Monday – more snow

February 4th, 2013 at 12:15 am by under Bill's Blog, Weather

Local We have several periods of light snow coming this week, starting this morning. There is a Lake-Effect Snow Advisory until 7 PM Monday for Ottawa, Allegan, Van Buren, Kalamazoo, Berrien and LaPorte (Indiana) Counties. We have a Winter Weather Advisory for Calhoun, Cass, St. Joseph (MI) and Branch Counties, plus much of Northern Indiana and NW Onio. Snow and flurries continue with 1-3″ accumulation – higher west and south of G.R. with the least snow NE of G.R.  There could be an isolated 4″ in favorable lakeshore areas south of Muskegon.  It’s a little slippery for the Monday AM commute.  Light winds today, so no drifting.  The next batch of light snow comes in about mid-afternoon Tuesday into Tuesday night…another 1-3″.  The GFS has the heaviest snow with the Thurs. system from Oceana/Muskegon to Saginaw…the NAM would be Ottawa Co. to just north of Detroit.  The fourth batch of precipitation may start as a mix late Thurs. and go over to snow. The European has more precipitation than the GFS and I’ll lean that way for now. That could be several inches of snow (if it’s all snow). . It’ll be a relatively cool week, though we should get to the mid 30s late this week. The models hint at a warm-up with some rain possible Sunday into Monday of next week, maybe into the low-mid 40s briefly. Then, it looks cool around mid-month with temperatures back to or slightly below average. For current Michigan weather observations and wind speeds, click here. Here’s NAM model snowfall thru 84 hours, the GFS snowfall thru 120 hours and the HPC snowfall predictions. Here’s WOOD-TV Interactive Radar, looping radar. Check out regional radar, GRR radar, northern Indiana radar, Chicago radar and Milwaukee radar. Here’s the College of DuPage Radar Map, the local warning/advisory map and the National warning/watch/advisory map. You can checkout the latest Grand Rapids NWS discussion, the Northern Indiana NWS discussion (includes the Michigan Counties that border Indiana), the discussion for Northern Lower Michigan, and Eastern Lower Michigan. Here’s the Spyglass Condos Weather Station the S. Haven GLERL station, the Muskegon GLERL station, the Grand Haven Steelheaders webcam and weather station, and the weather station at Holland State Park. Check out the WOOD lightning tracker and U.S. lightning, the Marantha Webcam at Lake Michigan and links to webcams. Here’s the infrared satellite loop (night) and the visible satellite loop (daytime), Lake Michigan water temperatures. Here’s storm total precipitation for W. Michigan .

Also:  A little good news for chocolate lovers:  “Economists are upping their forecast for Ivory Coast’s 2012-13 cocoa harvest by 6.8 percent to 1.42 million metric tons, as the region’s crops were able to finish the year unscathed from the Harmattan winds that blow in from the Sahara.”

122 Responses to “Monday – more snow”

  1. Jack says:

    First Things FIRST…..FIRST AGAIN !!! I believe THURSDAY, will Be All SNOW!!!! JEM Model , Says SOOOOOO !!! Stay CUED!!!!!!!! ;-)

  2. Skot says:


  3. Skot says:

    Nothing new in Marne. Got snow the other day, got snow the other , other day, today snow. If this was May with rain, fissster would be crying too.

  4. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

    It is as calm as it could possibly be. The snow is just falling straight to the ground, pretty cool to watch it falling. Looks like the snow is about to intensify. Hopefully we’ll get another surprise snowfall higher than what was predicted.

  5. Tyler says:

    17 years ago today here were the temperatures in the midwest. I cant find any data on Michigan temperatures that day but I assume they were just as cold.

    1. dano (Norton Shores) says:

      Feb. 4, 1996
      Grand Rapids high was +7° and the low was -14°
      Muskegon high was +10° and the low was -18°
      Kalamazoo high was +3° and the low was -11°
      Lansing high was +8° and the low was -9°
      Milwaukee high was 0° and the low was -19°

      That was a big chilly!!

