Friday PM

January 10th, 2013 at 11:33 am by under Bill's Blog, Weather

Local  2 PM Friday.  Just a few sprinkles/drizzle left.  In the last hour…Grand Rapids is down 1 deg. to 52, Holland is down 3 deg. in the last 2 hours.  S. Haven is 50 and down 4 in the last 2 hours (wind is turning more off Lake Michigan).  It’s 54 in Kalamazoo, down 1 deg. in the last hour. It’s very foggy in Big Rapids.  Big Rapids is up 5 deg. in the last 2 hours to 43.  Vicksburg, Ionia and Alma have had over an inch of rain.  Other rainfall totals:  0.98″ Muskegon, 0.85″ Kalamazoo, 0.74″ Grand Rapids, 0.73″ Holland, 0.72″ Battle Creek.  For current Michigan weather observations and wind speeds, click here. You can check out the S. Haven Lighthouse, the Spyglass Condos Weather Station by the Holland Channel, the Muskegon beach (when the wind is in knots – kts. – multiply by 1.15 to get mph), and the beach at Michigan City, Indiana. Snow cover as of 1/11 AM:  1″ Big Rapids, 2″ Baldwin and Houghton Lake, 4″ Cadillac and Lake City, 6″ Gaylord, 7″ Newberry, 8″ S. Ste. Marie and Grand Marais, 12″ Marquette. Here’s NAM model snowfall thru 84 hours, the GFS snowfall thru 120 hours and the HPC snowfall predictions. Here’s WOOD-TV Interactive Radar, looping radar. Check out the current conditions, regional radar, GRR radar, northern Indiana radar, Chicago radar and Milwaukee radar. Here’s the College of DuPage Radar Map, Storm total rainfall, the local warning/advisory map and the National warning/watch/advisory map. You can checkout the latest Grand Rapids NWS discussion, the Northern Indiana NWS discussion (includes the Michigan Counties that border Indiana), the discussion for Northern Lower Michigan, and Eastern Lower Michigan. Here’s the Spyglass Condos Weather Station the S. Haven GLERL station, the Muskegon GLERL station, the Grand Haven Steelheaders webcam and weather station, and the weather station at Holland State Park. Check out the WOOD lightning tracker and U.S. lightning Marantha Webcam at Lake Michigan and links to webcams. Here’s the infrared satellite loop (night) and the visible satellite loop (daytime). Here’s Lake Michigan water temperatures. Here’s storm total rainfall for W. Michigan and E. Michigan. Here’s data from the mid-lake buoy (not available in winter) and the Wind Map. And…here’s the 84-hour NAM snowfall amount forecast for W. Michigan and the 120-hour GFS snowfall amount forecast. Here’s local storm reports from Iowa, Western Wisconsin, Eastern Wisconsin, and northern Michigan. Check out these webcams and the Snowman Cam from Gaylord. Here’s a few pictures of the last snowstorm.

ALSO:  The NAM model prints out a narrow band of a couple-3″ of snow Sunday from Oceana Co. to Rogers City.

122 Responses to “Friday PM”

  1. fixxxer says:

    only 68 days until spring!

    1. Me :-) says:

      Still a very long time :-(

      1. fixxxer says:

        Yup i agree.

  2. kevin. w says:

    Very intense stratospheric warming event going on that’s usually a sign of a major arctic outbreak coming for someone/somewhere in the U.S. I see some models have the AO going to -6 and the NAO going to -4 so maybe toward the northeast U.S. It also looks like the polar vortex will set up shop somewhere around Hudson Bay or just south-southeast of there. Its been on the other side of the globe for the past two years so maybe a pattern change, maybe the same ole’ crap.

    1. INDY says:

      Yeaa and in 3 days we will be talking about how cold it is outside!! Burrr Feburary looks to be below normal we all new mother nature is a little behind herself and in the great lakes states we need it snow rain severe drought going strong in the mid west!! Stay tune BILLS BLOGGERS!!!

      1. Rumrunner says:

        Holy crap. I agree with Indy? Sweet. I could care less for the snow. I just need the cold for the ice to hang around. Hit a limit of gills last weekend on 4 inches of ice so clear you could watch em bite. A few more trips like that would be a little boost to the dinners in the freezer.

