Thursday evening – more rain

April 10th, 2013 at 3:46 am by under Bill's Blog, Weather

Local  7:55 PM Thurs.  Only 6% of possible sunshine over the last six days.  The last time we hit 60 was Dec. 4.  The last time we hit 70 was Nov. 11 and the last time it hit 80 was Sept. 12.    I had a radio interview this AM on WCSG and then a school career day up in Sparta.  I also drove around a bit to look at river levels.  I’m working on the news now.  We’ll do a little bit on the Palm Sunday Tornadoes at 5:20 PM.  I’ll update later this evening.  3/4″ of rain today in G.R., around an inch in Holland and Battle Creek.  Big slug of light-moderate rain moving thru during the early morning with a stiff ENE wind and a few embedded thunderstorms.    Tornadoes and significant damage in the St. Louis area.  Gust to 101 mph in Sullivan MO:    0715 PM TSTM WND GST 1 NNE SULLIVAN 38.23N 91.16W 04/10/2013  M101 MPH FRANKLIN MO AWOS.   Franklin Co. hard hit.  Damage in South St. Louis.  Minor injuries.   The high temperature today in G.R. was 42.  That was actually warmer than April 9, 2012.   Only light showers and sprinkles in the area now.  The heavier batch of rain which is currently along the Mississippi River will move into our area after 2 AM.  It’s going to be a nasty morning commute, with a strong ENE wind, rain and possibly a little lightning in a few places.   Click the links on the page for a lot more weather data.  A Flood Watch remains in effect for most of the area and there are Flood Advisories out for some area rivers.  Here’s where you can find water levels and stream flow for area rivers.   Check out the snow that the GFS is forecasting for the U.P.  They could have more snow on the ground on April 15 than on April 1st!

There is still a chance for a band of freezing rain across parts of Central Michigan Weds. night to Thurs. night.   Do keep up with later forecasts if you live north of M-20 (best chance for a period of freezing rain would be the higher elevations up around Lake City.    The GRR NWS has issued a Winter Weather Advisory from 2 AM to 8 PM Thurs. for freezing rain, sleet and gusty winds.  The counties included in the Advisory are:  MASON-LAKE-OSCEOLA-CLARE-OCEANA-NEWAYGO-MECOSTA-ISABELLA.

Severe weather today includes 4 tornadoes (may have been the same tornado) in Van Buren Co., Arkansas, 85 reports of large hail up to egg-size and 80 reports of wind damage.  We have severe t-storms watches from Pennsylvania to Illinois and tornado watches from Illinois down to Louisiana and Mississippi.  No severe weather is expected here, though a t-storm could bring some small hail in this cold air.

For current Michigan weather observations and wind speeds, click here. Here’s WOOD-TV Interactive Radar, looping radar. Check out regional radar, GRR radar, northern Indiana radar, Chicago radar and Milwaukee radar. Here’s the College of DuPage Radar Map, the local warning/advisory map and the National warning/watch/advisory map. You can checkout the latest Grand Rapids NWS discussion, the Northern Indiana NWS discussion (includes the Michigan Counties that border Indiana), the discussion for Northern Lower Michigan, and Eastern Lower Michigan. Here’s the Spyglass Condos Weather Station the S. Haven GLERL station, the Muskegon GLERL station, the Grand Haven Steelheaders webcam and weather station, and the weather station at Holland State Park. Check out the WOOD lightning tracker and U.S. lightning, the Maranatha Webcam at Lake Michigan and links to webcams. Here’s the infrared satellite loop (night) and the visible satellite loop (daytime), Lake Michigan water temperatures and the HPC snowfall predictions. Here’s NAM model snowfall thru 84 hours, the GFS snowfall thru 120 hours.

246 Responses to “Thursday evening – more rain”

  1. INDY says:

    This weather makes my teeth hurt on and off like the rain some people’s back hurt my teeth do when fronts move in…Side note listen up we have major ice coming for central Michigan I would start thinking slippery when wet..Stay tuned…..INDY

    1. fixxxer says:

      Gr inst in central michigan indy. I hope it stays east of here.

