Monday Evening/Night Showers/Storms

September 17th, 2012 at 5:10 pm by under Bill's Blog, Weather

Local  Showers and a few non-severe thundershowers moving through the area.  Two trees down from thunderstorm winds in the Ludington Area.   Many reports of small hail with these storms in E. Wisconsin and N. Lower Michigan.  One report of golfball-sized hail near Rogers City.  These storms could also produce gusty winds.  We have a Significant Weather Advisory for the entire area (that’s a step below a Severe T-Storm Warning) for the possibility of hail and gusty winds.  There’s also a Marine Warning in Effect.   Gale Warnings will be out for Lake Michigan for Tuesday for waves 5-8 feet.  Stay off the piers and breakwaters.  There is also a chance of a waterspout as the cold air comes across the relatively warm waters of Lake Michigan.

Here’s WOOD-TV Interactive Radar, looping radar. Check out the current conditions, regional radar, GRR radar, northern Indiana radar, Chicago radar and Milwaukee radar. Here’s the College of DuPage Radar Map, Storm total rainfall, the local warning/advisory map and the National warning/watch/advisory map. You can checkout the latest Grand Rapids NWS discussion, the Northern Indiana NWS discussion (includes the Michigan Counties that border Indiana), the discussion for Northern Lower Michigan, and Eastern Lower Michigan. Here’s the Spyglass Condos Weather Station the S. Haven GLERL station, the Muskegon GLERL station, the Grand Haven Steelheaders webcam and weather station, and the weather station at Holland State Park. Check out the WOOD lightning tracker and U.S. lightning and links to webcams. Here’s the infrared satellite loop (night) and the visible satellite loop (daytime). Here’s Lake Michigan water temperatures. Here’s storm total rainfall for W. Michigan and E. Michigan. Here’s data from the mid-lake buoy.

Also…Tigers lost again, 3 back now…Lions did the same in SFO.

100 Responses to “Monday Evening/Night Showers/Storms”

  1. Swatz_Zoo(Cedar Springs) says:

    God I never thought I’d be debbie downer! But I’ll believe it when I actually see it arrive safely and completely solid entering Kent County, then I might get excited, radar looks good but we’ve all seen how it pans out, granted I know we are in a whole different pattern now but still let down after let down I just don’t get excited any more. However over the last 3 days my geese have been HORRIBLY obnoxious so they might be telling me something as well as the bodometeor and I’ve had this urgency to get things picked up and cleaned up and stored away before I even saw radar intensify so I guess something may be brewing and actually have a chance. But again won’t believe it until it reaches Kent without making a V around us.

    1. GunLakeDeb says:

      You ARE a Debbie Downer…LOL!! And I’m sort of feeling the same way: will the Lake Michigan Storm Shredder do it’s usual number to this lines of storms – or how long will it take for the infamous “split” to show up? But I’m headed outside to secure stuff – just in case…..

      1. Swatz_Zoo(Cedar Springs) says:

        GunLakeDeb, you feelings of the infamous split is valid, look at the small “split” about to happen to that line as it just is leaving the lakeshore and entering the lake. Unless it pulls itself together over the lake I don’t know.

        1. Cort S. says:

          Looks like the storm shredder is having no visible effect on these storms. We must find another scapegoat for this event. How about…

          CONSIDERABLE HEIGHT FALLS/FORCING FOR ASCENT WILL OVERSPREAD THE REGION IN TANDEM WITH THE SURFACE COLD FRONT…CONTRIBUTING TO AN INCREASE IN TSTM DEVELOPMENT THIS AFTERNOON INTO TONIGHT. SOME HAIL AND PERHAPS LOCALLY STRONG WIND GUSTS WILL BE POSSIBLE WITH THE STRONGEST STORMS. HOWEVER…A MORE ROBUST SEVERE THREAT WILL BE PRECLUDED BY MARGINAL MOISTURE CONTENT AND THE PRESENCE OF AN INVERSION/WARM LAYER AROUND 700 MB WHICH WILL LIMIT THE DEGREE OF AIR MASS DESTABILIZATION.

