Winter Weather Advisory – Monday Morning

January 26th, 2013 at 3:34 pm by under Bill's Blog, Weather

The  Winter Weather Advisory will continue until 1 PM for Oceana, Newaygo, Mecosta, Mason, Lake Osceola, Isabella and Clare Counties for icy roads from the overnight freezing rain.  Road conditions will gradually improve thru the morning in these areas.   After a cold week, the ground/pavement is cold and roads may still be icy, especially side streets and rural roads, even when the temperature climbs a couple degrees above freezing.   We are still looking at a major warm-up into the mid 40s (northern lakeshore) to mid 50s Tuesday/Tuesday Night – and a major cool down after that with a potential flash freeze and (significant in favorable W-NW flow) lake-effect snow showers from Weds. PM to Friday.  The GFS gives G.R. a high of 54.5 Tuesday, a flash freeze Weds. evening and a high of 19 on Thurs. and 14 on Friday!  The GFS also gives G.R. 3″ of snow from Thurs. to Sat. AM and higher amounts in the lakeshore counties (9″ for Muskegon and Ludington).  The European gives G.R. a high of 55 on Tues. (but only 46 for Muskegon where there is more snow) and 5 above Fri. AM.  Also, as temperatures thaw, watch for ice jams on area rivers and the possiblity of a period of thick fog Mon-Tues. as the warm, moist air comes over the snow and cold ground.  And…looks like another snow dump for the U.P.  The frost depth is down to at least a foot in parts of Kent Co.  Without the insulating snow cover, this week’s cold has resulted in some broken water lines.     BTW – We went to a sushi restaurant for lunch – Beach Boys music in the background…interesting combination!   Also:  Inside Google.

352 Responses to “Winter Weather Advisory – Monday Morning”

  1. Michele L says:

    Indy~CALL ME!!! :)

  2. Swatz_Zoo(Cedar Springs) says:

    Thank you to my husbands uncle who fixed my snow blower just in time and delivered it yesterday! He rocks!!

  3. KF (SE of Lowell) says:

    Snowing hard in western Ionia County around the I-96 corridor.

  4. Steelie says:

    Good Day,

    Near Breton and 52nd. Well, that was short lived. Snow has stopped, for now. Less than a tenth of an inch.


  5. INDY says:

    NWS little off on there snowfall tonight!!! INDYY…

  6. Cort S. says:

    Latest HRRR model, simulated radar forecast: Click here.
    Moderate-heavy precipitation should last another few hours, and lighter precipitation will be with us for much of the night.

    Its best guess on precipitation type: Click here.
    Snow should transition to freezing rain from SW to NE over the next few hours, then transition from freezing rain to rain from SW to NE overnight. Chicago started reporting freezing rain a little over two hours ago now.

  7. Jack says:

    Wow.. Tv 8, Radar showing The DEEPEST DARKEST BLUE… I’ve seen this WINTER…YET… SPIN : Bob Dylan – Tangled Up in Blue (Lyrics) – YouTube

    ► 4:28► 4:28

  8. INDY says:


    1. Swatz_Zoo(Cedar Springs) says:

      yeah it’s going strong now, maybe the bubble lifted!

  9. INDY says:

    Kids stay up late tonight watch cartoons driver your parents nuts eat lots of candy and sleep in tomorrow be your school bell will not be doing a ding ding or a ring ring !!! SNOW DAY COMING!! INDYY..

    1. Swatz_Zoo(Cedar Springs) says:

      I’ve had that feeling for the last 2 days as well but it’s a wait and see. Hopefully the phone will ring before 6am if my boys school closes.

      1. Szokoe says:

        Doubtful, there’s not much headed our way

  10. Cort S. says:

    GRR’s dual-pol radar showing a melting layer over Van Buren county and parts of Allegan and Kalamazoo counties. There should be icy precip falling there now, either sleet or ZR. This transition from snow to freezing precip should spread northeastward over the next few hours.

    1. Cort S. says:

      And I just transitioned from snow to sleet in Holland over the past several minutes.

      1. Tom in Alger Heights says:

        Cort…This is the first I’ve heard of a dual polarization radar. Got a link?