  3. Ullr says:

    I promise you snow on the 16th day of this month.


    1. fixxxer says:

      and i promise you will probably be wrong.

      1. Ullr says:

        Your doubt of Ullr’s gift of snow angers me, mortal. A dry slot for you!

        1. Yup (Grandville) says:


        2. Jack says:

          Ullr …. Lol.. How is this Years Festival Going ? Fixxer don’t Like Winter, he is always looking for a Dry Slot…Slam em with Ahhhh BLIZZARD.. Lol… ;-)

  4. Jim S.(Saugatuck Twp) says:

    Accuweather talking about the coldest weather in years? I though they fired Joe Bastardi.

    1. INDY says:

      Jim we all new it was a matter of warm time we would have the cold find I can’t wait my kids even my self are ready to get the sleds out!! I am seeing low temps —–neg. loook out get ready now check your filter on your furnace!!! BURRRR INDYY….

    2. Rocky (Rockford) says:

      I’ll believe when I actually see it! We will probably get a little cold air with a few snow flurries! Big deal!

    3. Bill Steffen says:

      FYI – Bastardi did not get fired…he resigned to go start WeatherBell with Joe D’Aleo.

      1. bobcat says:


  5. Dan says:

    Here comes Winter, perhaps! You’ve got to know that we couldn’t go the entire season like this. I wonder if this will be our Winter. How long will the colder temps last? I hear there will be many chances later in the week for LES. The cold air will be entrenched then. I’m coming down off the ledge.

    1. Ullr says:

      Have faith, Dan the mortal. Ullr keeps his promises and will bestow upon you 15.24 centimeters of snow beginning on the 16th day of the month.

  6. kevin. w says:

    The new long range updates all have come in now. The euro has it cold as hell here in Feb. the GFDL is pretty cold, the NCAR has it very warm, the JMA is cold, the Canadian is brutal, the cfs is neutral, and the funny thing is all of its ensembles are all neutral. So who knows what the hell to expect for the next month. I did take a look at what some of the models that do forecast summer are…you better make sure your A/C is working real good if you believe ‘em. I guess enjoy winter for what its worth, if its worth much around here.

    1. fixxxer says:

      Im ready for another hot summer.

      1. Deb (Oklahoma City) says:

        I have a question for you fix why do you like hot summers so much just wondering?

        1. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

          He doesn’t like anything. He can just tolerate the hot weather more.

        2. Jack says:

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        3. fixxxer says:

          Becuae i hate cold weather thats why.

        4. fixxxer says:

          Yeah becuase you know me in “real” life matt.

      2. Jack says:

        Tis.. Summer… Somewhere… I think.. ;-)

    2. GunLakeDeb says:

      Ya know – most of us have snow boots and sandals, parkas and bathing suits, baseball caps and earmuffs. We’ll just deal with whatever Mother Nature throws at us. If I can’t go snowmobiling, maybe I’ll go golfing with Rocky ;-) Heck – maybe we could have a Bill’s Blog Golf Scramble for Valentine’s Day…..

      1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

        Now you are talking!!

      2. Scott (west olive) says:

        Hey I could borrow some clubs for that.

    1. Sprites(Holland) says:

      That would be nice. Also looks like a decent chance for lake effect late next week followed by a clipper after that. We’ll see if the models are onto some potentially wintery weather.

  7. fixxxer says:

    Hey bill email deb and try to convince jordan to come back. ;)

  8. arcturus says:

    Ryan Maue is saying possibly 120 in Sydney this weekend. Berlin, Moscow, and Beijing have had, til recently, extended above avg temps. Flowers will be blooming here shortly. The new normal has become normal.

    1. Bill Steffen says:

      Boy, you’re a broken record, Arc. with this “new normal”. It’s warm here and in Australia…but you have to think GLOBALLY. Here’s the globe: January has actually been cooler than average over more than 50% of the contiguous U.S. It’s been very cold across much of Asia. The global temperature is very close to average.

    2. Mike M. says:

      Ryan Maue would put his fist right through your chest if he ever met you, big Daddy.

      1. arcturus says:

        Haven’t met this dude Big Daddy but would like to. Sorry to break your bubble.

      2. Brad says:

        So he’s an emotional, violent type?

        1. Mike M. says:

          big Daddy? Yeah, but he swings like a girl.

