Enjoy the Sunshine

December 5th, 2012 at 2:12 am by under Bill's Blog, Weather

  Another great picture here from Jack Martin.  Click the pic. to enlarge.  This is Lake Michigan Tuesday afternoon.   You can see the exiting cirrus clouds.   Shortly after midnight early Tues. AM, Muskegon reached 66 degrees.  That was not only a record high temperature for Dec. 4, but it also topped the 64 on 12/2/1982 for the warmest temperature ever recorded at the Muskegon Airport in December.   Grand Rapids set a daily record high of 65 at 12:01 AM.   With the warmest temperatures right around midnight, the 65 counted for both the 3rd and 4th.  The first 4 days of December were 16.25 degrees warmer than average.  This is record territory, but not unprecedented.  In 1998, we had a 9-day stretch from Nov. 28 to Dec. 6 when the mean temperature was 22.1 degrees warmer than average.  That winter we had 49.7″ of snow between 12/31 and 1/25 and we wound up with 76.7″ of snow – a little above average.

Overnight Model update:  The NAM (caribou) gives G.R. highs of 40/40/45 over the next 3 days with 0.13″ of rain on Friday.  The GFS  has highs of 38/41/43 with 0.20″ of rain Thurs. night into Friday and maybe a half inch of snow Friday night…maybe.  Then it gives us 1.02″ of rain late Sunday to late Monday.  The precipitation may end with an inch or two of snow if the cold air can get here before the precip. exits.  Then we get another 1/2-1″ of snow Tues. night into Weds.  From late Monday thru Tuesday night, it’s plenty cold enough for snow on the model.   The European has upper 30s/low 40s/mid 40s for the next 3 days in G.R. with 0.08″ of rain on Friday, 0.04″ on Saturday and 0.37″ of rain on Sunday, which could end with some snow Sunday night/Monday.  Like the GFS, it’s plenty cold enough for any precip. to be snow from early Monday thru at least Tues. evening and probably beyond.   If we can ever get other parameters working, the lake-effect would add to this.    The sun will be out for most of the day today…enjoy…it looks pretty cloudy from Thursday into early next week as we get into a wetter pattern.  By the middle of next week…the cold is getting closer (-38C northwest of Lake Winnipeg less than a mile off the ground).   Check out the -72 forecast for Greenland.   The European model forecasts a bit of rain for the Ohio Valley.  Finally, here’s Typhoon Bopha hitting the Philippines.

261 Responses to “Enjoy the Sunshine”

  1. Jack is a heck of a photographer. I love his work.

    1. Jack Martin - Fennville, Michigan says:

      Thank You Charles. We surely can enjoy the sunshine while it remains! Ready for the Lake Effect snows to come about !

      1. GunLakeDeb says:

        Jack – I’m another fan of yours!! Thank you for sharing the beauty that you see!

    2. Swatz_Zoo(Cedar Springs) says:

      Charles I totally agree with you, Jack is one hell of an amazing photographer I adore seeing his daily photo’s, I always love his moon shots they are so amazing especially when he can capture such detail in the craters.

  2. INDY says:

    Major Snow Storm Is Coming To West Michigan Monday Stay Tuned ..INDYY…

    1. Storm waning says:

      Major the same is coming to,Michigan. Cool ~warm, repeat. Any snow,will not stay long

    2. PAUL says:

      Indy I’m thinking the samething.
      were so over due for snow and cold in West Michigan.
      I’m thinking 4-6 inches of snow.

      1. Storm waning says:

        I don’t follow the logic how “over due” translates into 4-6 inches of snow?

    3. fixxxer says:

      there is no major snow coming.

  3. Nathan says:

    I feel extremely sick, but I’m going to school anyway…. Hope it works out! Is anyone else getting sick, because there is something going around.

    1. Swatz_Zoo(Cedar Springs) says:

      It’s been none stop or every other week here at home. Tis the season for giving, and unfortunately that also means the germs.

    2. GunLakeDeb says:

      Ohhh boyyyyy….and now you’ve shared your germs with a BUNCH of other people :-( Sometimes it’s better to stay home, get a lot of rest – and don’t share your germs!

      Hope you feel better soon!

      1. GunLakeDeb says:

        OK – I didn’t read far enough to see you stayed home, so ignore what I just wrote. Except the “hope you feel better soon”

  4. kevin. w says:

    Hope you feel better Nathan you need to stay home if its bad all you will do is spread it to the rest, but if your really to bad and not running a fever it should be ok and there is ALOT of sickness going around. The flu is going to be very bad this year along with upper respiratory, aches and pains and all the fun stuff with that crap. My wife is a retired state health official and so far a few schools closed up around the Mt. Pleasant way so things look to get ramped up with the cold coming..