        1. Cort S. says:

          The NWS, DOD, and FAA have been upgrading their radars to dual-pol over the past couple of years. Grand Rapids was one of the earlier ones to get upgraded. Here is an FAQ on what dual-pol is (PDF document)…

          And within that document I found a link to this video…

        2. Cort S. says:

          We used to be able to see precipitation intensity (Reflectivity) and wind speed (Radial Velocity) with the standard radar. Dual pol keeps those, but adds 3 main things for us to see: Differential Reflectivity (ZDR), Correlation Coefficient (CC), and Specific Differential Phase (KDP). Long story short, these dual-pol products give us much better indications of precipitation type (snow, hail, rain, melting snow, birds, tornado debris, you name it). Before then, we could only make some educated guesses.

          Here is some training material, with lots of pretty pictures. There is a pretty steep learning curve to understand this stuff, but you might find it enjoyable to look at the pictures to see what dual-pol is capable of…

          To see dual-pol in action, I like going to the College of DuPage radar site…

          …You can click on “Product Menu” up in the upper left corner to select the different radar products.

      2. Laurie says:

        Yep, we have sleet in Bangor right now. Should be an interesting drive to work in the morning

        1. Irish coffee says:

          Hi neighbor!!

      3. Jack says:

        CORT You dah MAN, Keep the Links Coming !! Tx’s… :-)

  11. INDY says:

    I dont know how northeast it will roll looks more like a west to east flow the precip is going!! INDYY..

    1. Cort S. says:

      The precipitation is rolling west to east, because the winds in the cloud layer are coming from the west. Below the cloud layer is the melting layer, where winds are from the southwest, bringing up warm air to melt the snow after it falls out of the clouds.

  12. Nathan says:

    First, I would like to point out that I don’t have school tomorrow anyways, but when should the ice end? If it ends at five, then most people would have school, and if it ends at 9, then there may be many closings…

  13. INDY says:

    Grand Rapids is north of the warm front it may stay like that all night GR may get 4-8 inches of snow out of this looks like the precip is on a more west to east flow not letting the warm air roll north its haveing a hard time becosue its to cold outside!! …THEE GREAT TRACK RACK AND STACK IS ON!!!! OHHH BABY WHAT A STORM WE ARE GETIING!! INDYY,,,

    1. Cort S. says:

      North of the warm front is where sleet and freezing rain events happen, as long as the temperatures are right near that sweet spot, the magical 32-degree threshold. The warm front is actually the boundary of the warm air at the ground. Aloft, warm air rides up and over the warm front. So where we are, north of the warm front, we have freezing cold air near the ground, then aloft we have above-freezing air riding up over top of the cold air, which serves to melt the snow that is falling out of the clouds.

      1. Nathan says:

        Cort, how do you know all this??

        1. Cort S. says:

          6 years of college education in meteorology. :)

        2. Dan (Rockford) says:

          Yes–there is a very good reason I pay attention to what Cort says rather than many other heavy posters on this blog: he knows what he is talking about!

        3. Nathan says:

          LOL Well that would explain

      2. INDY says:

        Still 27* out thee YARDofBRICKS to cold for sleet or rain…INDYY..

        1. Cort S. says:

          You can get sleet or freezing rain with those temperatures. Just needs to be a layer of above-freezing temperatures in between you and the clouds.

  14. Tonka says:

    Correct me if I am wrong, but it looks like this event will not last long? The rain/mix seems to be just south of our border. Is it that slow moving? Boy my girls are hoping for a snow day tomorrow in Zeeland.

    1. Cort S. says:

      The radar picture may not be so accurate. I have transitioned to sleet in Holland, and the weather station in South Haven is reporting either sleet or freezing rain. Kalamazoo just transitioned to sleet also.

  15. Zach Lassiter says:

    Another mesodiscussion for our area just issued

    1. Nathan says:

      So a transition to freezing rain within the next 1-2 hours… And heavier snow than expected. :)

  16. INDY says:


    1. Jack says:


      ► 3:08► 3:08
      SPRITES, Flowing, Like thee Heavy Snow.. ;> ;-)

      1. INDY says:


    2. Katie in Kentwood says:

      got light snow in Kentwood…

  17. Brian(Grandville) says:

    55 on Tuesday now. Goodness, bye-bye snow.

    1. INDY says:

      if we even make 55 lolololoollololoo temps in the 50′s on Tuesday we would still have snow on the ground by hump day!! INDYY..