    3. Yup (Grandville) says:

      Ridiculous… 2 years of warm winters and it’s the new normal? Are you on Gore’s payroll?

  9. Swatz_Zoo(Cedar Springs) says:

    Can we all just PLEASE lay off the Jorden/Deb thing, it’s old and who cares any more, we all have skeletons in the closet.

    1. Deb (Oklahoma City) says:

      It’s only fixxxer now and I’m just going to ignore him and thank you I want to drop it too! So what if we have the same writing g there’s lots of people in this world with the same writting formats!

    2. fixxxer says:

      No swatz we dont.

  10. Jack says:

    HEY BILL, Can You Get Me Tickets ??? For The Bob Seger Concert coming To The van Andel….I’m Broke…Please HELP !!! ;-)

  11. bnoppe(Albion) says:

    I want Thunder Heck if I’m not getting SNOW then Bring on the Thunder

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  13. Zach Lassiter says:

    Mesodiscussion issued for Michigan calling for freezing rain

    1. fixxxer says:

      Thanks for the spam.

      1. Yup (Grandville) says:

        Why do you keep saying that Fixx? I haven’t seen any spam from the sites this guy puts up? What are you getting from it?

  14. Jeff (Fremont) says:

    Is it ever going to snow here?

    1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

      Not much in the year of NO WINTER WEATHER! We are still stuck in a NO SNOW PATTERN with no change in sight!

      1. fixxxer says:

        Broken record.

  15. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    I will be golfing on Saturday and then watching to see if the so called “COLD and SNOW is coming” routine goes up in smoke again. They have cried wolf once to often for me to believe a word they say! All mid and long range models are WORTHLESS!

    1. Jack says:

      1 Model ,,, Is Looking . Good Still ..The Imfamous…JEM… ;-)

      1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

        We shall see because we have the famous 2-4-13 blizzard showing up on the long range JEM MODEL!!

        1. fixxxer says:

          Lmao for even looking that far out.

        2. Skot says:

          FIssster…wasnt it you who recently stated this summer was going to be hot? Not that I care WHAT you say, but hypocritical as always.

        3. Brad (Lawrence) says:

          You know what Red Forman would call Fisster right?

        4. Skot says:

          LOL…Good ole’ Red.

    2. dano (Norton Shores) says:

      I would hate to think what it would be like to golf with you.
      Too much hostility. Do you throw your clubs?

      1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

        I find golf very relaxing and fun!

  16. Winter weather in on the way, first some much needed moisture 0.75 to 1.25 for most areas with a touch of snow to end. Then colder with a few weak system before perhaps some more bigger systems at least get us in the game.

    1. arcturus says:

      When ‘winter is coming’ is said frequently it means we’ve not had a winter. Could definitely use the moisture.

      1. GunLakeDeb says:

        LOL! Good point about not having winter – we DO all sound like kids waiting for Santa – and just like the Jolly Elf – winter has gone back to the North Pole, too.

  17. Barry in Zeeland says:

    Perfect day out today! Just plain awesome outside with the sun and warm temps, and now a gentle January rain coming down to ensure that any snow left anywhere will melt quickly away. Even better yet is we are now up to almost mid-January, each day passing by is one less day of possible snow we have left! If we continue to have winters like these, the peoples who go to Arizona for the winter will start migrating to Michigan for their winters!

    1. hsoJ in Zeeland says:

      Great day for frisbee golf!

  18. Skot says:

    Polar Vortex coming soon!!!!

    1. Barry in Zeeland says:

      Yup! Just like every week since about mid October!

      1. Skot says:

        Check google news fella’s

  19. Mr. Negative says:


  20. Nathan (Forest Hills) says:

    Enjoy the “heat” before cold and snow takes over again! Nce relaxing rain falling right now :)

  21. INDY says:

    Bill time to get out thee winter gloves and snow pants my friend winter is coming back to MICHIGAN!!! STAY CUE!!! INDYY…..

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  22. Brad (Lawrence) says:

    So I get to wake up to NO POWER…Ugh! Thank you generator :P

  23. Cindy says:

    Mid East snow started with large amounts of rain

  24. Yup (Grandville) says:

    Good precip last night, we needed that. Now only if the central part of the country could get some of those reds out of the drought map.