    1. Nathan (Forest Hills) says:

      Thanks, I decided to stay home. I think I have the flu.
      On a better note, it looks like there is snow on the way! Not sure of it will be a lot, but I’ll take it!

      1. Kris says:

        Where do you attend school? Your teachers and classmates want you to STAY HOME if you are sick! Schools are incubators for germs!

        1. Swatz_Zoo(Cedar Springs) says:

          Yes they are! Sadly we haven’t had the chance to get the flu shots because they say if you’ve been exposed or have symptoms of being sick over hte last 2wks not to get the shot while you have symptoms, well no sooner do I stop having cold symptoms and what not that someone else is sick then I get the symptoms again a few days later. But I might just have to suck it up and do it. But I hear vit.D3 5000IU is a really good natural alternative for hte flu shot, not sure why but so I hear.

        2. fixxxer says:

          yeah if your sick stay home for a few days. my kids both just got over the flu and it’s horrid.

  5. Jim S.(Saugatuck Twp) says:

    As usual, quite a bit of uncertainty regarding the storm potential. Two days ago, the Euro. showed a very strong storm, while the GFS did not. The 00Z run of the GFS shows a pretty strong storm, while the Euro. is not nearly as strong. Looking at the latest 06Z run, it is not as deep with the low as the 00Z run, and would give us about 1-3″ on the back side of the low with a small amount of lake effect.

  6. Steelie says:

    Good Day,

    NWS/GRR does not seem too impressed for early next week at this time:

    .LONG TERM…(FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY)
    ISSUED AT 332 AM EST WED DEC 5 2012

    WE WILL MAINTAIN LOW POPS FOR SOME MIXED LIGHT RAIN AND LIGHT SNOW
    SHOWERS FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY. THIS WITH A NEARLY STATIONARY
    BOUNDARY DRAPED ACROSS THE LWR OH VALLEY REGION AND SOME LIGHT
    OVERRUNNING PCPN EXPECTED WELL TO THE NORTH OF THAT BOUNDARY INTO
    SOUTHERN LWR MI.

    THE FCST FOR LATE IN THE WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK IS COMPLICATED
    DUE TO MEDIUM RANGE GUIDANCE DISCREPANCIES AND LACK OF RUN TO RUN
    CONSISTENCY. WE WILL LEAN TOWARD THE 00Z ECMWF WHICH SUGGESTS THAT
    THE BOUNDARY WILL LIFT NORTHWARD WITH A LOW PRESSURE WAVE SUNDAY
    CAUSING PCPN TO CHANGE TO MAINLY PLAIN RAIN SHOWERS.

    THE UPPER LEVEL PATTERN WILL BECOME MORE AMPLIFIED SUNDAY INTO EARLY
    NEXT WEEK AS AN UPPER LEVEL TROUGH DEEPENS OVER THE PLAINS STATES
    AND SHIFTS EAST INTO OUR REGION TOWARD TUESDAY. THIS PATTERN COULD
    BE CONDUCIVE TO CYCLOGENESIS OVER THE ARKLATEX REGION SATURDAY
    NIGHT/SUNDAY AND THAT LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL TRACK NORTHEASTWARD.

    00Z GFS GUIDANCE SUGGESTS THIS SYSTEM COULD BRING SOME ACCUMULATING
    SNOW INTO PORTIONS OF LWR MI AS EARLY AS LATE SUNDAY AND MAINLY FOR
    MONDAY AND TUESDAY. HOWEVER IT IS NOTED THAT THE 00Z ECMWF ONLY
    SHOWS A FAIRLY WEAK LOW TRACKING NE THRU OUR REGION SUNDAY NIGHT
    (MUCH FASTER THAN THE 12Z EC) AND DOES NOT SHOW NEARLY AS MUCH
    POTENTIAL FOR ACCUMULATING SNOW EARLY NEXT WEEK.

    TEMPS WILL AVERAGE A LITTLE ABOVE NORMAL FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY
    BEFORE RETURNING TO NEAR TO EVEN POTENTIALLY A LITTLE BELOW NORMAL
    FOR EARLY NEXT WEEK.

