Lots of Snow

March 21st, 2013 at 3:50 am by under Bill's Blog, Weather

snowcover n. hemisphere one   snow cover u.s.  Click on the images to enlarge.   The map on the right is snow cover across North America.  On Wednesday, 29.3% of the U.S. had a snow cover of 1″ or more.  That was second to 2006 for most snow on the ground in the U.S. on March 20 over the last 10 years.  The average snow depth is a healthy 5.1″.  Northern Hemisphere snow cover for the period November through February was the 2nd highest since records began in the winter of 1966-67.  Northern Hemisphere snow cover has been above average for the last several years.  With the way this March is going in the U.S. and Europe, we could easily set a new record for snow cover for the period Nov. 1 to Mar. 31.  The latest 6-10 day and 8-14 day outlooks from the Climate Prediction Center certainly keep the cool pattern locked in for the next two weeks.  The low temperature before midnight for Weds. was 11 in G.R.  Grand Rapids is now 3.7 deg. below average for March and Kalamazoo is 4 degrees cooler than average for month.  This looks like it’ll mark the biggest turnaround from warm to cool (from year to year) that we have ever had in G.R.  We have had at least a trace of snow on 14 of 21 days in March.  We have had only five days this month with above average temperatures.  This has also been a cloudy winter.  Here’s the percent of sunshine by month with the average in ( ):  December:  18% (22%),  January 25% (29%), February 18% (39%), March 35% (46%).

The GFS now keeps the bulk of the snowstorm Sunday/Monday to our south.  The GFS (caribou) gives G.R. about 1/2″ of snow on Monday and 1.2″ for Kalamazoo (with a little mixed rain).  The European gives G.R.  a dusting of snow oday and a dusting next Tue. with 1/2 to 1″ next Weds.

114 Responses to “Lots of Snow”

  1. whatBillwantstosaybutcant says:

    Jack, your slipping.I wonder where BDBC, Brad, and all of the other honyocks are trolling?

    1. steelie says:

      Good Day,

      Indeed! Must be that pesky global warming.

      Steelie

    2. Jack says:

      Lol, wbwtsbc. Sleeping… Not……slipping . Stay Cued… ;-)

    3. big Daddy BC says:

      Still here. Just laughing.

      1. Bill Steffen says:

        Look out the window. Is that what a “global warming” disaster is supposed to look like! LOL

        1. Bill Steffen says:

          North America 0.575C cooler than average so far in March! http://models.weatherbell.com/climate/ncep_cfsr_noram_t2m_anom.png

          So far this year the globe is virtually at average temperature: http://models.weatherbell.com/climate/ncep_cfsr_t2m_anom.png Thru 3/20 it’s 0.092C warmer than average

          Antarctic ice continues at record extent…way above average and way above last year: http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/S_timeseries.png

          Arctic ice within one standard deviation of average: http://arctic-roos.org/observations/satellite-data/sea-ice/observation_images/ssmi1_ice_area.png

        2. big Daddy BC says:

          “Winter was warmer than average for all states east of the Rockies, with the largest departures from average along the East Coast. Florida, Delaware, and Vermont each had one of their ten warmest winters on record. Conversely, the Southwest was cooler than average, and near-average winter temperatures reported in the Northwest.
          The winter nationally-averaged precipitation total of 7.10 inches was 0.63 inch above the long-term average.”

          http://www.climate.gov/#climateWatch

          It was warmer AND wetter exactly as I predicted. I won yet another bet with you!!! LOL That’s two winter in a row! Can’t wait to see you in that I LOVE BIG DADDY t-shirt! ;)

        3. Bill Steffen says:

          Factor in March and the U.S. has had an average winter. The Northern Hemisphere had their 2nd snowiest Dec. 1 to Feb. 28 ever and it may be #1 when we factor in March. We’re about at record snow cover for the N. Hemisphere for March 21: http://climate.rutgers.edu/snowcover/chart_daily.php?ui_year=2013&ui_day=79&ui_set=0

        4. big Daddy BC says:

          Factor in March?! You LOSE. It’s plain and simple. How about April? May? When does winter end again??? LOL

        5. Bill Steffen says:

          It hasn’t ended yet! We’ve had snow on 14 of 22 days this month. The month is now more than 4 degrees colder than average. We’re not done with snow yet. As of today, North America is .724 deg. C COLDER than average for March 2013.

