Lake Effect Snow Warning Continues

January 31st, 2013 at 4:12 pm by under Bill's Blog, News, Weather

   The Lake-Effect Snow Warning has been extended into more counties (dark green on the map), including Kent and Calhoun Counties.  See radar and the links below.  We’ve already had 6″+ in parts of Ottawa, Allegan, Van Buren – and this is going to continue tonight into tomorrow.  More snow is likely over the weekend into early next week.  The heaviest snow will be in the 12-18″ category with drifts over 2 feet.  More after the news.  Big Wreck on I-94 near Mattawan – 9 semis and 12 cars involved.  There was also a deadly crash on I-75 near Detroit involving over 30 vehicles.  Police confirm 3 fatalities (2 of them were children) and 15 -20 have been transported to hospitals.  The accident happened by the Rouge River Bridge around 9 AM.  The accident was a HAZMAT Level 3 sight due to fuel/chemical spills.  Big News Day today…watch us at 10, 11.      The “Beyond the Violence” special is on WOOD-TV right now (7-8 PM).

156 Responses to “Lake Effect Snow Warning Continues”

  1. Jack says:

    FIRST, 2 Times in 1 Day !! ;-) . Thank- You BILL, and Storm Team 8, a JOB Well Done !! Again !!! :-)

    1. Rumrunner says:

      HAHAHA, thats awesome!

  2. Steelie says:

    Good Day,

    First! Hehe. ;-)

    It certainly looks like this is shaping up to be a more “intense” event compared to last week. But it does look to me as if temps may moderate a bit (slowly) next week.

    Steelie

    1. Steelie says:

      Good Day,

      Hah… Jack you snuck in while I was typing!

      Not bothering to snow blow the driveway just yet. Maybe Saturday. But I did clear the sidewalk for the kids coming home from school…

      Steelie

      1. Jack says:

        LOL, Sorry Steelie…. NO Sneaking about it Though, Speaking of Sneaking !! Remember This Tune My Friend ? ;-) CUE: Robert Palmer – Sneakin Sally Through The Alley (with lyrics …

        ► 4:31► 4:31
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8M2bxoGbgY
        ENJOY !

        1. Steelie says:

          Good Day,

          Ah yes…

          Steelie

  3. Nathan says:

    So is GR going to still get snow tonight and tomorrow??

    1. Jack says:

      YES, INDEED, 4 SURE, ECT………… ;-)

  4. Katie in Kentwood says:

    I an interested to know where we compare as to last year. Seems that we’ve had more of a ‘normal’ winter this year compared to last…

    1. Jeff (Richland) says:

      Nov/Dec/early Jan were almost snowless. Only during the last week or so have things picked up snow wise.

      1. Katie in Kentwood says:

        Yeah I said ‘more’ of a ‘normal’ winter than last year…certainly not anything like a regular Michigan winter. This year has definitely been a lot like last year, but I hope we get more snow than last year.

    2. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

      I’m running at about a 15″ snow deficit compared to this time last year. Although I could surpass that amount by the end of this weekend. This year has been anything but “normal”. No system snow, and 2 big lake effect events. Temps in the 50′s and 60′s, and then temps in the 10′s and 20′s the days after.

      1. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

        Yeah, it is more like Colorado weather. Except we have had NO synoptic snow. Still have not received a SINGLE INCH of purely synoptic snow in the Muskegon area.

        I was thinking one thing is better this winter…we actually have snow that does not melt from the ground up in two hours like last year. I remember even the powdery snowfalls last winter even being heavy because the snow was melting as it touched the ground.

    3. Katie in Kentwood says:

      GR had 47 inches of snow last season. I wonder where we are at right now.

  5. Larry from Hastings/Barry Co says:

    We are getting a heavy band of snow.

    1. GunLakeDeb says:

      I was driving westbound on 141st, west of Patterson about 4 PM. It was sunny (!) – yet I could see heavy bands of snow to the N, and especially the one I had driven through in the Cobb Lake-to-Bass Lake Rd area. THAT one was darn near a whiteout at times.

