February 13th, 2013 at 2:37 am by under Bill's Blog, Weather

    You have to click the pic to enlarge.  It’s a picture sent to me by LeAnne DeGlow.  The sun is making the shape of a heart thru the trees.  I thought it kind of fit Valentine’s Day.  This will be a dry day with a little sunshine and temperatures up to the upper 30s (low 40s in areas south and southeast without snow on the ground).  Winds will be SW 5-15.  Tomorrow will be breezy with a chance of a light mix.  High temps. again in the upper 30s to near 40 occur in the early afternoon with falling temps. in the late PM.   Snow showers are likely from Thurs. night to Saturday with most areas seeing just light accumulations of an inch or two.  A little more snow is likely in those areas favored with a NW wind.  One model prints out around 4″ in the snow areas of Allegan Co.  It’ll be cool, we may not get out of the low 20s on Sat.  Monday won’t be quite as cool, but another shot of cold air arrives with some snow Monday night/Tues.  We drop to -21.2C at 850mb (not quite a mile above ground), so it’s a pretty good shot of cold air and that will likely keep lake-effect snow showers going Tues. and Weds.  Thru. 2/12, G.R. is 4 deg. cooler than avg. for Feb.  Here’s NAM model snowfall and GFS forecast snowfall.

109 Responses to “Wednesday”

  1. Skot says:

    Beautiful picture.

  2. Jim S.(Saugatuck Twp) says:

    Nws really downplaying the lake effect now. Also, models no longer giving us a snowstorm early next week, and have backed off on the storm Tom Skilling was talking about the last couple of days.

    1. arcturus says:

      Don’t tell Rocky, he’ll go off the deep end.

      1. fixxxer says:

        his name is rj and i don’t know why you guys pay attention to him.

        1. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

          Why do you pay attention to him?

      2. Rocky (Rockford) says:

        Nice one fixxxer. Go back under your ROCK and hibernate!!

  3. BIGFOOT says:


  4. Travis (Oakland County) says:

    Zzzzz… looks like next week may be more fun for us than this week at least! Here’s NWS Detroit this morning:

    Early next week and beyond will be interesting to say the least as the country comes under the influence of a progressive high amplitude pattern that will produce periodic oscillations between above/below normal temps and 2 or 3 significant baroclinic waves, any of which will pose a reasonable threat to bring accumulating snowfall to the Great Lakes region.

  5. Tim says:

    Anyone willing to to predict the snow amounts for this weekend in the Holland area. I know that they have been talking lake effect for NW wind areas?

    1. Jim S.(Saugatuck Twp) says:

      The models are only showing 2-4″….but my guess is closer to 5-6″ total through the weekend.

  6. Tim(Holland) says:

    Planning on leaving town for a couple of days, but don’t want to leave people hangin’, snow plowing wise.

  7. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

    Maybe reality has set in at the NWS office here in GR as stated above they have cut their hype on this weekend lake effect. It should be noted that it looks like the clipper may be more to our north as well and that is another reason for lower snow fall predictions. And then we have the Detroit NWS office looking at what may be a typical late winter/early spring pattern of a lot of ups and downs and chances of snow and or rain.. So my ideas are some snow and or rain the next few days and a chance of more of the same the next few weeks. With temps up and down as is generally expected this time of year (any time of year in our area)
    Its cloudy and 29° here (Walker) this AM

  8. jtwolters (Holland Southside) says:

    I’m really curious on what all you amazing weather people have to say about our climate warming. Is it really warming or is this just a cycle that we are in? A pattern? Are there predictions that we will have another early spring warm up this year? Seems like we are in a generally cold weather pattern right now, right? I would love to hear some of your comments on this.

    1. Cort S. says:

      Good questions, though we’re opening up a can of worms here which usually leads to mudslinging and counterproductive arguments (which involves people rudely dismissing the other side’s point of view and just cementing themselves within their own, not willing to budge).

      Let’s talk about cycles. The world is filled with them. There are natural daily cycles, intra-seasonal cycles, inter-seasonal cycles, annual cycles, multi-annual cycles, decadal cycles, multi-decadal cycles, and probably cycles on the century scale which we don’t realize, and also Milankovitch Cycles. All these cycles superimposed makes for a very complicated climate history. And each cycle affects different parts of the world in different ways.