          Global, February was 0.001 deg. C. COLDER than average.

          Of course, everyone – including James Hansen will tell you that global temperatures have been steady for the past +10 years:

          “The five-year mean global temperature has been flat for the last decade…” – James Hansen et al.

        6. big Daddy BC says:

          I’m glad we’re not done with it. We need it, and frankly, I predicted above average precip along with warmer temps. I was right. You were wrong and lost another bet. Pay up.

          “Winter was warmer than average for all states east of the Rockies, with the largest departures from average along the East Coast. Florida, Delaware, and Vermont each had one of their ten warmest winters on record. Conversely, the Southwest was cooler than average, and near-average winter temperatures reported in the Northwest.
          The winter nationally-averaged precipitation total of 7.10 inches was 0.63 inch above the long-term average.”

          http://www.climate.gov/#climateWatch

        7. Bill Steffen says:

          Doesn’t sound like much of a drought if precipitation this winter was 0.63″ above average in the U.S.

          We were warmer than average in Dec. and Jan. and colder than average in Feb. and now in March. Europe’s winters have been trending colder: http://notalotofpeopleknowthat.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/image46.png

        8. big Daddy BC says:

          A rainy day in the desert doesn’t make it a rainforest.

        9. Robert (Plainwell) says:

          Slowly but surely people are waking up to the scam that is AGW.

          http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/telegraph-view/9949595/Too-much-green-energy-is-bad-for-Britain.html

        10. Robert (Plainwell) says:

          News paper clippings talking about extreme weather events dating back to the 19th century.

          http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/bad-weather/

  2. DF (SE Mich) says:

    18* below normal for GR yesterday, not bad. The low for GR today is already 13* at midnight.

  3. Dan says:

    More snow on the way! YES! We could approach a record setting month of March!!
    You know what will be great? When we finally get a nice warm up, it’ll be much appreciated because of how the Winter is continuing to hang on!!!

    1. fixxxer says:

      so now your telling me your the biggest winter nut on here next to rj? why in the world would you want it to continue to snow right into april dan? your in the minority on here as i think most of the blog is ready for warm weather, sunshine and a few severe storms.

  4. kevin. w says:

    This will be the year we go from spring possibly right into a hot summer. This type of pattern with alot of blocking tends to go in that direction.

    1. Nathan says:

      Yea, don’t let this cold pattern trick you, heat and severe weather will be here soon…

    2. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

      Its hard to say. This summer could be warm but I find it hard to beleive it will be as warm as last summer. My feeling is this summer will be cooler then average and maybe dryer then average. But time will tell.
      SlimJim

      1. fixxxer says:

        we don’t need cooler than average but i agree it won’t be anywhere near as hot as last year.

        1. big Daddy BC says:

          Last year was the hottest summer on record. Kind of a safe bet, fix.

        2. Bill Steffen says:

          Just about balanced out this: http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/20090810_julystats.html (6 states with all time record cold)

          24 of 50 states STILL have their hottest temperatures from the 1930s after more than 75 years: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._state_temperature_extremes

        3. big Daddy BC says:

          It’s those extreme swings that change the climate. Right on.

        4. Bill Steffen says:

          We’ve had “extremes” in the past and we’ll have them in the future. Bottom line is that carbon dioxide emissions in the U.S. are GOING DOWN: http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/08/in-a-surprise-co2-emissions-hit-20-year-low/1

          And global temperatures have STOPPED WARMING:

          “The five-year mean global temperature has been flat for the last decade…” – James Hansen et al.

          https://twitter.com/BigJoeBastardi/status/314205289421361153/photo/1

          http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs_v3/Fig.C.gif

        5. big Daddy BC says:

          It’s going down in the US but not worldwide. Part of that has to do with the unusually warm winter we’ve had…less heat needed for our homes. I guess that’s an up side.