  6. bobcat says:

    Where’s the interactive radar?!!

      1. bobcat says:

        never mind… sigh. Where did all the SERIOUS knowledgeable weather lovers go? Miss you all!

        1. Jack says:

          the Interactive RADAR, Works Fine for ME.. SERIOUSLY !!!!!!! miss u 2. ???? ;-)

        2. Lisa (Caledonia) says:

          Monday morning at 1 am? They were probably asleep.

        3. INDY says:


  7. Jay says:

    I think there must be as much or more snow on the ground right now than any time in the last year-and-a-half, when I moved to my current home in NE Kent. Strangely, for the last few days, I’ve had a group of 4-5 bluebirds frequenting my suet feeder. I’ve never before seen bluebirds here, much less in the dead of winter. I assumed they were migratory, like robins.

    1. Lisa (Caledonia) says:

      I saw bluebirds this past weekend, on Saturday. I found this that might explain it:

  8. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

    It is coming down like crazy right now. Huge flakes. About 1″ per hour snowfall rate.

  9. Todd In Nunica says:

    OF COURSE! I get ALL my accounts cleaned up, all of them snow free, all looking great for my customers to come in monday morning and see how nice their lots look…….,……..and it starts snowing on my way home….lmao

    1. Yup (Grandville) says:

      Making up for lost time eh Todd?

    2. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

      Aw man! Yeah, on my way up Grand Haven Rd. to work it looked like most of the lots needed plowed again. We must have gotten a couple more inches early this morning?

      Good for business!

    3. Todd In Nunica says:

      yea great for business, yea there was about 2-3″ come early this morning, back out tonight, good thing is I can head out early tonight seeing as the snow is done for now.

      Got my dad riding along tonight so someone to chat to! (im sick of the radio!)

  10. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

    Back in 1996 we had a very cold start to February that year the High in GR on Feb 2 was 1 and the low was -10 on the 3rd the high was 3 and the low was -17 and on the 4the the high was 7 and the low was -14 But by the 10th of February that year the high in GR was 51 and on the 27 it reach 58 so you can see this short month can and has had large swings in temps.

    1. Brenda (Otsego) says:

      Remember that year well. I was living in Cheboygan and my car wouldn’t start, the seat felt like bricks and it was -30!

  11. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

    Right now here in Walker we are getting ligh snow falling and the temp here is 18° I receved 2″ of new snow overnight with snow still falling.

  12. Been snowing at a pretty good clip here for the past hour and looks like some darker blues are headed this way.

  13. Travis (Oxford, MI) says:

    1.5″ snow total on the ground here… boringest winter I can recall. Total lack of winter for anyone outside of lake enhanced snow.

    After Wednesday, I’m not seeing any 20′s for highs. 30′s, 40′s, and 50′s as the average temp begins to rise about 2 degrees every week.

    1. Ben (Charlotte MI) says:

      I hear you, Travis. I think we’ve gotten a little more than you from the lake, but still not enough to use the snowblower. Not once this season.

    2. DF (SE Mich) says:

      Detroit is up to average snowfall. I agree average is boring, I want much more being from west michigan, but this is the norm for over here.

      1. Travis (Oxford, MI) says:

        Average for me is about 30″ right now. My unofficial seasonal snowfall this winter is closer to 15-20″.

        The worst part is the lack of snow on the ground for any duration. I have been unable to cross country ski once this winter!

        1. DF (SE Mich) says:

          I gave up on cross country skiing when I moved over here =) You use your skis the same as someone in Manhattan.

        2. Travis (Oxford, MI) says:

          Well thankfully where I am we get a lot more snow than Ann Arbor ;) My cousins live down in A2, so I know all about the weak winters down there.

  14. Nick (Grand Haven / West Olive) says:

    3.5-4” of fresh snow here! Went to bed at 1:30am and it wasn’t snowing. Woke up to nice fresh snow!

