Tornado in Italy
Check out the video of the tornado in Taranto, Italy. The twister injured at least 20 (some reports now say 1 missing and 40 injured. The tornado hit at 11:30 AM Weds. – local time (5:30 AM EST) – and damage appears to be at least EF2. Here’s a link to more video and pictures. Taranto is in southern Italy on the Mediterranean Sea. Here’s video of a tornado that hit the city in Oct. 2010.
Note: The north mid-lake Michigan buoy was retrieved either yesterday or this morning. The south buoy (40 miles west of Holland) was still there at Noon today showing a water temp. of 47.8, 3.3 foot waves and an air temperature of 35.2. The satellite loop shows mostly sunny skies across our area.
That is a big tornado. Nice video.
even italy gets more storms than we do.
I had one this year remember…
Right but your on the eastside of the state.
: )
I see we are still entrenched in no SNOW pattern and we are headed into an above average temperature pattern! Golf is looking GREAT. All signs point towards a winter bust. SNOW lovers are in trouble and it is time to face reality. The long range models are worthless and some people will always say cold and snow is on the way even though it never happens!! Wake up people and stop living in a fantasy world!
I see you changed your name and are still a broken record.
Yep he was RJ now Rocky
I am ROCKIN and ROLLING ROCKY form ROCKFORD!
Dude, get ahold of yourself. I haven’t seen this kind of bluster since the election, and it has no place in science.
Rock on John and face reality!!!!
It’s not even December. Even last year – the “Year with no Winter” – we still got snow. Not enough for the snow lovers; and it surely broke the hearts of anyone who depends on a Michigan Winter for income. So I’m just going to keep wishing for snow and you can keep golfing.
Get Ready – the new CPC December forecast will say above average temperatures and below average snowfall! Winter lovers get ready to face the music!
Yep agreed some snow lovers just don’t know how to face it!
Well, apparently my victory is well within reach. Can’t wait to see Bill wearing that I LOVE BIG DADDY shirt on the air when he loses our little bet. LOL
What exactly is the bet?
There is no bet. He’s lying again. Just like he lied when he said that Romney was a polygamist. Romney is not a polygamist. BigDaddy is a liar.
I said average to warm with increased precip. He said colder, but wouldn’t weigh in on the precip. Bawk. If I win, he wears an I LOVE BIG DADDY shirt on the air. If he wins, I donate $10 toward a bbq.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/08/in-a-surprise-co2-emissions-hit-20-year-low/1#.ULl6kWfe_0o
Rocky, i see your using the reverse physiology on the weather topic. I don’t blame ya
What, now that is a good idea
Do you mean psychology?
Al Gore: “There is no such thing as ethical oil.”
Except the $300 million worth of oil sold in order for al Jazeera to buy his TV Network.
Imagine that the NOA will now be trending to the positive and neutral. Just a few days ago was a bunch of HYPE about the NOA tanking, meaning arctic air was on the way for sure! WRONG again!!
It’s NAO btw and it has been slightly cooler than average temperature wise since August 1st partly b/c of a negative NAO. Also even thought it was warm around Thanksgiving we did eventual cool down as there is some lag time. This is just one of many indices to look at.
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/pna/nao_index.html
My bad – yes the NAO – North Atlantic. My point was a lot of other people including Henry M at ACCULESS weather keep saying a negative NAO will equal cold and snow automatically. WRONG!
True. Travis posted this on the other thread, but it might be worth reposting.
http://www.wxrisk.com/2012/11/ao-arctic-oscillation-about-to-turn-strongly-negative-cold-dec-on-the-way/
Very interesting post Cort.
Take a look at Mr George lessons Winter forecast, very interesting. Below normal temps. and below normal snowfall. Come on Bill give it to us, lets just have it make a guess.
Well he has at least 1/2 of his forecast correct.
