a hot, muggy day, hundreds (thousands?) of people are outdoors playing in/on the lake and not watching the weather….. to no avail. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen the telltale cloud of a gust front headed our way; then prayed as people caught in the wind-whipped storm try to make their way back to the boat launches….

      1. fixxxer says:

        id take this up with the local city counsel.

  4. Richard says:

    Hey Bill,

    Have noticed that there seem to be stronger and more active tornadoes, in the south, stronger then is normal for this time of year. I assume that this is may be due to the LaNinia weather pattern. My question: Is this an indication that we will have more severe weather to contend with than in a typical year and secondly is it perhaps an indication that warmer weather will arrive here in Michigan earlier? Since it appears to be warmer in the south, hence the stronger tornadoes that feed of the milder conditions Or is it wrong to assume any link between warmer weather in the south, and progressively and earlier warmer temps here in West Michigan?

    1. Bill Steffen says:

      La Nina years have about 20% more tornadoes and I would expect that to be the case this year. The highest chance of tornadoes relative to average will be from Arkansas and Missouri east and northeast (northern Gulf States, TN, KY, OH, IN, IL) with average to below average activity in the western High Plains. Last year was a bad year for tornadoes because they hit populated areas (out of all of SW Missouri, the tornado hit a very populated 4 square miles of Joplin – tornadoes hi Birmingham, Tuscaloosa, downtown Springfield MA, Minneapolis). The tornado toll would have been far less if the tornadoes had hit more rural areas. Despite that, people have been educated about tornado safety and we have a better warning system in place. A single tornado in 1925 killed more people than all the tornadoes in the world in 2011. I also think tornadoes will again be much more common in spring than in summer, and that the tornado season coming earlier than average.

  5. fixxxer says:

    Well just think, in 90 days or so we can start talking about severe weather. Im glad this winter is going by quick!

    1. Steelie says:

      Good Day,

      What Winter? Hehehe… ;-)

      Steelie

      1. Steve G says:

        It is currently in the mid 60s in Iowa. Could be a nice warm up coming our way this week. I’m about ready to give up on this winter (and then it will hit).

        1. fixxxer says:

          a warm up sounds good to me!

    2. Bluewind says:

      Lucky for people who like cooler weather the hot,muggy summer season is short. Nice and short! :) :)

  6. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

    Yeah I guess it would be a good time to talk about tornadoes since the past four months have been a relentless, long-lasting fall…with us now jumping right into Spring. The winter that wasn’t………..

  7. fixxxer says:

    winter is not done by far but i still think overall we will be in a milder pattern despite what RJ says. i too look forward to some warm temps and some severe storms.

    1. RJ (Rockford) says:

      Don’t get used to the warm temps people. The above average temps are about to be a thing of the past. By the beginning of next week we will be heading into a substantially colder pattern with a lot of chances for SNOW STORMS! We are about to head into the worst (or best) part of winter, depending on how you look at it! Get ready we have a lot of SNOW and COLD heading our way for most of February and March! BRING IT ON BABY!!!

      1. Travis (Oxford, MI) says:

        You said the same thing last week and the week before that… pattern shift, arctic blast, blah blah

        1. RJ (Rockford) says:

          Yes, Travis and we just received 6 to 12 inches of snow in West Michigan the last two days. Just face reality it is winter and we will be seeing a lot more SNOW, COLD and more SNOW!! Ya baby get ready to ROCK n ROll!!!

        2. Travis (Oxford, MI) says:

          We had 5″ here too. But we knew that. Bill said 1-3″ both days.

          There’s been talk of a pattern change by you guys since December, and it’s now February… hmmm

      2. I sure hope your right RJ…I hope your right.

        1. fixxxer says:

          Rj is a winter troll. He was on here all nov & dec preaching about no snow now look at him.

        2. INDY says:

          KEEP IT UP RJ THIS IS A WEATHER BLOGG !!!!! WOW WOW WOW!!! INDYY……

      3. RJ (Rockford) says:

        Just the facts fixxxer. Time for you to face reality!

        1. fixxxer says:

          The fact is you have no idea what your talking about.

        2. Tdot says:

          The more capital letters you use the better chance it comes TRUE!

        3. fixxxer says:

          Yeah tdot indy didnt do well in english class.

  8. big Daddy BC says:

    April 2011 is ranked as the most active tornado month on record with 753 tornadoes.
    http://www.weather.com/outlook/weather-news/news/articles/2011-extreme-weather_2011-09-28?page=2

    Whether or not you agree with the experts about climate change, these anomalous events are becoming less and less rare.

    1. Bill Steffen says:

      More people were killed in a SINGLE tornado in 1925 than in ALL the tornadoes in the entire world in 2011. The tornado numbers are higher in recent years because SPC is not screening out duplicate reports like they used to, and the fact that there’s 10 cars chasing every dark cloud now. If you look at strong tornadoes (F3 to F5), the numbers have been decreasing since he 1970s: http://jonova.s3.amazonaws.com/graphs/storms/tornado-strength-US-f3-f5-noaa.jpg

      1. big Daddy BC says:

        Are we using human fatalities as a measure of energy now?! LOL Get a grip. Last April is ranked as the MOST active tornado month on record.

        1. Bill Steffen says:

          It’s only active because more tornadoes get counted. I’ve explained that. This is from the website of the Storm Prediction Center (where they issue the Tornado Watches):

          “With increased national doppler radar coverage, increasing population, and greater attention to tornado reporting, there has been an increase in the number of tornado reports over the past several decades. This can create a misleading appearance of an increasing trend in tornado frequency. To better understand the true variability and trend in tornado frequency in the US, the total number of strong to violent tornadoes (EF3 to EF5 category on the Enhanced Fujita scale) can be analyzed. These are the tornadoes that would have likely been reported even during the decades before Dopplar radar use became widespread and practices resulted in increasing tornado reports. The bar chart below indicates there has been little trend in the frequency of the strongest tornadoes over the past 55 years. ”

          Here’s the graph: http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/img/climate/research/tornado/tornadotrend.jpg

          I hope you all read the above and look at the graph. We have 10 cars chasing every dark cloud these days. The same tornado can be reported from many different spotters and counted more than once. Smaller tornadoes that touched down briefly in open areas used to go unreported. Now they can be reported multiple times.