    Steelie

    1. Jim S.(Saugatuck Twp) says:

      It is what it is…even the strongest of models would only have a moderate snowfall. However, considering it would be the first snowfall of the year, it would get people a bit worked up.

      1. GunLakeDeb says:

        It won’t stay – the ground is still too warm. But just enough to make a Snow Angel or a snowman would be fun ;-)

  7. Travis (Oxford, MI) says:

    As of December 4th, the lower 48 had only 7.6% snowcover – the lowest in 10 years and only 27% of the 10-year average at this time.

    Only 8 of the past 128 winters in Chicago have had this little snowfall so far. And all of these 8 went on to have much below average snowfall for the winter.

    Here’s the good piece about the snow drought in the midwest and Alaska too:

    http://blog.chicagoweathercenter.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/FEATUREGRAPHIC1205121.jpg

    Here’s NWS Detroit on the early system next week:

    “…with the amount of warm air advection advection ahead of the low, the southern part of the forecast area will likely see all liquid precip whereas areas to the north may be more of a mix with potential northwesterly flow in the low levels.”

    Doesn’t sound like a big storm at this time for lower Michigan, but we’ll see. Maybe an inch or two or just slush for others or rain for others.

    1. DF ( SE Mich) says:

      The big warm up predicted seems to have disappeared.

      The storm looks like a close call for us so far, I have to wait and see with that darn GFS model. It does have it turning really cold about halfway through the 6z run.

      1. Travis (Oxford, MI) says:

        Yeah, I don’t see any more temps close to 50, but the CPC has actually increased the likelihood for us for above average temps the next 2 weeks.

        Granted, average temps are dropping 3 degrees a week, so it’s all relative. Still not seeing any real arctic outbreaks at this time. Coldest we get is back to average for a few days.

        If you count December as being the meteorological start of winter, then it’s looking already like the start of winter this year will be even milder than winter last year if you can believe it.

        1. DF ( SE Mich) says:

          I am not making any conclusions after 5 days of winter =)

        2. Travis (Oxford, MI) says:

          As Bill said earlier, 4 days of extreme heat can really skew the entire month’s numbers. Especially when we’re not seeing any arctic outbreaks.

        3. DF ( SE Mich) says:

          Very true.

    2. Jim S.(Saugatuck Twp) says:

      Nice graphic. In those 8 years, the normal snowfall was about 2/3 of the typical yearly average. If it were GR, that would be roughly 55 inches or so.

  8. Sprites says:

    The 06z would seem to give us a chance at an inch or two of snow Saturday afternoon, followed by 2-5″ inches in the Monday/Tuesday timeframe. The long range seems to look cold as well with several Lake Effect chances. Maybe the pattern is changing…. atleast there is hope.

    1. Jim S.(Saugatuck Twp) says:

      Actually, it shows mostly rain until a changeover Monday and a little snow on the back side of the system.

      http://coolwx.com/cgi-bin/getptype.cgi?region=us&model=gfs&run=06&fhr=99&field=ptype

  9. kevin. w says:

    But there is a different pattern shaping up and as usual the models always have a hard time adjusting to a new pattern. They most likely take a little longer than expect to adjust to a new pattern. One thing for sure it is going to get colder/cooler and at least precipitate and we sure could use both cause I’m getting tired of both the dry and the warm since March. I would like the rest of us start having some snow and cold to get into the spirit of things. Hope everyone is feeling well my neighbors kids came home from school and she said there all sick. Been using the hand santizer quite a bit. ;)

    1. fixxxer says:

      there is no pattern change coming. you guys have been saying this for a year now.

  10. Yup (Grandville) says:

    I love the setting for this picture!

    Jack, do you have another picture with the focal point a little further out? I think it would have filled the frame better. Just a little amateur photographer’s opinion for ya ;)

  11. Nathan (Forest Hills) says:

    I see Rocky was wrong!

  12. dano (Norton Shores) says:

    Here is a glimmer of hope for us snow lovers…
    This is out of the Gaylord, Michigan office.