          “Based on NOAA’s Residential Energy Demand Temperature Index, the contiguous U.S. temperature-related energy demand was less than half the 1895-2012 period of record average during winter. This was the 14th smallest such value on record.”

          http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/national/2013/2

        6. Bill Steffen says:

          If it’s going down in the U.S. and way up in China…then GO TAX CHINA – make their utility rates “skyrocket” and force $9 a gallon “European level” gasoline prices on them. Maybe then we can get some manufacturing jobs back in the U.S. If you factor in March, the U.S. has had average temperatures from Dec. 1 on.

          Go look at your heating bill and see if “U.S. temperature-related energy demand was less than half the 1895-2012 period of record average during winter.” That’s nonsense.

        7. big Daddy BC says:

          No one wants to tax you but Rick Snyder you paranoid old man.

        8. Bill Steffen says:

          You leftists just pushed through a 2% payroll tax on the lower and middle class (so much for those of you making under 250 not getting taxed). The Obamacare taxes are kicking in. Even you dog is getting a big tax increase! http://miami.cbslocal.com/2013/03/11/obamacare-may-bite-you-at-the-vets-office/

          The U.S. still has the highest corporate taxes of any country in the world: “At 35%, the United States has the highest nominal corporate tax in any of the world’s developed economies.” (from Wikipedia)

          http://money.cnn.com/2012/03/27/pf/taxes/corporate-taxes/index.htm

        9. big Daddy BC says:

          Isn’t it your man, the republican ‘nerd,’ Governor Snyder, that’s trying raise taxes on gas, vehicle registration, and services?? You’re a hypocrite.

        10. Bill Steffen says:

          Hardly – I don’t favor a tax increase, but I do favor stiff fines for thugs who beat up poor, defenseless hot dog vendors: http://dailycaller.com/2012/12/13/clint-tarver-lansings-hot-dog-guy-describes-union-goons-destroying-his-property-and-calling-him-racial-epithets/

        11. big Daddy BC says:

          So now you don’t support Snyder? How quickly you turn.

        12. Bill Steffen says:

          It depends on the issue. I know that’s hard for a special-interest shill like you to understand. How can you support this:

          “The Bay City Public Schools teachers contract would allow teachers to come to school under the influence of alcohol five times before being fired, three strikes under the influence of drugs and two if teachers are caught selling drugs. The language has been in the contract since 1997.” from MLive: http://www.mlive.com/news/bay-city/index.ssf/2012/10/bay_city_teachers_union_gave_4.html

    3. fixxxer says:

      hope your right kevin.

  5. jeff says:

    is all of this late season snow going to have an impact on thunderstorm activity this summer?

  6. Daniel (Denver, CO) says:

    With the amount of snow cover in Canada especially compared to how dry it was last year, I’m not convinced it will warm up that fast. Until the AO/NAO go into neutral or positive phase, the snow cover in the north will continue to act as a source of cold. Even with the late March sun angle, we’ve clearly seen how low the temperatures can go.

    1. fixxxer says:

      i just find it hard to believe cananda is cold like this all the time.

  7. DF (SE Mich) says:

    East Michigan season snowfall update through March so far:

    Detroit: +6.2″
    Flint: -3.2″
    Saginaw: +3.4″

    Both Detroit and Saginaw will finish above average for the winter.

  8. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

    Its cloudy with a few flurries here and a temp of 22° and it looks more like January outside instead of the first full day of spring! with a good 3 to 3.5″ of snow on the ground. Looks at the web cam from Munising it looks like they got a good bit of snow overnight and some good drifting as well. While a good amount of our snow will be gone when the sun comes out and we get our temps above freezing the snow to our north will be with them for some time to come. In fact I would think our parking lot snow piles will be with us for some time to come as well…Still not sign of a real warm up….and the updated CPC long range guess should be out sometime today…looking to see how they handle the spring time guess!!
    SlimJim

    1. Ned S. (Now in South Holland) says:

      Slim, I wouldn’t be surprised to see the parking lot piles last until May.

        1. Ned S. (Now in South Holland) says:

          I’d just as soon see the snow go away now. I’m ready for warmer temps. too.

    2. GunLakeDeb says:

      If we DO get a freak warm, moist ridge coming up from the Gulf – that cold air from the north will create mayhem when the two collide :-( I hope I’m nowhere near THAT battleground (if it happens). Thank God there’s a few more ingredients needed besides hot and cold, before one can “cook up” a tornado.

