Thursday

December 27th, 2012 at 2:11 am by under Bill's Blog, Weather

   This is snow on the ground in Central Arkansas (pic. from KARK) where the National Guard has been called out to help with the storm clean-up.  Up to a foot of snow fell in Arkansas, with 9″ in Little Rock (their 3rd biggest December snowfall).  Albion IL had 18.3″, with 11″ in Evansville and nearly 8″ in Indianapolis.  Watch out for slick spots on the sidewalks, parking lots, side streets and rural roads especially today.  There are no significant storm systems coming our way.  The models print out some light snow from Friday PM into Saturday night…an inch, maybe two at the most.  Most days next week we’ll have a chance of a little light snow or flurries.  Grand Rapids officially received 3.1″ of snow yesterday, more than doubling our season snowfall to 5.8″.  That’s more than the 3.6″ we had for a season total last year on 12/27, but 19″ below average.   We’ve had 21% of possible sunshine for December through the 26th.    There is more snow in the forecast.  An inch or two is likely from Friday into Saturday and lake-effect snow showers are likely early next week with additional accumulations.  With the coldest air of the season a possibility by the middle of next week and Lake Michigan still around 40F, the potential is there for some areas to get more significant lake-effect snow as the Arctic air arrives.  The morning GRR NWS discussion is a good one.  Speaking of the NWS, SPC did a good job with the outlooks (risk area out on Day 4) and watches with the Christmas Day severe weather down South.

32 Responses to “Thursday”

  1. whatBillwantstosaybutcant says:

    This winter is gay. Jack, spin something.

    1. Jack says:

      Hmmmmm.wbwtsbc……SPIN: The Blizzard – Jim Reeves – Tall Tales Short Tempers – YouTube
      ► 3:24► 3:24
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2fyFumisiU
      Mar 19, 2008 – Uploaded by katydidscorner
      The Blizzard. Sad song by Jim Reeves from Tall Tales and Short Tempers Album.

    2. Jack says:

      Followed. By….Spin : The Rolling Stones – Shattered (from “Some Girls, Live in Texas ’78 …
      ► 4:45► 4:45
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYvy3kBYN4Q
      Oct 31, 2011 – Uploaded by eaglerocktv
      http://www.eagle-rock.com/artist/532F15/Rolling+Stones Continuing their partnership with the …

  2. Other than a couple of cold fronts this looks to be a very uneventful pattern with no end in site

  3. Only thing other than weak clippers around the 5th then the 7th is a storm at 360hrs and that would go “drum roll” yep west of us and bring us rain LOL

  4. The last time the National Guard was called out here for a snow event was back in the late 70s – I remember having to use our snow mobiles to get into town to get supplies – we haven’t had an event like that in over 30 years (19″ of snow with blizzard conditions) – road graters with V plows were used to open up the roads. When I lived in Maine in the mountains we could get a nor’easter with 60 inches of snow over night and the road crews would get the big snowblowers on their trucks and have everything cleaned up the same day – we used to go up to Montreal and Quebec City in the winter and see these monsters blowing snow – you didn’t want to get in front of one of them – they could eat up a car and spit it out. I have been waiting all Long time for a winter Like we had in the good old days…

    1. excuse my grammar – not enough coffee in me yet – maybe I need some Sprites :)

  5. Slimjim says:

    Cloudy and a cool 35 here in south GA. We will soon be on our way to Capr Coral fl.
    Slimjim

  6. Monday through Wednesday look good for snow (along the western counties at least) – but the long term CPC is tending towards above normal temps with above normal precip – please not rain or ice). http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/predictions/610day/

  7. Travis (Oxford, MI) says:

    7″ at my condo in Lake Orion.

    Still think it’s funny that after all the big hyped storms that brought nothing to GR the past few months, GR’s biggest snowfall came from a storm that was only supposed to be flurries for GR.

    Mother nature wins again.

