More Snow for the U.P.

April 6th, 2013 at 3:36 am by under Bill's Blog, Weather

Winter Weather Advisory    More snow on the way for the U.P.  Look at the heavy snow from Denver and Cheyenne to Minneapolis to Marquette.  There’s a Winter Weather Advisory for the entire Upper Peninsula and far northern Wisconsin for 3-5″ of new snow and an isolated 8″ total Sat. and Sat. night.    They still have a LOT of snow up there.  Snow cover Sat. AM:  44″ Hoist Basin (W. of Marquette), 41″ Big Bay, 36″ Grand Marais, 32″ Marquette Airport, 30″ Atlantic Mine, 28″ Munising, 26″ Twin Lakes, 23″ Paradise, 18″ S. Ste. Marie, 12″ Ironwood, 10″ Iron Mt., 5″ Manistique.  In Lower Michigan, E. Jordan tops the list with 12″ on the ground.  Scottville in Mason Co. had 0.3″ of snowfall this Sat. morning. There’s also a Gale Watch for Lake Michigan for winds to 40 mph and an isolated wave to 15 feet.    Oh, and check this out.  It really works.  Put in 120 College SE, Grand Rapids MI 49503 and you can see WOOD-TV (well, the roof and parking lot!).

The models remain miles apart for mid-week with the GFS bringing the warm front north and giving G.R. temperatures near 70.  The European (which I and the NWS favor) has a chilly day on Weds. with temperatures in the 30s to near 40.  The northern part of the viewing area would actually be close to getting a period of freezing rain if the European is right.  The GFS model has been trending south.  Originally, it had the low pressure center going up toward S. Ste. Marie.  Now it’s about over G.R. and I expect the next run of the GFS to be a little farther south of that.  We’ll see.

There’s still a chance of a rumble of thunder this evening or Monday (best chance south of I-94).   Much of the Lower 48 States has been cooler than average since January 1.  From Accu-Weather:  “Temps. in London have averaged below normal every day since March 17, and since March 10th in Paris.”

67 Responses to “More Snow for the U.P.”

  1. Jerry hoag says:

    I love the first run, warm front way up north!! Give us 70!! That would feel very refreshing! The day before my surgery with a 70 degree temp would be a treat!

  2. INDY says:

    Fox 17 has us 60′s and even 70 next week now thats off the wall weather!!! INDYY…

    1. Blue Moon says:

      Wow, it would be nice if they were right but I really don’t think so

    2. fixxxer says:

      I wish we would hit the 70′s indy.

  3. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    I love it! Bill is still talking about SNOW, COLD and WIND! At least he tells like it is and realizes that we are still in a cold pattern! FOX 17 is living in fantasy land. They have a drastic warm weather bias. They are wrong about 90% of the time! I am headed up to Boyne Mountain for some GREAT Spring skiing! This will be the 12th weekend in a row of GREAT WINTER SPORTS conditions! This is the best Spring season that we have had in at least 25 years!! FANTASTIC – COLD, SNOW and skiing in mid April! It does not get better that that unless I am still skiing in May!!! Keep the COLD and SNOW rocking and rolling baby!!! All of the warm weather nuts have fun fantasizing about 60 and 70 degree temperatures that won’t be happening next week!

    1. fixxxer says:

      Go stuff it rj. In case you havent noticed most of us want you and you dual identities off the blog.

      1. Blue Moon says:

        I find it best to simply ignore him

        1. fixxxer says:

          At least last year he switched modes to golfing amd liking warm weather. This year he is off his meds and has a bad case of “winternutitis”.

  4. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

    Its a cloudy and still on the cold side here with a temp of 38° here. While if the warm front makes it north of here it should warm up but that will not be until late in the day. Until then we will have a cold NE wind to deal with. I have not been out side yet but looking out the window it looks rather windy. I have a gut feeling that next week will not be warm at all and we have to hope we do not get too much cold air into the midweek system or we at best will be looking at a cold rain and at worst a chance of freezing rain. Not good for almost mid April. Remember GR still has not made it to 60 yet and the warmest its been all year so far happened in January. Right now we may be looking at late April before we hit that 60° mark. (unless this warm front surprises us a little) Its soon will be time to check the record books to see when the latest first 60° day happened here in GR.
    SlimJim

    1. GunLakeDeb says:

      Well SJ, if YOU are saying “cold” next week and Bill is siding with the Euro (cold) – I guess I’ll keep my winter coat close at hand….LOL!!

      Just a cool gray morning here – even though the radar showed rain going over – we saw none of it hitting the ground. That might concern me (it’s kind of dry around here – the snow has been gone for a month) if we didn’t have a gob of rain in the upcoming forecast.