  9. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

    BTW one year ago today the high was 87 and the low was 61 and on the 22 of March last year the high was 85° \
    SlimJim

    1. DF (SE Mich) says:

      The high will be around 30° away from the low last year =)

  10. michael g (SE GR) says:

    Score card for the last 60 days in GR, 2.4* below normal, 55″ of snow. #newnormal
    #justlikelastyear

    1. Yup (Grandville) says:

      The hash tags have found their way here….. :/

    2. fixxxer says:

      you following joe.b on twitter mike?

  11. INDY says:

    So glad Travis gave up on telling us how warm we are going to get for the last 3 months still below normal and snow on the ground!!! No real sighns of warm just yet just the facts!!! Stay tuned INDYY…

    1. fixxxer says:

      whats your deal with travis indy?

  12. Craig (Holland North Sider) says:

    So glad to see that Monday storm now pushed far to our south. Might not be warming up much but we at least avoided the snow.

    1. Jim S.(Saugatuck Twp) says:

      Monday’s storm is way south now…even Northern Indiana will be spared. Unfortunately, that just means the colder weather has a stronger hold. Tired of it….no sign of spring yet.

    2. fixxxer says:

      yeah the temps look to run below average right into april at this point.

  13. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

    Well I’ve picked up another 0.5″ since midnight here. That gives me a season total of…100.1″! Simple incredible since I had right over 8″ total on January 19th.

    1. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

      Also, Grand Marais’ groomer Facebook page is reporting 29.2″ of new snow since Monday with a current snow depth of 62″!

    2. GunLakeDeb says:

      LOL!! Basically – you’ve received 50″/month! Imagine if it had actually started snowing in November ;-)

      1. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

        I know, they had a very slow start through mid January. And from the reports I’m reading the average snowfall since Monday for the western U.P. is 28″!

      2. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

        Oops, I read that wrong. Yes, it has been snowing like gangbusters since January 20th. If we didn’t have those warmups in late January and the 2 in February, we would be buried in snow still.

  14. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

    It’s snowing at a pretty good clip right now. I’d say about a half inch snowfall rate, maybe more.

    1. GunLakeDeb says:

      Once again – you’re in the “sweet spot”. It’s snowing here – but lightly. Nothing is sticking.

      1. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

        We are right at 7″ total since Tuesday. We got more snow today than I thought we would have. And on Monday I forecasted for some spots to receive 6-8″ by Thursday. :)

  15. fixxxer says:

    wheres swatz been?

    1. Jack says:

      I second that thought Fizzzzzer. Omg I had a similar Thought as Fixxxxer , that totally Sucks. ;-)

      1. fixxxer says:

        i assume shes sick of the snow and cold as well. im sure she will be back when it warms up and storms are coming.

  16. fixxxer says:

    Bill’s sure has been quiet and not responding to posts lately.

    1. big Daddy BC says:

      He’s just been waiting for me. ;)

      1. Bill Steffen says:

        http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs_v3/Fig.C.gif

        “The five-year mean global temperature has been flat for the last decade…” – James Hansen et al.

      2. big Daddy BC says:

        “…an announcement by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers that two of the Great Lakes (Michigan and Huron) reached their lowest level in the 1918-present record at the end of January 2013, and the other Great Lakes (Superior, Erie, and Ontario) were also well below average. The lake level for Lakes Michigan and Huron remained at record low levels at the end of February 2013.”

        http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/cmb/sotc/drought/2013/02/michigan-huron-lake-level-jan1918-feb2013.png

        This AND the 52% of the country is still in a drought since 2010. Keep on celebrating the snow, but it’s hardly taken a dent out of the climate change mess the last two and a half years has brought the US.

        1. Bill Steffen says:

          The drop in the water level of Lake Michigan/Huron is primarily due to dredging the St. Clair River. Precipitation in the winter of 2011-12 and this winter (2012-13) was ABOVE average: http://www.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/pressure-mounts-to-restore-great-lakes-water-levels-f76ug5a-170854881.html The water level of Lake Superior is higher than it was one year ago, and will get a upward shot when the record late March snowfall melts off. Lake Erie was well above average level last spring and is only marginally below average level now…same for Lake Ontario.

