Great Lakes Water Levels

July 11th, 2013 at 9:02 pm by under Bill's Blog, News, Weather

Lake Michigan sunset jack Martin   Lake Michigan sunset from Jack Martin.  Click the pic. or click here to enlarge.   Great Lakes water levels continue their upward climb.  Lake Michigan/Huron is up 3″ in the last month and is now up 3″ higher than it was one year ago.   The lake is still 18″ below the century average, but it’s 13″ above the lowest July level reached in 1964.  Lake Superior is up 4″ in the last month and is now 2″ above the level of one year ago.  Superior is 6″ below the century average, but 15″ above the lowest July level in 1926.   Lake Erie is up 5″ in the last month and up 7″ in the past year.  Erie is one inch ABOVE the century average.    Lake Ontario is up 3″ in the past month and is up a whopping 14″ in the last year.  Ontario is now 7″ ABOVE the long-term average.  Lake St. Clair is up 5″ in the past month, up 6″ in the last year and is 2″ below the long-term average.

Now, permit me to make a comment about discernment.  Go here and read this article.  The article was published July 9, 2013, just a couple days ago.  The article is entitled “Great Lakes Water Levels Hit Record Lows”.   The article goes on to say:  “According to recent reports from hydrologists and shipping companies, the Great Lakes are experiencing record low water levels that have persisted since January.”  and it says:  “Even more frightening is what the water levels suggest about the impact of climate change on our region.”

Reread my first paragraph, where I have current Great Lakes Water Levels, taken (as any reporter could do instantly from the web) from the Army Corps of Engineers Weekly Bulletin here.  Note that both Lake Ontario and Lake Erie are now ABOVE the long-term average level.    The writer of the WMEAC article does not give any figures, only referring to “reports” from unnamed “hydrologists” and “shipping companies”.   I would hope that any hydrologist cited as an expert on Great Lakes Water Levels would be up-to-date on the latest level data.   Perhaps these are not so recent “reports”.  One lake (for lake level purposes), Lake Michigan/Huron set a low record level for the date from late December to early February.   Since then, the lake has seen a remarkable increase in water level.   On Jan. 1, 2013, Lake Michigan/Huron was 18″ BELOW Chart Datum.  Today, Lake Michigan/Huron is 3″ ABOVE Chart Datum and 13″ higher than it was in July 1964.   The other Great Lakes have NOT set record levels recently (Lake Superior tied their lowest level briefly this winter, but that lake has also made a remarkable recovery and is now only 6″ below the average level).   Check out the long-term graph of the water level of Lake Michigan/Huron, keeping in mind that we are now 13″ higher than 1964.  The lake level has gone up and down (highest level in 1986) and bears no correlation to the graph of the increase in CO2 in the Earth’s atmosphere.

This article is not unique.  This story has recently been on the major TV networks (this NBC report is from June 18th.  Brian Williams says “The Great Lakes are low and getting lower” – Getting Lower???  In recent months they’ve been getting higher!  Anne Thompson is on a ship in Lake Erie, where the water level is ABOVE AVERAGE.  The ship captain cites the St. Mary’s River, which drains water from Lake Superior, but Lake Superior has had it’s 2nd greatest spring rise in lake level in the last 95 years!) and in the NY Times (note the article is from June – but the picture is older – no leaves on the trees).

The WMEAC article and the others make no mention of dredging of the St. Clair River being a factor in lower the water level of Lake Michigan/Huron.  Read this article (from the Milwaukee Journal) and this article from Weather Underground.  The Milwaukee Journal article says:  “The St. Clair has been heavily dredged for over a century, and the federal government has long acknowledged that this human meddling in the riverbed has led to a permanent drop of about 16 inches from Michigan and Huron’s long-term average.”  “Alarmed by the fact that even the lakes’ peak levels had been below that average line for several years, a Canadian conservation group created by property owners from northern Lake Huron’s Georgian Bay hired its own engineering firm to conduct a study of what was going on in the St. Clair River back in 2004. That study said the water lost from the lakes by expanding the river channel was actually much greater than 16 inches – and getting worse.”     The Weather Underground article says:  “…studies have shown that Huron and Michigan fell by 10 to 16 inches because of dredging over the years to deepen the navigational channel in the St. Clair River, most recently in the 1960s.”   So, if Lake Michigan/Huron is 18″ below the century average, then dredging could account for the vast majority of that decrease (Note that the downstream lakes – Erie and Ontario – are ABOVE average level.