        2. big Daddy BC says:

          …Perhaps, if spotters were the only way tornadoes were identified. NOAA also reports that April of last year had more tornadoes than any month in history. Are you arguing that they counted every person’s account as a separate tornado? No one believes that. Fact is, 2011 was the second wettest year in recorded history worldwide and eleventh hottest. That can be directly attributed to our oceans being well above average. That’s energy, man. Remember what I taught you about the properties of water. With all that hot water and land, you’re going to get months like April. You also get winters like this one, which is likely to be our warmest ever. Tough to be a climate change denier during times like these, aye? lol

        3. Bill Steffen says:

          Your “adjusted” global temperature for 2011 was LESS THAN ONE DEGREE FAHRENHEIT above the 20th century average. The “adjusted” temperature of 2011 was cooler than 2010 and in fact COOLER than 10 of the 12 years since 2000. In 2011, the Antarctic icecap grew at nearly a record rate (compare now to one year ago): http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/S_timeseries.png Now compare the temperature from 1934 in the U.S. (where we can actually compare thermometer readings rather than guess what the temperature as like over the oceans, at the Poles and in other remote areas without data): http://0.tqn.com/d/weather/1/0/Y/0/-/-/01-12-1934Statewidetrank-pg.gif to 2011: http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&gbv=2&biw=1152&bih=672&tbm=isch&tbnid=06VATKW8Wbpu7M:&imgrefurl=http://www.wjla.com/blogs/weather/2012/01/record-warmth-in-2011-for-select-cities-14182.html&docid=WJJFj72HrxIOiM&imgurl=http://images.tbd.com/weather/2011_state_record.jpg&w=650&h=534&ei=5rwsT4SfB8PqOfm0rIAO&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=129&vpy=276&dur=341&hovh=203&hovw=248&tx=146&ty=103&sig=101147401651601815233&page=4&tbnh=151&tbnw=186&start=55&ndsp=20&ved=1t:429,r:10,s:55 Right now the global temperature is below average (note the global anomaly): http://policlimate.com/weather/current/raw_temp_c.html Last year was the 51st warmest year (right in the middle) for Australia (again, where we have reliable temperature data for the past century): http://joannenova.com.au/2012/01/2011-was-51st-warmest-year-in-australia/ Hundreds of people are dying from the cold: http://www.euronews.net/2012/02/03/more-than-200-dead-in-europe-s-big-chill/ and look at this from the Washington Post on the “mind boggling, historic cold” in Alaska: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/post/coldest-january-on-record-for-parts-of-alaska/2012/01/31/gIQAQVyIfQ_blog.html NOAA/NASA shows the cooler than average ocean water in blue: http://www.osdpd.noaa.gov/data/sst/anomaly/2012/anomnight.2.2.2012.gif Ocean temperatures are close to average…looking at the map, I’d say there’s more blue than yellow.

        4. Bill Steffen says:

          I’ll add that when we have La Nina, we normally get about 20% more tornadoes than an average year (and that should be the case again this year, unfortunately). We also have the coldest average global temperature ever measured in the satellite era right now. When it’s colder aloft, but average to warm at the ground, you have steeper lapse rates and stronger storms. I’ve mentioned this before…but what made last year so deadly was the fact that the tornadoes hit highly populated areas. Out of all of SW Missouri, the Joplin tornado hit one of the most populated 6 square miles. Same for the tornadoes in Birmingham and Tuscaloosa. Remember the tornado that went through downtown Springfield MA? That’s why the loss of life was so great.

          http://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/2011/f3-f5_1950-2011.jpg Note how the number of strong tornadoes fell with the warm PDO/AMO combination from the mid 1970s to 2008. Now that we have a cold PDO, that number is increasing.

        5. big Daddy BC says:

          Looks like you’re trying to explain away the effects of climate change. The air is colder aloft because greenhouse gases are trapping infrared light near the surface. That’s why it’s warmer at the surface, as you said. That’s Meteorology 101, and that’s why we’re seeing an increase in the severity of those storms. Last April saw more tornadoes than any month in history, period.

        6. Bill Steffen says:

          Once again….I’ve explained that. This is from the website of the Storm Prediction Center (where they issue the Tornado Watches):

          “With increased national doppler radar coverage, increasing population, and greater attention to tornado reporting, there has been an increase in the number of tornado reports over the past several decades. This can create a misleading appearance of an increasing trend in tornado frequency. To better understand the true variability and trend in tornado frequency in the US, the total number of strong to violent tornadoes (EF3 to EF5 category on the Enhanced Fujita scale) can be analyzed. These are the tornadoes that would have likely been reported even during the decades before Dopplar radar use became widespread and practices resulted in increasing tornado reports. The bar chart below indicates there has been little trend in the frequency of the strongest tornadoes over the past 55 years. ”

          You can also see in this graph from the Storm Prediction Center that strong tornadoes DECREASED from the mid 1970s to 2010: Here’s the graph: http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/img/climate/research/tornado/tornadotrend.jpg

  9. Travis (Oxford, MI) says:

    Might see record highs tomorrow in parts of Michigan:

    “Current observational analysis support raising fcst highs on tues into at least the low to mid 50s. May actually have to keep an eye on record highs for jan 31, which for dtw/fnt/mbs are 60/59/55 respectfully, all set in 1989.”

    1. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

      Bring on the record warmth its always nice to break records (that is why they are there!!)
      SlimJim

  10. Jeff says:

    Off topic, but… Is this Winter a freak occurence, or do Winters like this one sometimes happen? I guess my bigger question is, should we start to expect warm Winters from here on out? I’m not originally from Michigan, that’s why I ask.

    1. Stephen says:

      It was a warmer then average winter except for Seattle and Alaska I wouldnt expect this next year at all. I think next year were in for it.

      1. fixxxer says:

        Bill thinks so too. As long as i get a hot summer im good.

      2. big Daddy BC says:

        Bill thought this one was going to start in November with snow and go on through till spring. He also thought that spring, summer, and fall were going to be cooler than average.

        1. fixxxer says:

          Yes he did big daddy, i agree but no one knows how long ranges will turn out. Its all junk science.

        2. Bill Steffen says:

          At least I don’t lie like you do bigD – you said that Romney was a polygamist. He’s not a polygamist. You bore false witness. You’re a liar. We can’t trust anything you say. While it’s been warm here in the Great Lakes…the average global temperature today (from NASA – IR satellite data) is -0.3C. Global temperatures have leveled off over the last 10 years: http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&biw=1647&bih=745&gbv=2&tbm=isch&tbnid=-OP5TAlQiUGAvM:&imgrefurl=http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2011/06/18/giss-shows-no-warming-over-the-last-decade/&docid=EKUeSu-5xWwlOM&imgurl=http://stevengoddard.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/trend-24.png&w=640&h=480&ei=Q7ooT4KYCISQ2QWWu4y3Ag&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=448&sig=108268758193652979648&page=1&tbnh=122&tbnw=163&start=0&ndsp=32&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0&tx=102&ty=83

          More bad news for you alarmists: http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark/2011/09/chatting_with_a_noaa_meteorolo.php

        3. big Daddy BC says:

          Hey, at least I can forecast. The Big Daddy forecast from last October called for above average temps and precip. I win. LOL How embarrassing to be you.

        4. Bill Steffen says:

          Hey, even a broken clock is right twice a day. You gave no reasoning (you can’t). And the rest of the world is pretty chilly now, the central US/Canada stand out for being warm: http://policlimate.com/weather/current/raw_temp_c.html The NASA IR data says global temperature is -0.26C BELOW AVERAGE right now. Heckuva way to run a global warming disaster! LOL!