  25. Dan says:

    Rain is moving out. It did rain steady through the night! Could you imagine if we received this rain in colder temps? We would’ve have quite a bit of snow!!
    Looks like Winter may be poised to come here early next week! It looks to get colder after the initial cold front brings our temps closer to average. Until then, ENJOY the Spring!!

  26. michael g (SE GR) says:

    It’s becoming increasingly clear that central and southern Canada is going to be filling up with brutally cold air, question is, can we get it to come just a bit farther south?

  27. Rainfall 8:00am
    Breckenridge 0.84
    Middleton 0.80
    Newaygo 0.91
    Lansing 0.57 “New Record” Old Record 0.54 In 1911

  28. Oops I stand corrected Lansing storm total is 0.57 “daily” amount is 0.27 sorry about that….

  29. Travis (Oxford, MI) says:

    Snow’s just about all gone here. 52 today, chance at 60 in parts of SE Mich tomorrow!

    Looks like nothing more than glancing blows of below average temps on the horizon after that.

    Australia’s Bureau of Meterology came out yesterday and said that the current heat wave in terms of duration, intensity, and extent is arguably the most significant in the history of Australia. Four of Australia’s top 10 hottest days ever recorded have been made just this month alone.

    1. michael g (SE GR) says:

      ……and worldwide temps continue to hover near normal.

      1. Travis (Oxford, MI) says:

        Global temps were above the average baseline in 2012, 2011, and 2010. Three years in a row.

        Before that, we had 7 years in a row with global temps above average. If my memory serves me, I believe only 2008 was cooler than average.

        A warm decade for sure.

        1. michael g (SE GR) says:

          Yep, it was, as were the 00′s and 90′s. The 60′s, 70′s and 80′s were cold. I’m willing to bet the 10′s, 20′s, and 30′s will be cold again. Almost seems like it’s a ~30 year ocean cycle driving earth’s temps, NOT CO2.

        2. Brad says:

          Michael, you should publish on that.

      2. Brad says:

        Normal relative to the 1981-2010 warmed average?

        1. Bill Steffen says:

          It had to warm…the 60s and 70s were the 2 coldest decades of the last century.

    2. Bill Steffen says:

      Australia update 1/15: After one really hot day on 1/4, Hobart hasn’t reached 80 since. They were only in the mid 60s on the 13th and 14th. Sidney had two days of blistering heat with 109 and 97 on the 8th and 9th – but it’s been cooler than average of late with highs of just 72 on the 13th and 14th with showers. Ayers Rock, usually a very hot place in mid summer, had highs only in the mid 80s on the 12th-14th. Five of the last six days have been cooler than average in Melbourne. Canberra had a very cool high of 72 on the 14th and Adelaide, with an average high of 85, has only been in the low-mid 70s the last three days.

  30. Jim S.(Saugatuck Twp) says:

    0.85″ rain here overnight.

  31. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

    Temps have steadily been going up here its now up to 46°. While it looks to turn colder late next week there also does not (as of now) look like we will receive all that much snow so our low snow fall amounts should continue.

    1. michael g (SE GR) says:

      My philosophy has always been that if we get the arctic air here, it will find a way to snow.

  32. DerekS says:

    What arctic air, channel 8 is forcasting highs in the upper 20′s so far for the end of next week. Last time I checked thats average for this time of year. I guess this is the new normal, when we get into the 20′s its a massive cold out break.

  33. Jim S (North of Parchment) says:

    Took my rain gauge out of cold storage for this event and recorded 0.9″ last night. Very glad it wasn’t snow.

  34. Michael (Berrien county) says:

    Latest 12Z GFS looks rather interesting for Sunday. If only it would all be snow!!

    1. Michael (Berrien county) says:

      Actually here is the link I was referring to.

      1. michael g (SE GR) says:

        That could be snow, sleet, or freezing rain with cold air flowing in at low levels.

  35. Travis (Oxford, MI) says:

    Already 54 in Holland before 11:30am. 21 degrees above the average high.

  36. fixxxer says:

    L@L at everyone that thinks were gonna have any real arctic air or big snows. you people are soo desperate for snow it’s almost pathetic.

    1. michael g (SE GR) says:

      LOL at any non developmentally delayed adult who uses LOL in anything other than a mocking manner.