    Area forecast discussion
    National Weather Service Gaylord Michigan
    640 am EST Wednesday Dec 5 2012

    Long term…(thursday through tuesday)
    issued at 400 am EST Wednesday Dec 5 2012
    Saturday night into Sunday morning…a transition appears to be on
    the horizon…although models have had a hard time settling on a
    common solution with consistent timing. Stronger shortwave energy
    will be diving into The Heart of the country with surface low pressure
    developing on the aforementioned front in the lower Mississippi
    Valley. As the upper trough sharpens with time Sunday through
    Monday…this low pressure deepens (differing ideas on how deep)
    and lifts into the Great Lakes. Latest timing and track sends this
    low pressure across a favorable track for modest/heavy wet snows
    for US…The Thumb. With enough uncertainty surrounding this
    evolution…still not ready to jump on any heavy snow bandwagons.
    But the Sunday night to Monday night timeframe could prove to be
    interesting…maybe helping US realize that we should be in
    winter. Cold air pouring in behind this system doesn’t look to
    bring any significant lake snows…with the air mass looking
    pretty dry. At least temperatures will feel more like winter with
    highs maybe not escaping the 20s.

  13. Bnoppe says:

    I’ll take an advisory type event at this point

  14. Travis (Oxford, MI) says:

    Latest forecast from Johndee. A general 1-4″ of snow for next week for most of lower Michigan with greater amounts for Northern Michigan.

    1. Nathan (Forest Hills) says:

      I’m sure they will change, but there is hope!

  15. Jim S.(Saugatuck Twp) says:

    12Z GFS is in. Still shows mostly rain, with some snow on the back side for us. Looks like a 1-3″ event perhaps, with some pretty good rain before that.

    1. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

      You continue to say “us”, but in reality, the “rain” is moreso in the SOUTHERN part of the viewing area. Remember, western Michigan is a large area!

      1. DF ( SE Mich) says:

        Too early, the track will change.

        1. fixxxer says:

          ill go on a limb and say this will mostly be a rain event for us.

      1. Jim S.(Saugatuck Twp) says:

        South of I-96 mostly rain. Perhaps where you are far enough north it will be all snow.

        1. Stephen (North Muskegon says:

          Understandable, I thought you were talking about the whole area there.

  16. 141 Hour snowfall off GFS looking better, I think this will be a significant storm for parts of Lower Michigan. Plus perhaps 1 to maybe 2 or 3 inches over the weekend for GRR to LAN north ????

    http://www.midmichiganweather.com/images/gfs126hrsnow.png

    1. John (Holland) says:

      I am in love with that map. Now if that red zone could drift a bit more southwest…

  17. fixxxer says:

    i dunno about you guys but im already counting down the days till spring.

    1. GunLakeDeb says:

      LOL!!! Of course you are! I’d still like a little slice of winter, please?

      1. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

        Deb, you are like my favorite poster on here!!! haha You tell him!

        1. GunLakeDeb says:

          It’s the “old age” – I can say what I want :-)

      2. fixxxer says:

        You will get snow but im betting it wont hang around long.

  18. I love big winter storms, but I must admit I hate the cold and love hanging out by my pool on a hot summer day more. So if we get the cold and snow fine, if not I enjoy lower heating bills, a win-win deal.

    1. fixxxer says:

      as ive always said ill take a sunny / 80 degree day all year round.

      1. dano (Norton Shores) says:

        You should probably move out of Michigan. You might feel better..

        1. fixxxer says:

          Or you snow lovers could move to alaska.

        2. John (Holland) says:

          Snow is normal for Michigan. 80 degrees year-round is not. :D

        3. fixxxer says:

          Been the norm the past year john.

  19. Sprites says:

    According Ryan Maue(https://twitter.com/RyanMaue/status/276371558077984769/photo/1), it seems like most of the area should see 3-6″.. IF THE MODEL IS CORRECT. While I agree that some areas might start with rain, it seems like most would end with some snow(1-4″). As of right now it seems like Holland to the north would be in line for the higher totals.. maybe 4-6″.

  20. Jim S.(Saugatuck Twp) says:

    The Canadian model shows a similar track, but a bit deeper with the low as it passes through SE Michigan. That would bring us over to snow a bit quicker I would think as you can see by this link.

    http://collaboration.cmc.ec.gc.ca/cmc/cmdn/pcpn_type/pcpn_type_gem_reg.html

    1. Jim S.(Saugatuck Twp) says:

      BTW…when you click on the link, you have to go to 120 hrs to see the low that far out. Also, often the Canadian model is a bit deeper with low pressure on their models for some reason.

    2. Jim S.(Saugatuck Twp) says:

      Also, the Candadian model beyond 120 hrs drops quite a bit of snow over all of the lower peninsula.

      1. Nathan (Forest Hills) says:

        Perfect (I’m happy I stated home! I just passed out and threw up :(

        1. GunLakeDeb says:

          You should be getting lots of rest, young man!

