Insult to Injury – Monday PM update

November 3rd, 2012 at 2:41 pm by under Bill's Blog, Weather

   Click the image to enlarge.   A major storm is going to hit the same area that got slammed from Hurricane Sandy.  The latest GFS has a steady wind of 38 mph at JFK in NYC Weds. evening with a temperature of 38 degrees.  This won’t be as bad as Sandy in NJ and NY, but there will still be a cold rain at the coast…snow farther inland and some additional beach erosion.  The weather stays rather tranquil in Michigan.  We may see some light showers Tuesday night/Weds. AM – but the models are forecasting a tenth of an inch or less.  The weekend gets windy and warmer with temperatures reaching the low mid 60s.  The strong cold front (with showers and maybe a t-shower may not arrive until Sun. night or Monday.  Sunday was a calm day with an average wind of just 2.4 mph in G.R.

30 Responses to “Insult to Injury – Monday PM update”

  1. michael g (SE GR) says:

    GFS drops the cold hammer on us for the middle of the month too!

    1. Cort S. says:

      After the nor’easter, both the GFS and Euro are bringing down a strong upper-level trough into the Western U.S. This develops an active low pressure system which affects the Plains and Midwest. Before the cold hammer comes down, Michigan will enjoy milder temperatures as this system approaches, toward the end of next week (Nov 9-10).

      Echoing this idea, the CPC is giving Michigan and the Midwest good chances of above-normal temperatures and above-normal precipitation during that period. GR’s normal temperatures for Nov 9-10 are 50-51.

  2. michael g (SE GR) says:

    Here’s what the Euro is throwing at the north east..

  3. INDY says:

    Yeaaa and look at the warm air 2 our west!!!! mid 60′s are coming!!! Insult to fizzers not so bad east coast storm thats what your Blogg should read Bill!!! Get the dumb a$$ hat out!!!!!! …..Have a greatttttt Sunday go Lions …..INDYY….

  4. whatBillwantstosaybutcant says:

    Voting “no” on prop 3 would prevent all of this horrible weather…….i think.

  5. Cort S. says:

    Some of the latest U.S. statistics on Sandy:

    110+ people dead. More than all of the other affected countries combined. One of the top 4 deadliest U.S. hurricanes in the U.S. in the past 40 years. In the past 40 years, Katrina was the worst by far, but Sandy will be right up there with Ike and Rita.

    Damage estimates: $10-55 billion. Using 2010 dollars, 55b would be the 2nd costliest hurricane after Katrina, 20b would be the 5th costliest hurricane, and 10b would be the 13th. It’s looking more and more likely that the actual damage figures will be closer to 55b than they will be to 10b.

    Power outages: 8.5 million customers lost power. The 2nd most of any natural disaster, after the March 1993 blizzard (aka the “storm of the century”).

    Lowest pressure measured in the contiguous U.S. in any location north of Cape Hatteras, NC: 945.5 mb (27.92″).

    1. Jack says:

      Wow,I Thought Irene, Would Be Right up There as Well, ( only because that’s My Wife’s Name ) Lol. Also any Figures on How Much the Music Ind. Raised , Last Nite ?

  6. Brenda says:

    Feel sorry for them. This weather system is something that they don’t need, that’s for sure.

  7. INDY says:

    What a nice cool morning outside!!! INDYY…..

  8. Cort S. says:

    “The hybridization of Sandy”
    How a superstorm came to be
    National Center for Atmospheric Research

  9. Barry in Zeeland says:

    Bloomberg businessweek cover for this week:

    1. michael g (SE GR) says:

      Yeah, I got that on Friday. Keep in mind, Michael BLOOMBERG endorsed Obama this week, because, get this, he would do the most to fight global warming. What a joke.

      1. big Daddy BC says:

        No, of course Mitten would do more. Those repubs always do what’s right for the environment. It’s never about money for them, eh, wait a minute. Oh, yeah, it’s ALL about money for them isn’t it. Nevermind.

        1. Bill Steffen says:

          It’s NOT WARMING – global temperatures have been steady for over a decade:

          Hansen admits it: The five-year mean global temperature has been flat for the last decade…” – James Hansen et al.

          CO2 emissions in the U.S. are falling:

    2. Bill Steffen says:

      Barry – I agree with the “stupid” part – not the “global warming” part. I’ll bet that Bloomberg and the editor that put this on the cover have little climate background.

  10. Steelie says:

    Good Day,


    Joe Bastardi Show Parallels To The 1950s, And Tells Us What to Expect Looking Forward


    1. Lisa (Caledonia) says:

      Interesting discussion in the comments on that article, where they talk about what could happen if a hurricane hit the East Coast. This was back in July — and now look what happened with Sandy. Looks like what Joe was talking about came true.