      1. fixxxer says:

        keep trying to insult mike. one day you will get it right!

    2. Tom (Wyoming) says:

      I find it pathetic that you post on here for the sole purpose of pissing people off. If you’re so against cold weather and snow there are other places you can live.

      1. fixxxer says:

        im not here to tick anyone off.

        1. michael g (SE GR) says:

          You’re homework for the day fix (teacher doesn’t want to hear any excuses either)

          1) Look up definition of “pathetic”. This is what you called people who think it is going to get cold and snow.

          2) Look up definition of “ticking people off”. That is what you said you don’t do one minute later.

          3) Write a 200 word essay reconciling those two conflicting statements.

          NO CHEATING!!

        2. Dan says:

          I’d like to refer you to exhibit A, Fixxxer. The tirade about flu shots. Also, what about people who like cold and snow?
          You don’t even like the heat even though you clamor about wanting it for the summer.
          Can you count to 200 so that you can complete your homework assignment accurately?

        3. fixxxer says:

          apparently you two haven’t learned to just stop replying to my posts.

        4. GunLakeDeb says:

          I’m gonna stick up for Fixxxer because he’s right – we who love snow ARE desperate for it. Pathetic?? Perhaps….LOL!!

          And *IF* we ever get a decent snowfall – we’ll all be telling him to stop grumping about it because you KNOW he will ;-)

  37. kevin. w says:

    Well by looking at the new 12z GFS and the Euro it doesn’t appear that any big snows are on the horizon, but maybe some clippers that will produce a couple 1-3/2-4 inch snows. I see two potential little storms coming but by looking at all the models I really can’t see much snow out of them. The only model that gives a big lake effect event is the Euro model out about 8 days, but the way things have been going I sure wouldn’t put apples in one basket. Most models show it getting colder but the real question is just how much colder are we comparing it to. I have heard from a couple other forecasters saying that the great lakes looks to remain snowstormless for quite awhile. Got those golf clubs polished up Rocky…:)

    1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

      What is interesting to me is the fact the for the last few days CPC has been consistently showing us in the 6 to 14 day range to have below average temperatures and above average precip, which would be all SNOW! The models show very little snow while the CPC shows above average SNOW. Something does not add up here! I will be golfing this Saturday and the way this year of NO WINTER WEATHER is going I may be golfing all winter long. We are still entrenched in a NO SNOW PATTERN!!!

  38. michael g (SE GR) says:

    288 hour GFS. Only reason our 850 mb temps are above -20*C is the west wind coming off of the warm lake. Nice!

    1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

      I agree that does look nice. Too bad it WON’T happen! The GFS model has a ZERO percent accuracy rate at the 288 hour range for this entire winter season. This the same air the GFS said would be here by this coming Tuesday! What a joke. All long range models are 100% WORTHLESS!

      1. fixxxer says:

        so are your posts.

        1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

          Crawl back under your rock. We will all be better off!

    2. Ryan (Rockford) says:

      Good ole’ Bastardi……does he ever get tired of posting the same thing over and over, only to have the outcome result in a miserable failure? I appreciate Bill prefacing the GFS with the fact that it typically has a cold bias in long-term forecasts. Bastardi seems to have convinced himself that those models are accurate. I would love it if they were, but they’ve (mostly GFS) been awful for at least a few years.

    3. Travis (Oxford, MI) says:

      I thought Bastardi quit. A blind monkey has a better track record.

      1. Bastardi quit Accuweather, but hasn’t quit being the “chief forecaster” (what a title) at Weatherbell. Not sure if Accuweather is better off with or without him. I do consider Bastardi to be better than Henry Margusity and his meteorological madness though.

  39. fixxxer says:

    been a horrid fall & winter soo far. nothing but cloudy and dreary. we hit the mid 50′s and we cannot even get any sun. and that’s the truth folks.

    1. Mark (East Lansing) says:

      Broken record.

    2. GunLakeDeb says:

      We had lots of sun this week! Maybe I’m just far enough east to be out of LE clouds?? I’m straight south of GRR

  40. Travis (Oxford, MI) says:

    Up to 61 degrees in Monroe. 29 degrees above average!

    My car in Troy read 57 this afternoon with the sun shining.

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