      It looked like the snow band was actually very close to the ground, because the sun was shining over the top of it??? Weird stuff.

  6. Imthemom (just n holland) says:

    Not that much snow here so far. It’s been blowing hard. Can still see the grass.

  7. Winter started late, and now we are on pace to beat last years totals.

  8. Brian(Grandville) says:

    6 inches here already, still snowing.

  9. Todd In Nunica says:

    Have about 3″ in my drive (which is sheltered and on the East side of the garage)

    Just drove into Spring Lake (in town) and although found a few drifts over 4″ the vast majority of my lots I plow have 1″ with some drifting. That strong West wind does this a lot, seems to snow like mad but has a hard time accumulating until you get to about Nunica then it seems to pile up.

    Seen this time and time again since ive lived here and drove to the lakeshore to plow.

    On a plus note, Muskegon got 27″ (I know we got more at my house cause every night I plowed more in my drive than the rest of my route) of snow last week, 2 more weeks like that and we are “almost” at normal snow for the year.

    1. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

      It sure has been dumping the past three hours though. I would guess we have picked up a couple inches this evening. White outs galore. Apparently 31 is AWFUL in the Muskegon area.many slide-offs. They should post signs that set a mandatory lower speed limit during inclement weather. I just wish there was some way they could enforce it better.

      Seriously people. DON’T be ding dongs going 70 mph in this weather. You are NOT invincible.

  10. GunLakeDeb says:

    Swatz – where are you?? Do you have that man in your possession???!! Give him a big hug from all of us!!

    1. Swatz_Zoo(Cedar Springs) says:

      Indeed I do! But when he’s home he is physically here but he’s so jet lagged and EXHAUSTED, he’s laying on the couch trying to keep his eyes open while watching the boys play their XBOX. But yes, I have my man in my possession and a warm body next to me on this cold night and HOPING for a snow day tomorrow so our boys can have a full day with him on a 3 day weekend. :-)

      1. Annie says:

        Let’s hope for a snow day at CW!

        1. Swatz_Zoo(Cedar Springs) says:

          Do your kids go to CW? There have been comments that there may, so I’m hoping the LES needs to “pump it” up more up here. As Jack CUES: Black Eye Peas “Pump it” however this video is adorable too! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHz9Ygn8UXg

        2. Jack says:

          Yay….. SWAT- ZOO !!!! This more Of a JACK CUE ( style ) OLD School ….PUMP IT…UUUUUUPPPP…;;;;;;;;;;; Elvis Costello & The Attractions – Pump it up 1978 – YouTube

          ► 2:41► 2:41
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opIL3Yt0Un8
          ENJOY…WOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOO. ;-)

      2. ~Sherry~ (Comstock Park) says:

        :) )

  11. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    1. COLD and SNOW rules!
    2. We are in a LAKE EFFECT SNOW WARNING with temps in the teens! It doesn’t get much better than that!
    3. The SNOW will be picking up in intensity over night!
    4. There will be many school closings on Friday!
    5. We have more SNOW coming with one clipper after another for most of next week!
    6. GR will end up with close to 12 inches of snow by the end of the weekend!
    7. Winter sports look great for this weekend!
    8. We are entrenched in a SNOWY pattern. Get used to it!!!!
    9. ROCK n ROLL will never die baby!!!!!

    1. Rad (Jenison/Hudsonville) says:

      Reminder…
      Clean Car,Windows,Taillights free of Snow/Ice.
      Turn Head lights On.
      Don’t Tailgate.
      AND SLOW DOWN!!!!!!!

      1. Rad (Jenison/Hudsonville) says:

        Put The Damn Cell Phones away or Pull Off the road to Talk/Text.
        Thank You Very Much :) Rad !

      2. Annie says:

        I wish more people had your COMMON SENSE!

        1. Blue Moon says:

          and drive slow in the right lane, not the left lane!

      3. Deb says:

        TURN ON THE HEADLIGHTS! I can’t tell you how many people I see in gray cars driving around with no headlights on.