        2. WhatBillwantstosaybutcant says:

          Now you and INDY have something in common. .

        3. GunLakeDeb says:

          OK, WBWTSBC: I almost spit Diet Coke all over my keyboard…ROFLMAO!!!!

        4. fixxxer says:

          If its what my kids had its short lived nathan. Hope you feel better soon.

  21. After the early week storm, it looks like another system coming out of the plains that could bring some snow by the weekend ???? now were talking way out but it is looking decent for snow and cold.

    1. Sprites says:

      Your right, Mark. Definitely appears that the models are picking up on the pattern change. The long range appears to be cold with several lake effect chances along with snow chances from clippers. Its beginning to look much more active. Winter may finally be here.

      1. Lisa (Caledonia) says:

        ::crossing fingers::

  22. kevin. w says:

    Hey people there is alot of sickness going around. I talked to my neighbor that brought both her kids home from school and there talking about closing school for Thur/Fri due to the severity of the flu here in the Mt. Pleasant area.

    1. PAUL says:

      Sorry to here that.
      Kids wash your hands and keep your
      Fingers out of your mouth…

      1. GunLakeDeb says:

        And away from your nose and eyes! (Any mucous membrane will do as far as viruses go…)

        1. GunLakeDeb says:

          Another hint: think of what people who are sick, still must do: they still have to pump gas into their cars; they still need groceries and meds; they probably use ATMs, etc. So if you have pushed a shopping cart or touched a keypad or grabbed a gas nozzle – WASH YOUR HANDS!

    2. Jordan (Twin Lake) says:

      It sure is going around my brothers entire family wife and 3 kids are all at home sick with it throwing up and fevers of 102 he is the only one not sick in the entire family lol everyone was your hands good before you eat or
      Put your fingers in your mouths!!!!

      1. Brad says:

        Did you guys catch that from Johnathan?

        1. fixxxer says:

          Lol @ brad.

    3. DF ( SE Mich) says:

      Good for the immune system.

      1. fixxxer says:

        No its not DF. you wouldnt be saying that if you were cleaning up puke for 3 days. If these parents would teach their kids handwashing skills and keep them home for a few days after being sick there wouldnt be these outbreaks.

    4. fixxxer says:

      Yeah no kidding my kids just got over it. Worst ive ever seen. These public schools are germ farms.

      1. Lisa (Caledonia) says:

        Any place with kids is going to be a germ farm. Kids don’t wash their hands and don’t put their tissues in the wastebasket, even in high school. Nasty. I’m guessing the packed stores and malls at this time of year are not the place to be while this flu is going around, either. Who knows what you’ll breathe in from people sneezing and coughing?

        1. fixxxer says:

          I agree but mine had that stomach bug.

  23. Jim S.(Saugatuck Twp) says:

    12Z European model is similar with the GFS track, but a bit quicker and not as strong.

    1. Kris says:

      Which consequently means…?

      1. Prob, a higher confidence forecast but with a bit less snow or rain south. looks good for snow for GRR to FLT north

  24. BUT, we are still a ways out and lots can change, If were still looking got Saturday then we can go into full blown hype mode LOL

  25. Jordan (Twin Lake) says:

    WOW now up to 8′ of snow possible next week I’m getting excited :)

    http://204.2.104.196/gfs/WINTER_GFS0P5_SFC_ACCUM-SNOW_120HR.gif

    1. Jordan (Twin Lake) says:

      Whoops not 8′ 8″ lol that would be a lot of snow!

    2. DF ( SE Mich) says:

      Bill usually says to cut the GFS totals in half.

      1. Jordan (Twin Lake) says:

        Still 4″ would still be the first significant accumulating snow of the season :)

      2. GunLakeDeb says:

        Well poo – then that gives me a “dusting”, probably :-(

      3. Lisa (Caledonia) says:

        Yeah, the GFS seems to overdo it quite a bit as a general rule.

    3. fixxxer says:

      Lol…jordan likes disapointment.

  26. Irish coffee says:

    Not to burst anyone’s ‘bubble’…but track error 5 days out is ~500+ miles;iow, expect changes …possibly drastic track changes! Potential exists though, so Rocky can finally put his dam golf clubs back in storage;)

    1. DF ( SE Mich) says:

      Agree. It is going to be into Wisconsin or Ohio by Sunday =)

      1. that would be par for the course, but it’s better than looking a maps the feature nothing.

        1. DF ( SE Mich) says:

          I agree, it is fun anyway. It is almost like you don’t want to be in the bulls-eye right now.