      1. joanne says:

        Can you imagine if FEMA was privatized like Romney wants to do with it? You would have money grubbing giant corporations swooping in to make huge profits on our citizens. They would be charging over $1000.00 per hour to run equipment for starters. They would be on the clock while the equipment wasn’t moving until the disaster areas were literally bled dry. Thank God that Obama has handled this like a true Presidents and has muscled the government into quick disaster relief.
        Our thoughts and prayers are with all of the families dealing with this disaster.

        1. Bill Steffen says:

          Ask the people on Staten Island or the New Jersey Coast about how effective FEMA has been. Would you rather depend on FEMA for disaster relief? Or private organizations like the Red Cross and Salvation Army? The government either did or should have known this storm was coming. Joe Bastardi’s forecast was spot on 5 days in advance. The government could have positioning relief supplies and done a better job of getting people out of harm’s way. They could have had generators ready…a plan to bring in gasoline (oh, wait, you people don’t believe in gasoline…you’d rather have Al Gore show up with a solar panel!).

          When the private sector does the job better, the government shouldn’t interfere with their good work. You’re comment is telling, because the President shouldn’t have to “muscle the government”. That means the government approach is wrong to begin with.

        2. Cort S. says:

          Awww darn, this thread was almost politic-free…

          Maybe the next one…

        3. joanne says:

          I agree on the government approach. His muscle was aimed at the obstructionist Republican party that was ready to stop relief in an attempt to make the current administration look bad.
          As far as your disaster relief, you would have the government waiting in every town with generators and gasoline? LOL Now you want BIG Government. What a hypocrite.
          For your limited information: During a disaster, there are always disasterous things that happen! Duh Government organizations can’t stop all of them, but in this situation, FEMA and our military should be commended for their efforts. You obviously know nothing of what is happening or happened to the East Coast. You would sadly try to smear the brave people who are coming to aid the hurt and helpless. Shame on you Bill

        4. Jevon Murphy (Chicago) says:

          Bill…Don’t forget I had an accurate forecast about 7 days out (not triing to brag or be rude).

        5. Bill Steffen says:

          You’re right Jevon…nice going.

          JoAnne – governments don’t stop weather disasters…we can’t stop a tornado, hurricane or blizzard.

          The “brave people on the East Coast” would have been served with the government making sure an adequate supply of fuel and relief supplies was available after the storm (they knew it was coming). Go where there has been any major weather (not climate) disaster and ask the locals if the Federal government was the first and best responder. That’s private organizations like the Red Cross and Salvation Army and local government (except where the disfunctional left is in charge like New Orleans).

    1. Bill Steffen says:

      That’s why those who have studied the Proposals have pretty much come to the same conclusion as the M-Live group of newspapers:


      Proposal 1, emergency financial manager: Yes

      Proposal 2, collective bargaining: No

      Proposal 3, renewable energy standards: No

      Proposal 4, home health care: No

      Proposal 5, super majority to change on taxes: No

      Proposal 6, new international bridge: No

      Proposal 1 is the only one of the Proposals that does not rewrite the Constitution to favor a narrow special interest. It’s worded backwards, so a YES on one really means NO. That’s why my friends and pretty much every media outlook are on board with the phrase “ONE is best, vote NO on the rest. Just remember YES on Proposal 1 and NO on 2 thru 6, the proposals that would tamper with the Constitution to benefit rich, special interests.

      1. Jevon Murphy (Chicago) says:

        Thanks for the help Bill!

  11. Jevon Murphy (Chicago) says:

    Long Term…Looks like in the Mon.-Weds. (Nov. 12th-14th) time frame we could see a system approaching from the West with a decent shot of cold air behind it, but first of all, ahead of the fropa (as Stephanie Abrams likes to say) we’ll see a line of strong to Severe storms with some very heavy rains and mild temps. (upper 40s to mid 50s on Sun., 40s and falling on Mon.). After fropa West of L. MI we could see a brief shot of a wintry mix and for W. MI could see some L. Effect/Enhancement Tues. morning thru Weds. morning, however according to model consenus as of now (00z gfs) it’ll only be marginally cool enough for pure snow, so maybe a wintry mix of some L. Effect/Enhancement.
    More details as we get closer to those dates…

  12. Chrispy says:

    I’ve been watching the 6-10 and 8-14 day CPC outlooks. That big blue bubble from the north is creeping this way!!!! Is it gonna get here and for how long?

    1. Travis (Oxford, MI) says:

      Apparently, the cold air retreats now and Michigan stays warmer than average.

      1. Chrispy says:

        I saw that retreat as well and tried to be in denial, but I geuss I can’t stay there :(

        Relatives are coming from Georgia for Thanksgiving. Any chance of a white Thanksgiving in any of the models? They like the snow and we’ll be celebrating Christmas with them on that day too.

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