    2. Jack says:

      What? Your Teeth are a Relative Humidty Indicator ? That’s Crazy ! Sure it ain’t From The ICE COLD SPRITES ! Lol.. Stay Cued, and 4 Folks in Line for Freezing Rain ..ECT. ( STAY CUBED)…. ;-)

  2. INDY says:

    Hey I-96 north better be on the watch for this ice event coming but more north like Lakeview Newyago Ballcity Belmont Badwind Chase Tacoville are going to get it bad!!!! We have a chance in Grand Rapids to be really slippery come Friday morning Kids may have a 3 day week’nd again….Stay Tuned…INDYY..

  3. big Daddy BC says:

    Bad news from NOAA: “Although drought is expected to improve in parts of the Southeast, the western Great Lakes, and the northern Great Plains, it will likely continue to plague large parts of the south-central and southwestern United States—even expanding into parts of California, eastern Texas, and the Florida Peninsula. Some areas of the country, especially the south-central region, have experienced drought conditions for over a year. Across the Pacific, Hawaii is also experiencing varying levels of drought.Many of these drought-stricken areas are also favored to experience above-average temperatures and below-average precipitation this spring, including the south-central and southwestern United States.”

    1. INDY says:

      Hey Big Daddy the drought is over here out thee YARDofBRICKS Thee green grass is back nothing like we had last summer going to be lots of rain coming and pain for people that go camping this summer…PS fireworkes will not start a lot of grass fires this year …..Stay tuned INDYY..

    2. Mark (East Lansing) says:

      It seems that there are drought conditions somewhere in the US every year.

      1. big Daddy BC says: Since 2010, that’s true, but that’s because we’re in an actual drought.

    3. Bill Steffen says:

      1) There is always a drought somewhere.
      2) We have had above average precipitation in the Great Lakes Area this winter/spring and that trend will continue.
      3) Droughts are NOT related to CO2 in the atmosphere. Texas was the state most impacted by drought in 2012. Here’s what the State Climatologist of Texas said about the drought: “There is no evidence that climate change contributed to the lack of rainfall, because rainfall has risen over the past century in the state.”
      4) CO2 emissions in the U.S. have been falling (note – the U.S. is the only industrialized country to meet the Kyoto Protocol figures:
      5) Global temperatures have not risen (they have been flat) for over 10 years:

      1. Szokoe says:

        Bill~Is that cold pocket of air in the north I’ve been hearing about fading yet? I’ve heard that it’s been keeping the Central US cooler than normal this Spring… that why we are so cold this Spring? I just want some warm sunshine…it makes the body feel so good!

      2. big Daddy BC says:

        The state climatologist of Texas huh? LOL Couldn’t get anyone more qualified than that? I understand he works for Lewis Energy when he’s not moonlighting as a ‘climatologist.’ You right-wingers are hilarious.

        As far as temps leveling off:

        “US has hottest year since 1895, say scientists”

        “Hottest six month period ever recorded was during the first half of this year”

        1. Bill Steffen says:

          What Dr. Nielsen-Gammon said is true and you can look at the data yourself. It’s up on the web. Rainfall in Texas and in the U.S. has NOT fallen in the last 100 years.

          Here’s the bio of Dr. John Nielsen-Gammon: You can choose to believe him (he said: “There is no evidence that climate change contributed to the lack of rainfall, because rainfall has risen over the past century in the state.”), or an interrupting, politically-driven shill, who’s offered no credentials whatsoever and is a proven liar (remember he said that Romney was a polygamist…he’s not, BigDaddy lied). You’re choice.

    4. Brian(Grandville) says:

      It’s always dry in the S.W., that’s why it’s called a freaking desert.

      1. big Daddy BC says:

        You understand that a desert and a drought are two different things. Right? Wow.

        1. Bill Steffen says:

          Actually, they’re right. In a desert, rainfall usually comes in very rare shots of significant rain…so they are in either a drought or a significantly above average rainfall situation 90% of the time. If you look at how the Drought Monitor is constructed, that’s the case. You can look at the Drought Monitor over the past 50 years and I bet that 75+% of the time there’s a drought in AZ.

        2. big Daddy BC says:

          I’m linking the drought monitor for you, Billy Boy. The least severe category is abnormally dry. It just ratchets up from there. If the average rainfall is 4 inches per year and it gets 3 inches, that’s abnormal. Four inches would be considered NORMAL. I suppose if you compared AZ to Michigan, it would be considered drought conditions all the time, but that’s not what you compare to. Try again.