      4. Beth says:

        I am always amazed at the people who don’t turn their headlights on in snow,rain and fog. Not smart!

    2. Steelie says:

      Good Day,

      Just in time for the Muskegeon Winter Fest…

      Steelie

  12. Nathan says:

    Is the snow going to move SW of GR or will we still get hit? I think thats the big question tonight.

    1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

      The RDB model shows GR picking up 5 inches of SNOW tonight. Bring it on!

      1. Nathan says:

        Yes, Bill (and other meteorologist) said 406 inches of snow for GR by Friday afternoon, most of which will fall tonight. More on west and SW side, but still a lot for northern/eastern areas!!

        1. Nathan says:

          Haha! Typo, i meant 4-6 inches of snow. The 0 key is so close to the – key LOL

  13. Steelie says:

    Good Day,

    Huh… Looks like the ground is still damp under the snow. Went out to fill the bird feeder and left behind very muddy and wet footprints. Even the concrete must be a little “warm” because the snow was slushy against the sidewalk when I cleared it.

    Steelie

  14. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    My NWS point forecast gives me 12 inches of snow over the next 4 days!! Bring it on. I love it when the warm weather nuts and the naysayers are WRONG and we get nailed with COLD and SNOW!! Keep it coming – the more SNOW and COLD the better!!!!!!

    1. Jack says:

      And let us Not Forget, The JEM Model Prediction, Next Week !! Thank- You…… ;-)

    2. Jack says:

      ROCKY,INDY are U Ready ???? SPIN ::::::::::: Elvis Presley – Ready Ready Ready To Rock ‘n’ Roll (BW) – YouTube

      ► 2:05► 2:05
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vwq0ZMPsx3Y
      ;-)

      1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

        Now that is some old school ROCK n ROLL! The JEM model was pretty close on the blizzard date. I think the BLIZZARD conditions will be happening tonight and over the weekend! Keep the ROCK N ROLL and the SNOW coming!

      2. Rocky (Rockford) says:

        All day long baby. Bring on the COLD and SNOW – the more the better!!!

  15. Nathan says:

    So is this snow supposed to intensify or not? I am in a heavy band right now, but besides that, I only see light snow on the radar.

    1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

      Yes, the SNOW will be intensifying around 9 or 10 PM and then the moderate to heavy SNOW will be lasting til 4 or 5 AM. Keep the COLD and SNOW coming!!!!

      1. Nathan says:

        Its actually beginning to intensify again. Nice band over me!

  16. Yup (Grandville) says:

    Snow has all but stopped in grandville. Good 5 to 6 inches. Well see if we get any more tonight.

    1. Yup (Grandville) says:

      *we’ll see

    2. Rocky (Rockford) says:

      You will be seeing a lot more SNOW tonight! Get Ready!!

  17. DF (SE Mich) says:

    There are some impressive snow totals up north:
    19.1″ Shingleton U.P. (48 hours)
    11.3″ Paradise U.P.
    9″ Bellaire L.P.

  18. Swatz_Zoo(Cedar Springs) says:

    Honestly on my deck I’m maybe measuring 2- 2 1/2in, still waiting on this LES to hit my neighborhood yet 1 mile white out, see I’m keeping the bubble nice and firm over me :-)

  19. Nathan says:

    The snow is beginning to fill in throughout the area again. Everyone say thanks to the wave!! :)

    1. Nathan says:

      I just hope it doesn’t shift any further south or else Im in trouble!

  20. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

    Snow has been coming down heavily here for the past four hours. My area is under one of those nice bands showing up on the radar

  21. Don (Battle Creek) says:

    Can’t remember the last time Calhoun county was under a LE snow warning….definitely doesn’t happen very often! We’ll see what happens.

  22. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

    It sure seems like we have our own little bubble here today. We had 3″ or so by 7am, then barely received any between 7am and 1pm, then we picked up a quick 2″ in 2 hours, and have been in another hole since about 4pm. It finally looks like the winds are dieing down, and the lake effect is becoming more “solid”, and not in streaky bands like all of today. Let the lake effect dump happen tonight!