        2. OOPS AGAIN, “THAT” …..

  27. Jim S.(Saugatuck Twp) says:

    Detroit not too excited about the storm…but as of now, would be mostly rain for them anyway.

    GIVEN THE LACK OF SIGNIFICANT COLD AIR IN THE NEXT SEVERAL PERIODS
    AND THE EXPECTED PROXIMITY OF SEMI TO THE BAROCLINIC ZONE ITSELF,
    RAIN WILL BE THE FAVORED PTYPE THROUGH THE WEEKEND, ALTHOUGH AN
    OCCASIONAL PERIOD OF RA/SN MIX WILL BE POSSIBLE ACROSS THE NORTH,
    WITH SOME POTENTIAL FOR MINOR ACCUMS NOT OUT OF THE QUESTION NORTH
    OF I-69. BY CONTRAST, NEXT WEEK`S STORM WILL BE DYNAMICALLY STRONG
    AND WILL HAVE AVAILABLE AN ABUNDANCE OF COLD AIR COURTESY OF THE
    AMPLIFYING LONGWAVE PATTERN. THE PASSAGE OF THIS SYSTEM WILL BRING A
    HIGH PROBABILITY OF ACCUMULATING SNOW TO A NARROW STRIP OF THE GREAT
    LAKES REGION, POTENTIALLY BUT NOT NECESSARILY INCLUDING A PORTION OF THE
    CWA, FOLLOWED BY THE RETURN OF SEASONABLY COOL WEATHER AS A MORE
    TYPICAL DECEMBER PATTERN LOCKS IN ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES. THROUGHOUT
    THE LONG TERM PERIOD, THE FORECAST WILL BE MARKED BY INCREASED
    DIFFICULTY AND UNCERTAINTY OWING TO THE IMPORTANCE OF MESOSCALE AND
    LOW-AMPLITUDE FEATURES.

    &&

    1. GunLakeDeb says:

      “THE FORECAST WILL BE MARKED BY INCREASED
      DIFFICULTY AND UNCERTAINTY”

      Like it hasn’t been that way already?? So far, the one constant of our winters lately, seems to be their unpredictability….. the only thing I plan to rely on is my Weather Rock. “If rock is white, it’s snowing”

  28. But looking at the models runs for several days, cold air advancing vs retreating would give more credence for a storm around the upper Ohio Valley or Great Lakes, but yes lots can and might very well change but it’s likely to produce a good storm in or around the area. anyway I like the idea of somewhere in lower Michigan picking up 4 or more inches, and will start the fun and games at the perfect time for blog hype, over the weekend !!

  29. Put new oil in the snow blower, fresh gas, just need to pump up the tires as they were a little soft.

    1. GunLakeDeb says:

      Keep it up. Between your snowblower and my snowmobile – we might stall winter entirely…… :-(

      1. Funny you say that Deb, 10 or 12 years ago I got my nice new snow blower from sears, a good one and that was in December and I used it 3 times, 2 inch storm then a couple of 4 or 5 inch systems, I was bummed and I know we misssed the snow cause I went a got it.

        1. Ned S. (Now in South Holland) says:

          Mark & Deb, I just bought a new snowblower two weeks ago. There’s been no sign of snow since :-)

  30. Jordan (Twin Lake) says:

    Looks like 2 or 3 systems of snow over the course of the next 2 week the first one (Sunday- Tuesday) looks mostly snow north of Holland and rain south :)

    http://weather.rap.ucar.edu/model/displayMod.php?var=gfs_sfc_ptyp&loop=loopall&hours=hr192

    1. John (Holland) says:

      I’d like a few dozen miles of padding to the south, just to make sure we get some snow here.

  31. Jordan (Twin Lake) says:

    Here is the GRR discussion and as everybody has been saying best chance for accumulating snow along and north of 96 :)

    .LONG TERM…(SATURDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY)
    ISSUED AT 255 PM EST WED DEC 5 2012

    MAIN FOCUS WAS THE POTENTIAL FOR A WINTRY STORM SYSTEM IMPACTING THE
    REGION SUNDAY INTO MONDAY.

    A BOUNDARY STALLS OVER THE OHIO VALLEY SATURDAY/SATURDAY NIGHT AS A
    NORTHERN STREAM TROUGH BEGINS SHARPEN OVER THE ROCKIES. A STRONG
    UPPER JET ON THE BACK SIDE OF THIS TROUGH WILL CAUSE IT TO DEEPEN
    WITH CYCLOGENESIS OCCURRING OVER THE SOUTHERN PLAINS.