        5. big Daddy BC says:

          Maybe I’m a broken clock, but I am right…and you’ve been dead wrong, season after season. It’s not chilly worldwide. It’s the second warmest winter here (likely to be number one), and the worldwide ocean surface temperature for January 2011 was the 11th warmest January on record, at 0.63°F above the 20th century average of 60.5°F. When the ocean’s warm, precip goes up. Worldwide the land surface temp is up by almost a whole degree on average. It may be cold in a few places, but overall, we’re significantly above average in the ocean and on land. NOAA just named 2011 the eleventh hottest year on record worldwide. They also say “The 2011 globally-averaged precipitation over land was the second wettest year on record, behind 2010.”
          Have a look.
          http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/2011/13

        6. Bill Steffen says:

          Here’s the story without the spin: The “adjusted” global temperature for 2011 was LESS THAN ONE DEGREE FAHRENHEIT above the 20th century average. The “adjusted” temperature of 2011 was cooler than 2010 and in fact COOLER than 10 of the 12 years since 2000. In 2011, the Antarctic icecap grew at nearly a record rate (compare now to one year ago): http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/S_timeseries.png Now compare the temperature from 1934 in the U.S. (where we can actually compare thermometer readings rather than guess what the temperature as like over the oceans, at the Poles and in other remote areas without data): http://0.tqn.com/d/weather/1/0/Y/0/-/-/01-12-1934Statewidetrank-pg.gif to 2011: http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&gbv=2&biw=1152&bih=672&tbm=isch&tbnid=06VATKW8Wbpu7M:&imgrefurl=http://www.wjla.com/blogs/weather/2012/01/record-warmth-in-2011-for-select-cities-14182.html&docid=WJJFj72HrxIOiM&imgurl=http://images.tbd.com/weather/2011_state_record.jpg&w=650&h=534&ei=5rwsT4SfB8PqOfm0rIAO&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=129&vpy=276&dur=341&hovh=203&hovw=248&tx=146&ty=103&sig=101147401651601815233&page=4&tbnh=151&tbnw=186&start=55&ndsp=20&ved=1t:429,r:10,s:55 Right now the global temperature is below average (note the global anomaly): http://policlimate.com/weather/current/raw_temp_c.html Last year was the 51st warmest year (right in the middle) for Australia (again, where we have reliable temperature data for the past century): http://joannenova.com.au/2012/01/2011-was-51st-warmest-year-in-australia/ Hundreds of people are dying from the cold: http://www.euronews.net/2012/02/03/more-than-200-dead-in-europe-s-big-chill/ and look at this from the Washington Post on the “mind boggling, historic cold” in Alaska: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/post/coldest-january-on-record-for-parts-of-alaska/2012/01/31/gIQAQVyIfQ_blog.html NOAA/NASA shows the cooler than average ocean water in blue: http://www.osdpd.noaa.gov/data/sst/anomaly/2012/anomnight.2.2.2012.gif

        7. big Daddy BC says:

          You’ve cut and pasted this same comment in half a dozen spots. You must think you’ve got something good here. You don’t. The fourteen hottest years in history all occurred during the last fifteen. If that’s global cooling, like you claim, than I must live in backwards land. Last year was the second wettest in history. I’ve explained to you many times the properties of water and how the movement of water to the air requires a tremendous amount of energy. Where do you suppose all that energy came from? Go back to school, old timer.

        8. Bill Steffen says:

          Temperatures have held steady or even gone down during the past 10 years: http://stevengoddard.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/trend-24.png 24 of the 50 states have their hottest temperatures from the 1930s…only one state from the 2000s. The current global temperature is COLDER than average! http://media.reason.com/mc/_external/2012_02/7d5c2554d1cbf03712833d8010345697.png?h=318&w=550 and http://policlimate.com/weather/current/raw_temp_c.html

    2. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

      Warm winters are some thing that happens from time to time. There have been times in the past when there have been several warm winters in a row (1932, 1933 and parts of 1934) . Also not that long ago we had a warmer January then this one (33.2 in 2006, 30.2 in 2002, 30.0 in 1990 ect) BTW so far the month is running +4.9° at 29.2 and we (GR) has had 27.0 inches of snow.
      SlimJim

      1. Travis (Oxford, MI) says:

        Excellent research as always! Very refreshing on this blog

    3. Mr. Negative says:

      Most years it’s six months of snow, and 20 degrees every day. Every once in a while, a winter as comfortable as this one shows up. Easily 10 more years before we see this again.

      1. fixxxer says:

        Agreed!

    4. big Daddy BC says:

      Jeff, this IS one for the record books. But what’s more, so were the last three seasons, year, and decade! Don’t forget that the hottest thirteen years in history all happened during the last fifteen. We’re going to see more and more like this one, maybe not consecutively, but certainly enough to impact our climate. It’s interesting because those who like to deny there’s been any change prefer to use the last fifteen years to obtain an average and then claim the difference isn’t significant. They claim that the climatologists at NOAA, NASA, Berkeley, HadRU, and the IPCC are in cahoots to create a false sense of urgency. They claim it’s a conspiracy to raise our taxes. What they can’t explain is why climatological organizations world-wide have all come to the same conclusion. The Japanese Meteorological Agency just released a report you should read. http://ds.data.jma.go.jp/tcc/tcc/news/press_20111221.pdf

      Be careful to draw any conclusion based on thread headings left here. Bill Steffen and the gang are as far right at right gets. They work for LIN Media, a corporate media company that has no qualms about creating doubt in the minds of their viewers. Remember, a confused public is one that easily led.

      “On a statewide and seasonal level, 2011 was a year of temperature and precipitation extremes for the United States. Most states east of the Rockies had annual temperatures which were above average. Sixteen states had annual temperatures among their ten warmest. Delaware was record warm for the period, with an annual temperature of 58.2 degrees F (14.6 degrees C), or 3.5 degrees F (1.9 degrees C) above average. Texas had its second warmest year on record, with an annual temperature anomaly of 2.2 degrees F (1.2 degrees C), just shy of the annual record of 2.5 degrees F (1.4 degrees C) set in 1921. The western states had annual temperatures which were near average, with the exception of Oregon and Washington, which were the only two states with annual temperatures below average.” -NOAA

      1. bobcat says:

        Laughed right out loud…

        “Be careful to draw any conclusion based on thread headings left here. Bill Steffen and the gang are as far right at right gets. They work for LIN Media, a corporate media company that has no qualms about creating doubt in the minds of their viewers. Remember, a confused public is one that easily led.”

        And the rest of the media isn’t as far left as the left gets? LOL! Thanks God for FOX News.

        Remember, a confused big d is one that is easily led.

        1. David(Ashley) says:

          Could not have said it better myself. Big d is one of the biggest trolls around. Keep up the good work big d maybe we will see you headline at the laugh factory someday.

        2. big Daddy BC says:

          Actually, a chimp with finger paints would have done a better job. bobcat, you and the WOOD TV intern, David, are typical FOX News viewers and right at home here in DeVosville. I get that it’s convenient to have your opinion given to you by the right, but understand that your ideological misgivings are just a tool CEOs use to manipulate you. Take the idea that the media is owned by the left. With the exception of Ted Turner, all the major media outlets are run by megacorporations like Disney ($36 billion p/year), Newscorp ($30 billion), Viacom ($14 billion), and Time Warner ($26 billion).
          FOX News is owned by Newscorp and doesn’t hide its agenda, but you haven’t been getting the real news for years from any of these monsters. GE owns NBC and these days seem to prefer Obama over the right, but they just stay on the side of the winning team. They’ll give their money to whomever holds the reins. Point is, you’re an idiot.