      There are catastrophic natural events which can also change earth’s climate for a period of time. Think, a huge volcanic eruption, or an asteroid impact. There can also be slow-motion events involving changes in earth’s reflectiveness or atmospheric composition, like a glaciation period or the Great Oxygenation Event. Different molecules in the atmosphere absorb, emit, and transmit different wavelengths of light in different ways, so there are energy budget and climate implications there. Humans are changing the composition of earth’s atmosphere slightly by finding a bunch of stuff buried in the ground and burning it. Where everyone disagrees is to what extent this affects our climate. And there are a lot of reasons for this, because the atmosphere is so big and complicated and we’ve only just begun to understand it.

      And there’s one thing that complicates the science even more, and that is politics (ultimately driven by money). I wish it didn’t have to be, but money and politics affect virtually every other aspect of our life and planet, so it shouldn’t be surprising. But because politics is involved, this gives people all the more reason to draw lines in the sand, build and tear down straw men, conduct and accuse of corruption, etc. A scientist should avoid these practices, and ask questions for the sake of achieving greater understanding (like you did), and test the questions in an attempt to answer them, even if it involves disproving your own hypothesis. We’ve come a long way in the last 100 years in understanding our weather and climate system, but we have a long way to go.

      I’ll leave you with an analogy. The day-to-day weather is like rolling a pair of dice (these are really big dice with lots of possible combinations). Our climate is like putting weights on those dice in ways that make it more or less likely for certain results to happen. All those cycles are like different weights, which are continually shifting their positions around on the dice. Human climate change is just another weight on the dice. If the dice get rolled and come up as a big storm like Hurricane Sandy or the Super Tornado Outbreak of 2011, can we say that the climate change weights caused the dice to land the way they did? No. What the weights do are change the probability of those events to happen in any given year. But sometimes we don’t know exactly how heavy the weights are or exactly where on the dice those weights get placed, so that makes it more difficult for us to say how the probabilities change. And that’s why we argue.

      1. jtwolters (Holland Southside) says:

        WOW…thanks for that amazing answer, Cort. I can understand how this opens up a can of worms, although I didn’t intentionally mean to do that, so hopefully it doesn’t happen. I was just curious on what you guys all thought. I appreciate the way that you answered the question, though. Appreciated the analogy of the dice.

        1. Cort S. says:

          It’s good to ask questions. You’re doing the right thing by trying to understand more. Feel free any time to ask questions, about weather or climate (though I am more of a weather guy, myself). Hopefully Bill or I or someone else here can help you make sense of it.

      2. KevinS (Saugatuck) says:

        Nice Cort…well put

      1. Bill Steffen says:

        Love the picture of Al Gore at the start of Johan’s video. Nice to see that he gets his information from such credible sources.

        Hey, did you see Hansen got arrested AGAIN today! With that climate heavyweight Darryl Hannah! He and his fellow climate profiteers chained themselves to a chain-link White House fence. Brings to mind this song:

      2. big Daddy BC says:

        You must not be familiar with TED. Why am I not surprised. Al Gore had nothing to do with Rockstrom’s presentation. He just happens to be a person that has spoken at these conferences. Republicans speak there too. Turn FOX NEWS off and get some perspective, nutjob.

      3. Bill Steffen says:

        Even James “handcuffs” Hansen is admitting the obvious!

        The five-year mean global temperature has been flat for the last decade… – James Hansen et al.

        Even his own numbers show that:

        Put down the Little Red Book and admit the obvious.

        1. big Daddy BC says:

          Here’s another great one. Time lapse photography tells a very different story from the one you tell, Bill.

        2. Bill Steffen says:

          Back off of “Ted” and look at the big picture, not just a special interest shill.

          Fact is…global temperatures have leveled off. Even Hansen admits it. Phil Jones admits it.

          But according to increasing numbers of serious climate scientists, it does suggest that the computer models that have for years been predicting imminent doom, such as those used by the Met Office and the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, are flawed, and that the climate is far more complex than the models assert.

          ‘The new data confirms the existence of a pause in global warming,’ Professor Judith Curry, chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Science at America’s Georgia Tech university, told me yesterday.