Again, the last line of the WMEAC article is “Even more frightening is what the water levels suggest about the impact of climate change on our region.”   Looking at the data, the long-term hydrographs and the dredging factor,  both the objective scientist and the casual observer would have to question the “frightening” role of climate change in Great Lakes water levels.

93 Responses to “Great Lakes Water Levels”

  1. Robert says:

    Thank you for always bringing honest data to show the liberal agenda with these articles. It is amazing how many people are fooled by this……

  2. Steve W. says:

    Nicely done Bill. Exposing these media fallacies is very important to demonstrate the fact that there is bias within the media. Hopefully the more instances like this are brought to light the more people will “trust but verify” and not blindly believe what they hear and see.

  3. Jack says:

    First, Another BEAUTY, Mr. Jack Martin !!! Also, Bill My Friends in Canada, told me That Canada, Continues To Sell Water From Lake Superior. Any Truth To That Statement ??? Staying Cued…. Gang… ;-)

  4. Jack Martin says:

    Thank You Bill, Happy to see You telling it the way it is! The levels are indeed up and that is the bottom line!

  5. Tim (Spring Lake) says:

    I love it Bill!!! Keep on getting the truth out, as too many news outlets would rather push their agenda than actually investigate things and find the truth! You might want to share this info with your friends at Wood radio, as they reported a story today on one of their news breaks about the “record low lake levels” and their effect on marinas. I almost coughed up my lunch as they were claiming the lake levels were lower than last year.

  6. DF (SE Mich) says:

    I’ve been bringing this same thing up to Ann Arborites for a while :) Nicely done.

  7. Brad says:

    Folks, the author of that article is a 2013 college graduate who is currently an intern writer for WMEAC, an activist organization. The hyperbole about the liberal media is unwarranted. I see this sort of thing quite frequently these days, in a different field. I’m not sure what journalism education entails but analysis, synthesis, and expertise in a field of study do not seem to be emphasized.

    1. Dan says:

      C’mon Brad! Hyperbole about the liberal media. Do you sincerely think the media report the truth? Frequently, they have very little in the way of substance. Journalism is about what sells and who is paying ! You think they are going to tell you the analysis, synthesis and expertise regarding the story? As far as the author of the article, why not read to see if what he says is warranted. Why so flippantly discredit what he is saying?. Brad you are much smarter than this!

      1. Brad says:

        Um, Dan, Bill was the one discrediting the author. I’m with Bill on scrutinizing this kind of thing. My comments were for those who cannot understand seemingly anything without retreating to the mental vault of cliched political narratives.

        1. Jordan (Twin Lake) says:

          you have to excuse dan hes slow.

        2. Dan says:

          Again with the insults and name calling? Wow, Jordan you are very impressive. Not! I could somewhat understand your plight if you had something of substance to post about. Certainly I could understand that you are not happy with your situation. By the way , it should be he’s not, hes Who is slow. Have a nice life Jordan!

  8. Jack says:

    Listening To, The Great Lakes Song!!! CUE::::: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S96myaj2GgM.

  9. Mike M. says:

    Do not challenge the narrative, heretic! Besides, how’s a greedy green organization supposed to raise money and increase membership without some manufactured crisis? Do you have something against someone making a buck, Bill?

    1. GunLakeDeb says:

      ROFLMAO!!!! That Bill IS a rebel ;-)

    2. JackII says:

      This is precisely what WMEAC does …. When we had the floods, they took all the credit for volunteers coming out to sand bag. I brought a group of ten people out to help sand bag at the request of the City. My volunteers had nothing to do with WMEAC, yet WMEAC flagrantly posted photos of my group filling sand bags with captions about WMEAC volunteers rising to the occasion.

  10. Ty L. says:

    I love how people like to blame things on something. If you read one article and go oh that’s why, then you are to blame, not the article. I always read from multiple sources and draw my own conclusions, it is called informing yourself.

    Anyone writing anything has a bias on something, or has their own agenda they want to get across. This has always been, and always will be.

    Inform yourself, and quit blaming the media.

    1. Mark (East Lansing) says:

      Nicely put.