          The drought area isn’t all that different from average. Florida is in a drought, but they had well above average rainfall in 2012. The SW U.S. is more often in drought than not due to infrequent average rainfall – plus that area is either irrigated or vacant in terms of agriculture.

        2. big Daddy BC says:

          So half of the country in a drought is a normal thing? Now that’s hilarious!! I think that’s what you call creeping normalcy.

        3. big Daddy BC says:

          Do you consider the Dust Bowl ‘normal’ too? Are you nutso??

        4. Robert (Plainwell) says:

          The dust bowl was part of natural variability, and poor farming techniques Why do you call people names it shows your lack of having a good debate, but I guess I should of known your side doesn’t do debates.

        5. big Daddy BC says:

          Envelope pushing events like the ones we’ve seen in the last decade are not natural variability. If they were, they’d have been happening all along. If you take each individually, yes, they can be explained away. That’s what Bill does. He finds random mets who claim they can’t find a link to climate change. But real scientists look at climate rather than weather. They use statistical modeling to see if these trends are natural. Currently, Robert, their unanimous conclusion is that they are not.

          AND to claim I don’t debate WHILE I’M DEBATING is idiotic. Yes, another name, Foolish Fatty.

        6. Robert (Plainwell) says:

          Envelope pushing events have always happened, a trace gas like co2 doesn’t create extreme events.

          Also stop using links that talk about modeling, the models have been proven wrong.

          Russian heat wave natural variability.

          http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/03/09/natural-causes-drove-russian-heat-wave-study-finds/

        7. Robert (Plainwell) says:

          News paper clippings talking about extreme weather events dating back to the 19th century.

          http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/bad-weather/

        8. Bill Steffen says:

          “Professor Judith Curry, who is the head of the climate science department at America’s prestigious Georgia Tech university, told The Mail on Sunday that it was clear that the computer models used to predict future warming were ‘deeply flawed’.”

          This is from an article in the U.K Daily Mail, but is repeated on Dr. Curry’s blog here: http://judithcurry.com/2012/10/14/pause-discussion-thread/

  17. big Daddy BC says:

    Australia’s now reported it had the hottest summer on record. Fourteen weather stations report record highs. Nice that the southern hemisphere is keeping pace with the north!

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-03-01/australia-experiences-hottest-summer-on-record/4547746

    Globally, NOAA’s got February as the ninth hottest on record. And the beat keeps runnin’, runnin’, run, runnin’…

    1. Bill Steffen says:

      Global temperature for 2013 thru 3/20 is almost exactly average: http://models.weatherbell.com/climate/ncep_cfsr_t2m_anom.png

      Southern Hemisphere ice is extraordinary! Record ice extent (poor penguins!): http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/seaice.anomaly.antarctic.png My goodness…at the end of summer in Antarctica and the ice is ALREADY nearly one standard deviation above average! WOW!

      1. big Daddy BC says:

        Weatherbell is Maue’s website. You remember him, the one who does guest appearances on Rush Limbaugh. I think we’ll trust NOAA over that wack job. LOL

        Sea ice in Antarctica is caused by the increase in humidity, Mr. Science. LOL Now I’d like to see you pick it up and glue it to the receding glaciers in Greenland, Glacier National Park, and Alaska.

        1. Bill Steffen says:

          You can’t refute the data can you, bigD. Look again! Global temperatures have STOPPED WARMING:

          “The five-year mean global temperature has been flat for the last decade…” – James Hansen et al.

          http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs_v3/Fig.C.gif

          CO2 emissions are falling in the U.S.: http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/08/in-a-surprise-co2-emissions-hit-20-year-low/1#.UUu4wjeS_Kc

          You climate profiteers will be forced to back off you’re primary goal of “skyrocketing” energy prices and $9 a gallon “European level” gasoline prices! Forcing that on the lower and middle class would crash the economy.