    THE MODELS HAVE COME INTO SOMEWHAT BETTER AGREEMENT…ALTHOUGH THE
    FINE DETAILS COULD MAKE ALL THE DIFFERENCE. A SURFACE LOW IS
    EXPECTED TO RIDE NE ALONG THE STALLED BOUNDARY AND REACH THE
    SOUTHERN GREAT LAKES SUNDAY NIGHT. THE LOW/S TRACK WILL ULTIMATELY
    DECIDE WHERE THE RAIN/SNOW LINE WILL CROSS THE GRR CWA. PRESENT
    INDICATES SUGGEST THE BEST CHANCE FOR ACCUMULATING SNOW WILL BE
    NORTH OF I-96…WITH A MESSY MIX ALONG AND SOUTH FOR SUNDAY AND
    SUNDAY NIGHT. THEN AS THE LOW PASSES EAST ALL AREAS SHOULD SEE SOME
    SNOW INTO MONDAY AS THE COOLER AIR WRAPS IN. CERTAINLY A SYSTEM
    WORTH WATCHING AND TWEAKS WILL NEED TO BE MADE TO THE FORECAST AS
    IT APPROACHES.

    1. SBPortage002 says:

      Hope you get your snow as long as next time it will be our turn down here :)

  32. Imthemom (just n holland) says:

    We could use the precip. The river/ lake to the east of the River St bridge is the lowest I’ve ever seen. You can easily see the base of the old wooden bridge. I think you could walk across on all the river bed that is showing. I’ll take my moisture in snow please.

    1. DF ( SE Mich) says:

      That is because last time it was this low was 1964 =) I agree, we need some precipitation for the lakes sake… or reduce the flow downstream somewhere.

  33. fixxxer says:

    Hey bill how about some more high 80′s in march? Can i ask santa for that? ;)

    1. DF ( SE Mich) says:

      As long as your neighborhood gets the tornado this time, I’m in. They are still rebuilding the houses that were flattened last march in my town… insurance companies move slow when only half of your house was wiped out.

      1. fixxxer says:

        What does wishing for 80′s have to do with a tornado?

    2. John (Holland) says:

      Only if you want to put all the orchard farmers into the poor house.

  34. Jordan (Twin Lake) says:

    @ Deb (Oklahoma city)

    The world will not end on the 21st :D

    http://www.weather.com/news/nasa-end-of-world-20121204

    1. Jordan (Twin Lake) says:

      and you see what this world is going to end business is doing to kids it’s getting them scared I would like to meet with this jerk that got all this going it’s stupid because as we know the world hasn’t ended nor will it and when these rumors spread they spread to kids I can’t even imagine what the parents of those kids go through because there just kids they don’t know what will or will not happen
      #stupidjerks!

      1. Ryan says:

        Lol…. JorDeb.

    2. DF ( SE Mich) says:

      The Cozumel, Mexico airport had a countdown earlier this year =)

  35. bnoppe(Albion) says:

    The Track of this storm will change I’m not comfortable even saying that there will be a storm when it’s technically still a mythical model creation

  36. INDY says:

    3 MAJOR SNOW STORMS A COMING ****** Monday Tuesday next Sunday into Monday and Xmas eve xmas day could be a good one 44444444 u snow lover’s INDY, Bill and 3334 Bloggers Get your BIG DADDY hat out blow the dust off it spin on and with some sprites get reday for a fizzer snowball fight …..From getting food in thee YARDofBRICKS with candels and chex mix INDYYY..Stay Tuned!!

    1. John (Holland) says:

      Christmas Eve/Day snowstorm would be the best gift ever!

      1. fixxxer says:

        Tell that to the travelers.

        1. Sprites says:

          Why do you care fixxxer? You more than likely will be sitting in a dark room trolling the internet anyway.

        2. John (Holland) says:

          LOL Sprites

        3. fixxxer says:

          Whatever you say skot or indy. Next time try to use another name that isnt soo obvious. And for your info we will be traveling to detroit.

      2. INDY says:

        That would be fun!! INDYY..

  37. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    Let the hype begin! I have been golfing almost every day for about the past week! Let me remind you that we are still in a snow pattern!

    1. fixxxer says:

      No one cares about your golfing and no one cares about hyped snow events. ;)

      1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

        Wow fixxxer you sound very pleasant today. Go back under your rock!