  15. Yup (Grandville) says:

    Well, we got some good sledding in yesterday in all this fine powder we received. The kids were thrilled!

  16. Jeff(Northern Ionia County / Muir) says:

    Been lightly snowing here since i woke up around 6AM, We have only received about a 1/4Inch but it makes for a great sight. Maybe by the end of the week there will be enough snow for sledding and my snowmobile!

  17. DF (SE Mich) says:

    What a difference a couple of weeks make over on this side of the state. Detroit is up to average snowfall for this time of year and well over total precipitation (rain and snow). There are nice big flakes falling as I type.

  18. INDY says:

    On thee other hand YARDofBRICKS has 17 inches on thee ground and still snowing!! COME AND GET SOME!!!!! INDYY..

    1. DF (SE Mich) says:

      I am officially jealous.

      1. Stacsh says:

        No you don’t Indy

        1. fixxxer says:

          of course he doesn’t have that much. i don’t even think i have 10″ on the ground in wyoming.

  19. SS (Pwell Area) says:

    Cleaned off the deck Saturday. There’s about 5 inches since Saturday afternoon…

    1. INDY says:


    2. Ned S. (Now in South Holland) says:

      I just saw it. Awesome Bill!

  20. INDY says:

    getting some thoughts on Thursdays snow storm com ing we will be under the gun!!!! GOOD SYNOPIC SNOWS TODAY!! LET IT SNOW LET IT SNOW LET IT SNOW..INDYY..

    1. Jack says:

      Thursday’s Snow Storm…Was called for by THE JEM Model !! 6 or 8 weeks AGO!!!!! WOW, Simply AMAZING !!! Stay CUED !!!!!! ;-)

  21. fixxxer says:

    44 days till spring.

    1. Yup (Grandville) says:

      And you’ll still find something to complain about!! :) ;) :P Just poking fun Fixxx

  22. DF (SE Mich) says:

    I have to say the snow falling is absolutely spectacular. It is like a snow globe with the heavy falling giant flakes with no wind.

    1. GunLakeDeb says:

      I had a meeting in Hastings this morning – and driving across on M-179 was just breathtaking – the trees that overarch the road anyway, were thick with snow….just so pretty!!

  23. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

    The 12Z GFS keeps us cold after Sunday through the rest of the 384 hours with some decent synoptic snow. The 12Z NAM doesn’t even give us any precip on Thursday.

    1. Jim S.(Saugatuck Twp) says:

      Wouldn’t mind seeing at least ONE synoptic event this winter. I can’t recall a winter without at least one winter storm warning (non lake effect). Even in the great El Nino of 1997-98, we had a March blizzard. Last year was pretty weak as well for storms, but we had two decent snowstorms if I recall. One in later February.

      1. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

        I agree! This winter has been spectacular (in a sad way) in terms of no major synoptic snows.

      2. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

        Lake Effect Snow Advisory for this area for 5 to 7 inches of snow tomorrow. Sweet!

    2. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

      It is incredible how early in the winter everything missed us, and lately they have hit us but have only been rain events. If it was a normal winter, and those rain events would have been snow I would easily be 70″ for the winter. And last year was weak, but we had a lot of 3-6″ events, and it seemed like it was always wet heavy snow last year.

      1. big Daddy BC says:

        On the other hand, temps would have been colder earlier, cooling the lake. We wouldn’t be getting the amount of lake enhanced snow we’re getting now.

        1. Bill Steffen says:

          The lake is cool:

          900 AM CST MON FEB 4 2013



          MICHIGAN CITY…32.

  24. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

    We received another fluffy 4″ since midnight. I haven’t seen this much snow on our deck since December of ’08!

  25. Tom in Alger Height says:

    Just got back from Kazoo. Took me over 1.5 hours to get down there. US 131 was a skating rink from Wayland to Plainwell. A semi lost it by the Hopkins exit and ended up with the trailer straddling the ditch and the cab through the fence. Didn’t think I was going to be able to stop when I touched the brakes. Traffic was going about 30 mph at one point.