        3. Bill Steffen says:

          More envy and more insults. You’re rabid fixation with corporate money shows you don’t give a whit about global temperature, but you just hate successful people and companies. It must be frustrating to watch global temperature level off these last 10-15 years. Look at this article out just yesterday: http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/weather/weather_news/United-Kingdom-Meteorology-Office-declares-Earth-hasnt-warmed-in-15-years WOW! Look at what they say: “Last week, the UK Met released its latest global temperature data to the world. It shows that the Earth has not warmed in 15 years. The warming ceased after the great super El Nino of 1998.” The UAH data says the same thing.

          No wonder Kevin Trenberth said: “The fact is that we can’t account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can’t.”

          THE TRAVESTY CONTINUES for you far-left, regressive zealots. The data and facts have turned against you.

          People are dying from the cold, not the heat: http://www.real-science.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/ScreenHunter_27-Jan.-31-06.19.jpg http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2105797,00.html

        4. bobcat says:

          AND again…

          big daddy says..

          “FOX News is owned by Newscorp and doesn’t hide its agenda, but you haven’t been getting the real news for years from any of these monsters. GE owns NBC and these days seem to prefer Obama over the right, but they just stay on the side of the winning team. They’ll give their money to whomever holds the reins. Point is, you’re an idiot.”

          you make me laugh…I HAVE been getting the REAL news for years! You just admitted that the media “stay on the side of the winning team. They’ll give their money to whomever holds the reins.”

          You called me an idiot. I’m not into name calling so I’ll just say, you are being misled. Best wishes.

        5. Bill Steffen says:

          Most people know that the mainstream media tilts left. Study after study confirms this and the general public sees it to: http://www.gallup.com/poll/149624/majority-continue-distrust-media-perceive-bias.aspx

          Watch how a news story is constructed. If there are two competing products, say two furniture retailers, we won’t run them back-to-back in a commercial break. That’s called “product conflict”. People tend to remember the second product or point of view more than the first. Watch how network news stories are constructed. First, does this news story warrant coverage? Second, were the two sides fairly balanced (same amount of time, same number of sound bytes) and see which idea comes last (usually the left side of the story. They do that a lot…just make some notes when you watch the national news.

          There are some obvious examples of media bias. The AP put 11 fact checkers on Sarah Palin’s book, none on Obama’s book. Mark Levin’s book, Liberty and Tyranny was a big best seller in 2009. The book was No. 1 on the NYT best seller’s list for 12 weeks, and No. 2 for six. His latest book Ameritopia is #1 today in Hardcover/Non-fiction on the NYT list: http://www.nytimes.com/best-sellers-books/overview.html Yet he’s had no interviews with the mainstream press, but every liberal author gets face time. You might also remember when Dan Rather and his rabidly partisan producer, Mary Mapes, tried to foist phony National Guard Memos on the public about George W. Bush. First, the memos came from a Democratic operative, Bill Burkett. Second, ALL of the experts CBS showed the documents to said “Don’t run the story”. They did anyway. The documents were reproduced in a couple of hours and were up on the Internet. I remember Dan Rather trying to defend himself saying that one of the 8 biggest and best computers in the world at the time was sitting in a National Guard Office in Cullman, Alabama. Burkett and maybe even Mapes and Rather should be prosecuted for trying to throw an election. With the internet, it’s easier to smoke out the liars and show who they really are…right bigD (who wrote here that Romney was a polygamist)?

        6. big Daddy BC says:

          What a load. Every liberal author gets face time? LIE. Palin had fact checkers but Obama didn’t? Lie. FOX NEWS ran over that book with a fine toothed comb, as did every other right-wing hack. Give us a break. You really hate Dan Rather, and that’s fine, but he’s not CBS. He’s an anchor man. You claim that the left side of the story is always last, but have absolutely no way of supporting that outrageous claim. There was a day when the media leaned left, but that day is past. As I demonstrated above, corporations own the news now. The headlines are nothing but fluff and titillation anymore. Take WOOD TV’s coverage of the tea throwing teacher. You, their chief meteorologist have claimed several times on here that we’re in a time of peace, that the wars are over. I’d laugh if it wasn’t so sad, but we’ve been at war for ten years plus now and you don’t even know. Why? I’ll tell ya, because no one’s covering it. Half the population is probably as ignorant as you. They’re drunk on stories about Lindsey Lohan and Art Prize.

        7. Bill Steffen says:

          Prove that FOX NEWS “ran over Obama’s book with a fine tooth comb. I’ll wait, while you frantically google to try and find something to back up another lie. All anyone has to do is keep a record of each news story that you see…what they cover, and how the story is constructed. Corporations have always owned the news…even PBS with their government funding is the CORPORATION for Public Broadcasting!

          And yeah…you hate Art Prize, only because of Rick DeVos…if it was completely the same and run by Rosie O’Donnell, you’d love it. Art Prize is a wonderful shot in the arm for the Grand Rapids economy. It brings people together and it exposes them to a wide variety of art forms. The 99% love Art Prize!

        8. big Daddy BC says:

          I don’t hate Art Prize. I’m an artist myself (amateur). I think we need more art in our lives. What I don’t agree with is your putting events like Art Prize up as a substitute for the rich paying taxes. I think the DeVos family has done a lot of good for GR, but that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t pay taxes like the rest of us. I do not exist to provide an infrastructure for people like the DeVoses and Steffens of the world to get richer and take more vacations. Sorry, man. You’re living off your viewers and that’s wrong.

        9. big Daddy BC says:

          Oh, by the way, here’s the FOX NEWS piece you asked for. That was easy. LOL

          “Fox News Turns Obama’s Kid Book Into Anti-American War Epic”
          http://gawker.com/5690436/fox-news-turns-obamas-kid-book-into-anti+american-war-epic

          For the record, I agree with the president.

        10. Bill Steffen says:

          We’ve seen some of your art: http://www.bigdaddybodyart.com/ I don’t think it’ll get you into Art Prize. It certainly won’t win when it’s up against this: http://www.artprize.org/artists/public-profile/49426

          I’m sure the DeVos family pays a lot of tax. They’ve done a lot for this community and deserve to be thanked for it. I do “live off my viewers” and I’m grateful for every one of them. It’s their choice. There are 100+ TV stations and I’m thankful that they tune me in.

        11. big Daddy BC says:

          No comment on the FOX NEWS Obama’s book reference? LOL

          Yes, you live off your viewers. Wealthy people like you will pay an additional .001% in taxes next year thanks to Snyder and the GOP. The working poor and middle class will pay exactly 1000x more than that. That makes you a welfare rat.