  5. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

    So far you have to go back to 2002 since we had a year that has gone this late without a 60° day. That year the first 60° day did not happen until April 10, 2002 then the next day it was 72° then it stayed mild for the rest of that April. But May of 2002 was cold (-6.0) and the last freeze way on May 20th and the last frost was on 26th. I wonder how the local crops did that year?
    So far the snow event in the UP has underperformed with most places having received less then a inch.
    SlimJim

  6. Swatz_Zoo(Cedar Springs) says:

    ARGH NOT COLD I have goslings hatching this coming week!!

    1. fixxxer says:

      this year reminds me alot of the 2009-2010 season.

      1. Marti B (Grandville area) says:

        Was that the year we had a fairly cool summer? I did not like that at all! I am a person who loves the summer to be warm.

        1. fixxxer says:

          I wanna say 2007 or 2008. And yes i love warm summers to.

        2. Ryan (Algoma) says:

          I remember wearing a jacket and seeing my breath on the 4th of July 2009 while watching fireworks. That sucked.

        3. fixxxer says:

          Yeah and that was the year the beaches amd lakefront attractions suffered major losses becuase of the cold weather. I remember it was on the news. Not good.

    2. GunLakeDeb says:

      Their mommies will wrap them in goosedown ;-)

  7. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

    I have had this site up before but for the ones who want to keep a eye on the UP snow fall this is a very good one as its up to date and is a live feed…

    http://www.exploremunising.com/weather.html

    I am not sure if they keep it up all year on not.
    SlimJim

    1. Barry in Zeeland(currently in Houghton, MI) says:

      Cool link! We just drove past most of these cams just a couple days ago. We were probably going so fast that there was just a blur on the camera!

      1. Barry in Zeeland says:

        Oops, forgot to change my laptop to Barry in Zeeland instead of currently in Houghton…..

  8. fixxxer says:

    Do you ever sleep bill? Posting this at almost 4am.

  9. Travis (Oakland County) says:

    Well, Wood is the coldest forecast on the block again.

    Compared to Detroit or even what Fox 17 is saying it looks like Wood is in a different climate for the upcoming week. Models are all over the place, so we’ll see how it plays out! I’m just looking forward to sunny and around 60 here tomorrow.

    Go Blue!

    1. fixxxer says:

      In case you havent noticed west michigan weather is vastly different than what you get over there.

      1. Travis (Oakland County) says:

        March 2013 mean temperature difference is a whole 2 degrees. Usually very small differences is all.

      2. Brad (Lawrence) says:

        And West Michigans weather is much different than up North, but we constantly hear Rocky blabbing about that also. It gets old.

        1. Ryan (Algoma) says:

          In his defense, the name of this thread is “More Snow for the U.P.”

      3. fixxxer says:

        Travis the lake here causes alot of wind events as well as alot of cloud cover. Thats one thing i noticed when i moved here in 2006. So yes we get much different conditions than you in oakland.

    2. WickedTwister says:

      For the record WZZM 13 is just as cold as Wood and if you read the Forcast Discussion by GRR you’d see it could actually be even colder, Fox is still calling 70 on Wed, must be using there “in home model” they like to use, I wouldn’t be surprised if many areas especially from Grand Rapids North stay in 40′s most of Wed. Also Detroit and Grand Rapids are on opposite sides of the state, comparing a Detroit Forcast to Woods Forcast is rather… Unintelligent ;)

      1. WickedTwister says:

        And yes I like spelling forecast without a “e” lol

        1. GunLakeDeb says:

          My spell check shows either version as “misspelled”. (?)

      2. DF (SE Mich) says:

        Very much so, that is why I still follow this blog :)

  10. fixxxer says:

    Oh l@@k…more crappy clouds and wind today.

    1. Cort S. says:

      I guess nothing in life is free. Without these strong winds (from the south), we wouldn’t even be in the 50s today.

      1. fixxxer says:

        Its always windy and cloudy here it seems.

        1. Cort S. says:

          Yeah… I think we had a few really nice days back in 2007.

        2. SBPortage002 says:

          We have had a fair amount of sun the last week…at least here…and some shining through the clouds here as I speak.

        3. fixxxer says:

          Ok?

        4. fixxxer says:

          What signifigance does 2007 have cort?

        5. Cort S. says:

          I was just kidding. You know… we go a few years in between nice days. It’s the Michigan way. :)

        6. fixxxer says:

          Yeah we dont get many months of nice warm weather. Thats for sure.

  11. fixxxer says:

    Well lets hope they are wrong. I think most of us are tired of the cold weather.

      1. fixxxer says:

        I love how these guys get bill all worked up.