        2. big Daddy BC says:

          NOAA called the last twelve months the hottest year in history. What that means, and I’ll type slowly for your, is that it IS getting warmer. Last summer was the hottest summer in US history. This winter was Australia’s hottest summer on record. Nature doesn’t give a rat’s ass about calendars or dates. That’s man made, like climate change. LOL

        3. Bill Steffen says:

          NASA says global temperatures AREN’T RISING:

          “The five-year mean global temperature has been flat for the last decade…” – James Hansen et al.

          http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs_v3/Fig.C.gif

          Professor Judith Curry of the BEST group at Berkeley: Prof Curry said, the project’s research data show there has been no increase in world temperatures since the end of the Nineties – a fact confirmed by a new analysis that The Mail on Sunday has obtained.

          ‘There is no scientific basis for saying that warming hasn’t stopped,’ she said. ‘To say that there is detracts from the credibility of the data, which is very unfortunate.’

          Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2055191/Scientists-said-climate-change-sceptics-proved-wrong-accused-hiding-truth-colleague.html#ixzz2OES6FVTY

        4. Bill Steffen says:

          Go ahead and check out bigDaddy’s link.

          Now look at this article: http://www.mlive.com/environment/index.ssf/2009/07/a_conversation_with_state_clim.html

          The State Climatologist of Michigan says: “…interestingly it seems to be concentrated mostly in one part of the year, notably at night during the winter.”

          That doesn’t sound like CO2. Most weather stations are now at airports, where plane and vehicular traffic stir the air on calm, clear nights. Cold air doesn’t settle near the ground like it did 100 years ago with out the asphalt, concrete and air/vehicle traffic.

          Keep in mind that CO2 emissions in the U.S. are falling and are now at a 20-year low: http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/08/in-a-surprise-co2-emissions-hit-20-year-low/1#.UUz-uTeS_Kc

          And that global temperatures have been steady now for over a decade: http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs_v3/Fig.C.gif Any child can read this graph!!

          “The five-year mean global temperature has been flat for the last decade….” – James Hansen et al.

        5. Robert (Plainwell) says:

          Tax payer funded site, and they won’t allow me to access it. Thanks hand cuffs Hansen.

          http://web.archive.org/web/20130117062304/http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata_v3/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt

      1. big Daddy BC says:

        NOAA and CBS must be the ones exaggerating, Robert. Interesting how quickly you swooped in to rescue Bill. Almost like you’re right there at the station with him. LOL INTERN ALERT!!!

        1. Robert (Plainwell) says:

          Oh poor bDBC are you feeling picked on? Dr. Maue probably thinks just as highly of you. Your view points are slowly losing the war just like the heat on Earth is losing to the colder weather coming for the next few decades.

        2. big Daddy BC says:

          Oh really? A global cooling nut? LOL Bill was trying to sell that garbage on here a couple years ago. Since then, look what’s happened. LOL I haven’t seen him return to that argument for quite a while. Of course with you sitting next to him at they keyboard, maybe he’s just speaking through you. Who knows or cares.

        3. Robert (Plainwell) says:

          It’s the ocean cycles that control the climate not CO2, unless you want to talk about data manipulation then NOAA and NASA win the battle.

        4. big Daddy BC says:

          The NO TRICK ZONE!? LOL

        5. Bill Steffen says:

          The only “trick” you know is the one that was used to “Hide the Decline”: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/12/understanding_climategates_hid.html

        6. big Daddy BC says:

          I don’t know, seems kind of tricky of me to out forecast the self-proclaimed “Chief” every season for two years straight. LOL

        7. Bill Steffen says:

          My November prediction for snow (with all the other meteorologists in the G.R. Press (MLive) was 67″ for G.R. We are now at 65.1″ How’s your prediction for a warm February and March working out? Let’s ask Rocky and Fixxxer!

      2. Robert (Plainwell) says:

        Sorry Bill that I was late for my internship tonight, I won’t let it happen again.

  18. big Daddy BC says:

    BTW, Bill. Looks like I won our bet. It was hotter and wetter, just like I predicted. You said “cold”. When Do I get to see you on that air with that I LOVE BIG DADDY shirt? Can’t wait! LOL

    “The average temperature for the contiguous U.S. during the winter season was 34.3°F, 1.9°F above the 20th century average, marking the 20th warmest winter on record.
    Winter was warmer than average for all states east of the Rockies, with the largest departures from average along the East Coast. Florida, Delaware, and Vermont each had one of their ten warmest winters on record. Conversely, the Southwest was cooler than average, and near-average winter temperatures reported in the Northwest.
    The winter nationally-averaged precipitation total of 7.10 inches was 0.63 inch above the long-term average.”

    http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/national/2013/2

    1. Bill Steffen says:

      We had no bet, liar. You’ve lost the “global warming” climate profiteering bet. Even James Hansen says it isn’t warming!