        1. fixxxer says:

          Im in a good mood rj.

        2. Rocky (Rockford) says:

          Ok fixxxer what ever you say!

    2. John (Holland) says:

      You’re the only person I’m aware of who golfs more the Barack Obama.

      1. John (Holland) says:

        I’m gonna go out and play bocce ball, and maybe a little croquet.

      2. Rocky (Rockford) says:

        :)

      3. fixxxer says:

        John he probably plays golf on his xbox.

        1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

          No fixxxer, I actually go outside and play golf and enjoy all of this GREAT Fall weather that we have been having!

        2. fixxxer says:

          What golf course is open in december?

        3. John (Holland) says:

          LOL Nice

        4. Rocky (Rockford) says:

          North Kent baby. ROCK n ROLL!

  38. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    I will believe this storm when I actually see it and as a few others have mentioned already this SNOWSTROM is 4 or 5 days out. Calm down people as the model HYPE is already out of control! I will at least admit that there are now some signs that we could be turning the corner into a winter like pattern? We shall see. I will not even be checking the RDB model till Sunday!!

  39. INDY says:

    ********WINTER STORM WATCH COMING SUNDAY*********Now is your chance to get your winter storm list out check it right and driink some sprites tonight with me …..INDYY…..

    1. Sprites says:

      Already drinking the sprites!

    2. Rocky (Rockford) says:

      Indy you have been waiting for this? Let the HYPE begin!

      1. INDY says:

        It’s time!!! INDYY..

    3. Jordan (Twin Lake) says:

      I think a winter weather advisory or storm watch will be issued on either Friday or Saturday would e my guess not Sunday because that is when the event is expected to start

  40. Barry in Zeeland says:

    So say we get 1 or two inches of snow…..since when is that a “storm”? Have expectations of a “storm” been lowered that far? That’s like having a 13 mph wind gust during a “storm” and 0.13 inches of rain.

    1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

      People are so snow starved they will be thrilled with 2 inches of SNOW!

    2. Jordan (Twin Lake) says:

      Take your negativity away from the blog it’s been a long time since there has been hype on here and listen to watch the NWS has said and look at models does it look like just 1-2″ NOPE

      1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

        Calm down Jordan. I just deal with the facts baby!!

      2. Barry in Zeeland says:

        Negativity and long time since there was hype? You people have totaly ignored the glorious fall weather we have had for the past 3 months and constantly hype the cold weather that’s always a week or two away but never comes. Sounds like a lot of negativity and hype right there to me.

      3. Ryan says:

        You tell ‘em JorDeb.

    3. John (Holland) says:

      One inch is better than none. But I agree, a true storm would be better. Or a blizzard.

  41. INDY says:

    Thee cold air will blow in 6-10 inches of snow Sunday night 4 west Michigan with some Tornados in the Ohio vally the wind will be a blowing 35-45 mph BIG DADDY HAT of a storm coming for the great lakes states hug your kids turn the heat up and stay with Bills Blogg we will rock it roll it and paaa troll it …..INDYY…

  42. Jordan (Twin Lake) says:

    Accuweather has 2″ of snow for me and 9″ of snow only 3 miles away from me that is why I do not rely on them at all!

  43. kevin. w says:

    Remember when they say: oh this storm will pass well south of area up the appalachians to the east coast. Oooops the models made a last minute turn to the north and now we have a winter storm warning with up to a foot. Anything can happen, anything can change and thats the joy of watching the weather unfold…..and so it begins.:)

  44. Deb (Oklahoma City) says:

    Jordan don’t you remember though when ever they say a storm will take a northerly track it ends up going way south of Michigan I am almost 99% sure that is what will happen this time you will not get snow so don’t get hyped up at all that goes with all you snow lovers!

    1. Lisa (Caledonia) says:

      I think you posted on the wrong blog again. Here’s a link if you need it to find your way back: http://blog.newsok.com/weather/

  45. Nathan (Forest Hills) says:

    Uhhh, I can’t do anything but throw up and sleep…. I actually want to go to school!

  46. kevin. w says:

    Nathan you should start to feel better by tommorow its about a 24-36 hour bug. Just make sure you at least chew some ice and drink a little water. Hope you feel better, man. :)

  47. KevinS (Saugatuck) says:

    It’s Thursday evening and were talkin Sunday into Monday time frame?? Let’s all settle down…

    1. KevinS (Saugatuck) says:

      *Wednesday lol

    2. Rocky (Rockford) says:

      Right on Kevin!

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