          Read more:–chart-prove-it.html#ixzz2Kq1pylOJ
          Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

          CO2 emissions are at a 20-year low in the U.S. and falling:

          Time for you to get off the “Default Factory Setting”:

        3. big Daddy BC says:

          Actually, that’s totally false. There’s no disagreement among scientists about whether or not the Earth is warming or if CO2 is responsible. That’s a denier lie. Watch some of the experts I’ve linked. They all agree that we’re in an environmental crisis. NASA agrees, NOAA agrees, the Catholic Church agrees, the EPA agrees, the IPCC agrees, and even our republican governor agrees. That, my friend, is why I can so easily find support among the educated, professional, and accredited while you must resort to blogs and newspapers.

        4. Bill Steffen says:

          The Earth has cooled a little from the 1940s thru the 1970s, it warmed from the early 1980s to 2002 and it’s been steady since then. Even HANSEN admits the warming has stopped!

          “The five-year mean global temperature has been flat for the last decade…” – James Hansen et al.

          CO2 emissions in the U.S. are falling and at a 20-year low:

          Say “NO!!” to “skyrocketing” utility rates and “NO!!” to $9 a gallon “European level” gasoline prices.

        5. big Daddy BC says:

          It’s great that CO2 emissions aren’t growing as quickly as they once were, but we’re still the number one polluting nation on Earth. Hansen has quite a bit to say. Let’s listen to the words from his own lips. It’s hardly comforting to think that temps have leveled off when we’re in the hottest decade since record keeping began. Last summer was the hottest summer the northern hemisphere has on record. Last July was the hottest month on record. Your point about temps leveling off is illogical. It’s not about temps. It’s about energy. It’s about lows. It’s about feedback mechanisms. It’s about biogeography. Read a periodical now and then.

        6. Bill Steffen says:

          CO2 emissions in the U.S. AREN’T GROWING…they’re FALLING! Read: FALLING…lowest in 20-years!!!

          We are NOT the #1 most polluting nation on Earth: That article is from 2008, so it shows how far behind the times your talking points are. As far as greenhouse gases, China was 29% ahead of us in 2008: and I’ll bet it’s closer to 35% today.

          Hansen ADMITS that temperatures have leveled off. READ:

          “The five-year mean global temperature has been flat for the last decade…” – James Hansen et al.

          When he says “flat for the last decade” – he means that global temperatures have leveled off!

        7. big Daddy BC says:

          Of course China wins overall, but what we’re right behind them. Per Capita, however, we’re three times higher and you know well that’s what I was talking about. I’m trying to figure out how any of this could be a talking point, but it’s something you say regularly. Must be a regular part of your vernacular. You sure are a political little weatherman.

        8. Bill Steffen says:

          China wins because they don’t tolerate nonsense from climate profiteers like you. They also don’t tolerate the bullying of union goons like the SEIU guys that were arrested in Lansing. Remember when they destroyed the catering equipment of Clint Tarver? The union bullies used the cruelest racial slurs while they destroyed his equipment. Nope, they don’t tolerate that in China

        1. Bill Steffen says:

          “The five-year mean global temperature has been flat for the last decade…” – James Hansen et al.

        2. big Daddy BC says:

          Watch the video and see what Hansen really has to say.

        3. Bill Steffen says:

          Hansen has now been arrested 3 times! I generally don’t pay attention to those who have a habit of breaking the law.

          Your video is older than this comment:

          “The five-year mean global temperature has been flat for the last decade…” – James Hansen et al.

          Arctic ice almost back to the 2000s average:

          Antarctic ice at an all-time February record extent:

        4. big Daddy BC says:

          Martin Luther King Jr. was arrested, so was Gandhi, Nelson Mandela, and Jesus Christ, a rather impressive line up of anti establishment law breakers. Unfortunately, standing up to the ‘man’ for what’s right often results in imprisonment.

        5. Bill Steffen says:

          HA! Tell us bigD – have you been arrested? Any outstanding warrants? Illegal server, maybe? Using a school computer for personal purposes?

          Hansen likes hanging out with yesterday’s actresses!

          Again…Carbon Dioxide emissions in the U.S. are FALLING:

          Global temperatures have leveled off: “The five-year mean global temperature has been flat for the last decade…” – James Hansen et al.

          And the poor and middle class don’t need your “skyrocketing” utility rates and $9 a gallon European level gasoline prices!

        6. big Daddy BC says:

          Yes, Bill. There’s a warrant out for my arrest for using a school computer for personal business. That happened right after I lost my job as a programmer, which was just before my stint as a climate profiteer and union boss. Idiot.