    2. mart (gr) says:

      best comment ever

  11. Stacsh says:

    Right wingers have their own agenda as do left wingers. I’ll take the majority of scientists over a very small percentage of politically motivated ones.

    1. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

      While there are some who will deny it “special interest” makes the world go round. So yes in our little way we all have our “ own agenda” its just that if we do not agree with someone their agenda becomes a problem (for us)
      Just think how boring one would be if we all had the same beliefs and thoughts???
      SlimJim

    2. Daniel G says:

      YES.
      Its amazing how anything about weather change is called LIBERAL. I am a liberal but I ALWAYS look with a skeptical eye at any story about climate change be they liberal or conservative. I do not throw the baby out with the bathwater either way. THINGS ARE HAPPENING and while I beleive in a human lifetime, being infintesimally small in a world view, cannot give a true look into climate…heck in GRR we only go back what…120 years…SOMETHING is going on rather we like it or not. Hide your head in the sand…we will probably be dead anyway…but read, listen, decide. Don’t just say that its LIBERAL MEDIA HYPE….thats the simpletons way out.

      1. Bill Steffen says:

        FYI – the decade of the 1930s was one degree warmer in G.R. than the decade of the 2000s.

      2. big Daddy BC says:

        Oh, but that’s not true of the globe…and God bless you, Bill, for exposing the democrats as climate profiteers. Those repubs (Big Oil, Big Coal, Corporate Everything) are definitely in it for we the little guys. I hate to see Exxon get taken advantage of. LOL What a service you do for our children.

        I do think it’s funny that you blame the disappearing water on dredging. Has that problem been fixed? Is that why the lake levels have risen over last year? Hardly.

        1. Bill Steffen says:

          Right…end “corporations” and let the government run everything! They can’t get a dumpster out of the Grand River!! Our children are in much greater peril from a 17 TRILLION dollar debt than a dubious one-degree rise in global temperature.

          You really ought to read the post before you make foolish comments. From the Milwaukee Journal article: “The St. Clair has been heavily dredged for over a century, and the federal government has long acknowledged that this human meddling in the riverbed has led to a permanent drop of about 16 inches from Michigan and Huron’s long-term average.”

          Since the lake is now 18″ below average…a 16″ difference would mean the lake is just 2″ from the average level…and the lake level has no statistical relation to atmospheric CO2.

        2. mart (gr) says:

          I don’t have much trust in the government but they would do a better job of running things if they were not completely bought by corporations.

  12. Cliff (Scotts) says:

    Seen that on tv back in June with Brian Williams. Bad news is the only news now a days. Whatever can bring in more viewers.

  13. Paul S says:

    Personally, I think we are giving the national media a lot more credit than they deserve by making it a left wing or right wing political agenda. It’s really all about ratings. With the heat out west, anything global warming is a story. Make it sound like the great lakes are evaporating away, and you can sensationalize it for ratings. But with all the 24x7x365 cable news channels and Internet websites, they do not have the luxury of fact checking everything if they want to be first with the story.

    1. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

      There is a good chance that the next week here in Michigan is going to be rather hot and more humid then it has been. With the highs in the low to mid 90’s and low around 70 or so you will see all of the local TV stations led off the news with how “HOT” it is and how to keep “COOL” it happens nearly ever summer and come next winter the same will happen when it gets cold or we get a good snowstorm. Its just the way it is.
      SlimJim

    2. Steve W. says:

      You have a very valid point Paul. I do believe this is a big factor. But, I think the ratings and politics are also closely related. What connects the two?… Money. With ratings also look for the money trail. With the money trail look to “Mr. Spooky Dude” George Soros and see where his money or organizations are influencing. My guess is you would find a path straight to outlets persuading public opinion in subjects that Mr. Soros is heavily invested in.

      1. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

        Money is power and if some one has money and wants to influence their beliefs on others they (the owners of the money) will use that money to do so. Its been that way for many years and it not about to chance.
        SlimJim

      2. Daniel G says:

        Yeah, drag out the bugabooo of the right George Soros. All his money…good god man give THAT a rest. Look who owns the networks…General Electric owns NBC. Now do you think the maker of electrical generating equipment on a massive scale is letting their company go down the liberal tubes???