  26. TACO BOY says:

    If only Fixxxer could count he would have a job! Get with it Fixxxer! TACO BOY

    1. INDY says:


  27. Travis (Oxford, MI) says:

    Fox 17 (starting Thurs): 37, 40, 42, 45, 35

    Wood: 34, 32, 35, 42, 26

    That’s a huge difference. It’s like Fox News versus MSNBC over here – all the time! ha Which bias do you want to follow?

    1. DF (SE Mich) says:

      Lets add the GR NWS to it:
      34, 32, 34, 38, 37

      What would they be since they are the coldest?

    2. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

      I was just going to post about this.

      Also add…
      Channel 3: 32, 32, 32, 38
      Channel 13: 36, 33, 36, 40

    3. michael g (SE GR) says:

      How did that cold bias work out the last four days? Wood had highs of 27, 29, 32, 34 from the middle of last week. We’ve seen 18, 20, 22, and tomorrow is forecast 28, but I don’t know if it will get there.

  28. Robert (Plainwell) says:

    These last few weeks have been great, just need to keep it going. The more snow the better.

    Hey Bill maybe you could change your stance on climate change and get paid to.

  29. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    More COLD and SNOW is in the forecast! I love it. I agree with Robert’s comment above – the MORE THE BETTER!! The 18Z RDB model shows GR getting 5 inches of SNOW on Tuesday!! Bring it on and ROCK n ROLL is here to stay!!!!!!!!!!!!

  30. INDY says:

    Tracking thee next clipper to hit West Michigan with a good 3-6 inches of snow winter advisory coming tonight for tomorrow …RockyRockford check out your JEM becosue IWS is showing a BLIZZZARD coming next week…With a nother day in thee teens winter is sure rolling and going to April so no 80′s in March…STAY TUNED ON A BILLZARD BILL A COMING NEXT WEEK…INDYY…

    1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

      BRING IT! COLD and SNOW ROCKS!!!!!!!!

  31. Hugh says:

    No Sun, No happiness, Lonely, even sunrise 7:53 doesn’t make it. Where’s spring, birds, flowers, better for wheelchairs…

    1. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

      The sun just came out here. Looks beautiful on the fresh snow.

    2. GunLakeDeb says:

      Winter is not “ADA-friendly” :-(

      Keeping reading Fixxxer’s posts – he knows how many days until spring!

  32. INDY says:

    Grand Rapids will have a normal winter this year crazzy how late it has started we just need 18 inches 2 be normal we will get more the half of that this week and nex week we will go over avg…Going to get cold tonight would not be surprise to see some —— East of Grand Rapids ..get outside and play snowman are happy!!! stay tuned ..INDYY..

  33. Swatz_Zoo(Cedar Springs) says:

    I’ll be very interested in the JEM, IWS, and RDB model to see who is dead on. I do hope for a snow day before my husband flies back in a couple weeks.

    1. Jack says:

      ********* JEM Model******* UPDATE********** SNOW DAY****** THURSDAY or FRIDAY******* JUST FOR U**********************SWAT~ZOO!!!!!! ********** STAY CUEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD**********************. ;-)

  34. big Daddy BC says:

    Hey, Indy. This is anything but average. It’s more freaky weirdness as odd late season lake enhanced snow makes up for a significant lack of synoptic events on the west side. Speaking of strange weather, have a look at what’s cooking down under.

    January shatters Australian heat records

    Australia’s summer’s looking like ours last year.

    1. michael g (SE GR) says:

      Thanks for the old news update Kev. In case you missed it, it’s COLD down under now!!

      1. big Daddy BC says:

        One degree below the normal high is unusually cold? Sounds like you should go to work for WOOD.

        1. Robert (Plainwell) says:

          read it again bDbc 2 degrees or more during the day and at least 4 at night.