      “The five-year mean global temperature has been flat for the last decade…” – James Hansen et al.

      https://twitter.com/BigJoeBastardi/status/314205289421361153/photo/1

      http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs_v3/Fig.C.gif

      1. Robert (Plainwell) says:

        Hey Bill I love how NOAA comes out with there press releases and then qualifies it with this statement.

        PLEASE NOTE: All of the temperature and precipitation ranks and values are based on preliminary data. The ranks will change when the final data are processed, but will not be replaced on these pages. Graphics based on final data are provided on the Temperature and Precipitation Maps page and the Climate at a Glance page as they become available.

        Meaning when the final data gets figured they don’t do a press release. I think that stinks of data manipulation.

    2. big Daddy BC says:

      You, sir, are the liar. Your right-wing bully squad all saw you challenge me. I accepted and spelled it out in detail back in the fall. It wouldn’t be the first bit of truth you’ve denied. LOL

      YOU LOSE>>>>>AGAIN!!! LOL

      “Winter was warmer than average for all states east of the Rockies, with the largest departures from average along the East Coast. Florida, Delaware, and Vermont each had one of their ten warmest winters on record. Conversely, the Southwest was cooler than average, and near-average winter temperatures reported in the Northwest.
      The winter nationally-averaged precipitation total of 7.10 inches was 0.63 inch above the long-term average.” NOAA

      1. Bill Steffen says:

        More name calling…that’s all you’ve got left! Winter is going strong across the U.S. Factor in March and you erase the warm from Dec. – Feb. The first 3 weeks of March have been 0.575 deg. Celsius COLDER than average! http://models.weatherbell.com/climate/ncep_cfsr_t2m_anom.png (NASA DATA).

        Fits with the fact that global temperatures have peaked:

        “The five-year mean global temperature has been flat for the last decade…” – James Hansen et al.

        CO2 emissions are falling: http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/08/in-a-surprise-co2-emissions-hit-20-year-low/1#.UUu4wjeS_Kc

        No “skyrocketing” utility bills for the lower and middle class!! No $9 a gallon “European level” gasoline prices for the lower and middle class!!! No more special-interest cronyism: http://nation.foxnews.com/obama/2012/10/20/list-36-obama-s-taxpayer-funded-green-energy-failures No climate profiteering!

        http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs_v3/Fig.C.gif

      2. big Daddy BC says:

        Read above. You called names first. Short term memory loss is a sign of republicanitis. That’s an inflammation of self importance. Have a look at how this year compares to the last century. I’d say it looks like a definite upward trend. LOL

        http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/temp-and-precip/time-series/index.php?parameter=tmp&month=1&year=2013&filter=12&state=20&div=0

        1. Bill Steffen says:

          OK everyone…check out bigDaddy’s link.

          Now look at this article: http://www.mlive.com/environment/index.ssf/2009/07/a_conversation_with_state_clim.html

          The State Climatologist of Michigan says: “…interestingly it seems to be concentrated mostly in one part of the year, notably at night during the winter.”

          That doesn’t sound like CO2. Most weather stations are now at airports, where plane and vehicular traffic stir the air on calm, clear nights. Cold air doesn’t settle near the ground like it did 100 years ago with out the asphalt, concrete and air/vehicle traffic.

          Keep in mind that CO2 emissions in the U.S. are falling and are now at a 20-year low: http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/08/in-a-surprise-co2-emissions-hit-20-year-low/1#.UUz-uTeS_Kc

          And that global temperatures have been steady now for over a decade: http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs_v3/Fig.C.gif

          “The five-year mean global temperature has been flat for the last decade….” – James Hansen et al.