    1. DF (SE Mich) says:

      We could have easily used a winter storm warning also instead of an advisory… tough one to forecast. We ended up with more than 6 inches as well. There were Blizzard Warnings up in Sandusky Ohio where it barely even snowed due to the dry slot.

  8. michael g (SE GR) says:

    Milwaukee seems a little more bullish about the system for Friday.

    …ACCUMULATING SNOW IN SOUTHERN WISCONSIN FRIDAY…

    LIGHT SNOW ASSOCIATED WITH A SLOW-MOVING WEATHER SYSTEM WILL
    SPREAD INTO SOUTH CENTRAL WISCONSIN EARLY FRIDAY MORNING AND INTO
    SOUTHEAST WISCONSIN BY LATE FRIDAY MORNING. SNOW WILL CONTINUE TO
    FALL THROUGH THE DAY AND DIMINISH FRIDAY NIGHT. THE SNOW WILL
    GENERALLY REMAIN LIGHT…WITH BRIEF PERIODS OF HEAVIER SNOW.

    SNOWFALL ACCUMULATIONS WILL BE IN THE 2 TO 4 INCH RANGE…WITH
    POSSIBLY HIGHER AMOUNTS FROM WISCONSIN DELLS TO MADISON TO
    MILWAUKEE. SNOW WILL BEGIN IN MADISON DURING THE MORNING
    COMMUTE… AND WILL BE ONGOING DURING THE AFTERNOON COMMUTE IN
    BOTH MADISON AND MILWAUKEE. IN ADDITION…LOCALIZED LAKE ENHANCED
    SNOWFALL WILL BE POSSIBLE IN MILWAUKEE AND PORT WASHINGTON AREAS.

    THE ACCUMULATING SNOW WILL LIKELY CAUSE SOME TRAVEL HEADACHES ON
    FRIDAY. BE SURE TO MONITOR THE LATEST WEATHER CONDITIONS AND
    FORECASTS BEFORE TRAVELING.

  9. Deb (Oklahoma City) says:

    The gfs gives you lakeshore countiers a first significant lake effect snow event next Wednesday see Matt it’s possible that you may see you’re first real snow heading into the new year ;)

  10. GunLakeDeb says:

    Re: the SPC predictions for Christmas Day being accurate:

    I’m sure most of you have seen the interview with the lady who “almost got sucked up in the tornado” while driving her car in Mobile, AL? But a tree fell on it and held it down. Jim Cantore asked her “Didn’t you check the weather??” and she replied “Nope. All I was thinking about was Christmas”

    Granted, we’re a bunch of weather geeks and have our attention on the weather to the point of obsession – but how could someone be oblivious to the dire forecasts for their area for DAYS???? Surely it was dark and nasty-looking out?! Surely there were sirens?? I’m just blown away that someone could happily drive into a tornado…..

    1. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

      It truly is amazing how clueless people are about the weather/what is going on in the world! TWC had a show about the Blizzard that hit us in February 2011. They made the show about everyone that got stuck on Michigan Ave in Chicago. Some of the people that were stranded only had a light jacket, no hat, no gloves, no blankets, and didn’t even know they were suppose to get a blizzard!

      On a side note, how much snow did your area receive yesterday? It looked like the cutoff from heavy snow was near the Allegan/Barry county line.

      1. GunLakeDeb says:

        A couple of inches?? I’m never a good one for an accurate snowfall, unless the wind is calm. I either get the wind off the lake; or here at work, we’re on a hill….. I can still see the tops of grass blades poking up from the mowed lawn here at work (just west of the Allegan Co Park on Gun Lake)

  11. INDY says:

    winter is here we have 3-6 inches coming Friday Night with a snow adv. comimg for West Michigan and the Tuesday a BIG lk efectt event coming 4-8+ with a lk effect warning out for west Michigan and humpday{INDY DAY} all the sprites in town for now that winter is here to stay and fizzzer please goooooo away!! STAY TUNED INDYY…..