        1. Mike M. says:

          The Koch brothers are relentlessly demonized by the Left, far more than Soros is by the Right. Would you like to see how irrational the view of the Kochs is? Here’s a former Cabinet Secretary accusing them of treason…

          http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-reich/an-impertinent-question_b_3582032.html

          Mind you, he presents zero evidence to back up this insane charge. But hey, it’s useful to distract from Soros, the currency crasher and Nazi collaborator.

        2. big Daddy BC says:

          The Koch brothers demonize themselves.

          http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-greenwald/koch-brothers-bought-amer_b_3224747.html

          “the Koch brothers have financial agreements with over 150 colleges and universities. In return, the university sometimes signs a contract that says it will share the view of the Koch brothers. These agreements influence who the professors are and what they teach in the classroom, effectively turning universities into propaganda machines that spread the Koch’s regressive ideology.”

        3. Bill Steffen says:

          Y2K!! BIRD FLU!! CHEMTRAILS!! MAYAN CALENDAR!! SWINE FLU!! SARS!! MAD COW DISEASE!! GLOBAL WARMING!! RUSSIANS CONTROL THE WEATHER! KOCH BROTHERS!!

          We’re not buying your unsubstantiated and special-interest driven hype.

  14. ~Sherry~ (Comstock Park) says:

    That is a gorgeous pic!!

  15. Daniel G says:

    http://news.yahoo.com/why-southwest-keeps-seeing-droughts-130431600.html
    Any comments Bill. Doesn’t look like it was written by an intern either.

    1. Bill Steffen says:

      The author correctly puts the cause of the Southwest drought on the cold PDO and more frequent La Ninas, which bring dry conditions to the already dry Southwest (it’s a desert, called the Sonoran Desert…typical of other deserts around 30 degrees latitude): http://www.srh.noaa.gov/images/tbw/nino/nawintergraphics.gif

      The Earth is not warming, that’s a fact: http://icecap.us/images/uploads/Screen_shot_2013-06-15_at_9.01.22_AM.png Global temperatures have been flat. Weather stations in the Southwest have been influenced by urbanization: http://www.seafriends.org.nz/issues/global/goodridge_1996_ca-uhi_county.jpg Look at the population growth in Las Vegas: http://www.lvwash.org/assets/images/important_history_development_chart.gif The added heat from the city (asphalt, concrete, added water vapor – the most prominent greenhouse gas) means Las Vegas may never set another record low temperature.

      1. Daniel G says:

        Thanks for giving it a look Bill. Appreciate that.

      2. Stacsh says:

        So wait you are saying man is changing climate? And weather ???

        1. Bill Steffen says:

          Sure, on a local level (urbanization) and a regional level (land use), but it has yet to be proven that CO2 is anything more than a minor player in global temperature. Dr. Judith Curry notes the obvious when she states that the climate models are “deeply flawed” http://icecap.us/images/uploads/CMIP5-global-LT-vs-UAH-and-RSS.png

  16. Jim says:

    Great post. One request, please tell my son it is okay to flush.

  17. Jordan (Twin Lake) says:

    Fixxxer needs to post a new link!

  18. Judy says:

    Bill…..there was someting about this on CBS about 2-3 weeks ago, and I was irritated that they could be saying such things when you have reported that lake levels are up and are not at any kind of record low. What they didn’t bother to tell people was that they were interviewing a ship captain in a HARBOR (not in the lake itself), and YES, harbor channels fill up with silt from the rivers and also sand depositing from wave action. Those harbor channels need to be dredged sometimes in order to keep them deep enough for shipping. The sad thing is that so many people just believe everything that the mainstream media feeds them without looking into things themselves. I call them Sheeple….they’ll believe whatever the mainstream media tells them, regardless of whether it is true or not.

    1. Brad says:

      Just like those sheeple who believe all of the hyperbole about the “mainstream media.” It reminds me of the schoolkids who try to be “alternative” by wearing clothes they purchased at the “punk” store across the mall from Abercrombie and Fitch.

  19. DF (SE Mich) says:

    I hadn’t realized that Detroit hasn’t had a 90° day either, wow!
    http://www.crh.noaa.gov/news/display_cmsstory.php?wfo=dtx&storyid=95981&source=0

  20. Paul says:

    So is George Zimmerman guilty or not guilty?

    1. Teresa says:

      that’s a tough one.

    2. Jack says:

      I don’t Know, but I do Know. I’d Hate to a Juror ! Stay cued..