        2. big Daddy BC says:

          Hilarious that the article you linked is from 2009, before the notorious summer of 2012! Anderson is a supporter of climate change science just like every other credible professional in the field. The fact that it’s warmer at night fully supports CO2 as the primary driver of warming. Do I need to explain the science? Holy smokes, every single month of the last 336 consecutive months have been ABOVE normal. If warming wasn’t happening, we’d be oscillating above and below. Last July was the hottest month on record. Last summer was the hottest recorded summer for the northern hemisphere. This season was the hottest summer Australia’s got on record. It was so hot they had to change the colors on their weather maps! NOAA just announced that the last twelve months were the hottest year on record. This winter was above normal just like I bet you it would be. You look foolish linking blogs and out of date articles. Give it up.

        3. Bill Steffen says:

          Nothing in the article has changed since 2009. What’s changed is that we have four more years of no warming:

          Keep in mind that CO2 emissions in the U.S. are falling and are now at a 20-year low: http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/08/in-a-surprise-co2-emissions-hit-20-year-low/1#.UUz-uTeS_Kc

          And that global temperatures have been steady now for over a decade: http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs_v3/Fig.C.gif

          “The five-year mean global temperature has been flat for the last decade….” – James Hansen et al.

          The lack of warming is causing climate alarmists to reconsider their position:

          http://notrickszone.com/2013/02/17/meteorologist-dominik-jung-turns-skeptical-after-germany-sets-record-5-consecutive-colder-than-normal-winters/

          http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/04/23/11144098-gaia-scientist-james-lovelock-i-was-alarmist-about-climate-change?lite

          http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=2f4cc62e-5b0d-4b59-8705-fc28f14da388

          Four of the last five winters have been colder in the U.K. – Germany trending the same way: http://notalotofpeopleknowthat.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/image46.png

        4. big Daddy BC says:

          More blogs and incredulous links. LOL

          2012 was the hottest year in US history!

          “A hundred years from now, they’re not going to be talking about health care or the fiscal cliff,” said Vanderbilt Law School professor Michael Vandenbergh. “But they will ask, ‘What did you do when we knew we were going to have serious climate change?’ ”

          http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-01-08/national/36207396_1_noaa-analysis-climate-change-thomas-r-karl

          2013 was the hottest summer in Australian history!
          http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/breaking-news/bureau-confirms-hottest-summer-on-record/story-fn3dxiwe-1226588298573

          “If you’re 27 years old, you’ve never experienced an ‘average’ month’s temperature – it’s all been above average.”

        5. big Daddy BC says:

          http://www.climatecentral.org/news/noaa-2012-was-warmest-and-second-most-extreme-year-on-record-15436

          The year consisted of the fourth-warmest winter, the warmest spring, second-warmest summer, and a warmer-than-average fall. With an average temperature that was 3.6°F above average, July became the hottest month ever recorded in the contiguous U.S. The average springtime temperature in the lower 48 was so far above the 1901-2000 average — 5.2°F, to be exact — that the country set a record for the largest temperature departure for any season on record.

          “Climate change has had a role in this [record],” said Jake Crouch, a climate scientist at NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center in Asheville, N.C. He said it isn’t clear yet exactly how much of the temperature record was due to climate change compared to natural variability, but that it’s unlikely such a record would have occurred without the long-term warming trend caused in large part by emissions of greenhouse gases.”

        6. Robert (Plainwell) says:

          Hey Bill obviously the more CO2 the warmer it gets.

          http://notrickszone.com/2013/03/23/europe-shock-freeze-catastrophe-winter-continues-german-televison-warns-coldest-night-in-100-years/

          Well at least that is what the warmists want us to believe.

        7. Bill Steffen says:

          http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/01/09/Update-Hottest-Year-in-US-Called-into-Question–1930s-Still-Reign-as-Hottest–Global-Temps-remain-stagnant/

          The Lower 48 states is less than 2% of the Earth’s Surface. Globally, 2012 was very close to average: http://models.weatherbell.com/climate/ncep_cfsr_t2m_anom_2012.png Anomaly +0.039 degree It was unusually warm over the Arctic, much of the Lower 48 states and Canada and cool over much of the rest of the world.

          So far, March 2013 Temperature Anomaly for the U.S. a very significant -1.039 degree C.

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