        12. Bill Steffen says:

          You have no idea how much money I have or don’t have. The “working poor” will pay a lot more if we let you regressives make utility bills “skyrocket”: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqHL404zhcU MSNBC (a liberal network) praises Governor Snyder because “New Federal data now show that Michigan’s economic recovery is on track to outpace all 50 states!” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CCTwob_p18 Check out the video!

      2. Kevin(Rockford) says:

        Based on readings from more than 30,000 measuring stations, the data was issued last week without fanfare by the Met Office and the University of East Anglia Climatic Research Unit. It confirms that the rising trend in world temperatures ended in 1997.

        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2093264/Forget-global-warming–Cycle-25-need-worry-NASA-scientists-right-Thames-freezing-again.html

        big daddy BC warming meme hardest hit

        1. Skot says:

          Left wing, right wing,chicken wing, who gives a turkey? Anyone who disagrees is categorized. Call me wacky call me kooky but 100 years of statistics is not spit to 4 billion years of evolution.

        2. big Daddy BC says:

          What the heck does evolution have to do with Anthropogenic climate change? And be careful how you use that term on this blog. Bill thinks the Earth is 6000 years old!

        3. Bill Steffen says:

          Another lie, bigD. I never said how old the Earth is, but I do know that in Earth history, we’ve had both palm trees and glaciers here in West Michigan and Exxon wasn’t responsible. I do know that you’re a serial liar…one after another because of your far-left regressive, repressive desire to force higher gasoline prices (which is working…it’s more than doubled since Obama took office) and utility costs on the poor and middle class. Obama sure took the wrong side of the Keystone Pipeline issue: http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2012/01/24/most-want-keystone-pipeline-built Look at all the union jobs that are lost. The overwhelming majority want the pipeline. The oil will go to China and get used anyway, being burned where they don’t have the pollution controls that we have in the U.S. It won’t have any affect on global temperature. But you’ll have your wish of skyrocketing energy/utility costs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aukM01UFXh0 It’ll really hit the poor, the middle class, the elderly, those with special needs, minorities and children.

        4. big Daddy BC says:

          You’ve referenced Noah’s Arc and the great flood several times on here. Usually not until the thread is buried though. You sneak all kinds of things in after these threads go to page three, stuff about democrats being NAZIs, about how Obama’s a socialist, and how public education should be abolished. Your new campaign to convince the public that I’m a lier is funny. It really shows how damaging the truth has been to your little house of cards.

          If I’m lying, how about telling us how old the Earth is right now. I’ll recant and apologize.

        5. Bill Steffen says:

          Noah’s Arc? Did Noah have part of the circumference of a circle? LOL!! I don’t think I’ve ever referenced Noah. Find out where I did or don’t make stuff up. And all I pointed out was that Hitler was a Socialist. In his infamous book “Mein Kampf”, the second of the two volumes is entitled “The National Socialist Movement”. That’s SOCIALIST! NAZI is short for “Nationalsozialismus” or National Socialism! I like Democrats…especially when they give good economic advice, like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AAEp0J_hzU

          The truth is that you are a liar (with an “a”). You said that Romney was a polygamist. He’s not. You lied. You bore false witness. You can’t win by telling the truth, so you lied. You’re a liar and we can’t believe anything you say.

        6. big Daddy BC says:

          Again, and I repeat, “If I’m lying, how about telling us how old the Earth is right now. I’ll recant and apologize.”

          Otherwise, your accusation is totally off the mark. Man-up or shut up, Weatherman.

        7. Bill Steffen says:

          You should recant because there is no reference on the blog to how old the Earth is or to NOAA’s…er, that’s NOAH’s ark (that’s ark with a “k”, not a “c”.) You lied when you called Romney a polygamist. He’s not a polygamist. The Mormon Church banned polygamy in the 19th century. It just shows how desperate you are to have to lie to promote your cause.

          My best to everyone at Occupy Delton.

        8. big Daddy BC says:

          Did you think we didn’t get your clever part of a circle comment above? LOL How about it? How old is the Earth, Bill? I’ll gladly recant. Is it 6000 years? …10000 years? Did cavemen ride dinosaurs, Mr. Scientist?

          Lie about what? Romney IS a super wealthy CEO, Mormon that got rich off the bailouts, supported state funded abortions, gay marriage, and socialized medicine, right? Which part of that do you deny?

          http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/10538-romneys-skeletons-his-bain-capital-received-millions-in-bailouts

        9. Bill Steffen says:

          How old the Earth is has nothing to do with this thread or anything on this blog. Romney is super wealthy. So what. So is Michael Moore. Check out Moore’s little summer cottage up on Torch Lake: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-P3Miffvm5fQ/Tr7ZGoo9JHI/AAAAAAAAon8/cMRuo7dhfBo/s1600/111112-michael-moore-house.jpg Maybe those 20 Occupy Kalamazoo losers (with the “F—Authority” sign) that were out on this sunny day should go picket Moore. You’re either prejudiced against Mormons or hypocritical. Harry Reid is a rich Mormon, you know.

      3. Bill Steffen says:

        Global temperatures are not getting warmer. Both the NASA UAH IR data and the UK Climate Center confirm that: http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/weather/weather_news/United-Kingdom-Meteorology-Office-declares-Earth-hasnt-warmed-in-15-years

        Here’s part of the article:

        “Dr. Nicola Scafetta Duke University in North Carolina, is the author of several peer-reviewed papers on GCMs. He argues the Met Office climate models show there should have been “steady warming from 2000 until now.”

        “If temperatures continue to stay flat or start to cool again,” Scafetta said, “the divergence between the models and recorded data will eventually become so great that the whole scientific community will be forced to question the current theories.”

        Professor Judith Curry agrees. She is one of America’s most eminent climate experts and works at the Georgia Institute of Technology. She argued it is becoming evident that factors other than CO2 play an important role in rising or falling warmth, such as the 60-year water temperature cycles in the Pacific and Atlantic oceans.”

        “The responsible thing to do would be to accept the fact that the models may have severe shortcomings,” Curry said. As for the lack of warmer in the last 15 years, she said that many scientists “are not surprised.”

        Read more: http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/weather/weather_news/United-Kingdom-Meteorology-Office-declares-Earth-hasnt-warmed-in-15-years#ixzz1l6RZv6l6

        Hey bigD – listen to Dr. Curry – do the responsible thing and accept the facts.

        1. big Daddy BC says:

          If the trend were ever to reverse itself, yes, scientists would have to rethink current theory. But, it’s not reversing, Magoo. The hottest years on record occurred during the last fifteen. As I explained in several threads (Oh how I wish you’d take a chemistry class), it requires seven times more energy to vaporize water than it does to raise it by one degree. The fact that we’re seeing an increase in humidity is further evidence of an increase in atmospheric energy. In addition, water has the highest specific heat value of any common compound. That’s the reason it stays warm when the sun goes down, and that’s the primary reason we’re seeing a slow down in the number of extreme heat records.
          Climate change is happening outside right now. You forecasted for a colder than normal winter. Holy smokes, this is the winter Jack Frost forgot! You’ve been wrong about every season for the last four. When you start getting that right, maybe we’ll start trusting your opinion about things outside of your expertise.