  18. Freezing rain is starting to come down here.

  19. Battle Creek- i94 says:

    Radar shows this should be the heaviest snow I have ever saw. Bring it on. Cancelled my drive to Hastings tonight because of it.

    1. Battle Creek- i94 says:

      bah, ice instead of snow now.

      1. Cort S. says:

        The radar showed super strong reflectivity (in WOOD’s radar case, super dark blues) over you because the radar beam was passing through the melting layer over Battle Creek. When snow melts while falling, they like to stick together to make really big precipitation particles, plus the ice gets coated in liquid. Melting snow reflects a lot of the radar beam back to the radar, so the radar is tricked into thinking it’s precipitating very very heavily.

  20. Todd In Nunica says:

    just hearing some sleet hit the windows in the last few min here. (snowfall from the start to now about 1/8 inch)

  21. INDY says:


  22. Tom in Alger Heights says:

    Just started snowing again in Alger Heights. Not looking forward to the freezing rain anticipated in the mesodiscussion.

  23. Tom in Alger Heights says:

    BTW….1/4″ of new snow on the deck.

  24. DF (SE Mich) says:

    Very heavy snow in Ann Arbor. It started as ice but we now have an inch of snow in an hour.

  25. INDY says:

    Bill over 3 inches of new snow out thee YARDofBRICKS and still snowing..INDYY….

    1. Katie in Kentwood says:

      really? I’m going to say less than 0.25 inches of new snow here at 44th/Breton.

  26. Brent - Zeeland says:

    Sleet/Freezing rain coming down here.

  27. Steelie says:

    Good Day,

    Near Breton and 52… Snow is back on. Waiting on the transition… ;-)


  28. Rob's Wife says:

    Just had a crazy drive home from via the E Beltline heading north from 28th St to 4 Mile! Stay home if it’s not an emergency, the roads are already dangerous! The snow is accumulating so quickly.

  29. kevin. w says:

    Heavy snow coming down now and just had a rumble of thunder almost white out conditions now just south of Mt. Pleasant.

    1. INDY says:

      Haaaa thats the thundersnow we had over thee YARDofBRICKS..Just about ready to get smoe more!!! Hey Cort still snow verry hard over Gr!!! no sleet yet!! IN DYY..

      1. Cort S. says:

        It’s coming, INDY! Zeeland is getting the sleet now! Enjoy your snow while it lasts! Either way, I love a good storm, no matter what type of precipitation is hitting the ground!

  30. Ben (Charlotte) says:

    Changed over to sleet now here.

    But that burst of snowfall, on top of the 2 inches that was already there, has given me the deepest snow I’ve had on the ground all winter!

    Even if it is only temporary. :(

  31. Geneo says:

    A good 1 inch of snow in Greenville and still snowing.

  32. Swatz_Zoo(Cedar Springs) says:

    very Light snow up here however I don’t feel freezing rain/sleet but the trees out back are sounding like ice on the branches, making that snapping crackle pop sound. 28F up here, give it 5min it’ll change to something else or nothing at all.

  33. weather watcher Newaygo/Oceana says:

    Snow! But very large flakes..I have almost an inch and a half since 4:30.

  34. Scott E (Jamestown) says:

    Sleet/Freezing rain here now.

  35. INDY says:


  36. Tom in Alger Heights says:

    Cort…thanks for the link and the lesson.

    1. Cort S. says:

      You’re welcome. And here is yet another cool site that shows better pictures of what dual-pol is capable of:

  37. VERY heavy snow!! I snapped a photo, with the flash, it looks like a blizzard!

  38. Tom in Alger Heights says:

    Wet snow with sleet bouncing off the screen door.

  39. INDY says:

    Seeing more blue the pink again on the radar the warm air is having trouble getting into West Michigan….nice pic chuck of SNOW!! INDYY…

  40. Katie in Kentwood says:

    Looks like the edge of the snow is almost to Kent County pushing east…:(

  41. Steelie says:

    Good Day,

    Near Breton and 52nd… Transitioning. Snow sleet mix now.


  42. weather watcher Newaygo/Oceana says:

    Just heard sleet hitting the windows..looked outside and it is snowing like crazy.