          (SPC)

        2. GunLakeDeb says:

          Aw Cort – it’s so much more fun to visualize something looking like Godzilla, rising from the shoreline and just eating the storm as fast as it can arrive….LOL!!!

  2. Zachary Lassiter says:

    Tennessee is looking at a couple tornado warnings… 4 of them right now

    http://warningweather.com/recent/tornado

  3. Jordan (Twin Lake) says:

    I feel the same way I just don’t believe it anymore even just plain rain events fall apart before they get here :(

  4. INDY says:

    Wow look at that line of storms coming how many days has it been since it got stormy over thee YARDofBRICKS!! INDYY IS READY!!!

    1. Jordan (Twin Lake) says:

      Probably won’t happen as usual I hate to be negative now but my faith in storms has grown weaker :(

      1. Swatz_Zoo(Cedar Springs) says:

        Just like all the storms have and did and still do all season, mine to Jordan and here I have always been so pumped but this season has absolutely SUCKED for storms for Kent County. I’m not even cleaning my camera and getting it primed, it’s a “Why bother”.

        1. Lisa (Caledonia) says:

          Hopefully, the pattern changes and we get slammed with a mega blizzard this winter! :) (I love snow…)

  5. INDY says:

    B ill getting dark to the west looks like a train of rain coming with a sprite tonighttt INDYY is right!!! INDYY..

  6. Jordan (Twin Lake) says:

    WOW I would love to be in Rogers City today they are now under their 3rd severe thunderstorm warning of the day yet we haven’t even had one this season :( ugh always north or south maybe next summer well have more luck?

  7. Cort S. says:

    The HRRR model (here) is showing the storms on a weakening trend after sunset, even before they get close to Kent County. Still could be lightning and thunder in some cells. This fits well with the narrow 5% severe risk area that SPC outlined mostly west and north of Kent County.

  8. Rocky says:

    We will see no severe storms and very little rain. Bring on the snow storms!

  9. INDY says:

    Bring on thee storm, line is getting fat that’s a good sign for West Michigan Thunderstorm Warnings coming!! LIGHTNING THUNDER MAKES ME STRONGER!! INDYY..

  10. Jack says:

    Lots of BUSTS This Year… We Shall SEE.. ;-(

    1. Swatz_Zoo(Cedar Springs) says:

      That is the new moto around here “We shall see”. Looks promising but as soon as it hits land the promise is broken.

  11. ~Sherry~ (Comstock Park) says:

    Seems like sooner or later the odds will turn in our favor.

  12. INDY says:

    watzee Sheery and Jack are READY 4 a good storm!! INDYY..

    1. Swatz_Zoo(Cedar Springs) says:

      Indy I’ve been ready and waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting. I’ll get excited if they hold like they are over then lake when they hit land go through Ottawa and still alive and well.
      Sherry, SPC/NWS didn’t put out any watches so MAYBE something will happen, seems like when they call it out nothing does happen but when they don’t something does, but still won’t get excited yet. I think so many have lost faith in the models, forecasts, excitement that this is why the blog has more or less died no one believes it until they see it which many haven’t seen much.

      1. ~Sherry~ (Comstock Park) says:

        Yeah, this has been the most boring year for weather events that I can remember. I am looking for a big switch to an active pattern real soon here or we will all go crazy!! :)

        1. INDY says:

          lolololololo! Bring it!! indyy..

      2. Cort S. says:

        SPC’s forecast of an afternoon-developing, short-lived, briefly marginally severe line of storms to form over N. Illinois, E. Wisconsin, Lake Michigan, and NW Michigan came true. Their 5% risk area was basically unchanged since 2 a.m. Sunday: http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/outlook/archive/2012/day2otlk_20120916_0600.html

        You can file this away in your memory banks as a successfully forecast, non-hyped, low-end event. You’ve got to try harder to mentally catalog the successes or your storm depression and lack of confidence in meteorologists is going to keep getting worse. Sorry 2012 screwed you out of a lot of storms. It did that to a lot of storm-lovers around the United States. :(

  13. Swatz_Zoo(Cedar Springs) says:

    I’m already feeling the temps cooling a bit

  14. Jordan (Twin Lake) says:

    I do however still believe we will have a long season of lake effect heavy snows due to the very warm waters Bill what is the average LM water temp this time of year?