    1. Bryan says:

      Indy-

      What is your best guess on the Lake Effect snow machine starting up next week. Monday night, Tuesday morning, Tuesday evening or Wed morning. And when is it supposed to let up. Do you expect a NW flow or a due North to South flow.

      I am not holding you to it, but my brother and his family were going to try make the drive from metro Chicago to Lansing, MI for a quick 3 day visit coming on the 2nd before heading back on the 4th or the 5th as he is a teacher in metro Chicago.

      His wife is a little gun shy on winter travel coming around the bend on 94 as they had a few encounters with the Lake Effect, ie. pure white out driving events. She said they would never chance it again. 20 years later, it still holds true.

      What do you think.

  12. Skot says:

    Flurries yesterday’s forecast said. Yup….another fail. I can understand the difficulties when it comes over the lake but from the SSE??

  13. GunLakeDeb says:

    Early this morning – around 2 AM, the sky must have cleared because the moon shining on the snow made it as bright outside as it was this AM at 7:30 AM!

  14. bill says:

    Bill
    What I don’t understand about forcasting on Thursday is that by 11 am it was clear to me watching the radar that the storm was pushing the snow northward, making Grand Rapids a target. Yet there were no advisories in Kent County and the forcast continued to be an inch or less. You said the reason for the advisories east and south of us was because of slippery roads. Well you know what happened. I wish on your coverage of the weather at 6 and 11, that you would admit that the forcast was wrong and why. Bill

    1. Skot says:

      I concur. All channels were wrong. I just saw 13′s arrow fly by.

      1. bill says:

        Thats because they all forcast what the NWS perdicts. The days of Craig James are gone. He always gave HIS forcast. Quite often it differed from the NWS.

    2. Bill Steffen says:

      bill – The TV meteorologists don’t issue watches/warnings/advisories. They are all issued by the National Weather Service. All the TV meteorologists report the advisories that the NWS issues. On the whole, they do a good job. There are certain criteria for each warning/advisory and often some discretion is left to the forecaster on duty. It would be very chaotic and confusing to the public if every station issued different advisories and warnings.

      There was an extremely sharp back edge to the snowfall…with 3″ in downtown G.R. and not a flake in Muskegon…snowfall in Kent County ranged from 1-4″ with the least in the northwest part of the county.

      1. bill says:

        TV 13 has a target. As you know they report what happend to what was forcasted. I realize that you can’t issue advisories or warnings. My point is if you think, with all your experience, that we will get more or less snow than predicted by the NWS, just say it. Your mentor did this quite often. It makes things more interesting. If you always agree with them I can get the same weather report online at the NWS website.

        1. Bill Steffen says:

          I go to 18 full counties and 5 partial counties. I have 2 to 3 minutes in the main weather segments. Any given forecast may work out for some or most areas and not for other areas. It didn’t snow in Muskegon and the roads stayed dry there. That was a good forecast. The forecast is more than just a general number for multiple counties or all 18 counties, it’s the words we use as we play the graphics. We mentioned the sharp back edge to the storm and really emphasized the main impact of slick roads.

  15. Jeff(Northern Ionia County / Muir) says:

    Ionia got enough snow to cover the ground finally!! Im hoping to get a few more inches tomorrow but we will see what comes of it.

  16. Barry in Zeeland says:

    Almost an inch here in Zeeland! That brings our season total to almost 2 full inches! Since on average almost half our snow falls by the end of December, we must be heading for a grand winter total of 4 inches.

  17. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

    Hopefully after tomorrow the Muskegon/Spring Lake/Grand Haven area will join the rest of the state in having snow cover…

  18. John (Holland) says:

    John Dee’s charts have some areas (particularly mine) getting 3 to 9 inches over the next 10 days. Let’s make it 9.

  19. Nathan says:

    Snow on the ground down here in Dallas! I was checking models and it looks like a west wind for the lE snow… Have fun ppl in gr next week!! I hope you get a lot of snow

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