  43. INDY says:

    Katie it has been snowing verry hard out thee YARDofBRICKS since 5pm we have well over 3 inches of snow on the ground now!! INDYY..

    1. Swatz_Zoo(Cedar Springs) says:

      Snow picked up here again, bigger flakes no sleet yet either Indy.

    2. Katie in Kentwood says:

      Less than half an inch here…strange.

  44. Michael (Berrien county) says:

    Heavy freezing rain/sleet here in southern Berrien county…… getting very slick outside right now, with temps around 30 degrees.

  45. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

    LOL…the Muskegon area got dissed AGAIN from a synoptic system…maybe a fourth inch of snow. STILL waiting to get over an inch of snow from a SYNOPTIC system this year. Precip. fell apart over us again. Cort, can you PLEASE explain why this keeps happening in Muskegon?

    1. Cort S. says:

      No idea. Terrible luck is all I can say.

    2. Todd In Nunica says:

      But remember Matt we had a LOT of snow this past week (close to 30″) while most others got left out!

      I know it was lake snow…but gotta admit was (and still is) quite the winter wonderland out here. I am wondering how much will melt the next 48 hrs…(all of it off my roof would be nice)

      Tomorrow is snowman making day!

      1. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

        Hey Todd, is it really “bad luck” or there a meteorological phenomenon that this area gets dry slotted so often?

        I am so happy about our lake effect, but I am baffled at the persistent dry slots that hit us.

  46. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    Currently – heavy snow – 2 inches so far and more on the way! A lot of SNOW and very little freezing rain on the way. Also very little rain on Monday and Tuesday and then a lot of lake effect and clipper snow the rest of the week! We are headed into a great SNOWY pattern. Bring it on!!!!!!!!!!!

    1. Swatz_Zoo(Cedar Springs) says:

      Same here Rocky, not sure what area of Rockford you are at but up here near 17mile/Myers Lake around 2″ as well.

    2. Rocky (Rockford) says:

      Near 13 mile and the E-way.

  47. Cort S. says:

    The NSSL is looking for volunteers (bloggers like you!) to report the precipitation that you are seeing in real time. This is the perfect weather event for them to study. Your help is greatly appreciated.

    All you have to do is click “Report Winter Weather,” and tell them what you see.

    1. Cort S. says:

      They would like decimal degrees of latitude/longitude. So, for example, in Holland, I would have:
      A latitude of approximately: 42.7
      A longitude of approximately: -86.1 (note the minus sign)
      It would be best to use at least 2 decimal digits in your lat/lon, or 3 or more would be better. I only used 1 decimal digit in my example above.

    2. dereks says:

      Hey Cort, why aren’t you working at the weather channel or somewhere?

      1. Cort S. says:

        I just graduated with my Master’s last month, so I am in between jobs right now. Who knows where I’ll end up? We’ll find out soon, hopefully.

    3. Jack says:

      Thank-You CORT , Bookmarked It..!!!

      1. Swatz_Zoo(Cedar Springs) says:

        Yes THank you, book marked as well

  48. INDY says:

    HEY CORT still coming down in GR as SNOW temp of 27* over 4 inches on the ground of new snow NWS was a little off on this snow event tonight!! INDYYY…

    1. Cort S. says:

      You got it good INDY! Not everyone was as lucky as you. Send some over to fixx’s place!

      1. INDY says:

        lololololololo he’s under hid bed tonight watching pink!! INDYY..

    2. Swatz_Zoo(Cedar Springs) says:

      26F the snow gets heavy than lightens heavy than lightens up.

    3. Jack says:

      Sill Snowing at decent Clip here as Well,,, looks like aprox. 2- 3 inches since it started Snowing !Flake size is Big as Well…!!

    4. INDY says:

      lololo then we will have a flodd with lots of mudd!! INDYY..

    5. Rocky (Rockford) says:

      Forget the rain. It should never rain in January!

  49. KF (SE of Lowell) says:

    Just went out and measured 1.5 inches of snow on my driveway. Snowing very hard still with a little mix. I can hear it hitting the trees in the woods. Sure is pretty out.

  50. Paul (Yankee Springs/Barry State Game Area) says:

    Was snowing heavily in south Kent County. ..Accidents were really coming in when I went off duty 15 minutes ago……now switching to sleet in Caledonia area and I’m headed home just in time. !!!

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