          Point is, Hansen’s standing up for what he believes in. He’s protesting and using his status to call attention to something the government’s been sweeping under the rug for decades. Lots of good people protest. We do live in the USA, Comrade. In good old Cuba, they don’t allow things like protestors. China hates them too. You must be a communist? Love it or leave it!

        7. Bill Steffen says:

          Hansen is admitting the obvious. You look silly when you don’t admit what’s plain to a 5th grader…kind of like telling us the world is flat…once more…

          Carbon Dioxide emissions in the U.S. are FALLING and are at the lowest level in 20 years:

          Global temperatures have leveled off:

          “The five-year mean global temperature has been flat for the last decade…” – James Hansen et al.

          Your plan to force “skyrocketing” utility rates on the lower and middle class and to make hard-working families pay “European level” $9 a gallon gasoline is

          1) Unnecessary based on the facts
          2) Would do NOTHING to budge global temperature
          3) Would be a terrible burden on the poor, the middle class, the elderly, minorities, those on fixed income, those with special needs and children

        8. big Daddy BC says:

          Why do you continually lie about utility rates? I’ve never suggested raising the cost of anything. It’s your governor, Snyder, who just recently unveiled his plan to raise taxes on gasoline in Michigan to cover the cost of road repair. It seems his road repair pot is a bit small after granting billions in tax relief to the billionaires and corporations in Michigan. Once again, we the people get stuck with the bill!!

        9. Bill Steffen says:

          Skyrocketing utility rates: that’s “The Plan” !!!

  9. fixxxer says:

    what a miserable winter this year.

    1. Matt (Spring Lake) says:


      Had to make up for the miserable spring we had November through mid January….seasons don’t have order now.

    2. haanstar says:

      I agree, we need more snow and cold

    3. Mark (East Lansing) says:

      Miserable? Dr. Freud wants to know if you’re truly referring to winter. A slip perhaps?

  10. Jim S.(Saugatuck Twp) says:

    12Z GFS is even more paltry with the lake effect this weekend. The next storm passes to our SE early next week, and the big storm for later next week is on according to this model run. It’s been off and on and is still 9 days out, so not much stock in it right now. This is the storm Tom Skilling discussed yesterday.

    1. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

      Not really that much less for this weekend, and the NAM looks better.

      Although it does look like we have returned to the same annoying pattern of the first half of winter. Storms to the southeast…transient cold air…rumors of big systems…..

      1. Jim S.(Saugatuck Twp) says:

        Well…at least it is something to watch. If the 12Z GFS was to actually verify, we would be getting 12+” with that storm late next week. Big if.

  11. Michael (Berrien county) says:

    NAM giving us at least 6-8 inches over the next few days. BURYIN’ BERRIEN BABY!!!! Bring it on!!!!!!

    1. Jim S.(Saugatuck Twp) says:

      Here is the 12Z run. Still hits Berrien the hardest…backed off a bit on total accumulations.

        1. Michael (Berrien county) says:

          GFS always does a very poor job though with predicting lake effect… usually underplays it. Better to rely on the NAM.

      1. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

        Yeah, it looks almost more northerly than NW flow.

  12. Mike Geukes says:

    Love that sunshine that was predicted for Grand Rapids. Still waiting for the Partly Sunny skies
    Sunny in South Haven, Kalamazoo, Benton Harbor, Battle Creek

    Latest Satellite:

    1. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

      It is still pretty overcast here…but getting a little brighter through the clouds. I am strange, as I am glad itis not out fully, as I want the snow to stick around. We have A glacier of about 6 to 8 inches still around here.

      The 12Z GFS looks nice for snow lovers. Highs in the 20s for much of the rest of the month. Snow this weekend, some on Tues/Wed. and then a HUGE storm at the end of the week. Too bad the GFS is bipolar…

      1. Cort S. says:

        You’re so close! I have sun and blue skies in Holland. It’s quite nice.

        1. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

          :) yeah, from looking at cams, it looks like Allendale is sunny too. Still pretty overcast with an occasional peek of sun here.

      2. Mike Geukes says:

        The sun is out finally, I suffer from Seasonal affective disorder. Seeing sunshine is important to me.

        1. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

          Yeah, I do too. Bright white snow on the ground is more effective for me than brown everywhere with sun. I feel blah in hot sun…maybe I am a vampire.

          Bed, Bath, and Beyond has really nice sun lamps that give off REAL light…not fluorescent light…maybe you could look at those?