        3. Bill Steffen says:

          Go here: Look at the current rainfall from Texas north and look at the past 7 days (your Drought Monitor is from April 2). Some of that drought is going to go away.

          If you look at archived Drought Monitor data, the drought we have today if significantly less and covers less area than the droughts of the 1930s and 1950s:

        4. big Daddy BC says:

          Hottest twelve month periods in order. Sure looks like it’s getting hotter to me. LOL Keep working at it, Magoo. Don’t let the corporations down.

        5. Bill Steffen says:

          GLOBALLY (not just the less than 2% of the Earth which is the contiguous U.S.) temperatures are flat…not rising…level:

        6. Char says:

          Bigdaddybc, what are your qualifications again? We all know Bill Steffens..just curious.

    5. big Daddy BC says:

      Have a look at this from NOAA. Wow! Doesn’t like anything’s stagnating around here except your tired old argument.

      1. Bill Steffen says:

        Thanks, your graphic confirms that temperatures in the U.S. have held steady for the last 10+ years. The U.S. is less than 2% of the Earth’s surface, so let’s look globally:

        NASA accepts it:

        James Hansen accepts it: ” “The five-year mean global temperature has been flat for the last decade,…” – James Hansen et al. As Dr. Judith Curry said, the climate models are “deeply flawed”.

        CO2 emissions in the U.S. are falling:

        No, you can’t force “skyrocketing” utility rates and $9 a gallon “European level” gasoline prices on the poor and middle class.

  4. Mark (East Lansing) says:

    Data is just data. It’s HOW the data is interpreted.

    Remember 30, 40, 50 years ago when there was little or no regulation of what could be put into the atmosphere? Remember when the sky over Gary, Indiana was orange? Why wasn’t there significant global warming/cooling then? The air is much more cleaner now.

    1. Mark (East Lansing) says:

      Reply to BDBC on page 1.

      1. fixxxer says:

        Maybe if rj would stop blowing so much hot air on this blog the climate would improve.

    2. Barb says:

      Only in the U.S. Not in China, India, etc.

  5. Mark says:

    What’s the latest date on record for Grand Rapids to hit 60 degrees for the first time in a year? Has there ever been a year (on record) where the temp never hit 60 until May?

    1. michael g (SE GR) says:

      Matt Kirkwood said April 17th. We have a shot.

      1. fixxxer says:

        Wow a whole whopping 60 degrees.

  6. Ryan (Rockford) says:

    I’m a little perplexed and a bit disappointed by the afternoon update by the NWS. He spends three paragraphs talking about the potential for significant icing of 1/4 to 1/2 an inch in the northern two rows of counties and the fact they even strongly considered issuing an Ice Storm Warning there. He even refers to M-46 as a rough cut-off point, but at no time does he even mention a word about possible icy conditions in the Greater Grand Rapids area, specifically in areas like Rockford/Sparta/Cedar Springs. Is he that confident that the exact cutoff point is border between the northern 2 rows and the 3rd row? Or is it M-46? What about the fact that M-46 runs along US-131 for 15 miles or so in Northern Kent and Western Montcalm Counties? Is it going to straddle the north-south highway?

    I know I’m being cynical, but nobody can tell me he’s that confident in exact surface temperatures to the point where he talks about a significant icing event in one county and dismisses any mention of it 10 or 15 miles south. Not to mention the fact that he fails to state the obvious fact that immediate lakeshore areas may not get the ice as expected due to downsloping with a NE wind. And everyone knows temperatures can at least a degree or two over a few miles based on terrain, presence of buildings and lights, etc. If there’s even a modest chance of some icing (even 1/10 an inch can cause travel headaches), especially in MID-APRIL, I would ordinarily expect a mention in his report. That’s all.

    1. Steelie says:

      Good Day,

      A lot of the folks over at NWS are a bit rattled today. The official announcement of furloughs should be announced tomorrow.