        2. Bill Steffen says:

          The trend IS reversing itself: http://stevengoddard.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/trend-24.png This is actual temperatures from 30,000 weather stations around the world…not the “adjusted temperatures” used to “cook” the books. There’s no “hide the decline” in that graph. Read my comment above. Many scientists and the general public are moving away from your rabid alarmism. You’ve cited Dr. Judith Curry before – from the BEST group at Berkeley. Look at what she says: ““The responsible thing to do would be to accept the fact that the models may have severe shortcomings,” Curry said. As for the lack of warmer in the last 15 years, she said that many scientists “are not surprised.”

          I wasn’t surprised, because I have an open mind. Dr. Curry has an open mind You’re a far-left regressive and you look at global warming as a means to make utility rates skyrocket on the poor and middle class: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aukM01UFXh0 ..to further your political agenda. You don’t really care that much about polar bears.

          24 of the 50 United States have their all-time record high temperatures from the 1930s (when it really was warmer in the summer than it is now – you can see that in the raw data that has not been manipulated). Only one state set their record high during the 2000s.

          Look at how the Antarctic Icecap has grown in the last year: http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/S_timeseries.png Amazing.

        3. big Daddy BC says:

          …Reversing itself!! Nice right-wing link. Are you typing that with a straight face. You predicted a cooler than average winter season. “Shovel Ready,” you said for November on. This has almost peaked as the warmest winter in Michigan history. 2011 was the eleventh hottest year on record worldwide and second wettest. That’s the correlation I’ve making for you since we began having these discussions many moons ago. I realize that you’ve preaching this cooling garbage since the eighties, but come on. When are you going to start acting like a professional? You’ve lost. End of story.

        4. Bill Steffen says:

          The “adjusted” global temperature for 2011 that you cite was LESS THAN ONE DEGREE FAHRENHEIT above the 20th century average. The “adjusted” temperature of 2011 was cooler than 2010 and in fact COOLER than 10 of the 12 years since 2000! In 2011, the Antarctic icecap grew at nearly a record rate (compare now to one year ago): http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/S_timeseries.png Now compare the temperature from 1934 in the U.S. (where we can actually compare thermometer readings rather than guess what the temperature as like over the oceans, at the Poles and in other remote areas without data): http://0.tqn.com/d/weather/1/0/Y/0/-/-/01-12-1934Statewidetrank-pg.gif to 2011: http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&gbv=2&biw=1152&bih=672&tbm=isch&tbnid=06VATKW8Wbpu7M:&imgrefurl=http://www.wjla.com/blogs/weather/2012/01/record-warmth-in-2011-for-select-cities-14182.html&docid=WJJFj72HrxIOiM&imgurl=http://images.tbd.com/weather/2011_state_record.jpg&w=650&h=534&ei=5rwsT4SfB8PqOfm0rIAO&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=129&vpy=276&dur=341&hovh=203&hovw=248&tx=146&ty=103&sig=101147401651601815233&page=4&tbnh=151&tbnw=186&start=55&ndsp=20&ved=1t:429,r:10,s:55

          A lot of scientists are moving away from global warming because temperatures have leveled off in the past 10 years: http://stevengoddard.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/trend-24.png and because of the Climategate emails. Remember what Dave the Biologist wrote:

          Dave | February 26, 2011 at 11:37 am | Reply

          “I also have to agree with Jim West. My firm ‘belief’ in AGW had already been undermined by some extremely bad papers about mosquitoes, arthropod borne disease, and the effect a warmer Earth on wildlife (I am a biologist). But, I assumed these were just opportunists jumping on the gravy train and that the problem was with the journal review process, not AGW.

          But the Climategate emails made it all too clear that there was no science at all in ALL these famous papers in Nature and other ‘prestige’ journals. Rather, all the sound and fury appeared to be generated by an unscrupulous cabal eager for grant money, fame, and lots of CO2 generating trips to warm and pleasant spots where they could regurgitate their story to a corrupted press and conniving politicians.

          As far as I can tell now, many of the assumptions of AGW appear to be false, nothing that one reads on climate change from Nature to Drudge is reliable.”

          Reasonable people with an open mind consider new data and facts and their minds are open to change. It leaves only the closed-minded to cling to the old, tired hyperbole (wasting time on old threads of a weather blog – desperately looking for some attention).

        5. big Daddy BC says:

          Okay, so here’s the sixth spot you’ve cut and pasted the exact same thing. Come on, man? Sad.

        6. Bill Steffen says:

          Hey, everyone – just read my comment and check out my links. Also, check this out: http://www.prweb.com/releases/prweb2011/5/prweb8416972.htm

      4. Bill Steffen says:

        Oh, one more thing. The link that bigDaddy posted here: http://ds.data.jma.go.jp/tcc/tcc/news/press_20111221.pdf says: “The annual anomaly of the global average surface temperature for the year 2011 (i.e., the combined average of the near-surface air temperature over land and the sea surface temperature) is estimated at +0.08°C* above the 1981-2010 average…” DID YOU GET THAT?? The average temperature for 2011 was a whole 8/100ths of a degree above average. A WHOLE 8/100THS! That’s average folks!

        1. big Daddy BC says:

          Why would anyone use the average from 81-2011, the hottest period in history. That’s a trick climate change deniers like to use to mislead the public.
          It’s the second warmest winter here (likely to be number one), and the worldwide ocean surface temperature for January 2011 was the 11th warmest January on record, at 0.63°F above the 20th CENTURY AVERAGE of 60.5°F. When the ocean’s warm, precip goes up. Worldwide the land surface temp is up by almost a whole degree on average. It may be cold in a few places, but overall, we’re significantly above average in the ocean and on land. NOAA just named 2011 the ELEVENTH HOTTEST YEAR ON RECORD WORLDWIDE. They also say “The 2011 globally-averaged precipitation over land was the second wettest year on record, behind 2010.”

          Read up, Magoo.
          http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/2011/13

        2. Bill Steffen says:

          NOAA (not me) uses the most recent 3 decades for their averages. Here’s the NOAA page on the 30-year average: http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/normals/usnormals.html There’s lots of links so you can learn how and why this is used. The only reason to continue to use 1961-1990 is to use the coldest decades of the century so you can make the present look warmer. If you go back and use a century average, you have to use data that is consistent. Before the satellite era (1979) we only measured surface temperature accurately over about 14% of the globe.