  15. Jordan (Twin Lake) says:

    Oh look they took us out of the significant weather advisory nothing new there ha lol! thanks once again NWS and SPC for a complete fail I think no one relies on you guys anymore!

    1. Cort S. says:

      It’s as though you didn’t even read their forecasts. There was no hype here for this one.

      And by the looks of it, Twin Lake got a line of 50+ dBZ on radar which moved through at 7:55. Complete fail for you it was not.

  16. Mike (Mattawan) says:

    Yeah I really dont think anything significant will come of this… we have had WAY too many busts this year in the way of storms….. but the winter months may bring more storms with the warm lake as Jordan (twin lake) was mentioning above…. we are in for quite the cool down for sure though… fall is upon us! Over the past few weeks ive been seeing some leaves on some trees beginning to change.

  17. INDY says:

    Yeea Bill’s blogg has been down last few months good things to come like winter storms get the BIG daddy hat out I can’t wait We will all be togeather tracking a Blizzard soon until then it’s nice blogging with everybody toonight I hope we see lightning zooms and thunder zooms!! INDYY..

    1. ~Sherry~ (Comstock Park) says:

      Sounds good Indy!!

    2. Mike (Mattawan) says:

      YEAHHHHH BRING ON THE SNOW….. michigan is always guaranteed a good several SNOW storms…… every year…….. it will at least HELP make up for the lack of severe storms.

  18. Jessie (Caledonia) says:

    Hahahaha, yeah…like that’s going to survive over here. I’m going to go waaay out on a limb here and say..it’s going to be bust number 93476477 for the year.

  19. Ray says:

    Why don’t they just issue a T-storm watch Bill?

    1. Cort S. says:

      These storms are not severe. No severe thunderstorm watch required.

  20. Taco Boy says:

    Grand river is running low when I drove across a bridge I could see the bottom today in the sun light.

    1. Lisa (Caledonia) says:

      All the artistic random rock piles (peace signs, etc.) that were built in the river between the Eberhard Center and Mariott are visible this afternoon… The seagulls were loving it.

    2. GunLakeDeb says:

      On Saturday, I was part of a Thornapple River Cleanup crew – and the drought has done something surprising to the river (at least where WE were paddling, upstream from Irving) – it’s crystal clear!! Normally, the T’apple is coffee-colored and opaque, because it gets a lot of swampland draining (and the silt/tannins in that water) – but the swamps are dry. Now the river is mostly receiving water from springs; and THAT water is nice and clear. I was astounded by all the fish we could see while paddling! I wonder if the same thing is happening to the Grand River??

  21. INDY says:

    Bill storms are ahhh coming.. Getting dark lets see some sparks tonight… INDYY..

    1. Swatz_Zoo(Cedar Springs) says:

      They aren’t here yet Indy, until they arrive on my door step I won’t believe it, I see the line weakening. It will be a rain event but I certainly can feel the cool down already.

    2. Jack says:

      Hey Indy : Speaking of Sparks… How’s Uncle Sparkie… Doing ? … Lol… ;-)

  22. Cassie in Caledonia says:

    I’m wearing my Bills Blog shirt..we better see a good storm!!

  23. Lisa (Caledonia) says:

    Lots of lightning in the southeast US: http://thunderstorm.vaisala.com/explorer.html

  24. INDY says:

    Peyton Manning and thunderstorms tonight swatzze check out thee game!! My Manning is a bronco I am sad!! INDYY//

    1. Jack says:

      Are You Ready for Some LIGHTING . MONDAY NIGHT THUNDER !!!!!!!!!!!!

  25. INDY says:

    Uncle Sparks is doing good just got done with his 90 days of fame or shame !!! Staying heathy ….INDYY..