  7. Dan says:

    The Big Daddy returns to once again grace the blog. What is the matter Big Daddy, too cool even for you? I have a great friend who can help you. If you are interested. You probaby wouldn’t listen to him so I’ll keep the contact information to myself. Science and data are they synonomous terms for you? Global Warming, Climate Change can be boiled down to this. The 2nd biggest lie sold to highest bidder! C’mon, Big Daddy for once, please, open your eyes and take look. Follow the money trail. There really is NO consensus in any of data to support such an unfounded claim. The point of that is, if there were consistent data that did support a consensus then, walla, you would have it proven to be true. However, the data has been corrupted and sold. Big, Big spenders bought the lie. Please do the research and take a look. This has been asked of you so many times. However, you think because you are right, you don’t need to look carefully at anything else! There are millions of people on food stamps, there are even more that are starving. Let alone, we have a huge spending problem. How come none of these issues bother you?

    1. Jack says:

      Hey Dan,Nice Read ! This Song came to My Mind, While Reading Your Comments and Others on This Thread Today. I know that You’re a Jackson Browne FAN, So I Thought I’d Share This with You , and Others ! CUE, and ENJOY !!! ;-)

    2. Ned S. (Now in South Holland) says:

      Book him Dano! :-)

    3. Brad says:

      Dumb post, Dan!

    4. Barb says:

      Non sequitur

  8. Dan says:

    Jack, I love the video! The song is also excellent. A lot of truth in those photos.

  9. DF (SE Mich) says:

    Record rainfall in Flint today.

    0432 PM EDT WED APR 10 2013



    1. michael g (SE GR) says:

      Don’t know how long Flint’s period of record is, but .49″ in mid April is suprisingly low.

  10. Jim S.(Saugatuck Twp) says:

    Meanwhile the 18z gfs shows a pretty good snow event next week. Doubt it will happen, but it tells me next week won’t be much better than this week.

    1. bnoppe(Albion) says:

      IT wont but It would be slightly ironic if it did

    2. fixxxer says:

      We get snow in may i think im moving south. You guys can keep that weather.

  11. big Daddy BC says:

    NOAA put out a graphic that shows the hottest consecutive 12 month periods in history. Hardly matches Bill’s contention that the heat’s leveling off.

    1. WickedTwister says:

      I kind of hope ur global warming happens so you’ll be the 1st one to burn up ;)

    2. Mike M. says:

      So last year, big Fudgy. Try temps since January 1st…

      I believe that is one county in Maine above average THIS YEAR. One county. And no Super El Niño in sight. Welcome to the ash heap of history. Jump on!

      1. DF (SE Mich) says:

        Thanks for the current data Mike.

    3. Mark (East Lansing) says:

      Nice copy and paste. Keep up the good work.

  12. fixxxer says:

    Im seeing more and more 40′s for highs the rest of the month. My god bill are we going to have a spring this year or jump right into summer temps?

    1. Brian(Grandville) says:

      We’ll probably skip spring again as usual. Even my dad who enjoys winter is done with this weather.

      1. fixxxer says:

        I sure hope summer is better than this.

    2. fixxxerswrist says:

      master lets give bill a break, we do not want to sound like a broken record like rj.

      1. fixxxer says:

        Go stuff it skot.

    3. steelie says:

      Good Day,

      I hate to say it, but this pattern looks like it might easily hang on for at least another 10-14 days.


  13. TomKap (Michigan St. & Fuller) Grand Rapids says:

    Dear Momma Nature: WHEN CAN I TURN MY FURNACE OFF?!?!!!

  14. fixxxer says:


    1. Cort S. says:

      Fun fact: 1000 is the first number that, when spelled out, contains the letter “a”.

      1. Lisa (Caledonia) says:

        Neato! Didn’t ever think about that… :)

  15. fixxxer says:

    Just helped bring groceries up and it feels like feb out. I sure hope the jet stream changes and this pattern breaks.

    1. Jack says:

      Yeah, Tad bit Nippy.. For this time of year , for Me as well ! Hurry JUNE !!! ;-)

    2. Jack says:

      Fixxxer, I think it’s the Damp Wind, that makes it feel Colder, than it is Temp.Wise. Don’t Know what the Wind Chill is For Tonight. Guess I’ll Stay put, and Fire Up my FirePlace! Stay Cued and stay Warm Y’all ! ;-)

  16. Barb says:

    There’s still no doubt that the weather patterns are becoming more extreme for whatever reason.

    1. Robert (Plainwell) says:

      Nope,Barb look at the data, not just what people spout off about. Thank You.

  17. INDY says:

    Getting a flood out thee YARDofBRICKS well we have drinking water for the week’nd thanks monther nature!!!!! enjoy the morning…..INDYY..