    1. Stephen (North Muskegon says:

      Somone elses turn for once!

    2. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

      But I don’t want to! lol

      1. SS (Pwell Area) says:

        How funny… it really depends where you are. It snowed here from the time I got up until about 5:30 and stopped for awhile. Now it’s snowing again…

      2. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

        When we went to Kalamazoo this afternoon it was snowing insanely hard in Martin, and not in Plainwell south to Kalamazoo. Seems like you guys have been getting it all the other times though. It is starting to intensify here again also.

  23. Mike (Mattawan) says:

    Well im measuring a consistent 8 inches of snow with drifts well over a foot and a half against the house. The snow is beginning to pick up once again. Here comes wave 3.

  24. Nick (Grand Haven / West Olive) says:

    maybe 3” here today. Most everything blew away :(

  25. Jack says:

    Not really Sure exactly how much I, have received Here, However I know it’s Light + Fluffy, Hence my neighbor , Clearing his Driveway With a LEAF-BLOWER…. That’s the only WHITE-OUT, I’ve seen Today !, Lol.. ;-)

    1. Swatz_Zoo(Cedar Springs) says:

      Yup, pretty much here. Rather disappointing actually.

  26. Tonka says:

    I was actually surprised how slick the roads were this morning and now in zeeland. Can’t remember ever fish tailing in a front wheel driven car, but did today. It’s weird here too, its been snowing quite hard in my area for most of the day but the accumulation doesn’t seem to coincide with the intensity. The snow are these fine little pellets almost. Anyhow, kiddos are on “no school” buzz right now for tomorrow. Snow days were awesome when I was young, so unlike my parents, I root for my kids to enjoy it. Before they know it, snow days will be gone for ever.

  27. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

    Channel 17 has Allegan leading the pack with 10″ so far. I bet they are close to 40″ of lake effect in the past week and a half!

  28. arcturus says:

    Snow bands moving out of Kent Co.

    1. Bill Steffen says:

      The microcast that we showed at 6 pm had the snow retreating to the southwest corner of Kent Co. The bands should go all night across much of Ottawa and Allegan Counties. The wind goes more westerly tomorrow and that should move the bands inland to the city (though they will be mostly light).

      1. Nathan says:

        Great, so no snow for me… :(

  29. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    The SNOW bands will be intensifying and spreading in coverage! Kent County will be seeing plenty of SNOW tonight!!!! Bring on the COLD and SNOW!!!!!!

    1. Kevin(Rockford) says:

      Is that the word? Hope your right

    2. arcturus says:

      Bill confirms the opposite (except for southern portions of Kent Co). Keep those wrong predictions coming RR.

      1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

        fixxxer go back under your rock!

    3. Harry (Battle Creek) says:

      The best lift and environment is currently over us and pressing east as we speak. There should be a downward trend to snowfall starting soon. Heavy snow will be limited to west of 131 after midnight.

      1-4″ prediction looks like it could be pretty close here in BC.

  30. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

    I’m liking the look of the radar. Heavy snow for all of Allegan County now.

    1. Brian(Grandville) says:

      Not me, snow looks to be sinking south out of the Kent county, hopefully it will pick back up later. Isn’t there another wave coming through tonight.

    2. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

      Yes, but I don’t know if the snow is going to expand any from what it is right now. Might just intensify where it currently is. Hard to tell with lake effect since it changes constantly.

  31. Sprites(Holland) says:

    Snow definitely picking up here in Holland. Expect a good amount tonight.

  32. Nathan says:

    When will the snow hit GR again? Will it miss us AGAIN to the SW????

  33. Lovely Snow says:

    And NO snow plows until 5 a.m. in Allegan County. Great!

    1. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

      There might be a lot of snow on all of the Allegan County roads by that time! It’s hard to keep up with it anyways.