How’s that even possible? If we have below normal temps it will most likely be a snowy winter for at least the snow let regions because the cold article air leads to LES which leads to normal or above normal snow so I agree with you Rocky that he has at least 1/2 right which would be the cold part!
*belt
*Arctic* stupid auto correct!
We need a lot more than cold air to get LES going. If we are frequently under the influence of a cold, dry (little moisture in the air) high-pressure system, which has inversion heights that are too low (clouds can’t build tall enough), then we won’t get the lake effect machine to kick on.
No, it can be cold and dry with very little snow fall. And with Lake effect it depends on wind direction and how much moisture and if there is a trigger. It should be noted that areas in Michigan have received a good bit of lake effect already this winter.
SlimJim
Not true, it can be cold and dryer with the wind more of a north, northeast direction, and we get very little snow.
Here is George L short winter of 2012/13 long range guess.
The Forecast
In general, I believe West Michigan will have a cold and dry winter, with temperatures that are below average (26.0°F, or -0.8°F for Grand Rapids); snowfall will also be below average (65″, or -10″ for Grand Rapids).
SlimJim
So most likely the lake shore counties will see more like 80″ then
No, lake shore wont see that much. Grand Rapids is almost like a lake shore city because we get 35 inches of lake effect each year. So thats 25 inches of non-lake effect snow for Grand Rapids.
Which means your looking toward about 70 inches for you.
That’s not necessary true because Grand Raids receives less lake effect snow than the lake shore counties do so I think the lake shore counties are in for more like 75-80″
It depend where you live and the wind direction. On average you guys see about ten-20 inches more snow than GR. So your looking at 70-75 inches. Maybe 80 depending on where you live. And if the lake effect snow isn present this year, than maybe his total is coming from storm systems?
If he’s right – at least cold weather will keep the less-than-average snow on the ground? and at least the ski areas can make snow…. although, having been on the Ski Patrol for over a decade – there IS a problem getting people to go skiing when the ground in their backyards is brown….
I think I am going to have to cut my grass again after the weekend, it is still growing. I might start getting my flower beds ready.
That is the spirit. Get out and enjoy this GREAT Fall weather. I will be golfing and doing some yard work this weekend. No SNOW or COLD air in sight.
That’s on hell of a full moon tonight. From where I am, there appears to be a hazy bubble around it. I’ve never seen that before. Not sure if it’s from thin high clouds, but I don’t see any.
If my recollection is Right it’s Called a Beaver Moon Tonight. That Said…LEAVE IT TO BEAVER… Lol….
i looked at the moon with barry in zeeland!!
Yes! We checked it out from the parking lot at work. Almost looked like a red halo around it with Jupiter just inside the halo. Pretty cool.
This goes to show that the long range winter forecasts are usually just guesses, check out this accuweather forecast from last year: http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/brutal-winter-ahead-for-the-mi/55832
Accuweather is ALWAYS wrong! They said 2 inches of snow when we got 16. Dont listen to them.
Too funny – All HYPE and 100% WRONG!! Long range forecasting is definitely a guess. I will put the RDB model up against any of the experts!
except… its in ITALY. we live in MICHIGAN. im pretty excited for this weekend of warmth. anyone see the moon tonight??
Coming with us again Sunday for disc golf? Looks like we’ll be making it 12 out of 12 months this year! Amazing. Maybe in 2013 we’ll hit 90 in January instead of having to wait till March like this year.
Nawwww….the world ends in less than 25 days.
true dat barry… global warming is in full swing!
Yeah exactly Skot so I don’t see why people are making such a big deal about this winter when we will all be dead in 25 days and I heard this time that the world is actually ending and that it is no joke this time!
Check it out Deb and Skot …. http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2012.html
How old are you deb? In case you havent heard it was all BS.
You Should Know That Fixxxer, ,After all She is Your Daughter….(he,he)
The guys doing the video didn’t sound too frantic for being so close to this tornado, and on the fourth or possibly fifth floor of a building, to boot.