  18. TomKap (Michigan St. & Fuller) Grand Rapids says:

    I’m not sure I see where all this ‘ice’ is going to form up north. Looks like this batch of precip will be out of here in an hour or two.

    Is there supposed to be another downpour later? I’m not a meteorologist (nor do I play one on TV) but I just don’t see this happening….unless the temp drops significantly in the next 30 minutes or so.

  19. Vincent(N.E.Kent CO) says:

    Bill nailed the rain after 2am. I stepped out at 2:10am and it was raining good. Since then it has been raining horseshoes and rabbits. I am down to 34.9° now. Water is rising and the grass is greening. Temps suck! When it warms up it will feel soo good.

  20. TomKap (Michigan St. & Fuller) Grand Rapids says:

    Everywhere (except one city) in Michigan is currently above freezing.

  21. GunLakeDeb says:

    NOAA’s map for western Michigan Hydrology, is beginning to look like a Christmas Tree, with yellow (Flood Alert Stage) and orange (Minor Flood) lights sprinkled through the middle….

  22. Kevin(Rockford) says:

    Received another .5+ overnight, bringing the total up to 3.22 since monday. Rockford dam is thundering whitewater

  23. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

    I give the GFS until next Monday before it changes the snow forecast on the morning of the 19th to just plain Jane cold rain.

  24. Jeff(Northern Ionia County / Muir) says:

    Its pouring in Ionia right now!!!

  25. Jack says:


    1. GunLakeDeb says:

      Amen, Jack – makes me want to listen to “Comfortably Numb” over and over and over……

  26. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    Oh how I wish all of this rain was actually SNOW! Well I see fixxxer and all of the warm weather nuts were wrong again! The NWS is using the word SNOW about six times in the their forecast for GR. Yes, fixxxer it will be SNOWING in GR and we are still entrenched in a COLD pattern! We have plenty of chances for more SNOW before this month is over! GET USED TO IT!!!!

    1. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

      Why couldn’t we get this storm track in January?

      1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

        Yes, that would have been AWESOME!

  27. Dan says:

    Because its west Michigan that is why the storm track wouldn’t set up this way in January! How much rain has fallen in the last couple of days, are we approaching 3 inches of rain fall? This weather will change! It may take a little bit but, I bet we get right into 80 degree weather in a few weeks!
    Then, everything will be just a sprouting and turning green everywhere!
    Although, before I get too far ahead, is it true there is another snow storm on the horizon for April 22nd?

    1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

      SNOWSTORM you say – we have chances for accumulating SNOW on the 19th, 22nd, 24th and the 25th! Like I stated 2 and 3 weeks ago “there will not be any warm Spring weather till May”. I don not plan on golfing this year till May and I might try skiing on May 4th, just so I can say I skied in MI in the month of May! Simply FANTASTIC and keep the COLD and SNOW ROCKING!!!!!

  28. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    >>>>>>>> LATE BREAKING WEATHER PREDICTION>>>>>>>> GR will not see a temperature above 60 degrees the rest of this month! Amazing!

    1. Jack says:


    2. goaway says:

      :( Not fair. Stop rubbing it in our faces.

  29. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

    Snowing enough to cover things in Big Rapids! Check out the webcam…

    1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

      A little SNOW is starting to mix in with the rain here! Who knew? How can this be?

  30. Bobby (Ada) says:

    It will hit 60 on Monday 4/15!!!!

    1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

      Ya right, where have I heard that before! Here we go with some more totally inaccurate predictions! Mark it down people – it will not hit 60 degrees in GR on Monday!

      1. Mark says:

        If the weather is going to be this bad anyway, I hope we stop at 59 on Monday. Let’s go for the record of latest 60-degree day ever. Wheeee!!

  31. Kevin(Rockford) says:

    3.53″ for the week – and being my nerd self…took a quick video of the Rockford Dam today.

  32. Brent - Zeeland says:

    Just checked my rain gauge. 4 inches of rain since Monday morning. Glad this wasn’t snow. Squish, squish, squish in my yard. I have usually mowed my lawn for the 1st time by now. This will be my latest start.

  33. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

    We finally put our rain gauge out last night, and we’ve received 1.5″ since last night. Unsure of how much rain we received Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday though. With all of the snow melt, and rain this week we should have an abundance of May flowers this year!

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