  34. Harry (Battle Creek) says:

    Had about 45 minutes of heavy snow here in Battle Creek. Been flurries since. 2″ so far. Got a long way to go to reach 7-8″ by 1PM tomorrow.

    I have a feeling Calhoun county will be dropped from the warning shortly. Could be replaced with an advisory.

    1. Don (Battle Creek) says:

      Looking outside, I don’t know why we ended up under the warning, to be honest. Wouldn’t surprise me to see it downgraded at this point.

      1. Harry (Battle Creek) says:

        I agree. It looked more promising earlier today.

      2. Jack says:

        My, Guess is The NWS Issued The Warnings, so not 2 Get Caught with Their PANTS DOWN.. So 2 Speak..Like last Time we Had LES. Thoughts ?… ;-)

        1. Harry (Battle Creek) says:

          It’s most likely due to uncertainty in where the convergence bands would set up.

          They set up and drop lots of snow, but are very hard to pinpoint.

  35. Michael (Berrien county) says:

    That 1-2 inches for southern Berrien that Wood tv is predicting is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYY off. We already have had close to 6 I’d say since last night & it’s still coming down at a good clip here. NWS says 3-6 more with locally higher amounts. I wouldn’t be surprised to see 8-12 total thru Friday out of this….. with more then to come over the weekend. I’m luvin’ it!!! :-)

  36. Nathan (Forest Hills) says:

    I just hope I wake up tomorrow with lots of snow on the ground so I can shovel the driveway for the first time! Hopefully Woods “4-6 inches on top of what you already have in Grand Rapids” prediction is accurate :)

  37. tim says:

    so anyone think school in Grand Rapids tomorrow

  38. KevinS (Saugatuck) says:

    You can almost follow the one dominate lake effect band all the way across the state and even over much of lake erie…impressive..

  39. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    The models show about 5 clippers hitting the GR area over the next 6 or 7 days! Keep the COLD and SNOW rolling!!!!!!!!!! Oh by the way GR will be seeing plenty of SNOW over the next 18 to 24 hours!!!

    1. Nathan (Forest Hills) says:

      Then why isn’t it snowing right now?

      1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

        Give it time young man!! You will be rolling in the SNOW tomorrow and most of the weekend and all of next week!!!!!!!!!!!

        1. Nathan (Forest Hills) says:

          Well there goes that :( going to bed

        2. Jack says:

          Good Nite.. Nathan…zzzzzzzzzzzz. ;-)

        3. arcturus says:

          From ‘Kent County will be seeing plenty of SNOW tonight!!!!’ to ‘Give it time young man!!’ in 50 minutes.

          Care to change your forcast again?

        4. Nathan (Forest Hills) says:

          No, we aren’t getting snow tonight. Hopefully tomorrow and tomorrow night is more promising!!

    2. Michael (Berrien county) says:

      I certainly hope so….. even though if we don’t get the actual synoptic snow from the clippers….. they at least will certainly act to enhance the lake effect into next week, which will continue to pile up.

  40. LISA says:

    Just drove from Woodland Mall back home to Alto, no snow coming down the whole way home.

  41. Cort S. says:

    Sorry West wind people, it’s time for the Northwest wind people to get hammered now.

    Radar loop: http://climate.cod.edu/flanis/nexrad.php?type=GRR-N0Q-1-24

    1. Brian(Grandville) says:

      Any impulses/enhancement/wind shifts coming through tonight Cort? NWS said something at about 22Z. Not sure what time that is.

      1. Cort S. says:

        That was about 5 pm. Now the wind has shifted in the last couple hours toward the NW. You can see the lake effect snow bands on radar starting to reorient themselves, and flow in a more southeastward direction. This is why the snow suddenly shut off in Kent County for just about everyone except Grandville and Byron.

      2. Brian(Grandville) says:

        Thanx for the helpful info as always sir.

  42. Only Trace amounts in N.E. and S.W Gratiot Co, I was shocked to see Gratiot put under a lake snow advisory, we just dont get lake effect very often and so far its been about how I thought it would play out, a couple of snow showers leaving just Trace to maybe 0.2 things that make you go hmmmm.