        2. Bill Steffen says:

          The last 5 days in G.R. have been 9.4 degrees cooler than average.

    2. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

      Looks like Sydney suffered a few days with highs in the low to mid 70′s and lows in the mid to upper 50′s and the average for he 4 days was around 64 poor Sydney.

      1. Bill Steffen says:

        Sydney was +4.6 degrees warmer than average in January. They only had 3 days all month that topped 90 degrees (116, 109, 97). If you’d like to go by the hottest day, I point you to this: 24 of the 50 U.S. states STILL have their hottest temperatures from the 1930s and only one from the 2000s. I checked around Australia and for January…Melbourne (south coast) was +2.8 above average, Perth (west coast) was 3.8 degrees above average and Darwin (north) was +1.7.

        Compare that to these January departures: Flagstaff AZ -6.0 deg. below average, Burns OR -8.7 deg. cooler than average, Salt Lake City -10.1 deg. cooler than average, Elko NV -11.0 deg. below average and Boise ID -11.7 below average.

      2. big Daddy BC says:

        Why would anyone compare the record heat in Australia to winter temps in Arizona. Is that the kind of cutting edge science you used to forecast for a colder than average winter?

        1. Bill Steffen says:

          Either you focus on the one or two days of record heat in Australia (in which case, you’d have to look at (and except) the all-time state records in the U.S. which are much more in the past (24 states with all-time record highs from the 1930s) than in the present….or…you look at longer term temperatures. In the longer term, the cold in the Western U.S. in January was measurably more significant that the monthly deviation from average in Australia.

  35. DF (SE Mich) says:

    A little over 3″ of snow today at the home. I have 6.5″ on the ground, nice. More tomorrow.

  36. Todd In Nunica says:

    I love THIS comment from NWS…to be honest this constant “winter weather advisory’s” get old real fast, me personally, I think we should only have any type of advisory if its over 5-6″ at ANY time of the winter….just say its gonna snow, and about how much, if people are too dumb and say “well I didnt see an advisory so I thought it was safe to go out” Then natural selection will handle it….(sorry but really….. to say NOW after so many advisory’s…that they are not now needed,…..BUT needed before this time is just funny to me)


    1. Todd In Nunica says:

      Its michigan…it snows….deal with it!!!!! Stop with the advisory’s every day!!!!!!!….lol

    2. 1 3 inch snowfall all season, never more than 3.5 inches deep, total of 11.5 inches for the season here, may they can be kind and have a Winter Weather Advisory just for us snow poor folk in Breckentucky, Gratiot County Michigan. No nearby lakes, no hills, no good rivers, no snow. Just brown grass, ok we got an inch today woohoo and windmills everywhere, oh by the way all the power from the over 200 plus windmills with more on the way goes down state at over 50% loss in transmition. Not a drop is used in our area, other than for the blinking lights on top.

      1. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

        You should see all of the windmills just north of us 30 just east of Fort Wayne,(they are in Ohio)I wonder how many they have down there?

        1. Kevin(Rockford) says:

          how many were actually turning?

        2. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

          Looked like almost all of them were turning.

  37. michael g (SE GR) says:

    Hey Brad, I’m anxious to get out with my new golf clubs. Can you fill me in on which days I can expect to be in the 70′s this month so I can make a tee time? Thanks in advance!

    1. Robert (Plainwell) says:

      wait isn’t this weather the new normal?

    2. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

      Nothing against the good old ground hog but I have a feeling that if spring is just around the corner that the blocks may be very long and the corner may be a long ways down the street. So it may be a while before you can bring out those new clubs (IMO)

      1. Bill Steffen says:

        We’re into week one of the groundhog’s 6 weeks…not what you’d call springlike in either Michigan or Pennsylvania.

    3. big Daddy BC says:

      A few weeks of actual cold and michael gets his confidence back! Enjoy the snow, Dill Weed. It won’t last.