          Here’s the current global sea surface temperature anomaly map: http://www.osdpd.noaa.gov/data/sst/anomaly/2012/anomnight.2.2.2012.gif Everyone reading this please look at the map at the link. Now, blue is water that is colder than average and yellow is water that is warmer than average. This is from NASA and NOAA…satellite and buoy data. Really, does that look like the “11th warmest in history”?? Really?? Emperor’s new clothes!!! LOL

          The “adjusted” global temperature for 2011 was LESS THAN ONE DEGREE FAHRENHEIT above the 20th century average. The “adjusted” temperature of 2011 was cooler than 2010 and in fact COOLER than 10 of the 12 years since 2000. In 2011, the Antarctic icecap grew at nearly a record rate (compare now to one year ago): http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/S_timeseries.png Now compare the temperature from 1934 in the U.S. (where we can actually compare thermometer readings rather than guess what the temperature as like over the oceans, at the Poles and in other remote areas without data): http://0.tqn.com/d/weather/1/0/Y/0/-/-/01-12-1934Statewidetrank-pg.gif to 2011: http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&gbv=2&biw=1152&bih=672&tbm=isch&tbnid=06VATKW8Wbpu7M:&imgrefurl=http://www.wjla.com/blogs/weather/2012/01/record-warmth-in-2011-for-select-cities-14182.html&docid=WJJFj72HrxIOiM&imgurl=http://images.tbd.com/weather/2011_state_record.jpg&w=650&h=534&ei=5rwsT4SfB8PqOfm0rIAO&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=129&vpy=276&dur=341&hovh=203&hovw=248&tx=146&ty=103&sig=101147401651601815233&page=4&tbnh=151&tbnw=186&start=55&ndsp=20&ved=1t:429,r:10,s:55
          It’s certainly been a warm winter here, but a quick look at the globe shows that there are areas where it is much colder than average (Europe and Alaska) and the global IR temperature is below average right now: http://media.reason.com/mc/_external/2012_02/7d5c2554d1cbf03712833d8010345697.png?h=318&w=550 and http://policlimate.com/weather/current/raw_temp_c.html

        3. big Daddy BC says:

          Okay, so this is the seventh place you’ve posted almost the exact same thing. You’re tireless. LOL It really doesn’t matter what average you use. It’s hotter than ever before whether you use the century average, the 60s, 70s, 80s, or 90s. By all accounts it’s hotter than average, Bill…way hotter. You claim that the climatologists at NOAA, NASA, Berkeley, HadRU, and the IPCC are in cahoots to create a false sense of urgency. You claim it’s a conspiracy to raise our taxes. What you can’t explain is why climatological organizations world-wide have all come to the same conclusion. The Japanese Meteorological Agency just released a report you should read. http://ds.data.jma.go.jp/tcc/tcc/news/press_20111221.pdf

        4. Bill Steffen says:

          It’s not “hotter than ever before”. At least several years in the 1930s where warmer than 2011. These links show that the Earth is COOLER THAN AVERAGE RIGHT NOW: http://media.reason.com/mc/_external/2012_02/7d5c2554d1cbf03712833d8010345697.png?h=318&w=550 and http://policlimate.com/weather/current/raw_temp_c.htm If you read the Climategate emails, you’ll see who was “in cahoots”. You’re team at Berkeley knows that global temperatures have been steady for 10 years. Here’s what Dr. Curry said: ‘There is no scientific basis for saying that warming hasn’t stopped,’ she said. ‘To say that there is detracts from the credibility of the data, which is very unfortunate.’ Here’s the Hadcrut global temperature graph for the past 10 years: http://stevengoddard.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/trend-24.png

          You’re free to believe anything you want…that elephants can fly or that Milli Vanilli will stage a big comeback…but it’s a fact that global temperatures have leveled off and you look foolish to try and spin otherwise.

  11. INDY says:

    Jeef Feburary will be a verry cold month with lot’s of lk effect snow for WEST MICHIGAN!!!! Look at Bill’s 8 day forcast the end shows highs in the 20′s!! INDYY!!

    1. fixxxer says:

      No….you mean “indy’s” sprite induced forecast says that.

      1. INDY says:

        With a pill from Fixxer ONLY!! INDYY

        1. fixxxer says:

          I dont take pills except excedrine after im done reading these posts.

    2. RJ (Rockford) says:

      Yes, temps in the 20′s with SNOW! COLD AND SNOW after all it is winter!

      1. fixxxer says:

        Ok troll!

        1. Tim (Spring Lake) says:

          I’m not sure where anyone is seeing temps in the 20′s in the 8 day forecast, unless you’re looking at low temps. Everywhere I look shows high temps at or above freezing through Feb 8. I guess if you keep typing it enough, you hope it might come true?
          Outside of that, interesting snowfall yesterday. I still have a couple inches left in my yard, saw nice piles of snow in Holland today, but Grand Haven had green yards all over the place.

        2. Travis (Oxford, MI) says:

          Don’t mind the snow crazies, Tim. No matter what the long-term says they say BIG SNOW and COLD.

  12. fixxxer says:

    I cant wait till summer so we can get rid of these “winter nut trolls” on here.

    1. INDY says:

      Good luck 4 months is a long time from now do us all a flaver fixxer u go away and come back in summer hummer!!! INDYY

      1. fixxxer says:

        More like under 90 days indy.

    2. RJ (Rockford) says:

      fixxxer you might as well go hibernate. You will be a lot happier, because you just hate winter so much. Go hibernate and leave us alone. Bring on the SNOW AND COLD!! Ya baby we want a lot of snow storms over the next 8 weeks. Winter is here to stay people!

      1. Jennifer K (NE GR) says:

        You are such an idiot. There is not going to be snow and cold over the next 8 days moron.

        1. Travis (Oxford, MI) says:

          RJ is turning into INDY, I’m afraid… we lost him….

        2. bobcat says:

          wow. nice jen.

        3. INDY says:

          eatside is the best!!! LIKE WE CARE!! INDYYY

      2. INDY says:

        KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK RJ IT IS WINTER TIME A FEW BLOGGERS DON’T UNDEESTAND THAT FACT!!!! INDYY

  13. INDY says:

    I CANT WAIT TO SEE IT SNOW TO MAY HAHAHAAAAAAAAA GET READY !!!!! INDYYY

    1. fixxxer says:

      Anything and everything excites you.

  14. Jeff says:

    Well, I like all seasons, but I’m originally from Las Vegas, so I’m done with the heat. I enjoy Summers here as they are not too terribly hot for the most part, it’s warm enough to go to the lake and the river and I think that’s just fine. During my time in the military I was stationed in Texas, Mississippi, and Oklahoma, so I’m not all for sweating the minute you step outside, Michigan is a great place weatherwise, and I certainly enjoy all seasons.

    1. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

      Summers are great here, winters are not so great. Case in point. Even thought this winter will end up above average temp wise and below average snow fall wise, It still is cold out and the GR area should end up with around 50+ inches of snow.
      SlimJim

      1. fixxxer says:

        Id say the past few summers have been pretty warm here as it should be. No one should have to wear jackets in july like we did in 2009.

        1. LM (GH twp) says:

          Summer of 2009 kind of did pass us by.

        2. fixxxer says:

          Yeah it royally sucked!

        3. Bill Steffen says:

          July of 2009 was the coldest July ever in 7 states and in G.R. and we were 2nd coldest in Michigan. http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/images/07statewidetrank.png

        4. Bill Steffen says:

          The four coolest Julys ever in G.R. have all occurred in the past 20 years.

    2. bobcat says:

      Thanks for your service, Jeff! As you have seen, everyone has a different opinion on winter. This one is FAR from typical! Plan on experiencing a REAL Michigan winter starting next November. I hope. :)

      1. fixxxer says:

        Or not!