  43. Slimjim says:

    No snow falling here and it’s been that way for some time now! I did receive a good 5″ of snow here so far in this event. Right now it’s just cloudy and 15 here at my house in Walker.
    Slimjim

  44. Swatz_Zoo(Cedar Springs) says:

    Well, looks like there will be school tomorrow for CW since everything is south…..AGAIN! This will most likely be once again the same pattern this severe storm season again, all S-SW. *SIGH*

    1. Jack says:

      Swatzee , This is MICHIGAN ,!!! Don’t like thee WEATHER, Wait a little Bit….. It WILL CHANGE !!! Just Enjoy your TIME with Your Husband and Boys !!! BIG SNOW COMING Your Way…. SOOOOOON…. ;-)

      1. Swatz_Zoo(Cedar Springs) says:

        Well, it’s hard to enjoy my time with him when he’s passed out on the couch, I usually just leave him alone the 1st night with all that jet lag and 4 days of travel from start to finish plane hopping, ect. I’m still holding you to the JEM for next week buddy.

        1. bobcat says:

          I’d sleep on the floor next to him if this was my dh!!!

        2. Jack says:

          No Problem,Swatzze.. It’s soon 2 be 2/4…. I believe the Boys will get off From School on Monday, as well.. The OLE JEM Model… Shall Deliver….. Stay CUED !!!!! ;-)

  45. Michael (Berrien county) says:

    I think the CPC is full of…. (ahem) ….. ‘shoot’ …….. with their above average temps here over the next 6-14 days.

    1. fixxxer says:

      Good i hope it starts to warm up and stay that way. The up & down pattern is old.

  46. Toro says:

    It’s laughable how wrong this is:

    WAVES. HOWEVER THE NEXT WAVE UPSTREAM IN WISCONSIN ARRIVES AFTER
    22Z. ALL INDICATIONS ARE THAT THE MOISTURE WILL BE DEEPER AND THE
    LIFT STRONGER FOR SOUTHWEST LOWER MI. AS A RESULT TONIGHT WE WILL
    LIKELY SEE MORE SNOW THAN WE SAW THIS MORNING. ALSO…MIXING
    HEIGHTS INCREASE CONSIDERABLY ESPECIALLY FOR THE LAKESHORE. THIS
    WILL SUPPORT GUSTY WINDS…LIKELY OVER 25 KNOTS IN COMBINATION
    WITH HEAVIER SNOW BANDS. I 94 WESTBOUND IS CURRENTLY SHUT DOWN NOW
    IN VAN BUREN CO DUE TO AN ACCIDENT. ALREADY TODAY MULTIPLE HIGHWAY
    CLOSURES DUE TO THE VERY HAZARDOUS TRAVEL CONDITIONS IN THE
    LOCALIZED INTENSE SNOWBANDS. WILL KEEP THE CURRENT HEADLINES

    Snow is weakening, retreating, warnings should be pulled for all but 3 counties

    1. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

      It’s been correct for my area so far. We have been getting our most consistent moderate snow all day over the past couple of hours.

    2. Michael (Berrien county) says:

      It may be weakening for the time being around GR due to the winds veering a lil’ more northwesterly…. but from Muskegon county southward all the way to the IN border, it’s still coming down hard. We’ve had visibility at 1 mile or less for the past several hours around here.

      1. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

        That is for sure! It has been dumping here all evening. I am interested to see how this band moving down from the north interacts with the current LES bands.

    3. Cort S. says:

      Except for the wind shift restricting the snow to a few lucky counties, it is essentially correct. The lakeshore counties, including me in Holland, are seeing their heaviest and most prolonged snow of the whole day right now. Even well-traveled roads are snow-covered; tire tracks down to pavement are hard to find. And that was my experience two hours ago. The visibility-reducing aura that this snow has is reminiscent of the Groundhogs Day blizzard 2 years ago. Wind-shattered, wind-driven snow crystals creating a mystic fog. Not quite as epic, but still really good.