      1. Robert (Plainwell) says:

        what is your forecast? also what is your feeling as more guys from your side are more skeptical of early projections of runaway global warming. Just wait until the AMO starts its down turn.

      2. Bill Steffen says:

        From NPR:

        If you have an open mind, you will question the hype and hyperbole of the climate profiteers.

        1. Robert (Plainwell) says:

          Hi Bill that is a good read. Thanks.

    4. Brad says:

      Michael, glad you’re interested in my prediction after my stunning prognostication of last week’s wild weather. I’m seeing 70ish around February 20, but my model is right around 50-50 on that happening, give or take ten points. I’ll let you know if anything changes.

  38. arcturus says:

    Fox says 45 for Sunday, WOOD 36. Now there’s a close consensus. Is there a cold bias at WOOD or a warm one at Fox? My guess is the former.

    1. INDY says:

      Come again??? INDYY..

      1. Kevin(Rockford) says:

        Pretty sure Fox uses a Magic 8 Ball for their forecast.

      2. big Daddy BC says:

        When was the last time Bill Steffen erred on the hot side?

        1. Brad says:

          He did once say that Ann Coulter is a “stunner.” ;-)

    2. DF (SE Mich) says:

      The GR NWS has 38 for Sunday. Must be a conspiracy.

  39. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    Get Ready – a lot on SNOW coming on Tuesday afternoon! We have at least 5 weeks of WINTER weather to go. COLD and SNOW rules! This has been a GREAT stretch of winter weather. Temps in the teens and 20′s with plenty of SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  40. SS (Pwell Area) says:

    I think this is the first day in over a week I haven’t gotten a weather text from Wood!!! LOL!!! It seemed like I was getting one like 3 times a day with the changing of the advisories and what not…

    1. Bill Steffen says:

      The snow is adding up. Muskegon is up to 52.1″ for the winter and Grand Rapids is at 35.3″ now.

      1. SS (Pwell Area) says:

        Cleared off the deck on Saturday afternoon…rough estimate from then to this morning about 5 inches!!!

        Bill…appreciate the texts!!!

  41. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    Hey it must be the “new normal” SNOW on Tuesday and Thursday, then a brief warm up and then 5 solid weeks of WINTER weather!! ROCK ON!!!

    1. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

      While I would LOVE 5 straight weeks of winter, the odds of not having some warm periods in there are pretty slim. If we want a snowpack that will last in to March, we need some synoptic storms with higher moisture content snow. The lake effect fluff with low moisture content struggles to last. Perhaps Thursday will be our first real synoptic snow of the season…

      1. Jack says:

        Yes, Matt !! Thursday it IS !!!!

    2. Jack says:

      Rocky, Speaking of “new normal ” ……… Here is the Real NORMAL CUE: Normal – YouTube

      ► 3:26► 3:26
      Lol, Enjoy…

  42. DF (SE Mich) says:

    Detroit is now 4″ above normal snowfall so far this season, more on the way. GR is getting much closer to average.

    1. fixxxer says:

      Where? I was just in macomb on friday and they had no snow.

      1. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

        They got snow throughout the weekend.

      2. DF (SE Mich) says:

        You must have read wrong, I wrote Detroit, the official weather location, in a different county…

        I have 6.5″ on the ground in A2.

  43. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

    Lol..never mind….Thursday storm looks WEAK now on the NAM. I guess we will have to continue relying on lake effect….

  44. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

    I just got in from another snowmobile ride, and boy was it foggy out! Sometimes it was so foggy I had maybe 20 feet of visibility. And with such cold temperatures, and wind chills around -30° while on the snowmobile the fog froze to everything of the snowmobile and myself.

    Here is a pic of my frosty helmet!

    1. Jack says:

      nice Travis !! No one Could call Ya , A HOT HEAD !! 4 Sure….. LOLLOL. ;-)

    2. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

      Haha. I like that, that’s funny!

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