        2. Rumrunner says:

          Dude, pounding the vitamin D will help with that.

  13. Wow I hope this Graphic from Tom Skilling pans out, were in the hot spot….yes I know its a week out..

    1. ~Sherry~(Comstock Park) says:

      Looks good to me!!

    2. Jim S.(Saugatuck Twp) says:

      Interesting…and he states it is off the 06Z GFS. The 12Z GFS shows even more snow.

      1. Skot says:

        Bah… Nothing but wishful thinking. Probably rain for three days.

    3. Jim S.(Saugatuck Twp) says:

      The 12Z Canadian model shows this as a big rain maker for us.

      1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

        Forget the rain. This will 100% SNOW for the GR area! Bring it!

        1. Brad (Lawrence) says:

          Your sooooo predictable.

  14. Travis (Oakland County) says:

    Sun just popped out here. Supposed to get to 43 tomorrow.

    Tuesday still looking like maybe some snow!

  15. bnoppe(Albion) says:

    I put 0 stock in any model until we are within atleast 96 hours(4days)
    IT is fun to play pretend until something happens

    1. Unfortunately, 90% of people who read that comment will not change their opinion.

  16. Slimjim says:

    The sun is out here and the temp has jumped up to 40. So the snow is melting nice and slow and all the left over ice has left my drive was and the road has turned to slush with a good amount of water that will freeze after sun set.

  17. Travis (Oakland County) says:

    I love looking at the satellite on clear winter days. Basically no snow on the ground in Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, and southern Michigan… until you get by the lake. You guys are lucky!

    1. SS (Pwell Area) says:

      Snow on the ground here…even with the sun shining all day!!!

      1. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

        How much snow did you get today? :P

  18. Jim S.(Saugatuck Twp) says:

    And now Saturday sounds more interesting for lake effect.


    1. SBPortage002 says:

      Interesting read, being in the area I will have keep with the latest to see what happens. Sunshine all day today here, nice break until more precipitation arrives. Always ready for whatever Michigan weather throws at me.

    2. Jim S.(Saugatuck Twp) says:

      What is funny is you read this…then I read the point forecast which states, “less than one half inch possible.”

      1. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

        Yeah, I chuckled and rolled my eyes when I saw that. What a joke.

  19. Barry in Zeeland says:

    You know winters about over when it’s time for the GR Boat show! Heading there tonight to pick out my new seadoo, anyone else going to be there?

  20. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    It is definitely too warm today. I see a lot of COLD and SNOW in our future. The CPC outlook shows a lot of precip for our area in the 6 to 14 day outlook! We will be seeing a lot of SNOW next week!! FANTASTIC!!

    1. Travis (Oakland County) says:

      Today’s CPC update shows average temps for all of Michigan from Feb 19th through the end of the month. Mid to upper 30′s, but I’m sure there will be the usual ups and downs.

      1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

        Well let’s see – the average temperature range for GR for next week is from 20 degrees for a low temp to 34 or 35 degrees for a high temp. This will end up as TON of SNOW!! ROCK N ROLL is here to stay!

  21. BIGFOOT says:


    1. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

      Oh yay, somebody else who leaves the caps lock on and writes run-on sentences. Hopefully “Bigfoot” moves somewhere with a school.

    2. Rocky (Rockford) says:


  22. Brad (Lawrence) says:

    Love the sun. Temp in my truck was reading 44 on the way home. Got home and checked my gauge in the backyard…also showed 44. I was kinda surprised with all the snow on the ground here still. Beautiful day, keep the snow melting. Spring and 50 degree temps will be here in 2 weeks. maybe 60 the second week of March, keeping my fingers crossed.

    1. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

      We stayed in the mid 30s in this area under clouds.

      By he way everybody, the avg. high in Muskegon is only 33, so it is not like “spring arrives tomorrow”.

  23. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    We will have COLD and SNOW thru mid March!! Keep it coming!

  24. BIGFOOT says:


    1. Jack says:

      Bigfoot…..If you are Looking for Snow…Go 2 Theeee YARD of BRICKS. ( wink, wink ) Indy, has Plenty There !!! SPRITES 2 !! ;-) . Lollolo

      1. BIGFOOT says:


        1. Jack says:

          Rofl…See at the YOB,This Summer !, P.S. I got some mighty fine SEEDS, 4 planting in THEEEE. SWAMP.. “. ;-)

  25. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    Both the 18Z GFS and 18Z RDB model still show BIG SNOWSTORM next week Thursday night and Friday!!