    1. Jack says:

      Great to hear U.S., Is doing Good… Say HIGH to Him and Ole Aunt Edna…… HARVEST is Coming SOOOOOON.. Peace.

  26. Brad (Lawrence) says:

    Looks like we might get a trace from this system. Hopefully this CRAP pattern changes soon or we will have another dull winter. Snowboard saw the slopes 3 times last year. I like to board on REAL snow, not the ice they make at the slopes.

  27. INDY says:

    Bill seeing lightning to the west ….INDYY..

  28. Nick (Grand Haven) says:

    I can hear thunder!!

  29. Jessie (Caledonia) says:

    A dull WINTER is GOOD.

    1. John (Holland) says:

      No. We need to break the drought.

      1. fixxxer says:

        No snow is fine by me.

  30. Jordan (Twin Lake) says:

    WOW I take back what I said earlier what a storm had over a 1/2″ of rain in less than 15 minutes lots of lightning very very LOUD thunder and some hail also flooding everywhere so I take back what I said lol!

  31. Jack says:

    Is That Thunder I Hear ??…. NOPE…. Just Rumblings of Chili Dogs and Beer…Today’s Lunch.. Lol.. :-)

    1. Swatz_Zoo(Cedar Springs) says:

      LOL, dead quiet and BORING up here.

  32. Jordan (Twin Lake) says:

    Cold front has now gone through went from 72 to 63!

  33. Swatz_Zoo(Cedar Springs) says:

    Oh what is it that I see??? The typical split! http://www.wunderground.com/radar/mixedcomposite.asp?region=a4&size=2x&type=loop

  34. John (Holland) says:

    Thunder and lightning over the lake. I love that feeling.

    Bill: the last few days have been hazy and the sunlight has had a slight reddish-orange quality to it. It reminded me of when I lived in Florida during the Georgia wildfires a few years back and the sunlight was tinged red. Is there anything causing this, or am I imagining it?

  35. North side of holland says:

    Is raining ACORNS on our deck :)

  36. Jack says:

    If it Wasn’t For Bad Luck….. We Would Have , NO LUCK AT ALL….Bust.. Again…. THE BUBBLE RULES… SNORING..!!

  37. Jordan (Twin Lake) says:

    Looks like you guys who are complaining in GR that they won’t get anything well take a better look at the radar I think you will and it’s intensifying as well!

    1. Cassie in Caledonia says:

      Yes it looks like it is gaining a little strength inland

    2. Jack says:

      Hey Jordan….NOT…..Loooook AGAIN, It’s Falling Apart as It Comes Towards Kent Co…G.R…. Time For FOOTBALL..!

      1. Cassie in Caledonia says:

        Um..what radar are you looking at? Not what I am seeing.

        1. Jack says:

          Um…. Scroll Up….

        2. Jack says:

          Check Out Wood Lighting Tracker, Watch The Lighting DIE…How Sad… :-( . Back To Football..Peace….. ;-)

        3. Cort S. says:

          Yes, there is a fairly linear consolidation of storm cells which have intensified very slightly over Ottawa County.

          I think this radar is pretty nice to look at:
          http://weather.cod.edu/satrad/nexrad/send.php?type=GRR-N0Q-0-6
          You can click on 6, 12, 24, etc. on the left side of the page and see an animation of however many frames you select.

        4. Cort S. says:

          Re: WOOD lightning tracker. At 8:52, lightning was dying out. At 9:11, fresh lightning ramped up within the Ottawa and Allegan county cells.

          However, now storm tops appear to be collapsing. I expect the lightning to diminish now as these cells roll over Kent County, unless an embedded cell within this line get get a vigorous updraft going. But I think this new development is already trending downward, which is not surprising, seeing how transient these storms are tonight due to a modest shear profile.

      2. Swatz_Zoo(Cedar Springs) says:

        That is why I don’t get excited any more even if they maintain over the lake because once they hit inland it’s been all over with for us

  38. Brad (Lawrence) says:

    I can hear thunder in the distance.

  39. Barbara Egeler-Bailey says:

    I hear/see NOTHING in SE GR.