    3. Cort S. says:

      Mutual assumptions, mutual misunderstanding, mutual fear for safety despite neither originally having intent to harm, mutual retaliation in fear for life. Sounds like one huge misunderstanding which unfortunately left one dead. Not an easy case, because both individuals probably feared for their safety at different moments that night, which led to a feedback loop of escalating violence for self-preservation. But Zimmerman made the choice to pursue, which really set off the whole chain of events, so there may be some liability there. How much liability, I don’t know.

      1. TrippedUpDaddy says:

        Tough to say that he’s guilty of murder, since you have to prove intent at the start. Manslaughter? Maybe.

        Most likely, it is just as you said. Martin decided to “Stand his ground” when cornered and threatened. That in turn led to Zimmerman “Standing his ground” and the tragedy that followed. Most likely he gets a not guilty in criminal case for murder, but put through the wringer when the wrongful death civil suit hits him.

      2. Paul says:

        One thing is for sure, that regardless of the verdict on the criminal charges, he will be sued by the Martin’s. Remember he has that fat “Legal Defense Fund”, of course that’s if the lawyers don’t eat it all up first.

      3. cbm says:

        He is not guilty the other guy is a thug. or was a thug. They have no respect for our life or property. There I said it please don’t ban me lol.

        1. Mark (East Lansing) says:

          Who are “They?”

    4. Rocky (Rockford) says:

      100% guilty of 2nd degree murder. There is no doubt about it. He is guilty as sin and not only do I not have a reasonable doubt I have absolutely zero doubt!

    5. Mark (East Lansing) says:

      He is guilty of causing that young man’s death. Had Zimmerman not pursued him, as repeatedly instructed by the 911 operator, then he would not be in this situation and a young man would still be alive.

      1. Bill Steffen says:

        2nd degree murder? But OJ’s innocent? You have to PROVE 2nd degree murder “beyond a reasonable doubt”. They’ll be lucky to get a manslaughter conviction. They ought to be prosecuting the union goons that attacked the poor African-American with the hot dog cart at the Capitol in Lansing: http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/lawsuit-filed-in-tent-incident-on-the-capitol-lawn

        1. Mark (East Lansing) says:

          I did not specify the charge. If he walks on the criminal charge, the Martin’s will get him in civil court. The fact remains that a young man is dead because of Zimmerman’s actions.

        2. Paul says:

          And George Zimmerman would be dead if had not shot Treyvon Martin in self defense. By the way Mark, 17 years old is not a “young man”, that little ploy by the prosecution was a last ditch effort to sway the jury down a road of stupidity. Martin had the clear advantage physically over Zimmerman, he is 6 inches taller and was on top of Zimmerman beating his head into the concrete. Zimmerman, like anyone else who wants to survive would use the only advantage that he had to live, a gun.

        3. Mark (East Lansing) says:

          How would Zimmerman be dead? You do realize that Zimmerman initiated the confrontation. Self defense only applies when you are defending yourself.

        4. Paul says:

          Mark, you’re not informed on this case, so you’re probably not worth debating about it. But…Martin initiated the contact by hitting Zimmerman first and if Martin would’ve keep hitting Zimmerman’s head into the concrete, I doubt Zimmerman would’ve survived. Common sense goes a long way.

        5. Mark (East Lansing) says:

          Simply put, you are wrong. If Zimmerman had not followed Martin (AS INSTRUCTED BY THE 911 OPERATOR) and allowed the police to handle it, the confrontation would have never occurred and Martin would not be dead.

        6. Paul says:

          Simply put, Martin should’ve gone home and not hit Zimmerman in the head. You really need to learn your facts and then debate.

          That’s precisely why the jurors in this case found Zimmerman “Not Guilty”, case closed.

        7. Mark (East Lansing) says:

          *shakes head*

          Zimmerman should have left him alone and none of this would’ve happened.

  21. GunLakeDeb says:

    I was hoping the article would tell what marina that photo shows? When I see docks built that high, I have to assume it was remodeled in the mid-80′s?? When the lake levels were crazy-high and lakefront houses were falling down sand dunes and some marinas had to add “upper docks” because the regular docks were under water….