  47. fixxxer says:

    Snows fun right? All of these accidents and people dying… tons of fun right rj?

    Spring will be welcomed.

    1. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

      Again, more people die in FLOODS, often from THUNDERSTORMS, than do from winter storms.

      http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/weather/tg/wfldangr/wfldangr.htm

      Oh, and your beloved HEAT:

      http://www.weather.com/outlook/weather-news/news/articles/us-weather-deaths-perspective_2011-06-15?page=2

      1. Michael (Berrien county) says:

        Yes Matt!! I agree.

      2. Yup (Grandville) says:

        Owned……. Game set match.

    2. Michael (Berrien county) says:

      Lots more people die from floods & severe weather in the spring, & from heat waves in the summer too.

      1. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

        Haha….great minds think alike?

        I also replied to your other post at the same time. :P

        1. Michael (Berrien county) says:

          Yep! Lol

  48. Darlen says:

    What is the difference between a warning and an advisory ? We have 8 inches and some in the warning have 10? What’s the criteria?

    1. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

      I was wondering the same thing. It seems the NWS uses them somewhat generically. Usually a warning is issued if it is a large amount of snow in a short period of time. The advisory is more often issued if it is a “3 to 5″” inch type of event, or if there will be a lot of snow, but lighter/moderate accums over a long period.

      This is only in reference to Lake effect snows, not winter storms.

      Somewhere on their website they used to have the criteria, but I can’t find it.

    2. Cort S. says:

      It’s tough to say nowadays. The lines have become a bit more blurred as they try to keep “impacts” in mind, and sometimes there can be significant impacts on travel with less snow than traditionally required. Traditionally, we in West Michigan are used to advisories being a 3-5 inch event, and warnings being a 6 inch event in 12 hours or 8 in 24. And then we wrestle with what to do with longer-duration events like this one. And what if amounts are low but winds and visibilities are close to blizzard-like? And advisories can be issued for the combination of freezing rain, sleet and/or snow, and accumulations are usually minor with those events. There’s just not often an easy answer to your fair question.

      Because of these issues, advisories and warnings can really be nothing more than a, “Hey, heads up, you should really take a closer look into the specifics of your local weather forecast and predicted impacts.” Every storm is unique (just consider the differences between small Category 5 Hurricane Andrew and huge Category 1 Hurricane Sandy… both would require the same simple Hurricane Warning title). So it’s probably a good idea for us not to assume the hard-and-fast rules associated with certain warning titles, or assume that the impacts of the last warned event will be the same the current one, and instead seek more-specific information from forecasters each time.

      1. Darlen says:

        Thanks guys Appreciate the info

  49. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

    That heavy band needs to stay parked over me. Getting 1-2″ per hour snowfall rates. The wind looks like it is breaking up the flakes, and there is just a ton of medium sized flakes.

    1. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

      Yeah, I wish the dumb wind would die down. It is TOUGH to have perfect conditions for LES. Last week it was too cold, this week it is too windy.

    2. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

      I’d take a repeat of last Wednesday. That was about as perfect as it gets.

      1. Cort S. says:

        Boy, I’ll say. That one was widespread. And sometimes in a perfect NNW-wind event, Holland can get a foot of snow within the course of a single workday, while the sun shines in Zeeland.

      2. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

        Cort, how much snow did you receive last Wednesday? I received 6.75″ Wednesday evening alone. And I know just a few miles to my west they received over a foot.

        1. Cort S. says:

          Somewhere around 6, might be underestimating. Difficult to tell with all that compaction, and my best source of information was the yardstick in the yard.

        2. Jack says:

          Nice… That’s Probably Why …We call Em..YARD Sticks !!! ;-)

  50. sb(anchorage) says:

    As always, Bill, it’s good to read your blog for the latest updates around the area.
    Thanks, everyone, for posting your news.
    Thought I left left winter in Alaska on Tuesday.
    My family down here teases me for bringing it along.
    Stay safe, everyone. :-)

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