  40. bobcat says:

    Thunder south of Holland. Sounds nice! (I like the non-severe stuff!) :)

    1. bobcat says:

      Well there was one that was way too close! Looks like some good stuff coming right at you too, Fix!

      1. fixxxer says:

        Nothing good here. Jusy a few rumbles of thunder.

  41. millekat says:

    Thunder here in NE Grand Rapids! A little something is better than nothing!

    1. Jack says:

      VERY LITTLE is The KEY WORD… AGAIN….Boring….

  42. Cort S. says:

    The Ottawa County line is splitting up as of the last radar volume scan. Only the embedded cells over Hudsonville and Marne have cores aloft now. The stuff in the middle is raining itself out.

    1. Cort S. says:

      The Hudsonville cell appears to also be raining out. The cell moving over Walker is the only one in GR metro that has a sustained updraft yet. Expect most of the lightning to be confined to that one now.

    2. Brad (Lawrence) says:

      And for some reason NOBODY seems to be surprised by this. It’s the typical pattern we have been stuck in for what seems like forever. I’d like to say Oh well, maybe next time. Problem is, next time it will be just like this time. HA! :P

      1. Cort S. says:

        Fairly sizable blob of good thunderstorms that came onshore in Van Buren county though. Close miss for you in Lawrence.

        1. TinainVBcounty says:

          Starting up here…

        2. Brad (Lawrence) says:

          Yup, I could hear the thunder and see some nice lightning, but the rain failed me. So close, yet so far away. :P

  43. Cassie in Caledonia says:

    Well it has rained it’s self out. We need whatever rain we can get though..it’s still really dry!

  44. Ray says:

    A couple close strikes by Plainfield and Leonard!

  45. TinainVBcounty says:

    Went close window … saw nice blue lighting bolt in the field. Got my blood going! :)

    1. TinainVBcounty says:

      Good thing because after that, nada!
      .

  46. fixxxer says:

    And in comes the crappy cool weather! ;)

    1. Jack says:

      good night to watch football…. Fixxxer…. ;-)

  47. Jordan (Twin Lake) says:

    Goodnight all! have fun at work and school tomorrow while I have the day off lol not to be mean

  48. SDL says:

    Hey Bill,
    Was talking to a friend tonight as we had some thunder and some much needed rain here in Muskegon. Topic came up about thunderstorms. I graduated from Northern Michigan University. Spent several summers up there and I was telling my friend about the convergence zone in the middle of the U.P. in the summer time ran from Newberry across the peninsula….Karl Bohnak a good meteorologist from the Marquette TV station up there used to explain how winds off Lake Superior (from the north) and winds off Lake Michigan (from the south) formed a convergence zone right across the middle of the U.P. my buddy didn’t think that ever happened…could you back me up on this theory….I saw it numerous times. Thanks.

    1. GunLakeDeb says:

      I have a kayaking friend who lives near Eckerman – and he says the same thing: the rain always dives to the south of him. Since the forest fires of early summer were north of him, I’d have to agree!

    2. Cort S. says:

      On summer days when the regional winds are light and the lake breezes are the big game in town, yes, there can be a lake breeze from Lake Superior and one from Lake Michigan which can converge somewhere in the middle of the eastern U.P.

      Here is an example:
      http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/goes/blog/archives/10337
      Click on the second picture in the blog post to see an animation of the satellite imagery. You can see no clouds (or dissipating clouds) over the Lakes, and clouds forming and being maintained over the land. In this example, you can also see a convergence zone between Lakes Nipigon and Superior.

  49. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

    It rained for quite some time last night. We received 0.38″.

    1. GunLakeDeb says:

      I had gone to bed, convinced we were just going to get another “dampening” (the stuff that rolled through around 10:30 PM) – then I was awakened at midnight by a terrific downpour! YAY! No thunder or wind – just heavy rain for several minutes. Enough to gather just over a quarter-inch of much-needed rain.

      1. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

        We had a couple rumbles of thunder with the first wave of rain, and just a nice downpour with the 2nd round.

Leave a Reply