    1. Jack says:

      If that Happens it will just be a PRECURSOR, To the BIG SNOWSTORM, The JEM MODEL shows 4 The LAST 7 days of FEBUARY”!! Stay CUED::::::::::::::::::: ;-)

      1. Rocky (Rockford) says:


    1. Jack says:

      Yup, I hear ya Indy. If this Happens on 2/ 22 or There After The OLE JEM MODEL, Will Have another ” bullseye ” notch In It’s Prediction BELT.. 2 FER 2…. Thank- You !, loll …. Stay CUED !!!! Bills Blogggggggggg… U2 INDY… ;-)

      1. Matt in New Era says:

        Holy cow that will be a mess!!!!!! If it doesn’t shift north!!!

    1. Bill Steffen says:

      Global Ice Extent Anomaly 8,500 Manhattans ABOVE AVERAGE! – And Increasing

    2. big Daddy BC says:

      Surface area is not volume. Sea ice does not replace melted glaciers and does nothing for rising oceans.

      Watch the time lapse photography in the link above. It tells a very different story from the one you ignorantly portray.

      1. Bill Steffen says:

        Give it up, climate profiteer. The middle class doesn’t buy the phony computer models…they don’t believe the Antarctic icecap is melting from underneath… PIOMAS admitted they were 28% off! They’ll have to correct again as reality comes to bite!

        Real data shows global temperatures have leveled off: “The five-year mean global temperature has been flat for the last decade…” – James Hansen et al.

        and that CO2 emissions are at a 20-year low in the U.S. and falling:

      2. big Daddy BC says:

        I get it. Scientists are wrong. They’re all in cahoots and they all have climate profiteering on the brain. Just makes me wonder why they didn’t go into banking, meteorology, or politics to get rich. LOL I think the biggest problem you have is ignorance. The kind of conspiracy you continually suggest is literally impossible. Have a look at this scientist and all that goes into the work she does.

        1. Bill Steffen says:

          Even the most rabid of climate profiteers are giving up! Did you read Hansen:

          Global temperatures have leveled off: “The five-year mean global temperature has been flat for the last decade…” – James Hansen et al.

          All you’ve got left is to link to a video from “Ted” who opens the video with a picture of the oil profiteer Al Gore!

        2. big Daddy BC says:

          How about this link:

          “Antarctica is losing ice mass while gaining ice extent. This is a confusing point to some. There are a few keys that can help us understand what this means in the context of global warming.

          Land ice is different than sea ice. Antarctica is losing ice as illustrated below in the ice mass chart from the GRACE satellite.”

          Or this:

        3. big Daddy BC says:

          Here’s another good one.

          “El Niño events can raise the average global temperature by a few tenths of a degree Fahrenheit for a year or two. Likewise, La Niña events can produce a comparable cooling effect. Neither of these short-lived cyclic phenomena explain the longer-term warming observed in the last century and especially in the last 30 to 40 years.”

          Here’s NASA:

          “September Arctic sea ice is now declining at a rate of 11.5 percent per decade, relative to the 1979 to 2000 average1. Arctic sea ice reaches its minimum each September. The graph above shows the average monthly Arctic sea ice extent in September from 1979 to 2010, derived from satellite observations. The September 2010 extent was the third lowest in the satellite record.”

        4. Bill Steffen says:

          Antarctic ice extent has set a historic maximum: and

          Arctic ice higher than now than on any Feb. 16 over the past 9 years:

          Here’s global temperatures for the past decade from NASA:

          Global temperatures have leveled off and even the most rabid of climate profiteers, James Hansen has been forced to admit the obvious:

          The five-year mean global temperature has been flat for the last decade…” – James Hansen et al.

  26. big Daddy BC says:

    Honestly, I don’t know how you look at yourself in the mirror. These are the people you’re continually defending.

    “Greer’s guilty pleas on Monday to four counts of theft and a single count of money laundering ended the trial before it even started and ensured that some state GOP secrets will remain confidential, at least for the time-being.”


    1. Bill Steffen says:

      How can you justify the racial slurs that were directed at poor Clint Tarver? How can you justify the vandalism, the violence? How can you endanger children by preventing school districts from firing drunk teachers and teachers selling drugs on school grounds:

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