      2. big Daddy BC says:

        It’s more of the corporate company line. Thanks for that, Bill.

        Here’s what NOAA think’s about our weatherman’s amateur opinion.

        “Most mountain glaciers and ice caps have been shrinking, with the retreat probably having started about 1850. Although many Northern Hemisphere glaciers had a few years of near-balance around 1970, this was followed by increased shrinkage. Melting of glaciers and ice caps contributed 0.77 ± 0.22 mm yr–1 to sea level rise between 1991 and 2004.”
        http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/education/pd/climate/factsheets/isamount.pdf

        Here’s some great time-lapse video that shows glacial calving: http://www.ted.com/talks/james_balog_time_lapse_proof_of_extreme_ice_loss.html

    1. Kimoeagle says:

      Why is it that the NY Times is always the newspaper quoted in stories about melting glaciers?Is it because it goes for sensational (spell that disquieting) news? Gee, if they keep that up, they will look a lot like their hated rivals, Fox News!!! IMHO.

      1. big Daddy BC says:

        THIS ONE’S FROM NATIONAL GEO
        http://environment.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/big-thaw/

        THIS ONE’S FROM SCIENCE DAILY
        “Anthropogenic climate change leads to melting glaciers and rising sea level.”
        http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/11/121114083819.htm

        1. Bill Steffen says:

          I’ll respond after the news. Catastrophic “global warming” is fading under the weight of fact and data. It hasn’t warmed in over 10 years. It shows you’re climate models have been wrong. No, we won’t let you make utility bills “skyrocket” and we won’t let you tax gasoline to $9 a gallon “European levels”.

        2. big Daddy BC says:

          What fact? Where’s the data? All you have is hyperbole and blog links.

          Snyder’s the one raising gas taxes, nineteen cents per gallon!!!

  12. Darlene says:

    Bill I’m wondering if you can remember a year (late 70′s) when we had a real bad snowstorm I think during Spring break week. We had driven to Detroit and got as far a Lansing when we had to pull off the road got a room and as we are checking in a state policeman came in and said they were closing the highway. I think 131 was closed as well for drifts. I am remembering this correctly ?

    1. fixxxer says:

      lets not talk about snowstorms in april or rocky will get all worked up.

    2. Bill Steffen says:

      I don’t have all my data here at home, but the two early April snowstorms I remember were 1975 and 1982. If I didn’t have a big old Suburban and a downhill push to Four Mile Road…I wouldn’t have made it to work in 1982. I blasted through a drift that must have been 3 feet high! Dang, that was fun!

      1. Darlene says:

        Think it must have been 1975. Road was closed between Lansing and GR and between GR and KZO. I know we had small kids with us so 82 would have been too late

  13. DF (SE Mich) says:

    Cursed again by the CPC and WXYZ…

  14. fixxxer says:

    well if you look at the cpc 90 day outlook it went from being above average to just about average for us. of course this can change but our average temps aren’t very good.

    http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/predictions/90day/

    1. Cort S. says:

      These graphics can be a little misleading, because they only show the chances of it being warmer or colder than normal, which is not necessarily the same as them calling for it to be warmer or colder than normal. Usually when we are in the orange region on a 30 or 90-day outlook, it means that we have a 33-50% chance of having above-normal temperatures. There are still chances which are 33% or less that we will be near or below normal.

      So when we are in the white part of a 30 or 90-day temperature outlook, they are not actually calling for near-normal temperatures. They are saying that above-normal has just as much chance of happening as below-normal and just as much chance as near-normal… 33% chance of each. Which is kind of like them saying, “we don’t know.” (Hey, I give them credit for admitting that!)

      1. fixxxer says:

        Its all for fun and games anyways.

        1. Kimoeagle says:

          Are you sayin’ it’s a crap shoot, fixxer?? ;-)

        2. fixxxer says:

          It is really. Last year joe.b and a few others said most of the summer would be jacket weather. Look how that turned out.

  15. Marti B (Grandville area) says:

    Ugh, I feel bad for my friend Marie who lives in L’anse. She chose to move up there 4 years ago to take care of her older sister…. and Marie’s sister has lived in the UP her entire life, so I guess they’re used to that type of weather. I was only up there one time to visit in the last 4 years and there was no snow then – it was late summer.

    1. fixxxer says:

      You couldnt pay me to live up north.

      1. Mark (East Lansing) says:

        What if we all pooled our money together? Everyone has a price.

        1. fixxxer says:

          You could for me to move to south florida. ;)

  16. Kimoeagle says:

    Just looked at your satellite view of WOOD’s QTH. Durn. Looks like the Andrews salesman saw you guys comin’! Ten (count-em) dishes!!! :-)

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