  15. LM (GH twp) says:

    Jeff, the summers are great here with lots of fun outdoor recreation activities! Very comfortable summers and lots of daylight!

    1. Me :-) says:

      Yes, the summers here are great. But the winters are terrible. I am glad we’re almost half way. Even a easy winter like this is way too long.

      1. Travis (Oxford, MI) says:

        Two thirds done with winter if you’re going by average snowfall!

    2. LM (GH twp) says:

      In the winter, try to outdoor winter activities & sports if you haven’t already. Makes it go by a lot faster & it’s fun!

  16. INDY says:

    LET IT SNOW LET IT SNOW LET IT SNOW !!!!!!! IT’S WINTER TIME AND READ ALL ABOUT IT!!! WHEN IT’S HOT FIXXER WILL CRY COLD MUST TAKE AFTER HIS MOTHER!!INDYYY….

  17. Bluewind says:

    Hard to believe how mild it will be when its so chilly tonight! Michigan weather at its best!

  18. Jerrod (Hartford) says:

    Hate to take this off topic. Magnitude 2.4 earthquake shook southern Wisconsin tonight just northwest of Chicago metro at 6.6 miles depth.

    1. INDY says:

      We felt that one out at the YARDofBRICKS my 70 inch BIG screen shut off when the house shook!!!!! INDYY

  19. Barry in Zeeland says:

    Man this is crazy, 47 at midnight at the end of January with snow on the ground yet? This is going down as the best January in history! If only they all could be like this, WARM and MELTING snow!!

      1. Skot says:

        Everyone just DEAL with what you get. HOT or NOT. Go Outside, grill, shovel, cut grass, pull weeds or stay inside for all I care. THIS IS MICHIGAN !!! IF you dont vote you cant complain. If you live here? It is what it is. Crack a SPRITE, Go out into the night. Put some Ribs on the grill and Enjoy. SHHHheeeesssh.

      2. Skot says:

        Hey fixxx, remember separation of church and BLOG?? Its not AMEN, its THANK GAWD.

        1. Irish coffee says:

          Speaking of separation….a wise man asked God to show him the difference between heaven/hades.God presented him with 2 doors to open.The 1′st door opened to a room of famished,weak,sad looking people sitting around a table w/ a fresh pot of stew on it.They had long spoons attached to their arms-long enough to reach the pot, but too long to reach their mouth.The man then opened the 2nd door to a similar room filled w/ happy,well-fed people who had the same pot of stew and long spoons attached to their arms.The wise man pondered for a moment then relented saying he didn’t understand the parable.God explained that the 2nd room was heaven…where people understand love allows us to feed one another….

        2. bobcat says:

          Very cool, Irish!

    1. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

      Usually Europe’s weather is indicative of what we will see in the future weeks to come….I guess we shall see if the cold makes it here.

  20. Kenneth says:

    I live in northwest Alabama, Bill and I’ve just discovered your fine blog. It must have been nerve-wracking and sometimes sickening to have watched what was going on back on April 27th. For most of us down here, our power was knocked out around 4:00 AM by the first round of tornadoes and 80 mph straight line winds so we had little idea of how bad things were all around us. A woman I do business with from Colorado called in the afternoon to see if I was still alive. She had been following the outbreak on the Weather Channel and about all the terrible destruction that was going on. At the time I was watching a wall cloud just to my west that I could only describe as awe-inspiring. I told my friend that I was okay and glad I wasn’t a little further west as I walked back to my desk. Upon getting there, I turned and walked back toward the window and to my shock, there it was coming over the treeline about 500 yards to my west! It wasn’t moving northeastward as they normally do, it was moving almost due east! Leaves were flying out of the trees and rising in the air as it moved in very quickly. I blurted “I’ve gotta go” and took off for the bathroom, dropping my phone and breaking it.

    For years we’ve watched supercell storms moving directly towards us from Mississippi but they always seem to split upon reaching the Tennessee River, half going south of us and the other half crossing the stateline into Tennessee. Just a couple of weeks earlier on April 15th we had watched it happen again as the counties to our south got hammered and as usual we talked about how lucky we were. April 27th, I crouched in the darkness of the bathroom, the building shaking, the water gurgling in the commode and amid what sounded like a thousand snakes hissing my ears, I just kept repeating, “we never should have talked about it,” certain that my good fortune had ran out. After what seemed like forever (it was probably less than a minute because the storm was traveling at 60 mph), it was over. The tornado didn’t touch down until it went into Tennessee and we only suffered slight damage to the building and fencing.

    A few days later, as a site manager for a self-storage company, I was told to drive 30 miles down to a little town called Phil Campbell that had been hit hard and offer free storage to the citizens for as long as they needed it. I grew up playing baseball against a lot of the folks there and as I drove into town, I was not prepared for what I saw. I couldn’t identify where I was, utter devastation in all directions. Finally to my left I saw a lot of people sitting in folding chairs beneath a tent. On one side of them was a cemetery, on the other side was where their Church once stood. In the little close-knit town, 30 people had been killed, many in horrific ways by the vicious 1.25 mile wide EF5. I’m sure they were there for funeral after funeral. I felt tears coming to my eyes as I saw a man standing in the middle of what had been a small subdivision. I stopped to offer him the use of our facility but as I walked through the remnants of who knows how many homes, I knew there was no point. He was looking out toward what used to be a wooded area across the road that had been reduced to stumps with no limbs or bark. I told him why I was there and how I felt kind of dumb for offering storage to people who had nothing. He looked back at what had been his house and acknowledged that it was pretty bad and he hadn’t seen his dog since Wednesday morning. He looked over to where the trees had been and said maybe he’ll come home soon. Realizing now is not the time, I got back in my car and drove past the mourners who weren’t thinking about their about their belongings at that time and went home.

    On top of that I had been unable to get in touch with several friends south of Phil Campbell. From 2004 to 2009 my job at the time involved spending a lot of time in a little town called Cordova, Al. It too had been destroyed. A strong tornado hit them early that morning and as people were out cleaning up and helping their neighbors, a violent EF-4 roared through town on virtually the same path killing 14. I tried for three days to get in touch with anyone down there with no luck. By then I had resigned myself to what would surely be bad news. On the fifth day my cell phone rang and I saw a familiar name pop onto the screen! I was so relieved. He and the people I knew had been lucky. Like me, they had abandoned home phones in favor of cell phones. With no electricity their phones had died leaving them in the dark as well as anyone trying to call them. That was a ray of sunshine in that whole bleak week.
    I appreciate the prayers and kind words I’ve read in your blogs and the readers comments. It’s been almost a year and I still have trouble coming to grips with what happened. Since I was pretty much clueless to what was happening, when I finally found out I felt like someone who had awoke from a coma to find a terrible disaster had happened and could do nothing about it. Of course there would have been nothing I could have done about it anyway but it still haunts me. To this day I still roam the internet when I can, reading forums where people were posting during the outbreak, reading minute by minute descriptions of what they were witnessing and the horror of it, while I stood in a dark room.

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