  22. Chuck says:

    Nicely done, Bill! It’s good to have an intelligent guy who does his research AND gets it right when he presents his facts. As the saying goes: “’tis better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool, then open it and remove all doubt”. That’s what it looks like some of these people have done here. What I love most about your report is that not once, no, not one time did I see the use of the word “ISSUE”. That God-awful word that is so over-used and beaten to death these days, it just drives me nuts as a retired English teacher. Thank you for that.

    1. big Daddy BC says:

      “intelligent” ??? You mean brainwashed, duped, bought and paid for…???

      1. Paul says:

        bdbc, you’re such a whiny little bitch.

  23. Stacsh says:

    Let me guess the economy is awful too? 116.5 billion surplus in June. Isn’t that what’s most important to right wingers?

    1. Mike M. says:

      No, it’s the $16.7 trillion dollar national debt that worries us. You lefties must be digging this: the number of people receiving food aid from the federal government now outnumbers the total number of full time private sector employees…

      http://cnsnews.com/news/article/101m-get-food-aid-federal-gov-t-outnumber-full-time-private-sector-workers

      Your Cloward-Piven strategy is coming closer to fruition.

      1. Stacsh says:

        You mean all the right wingers likeRomney that receive more in government tax breaks like the oil companies too? Explain that? More than all the poor that get handouts combined. Where’s the outrage??? Sorry good economy news is bad for republicans knowing how much you hate the country unless a republican is president.

        1. Mike M. says:

          Got any facts to back up your claims or is this just another left-wing fever dream?

        2. Mark (East Lansing) says:

          Romney (uber rich) paid something like 13% in taxes.

          I (barely middle class) paid 26% in taxes.

          Everyone should pay the same percentage.

        3. Bill Steffen says:

          Gore, more “uber rich” than Romney (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/08/al-gore-mitt-romney_n_2432534.html). But to leftist hypocrites…Gore can keep his $$. Romney paid all the tax that was due (and overall it was MORE than 13%). Look at all the Democrats who are known tax cheats! http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/04/15/the-daily-beast-ranks-the-party-democratic-or-republican-with-the-most-tax-cheats.html inc. the Secretary of the Treasury!

        4. Mark (East Lansing) says:

          I only used Mitt as an example because he was part of the above discussion. There are wealthy folks on both sides of the aisle. I never said that how little they pay in taxes is illegal. Just because something is legal, doesn’t make it fair and just.

        5. Brad says:

          A WOOD-TV employee joked last year that Bill was known as Willard “Mitt” Steffen around the office last year because he came into work every day with the latest campaign talking points.

        6. Dan says:

          Yep food stamp and hand out President! Lets send some more money to the Egyptian Brotherhood . Obama should resign now. How about the US ambassador’s death? How about IRS scandal? How about closing some additional military bases or drawing the troops down? This President doesn’t have a clue. The media covers it up so the average American citizen has no idea . Don’t even get me started on Obamacare…..

        7. Mark (East Lansing) says:

          ^ really funny ^

        8. big Daddy BC says:

          LOL, Brad!!

  24. Jack says:

    Off Topic Kinda, What absolutely Wonder Day, Weather ~ Wise in Detriot, for Tiger Baseball !! Nice 2 See The Bats Tonight HEAT- UP ( weather Term ), Just Like The HEAT- WAVE(weather term ,again ) !! That it Is on The Horizion, for all of Us, Here in The GREAT- LAKE State. Go- Tigers, stay cued, And Last but not Least. I Love MICHIGAN, and Her 4 Seasons. Peace, Gang !! And Have a Marvelous Weekend !! In The Great OUTDOORS……….. ;-)

  25. Dan says:

    That’s right Jack! Go Tigers! They need to take this series from the Rangers! then, it’s the all star break!

  26. A Responsible Journalist says:

    Wow! A HUGE loss of respect for WOTV — and those affiliated with it today — for enforcing no journalistic standards of behavior. Where is the station ombudsman, as an official representative assaults the public politically? Where is the station manager, as one of its staff goes on a drunken binge?

    Bill Steffen: stick to YOUR business. Obviously you’re no journalist — but rants like yours DO harm our professional standing. While representing your employers, keep your political positions to yourself. It’s tragic to see you feeding the trolls this way — just damn downright ugly. What a sad day for WOTV, and all those who served it well in the past :(

    1. Bill Steffen says:

      Responsible journalist, eh? Then why not lend some credibility to your claim by identifying yourself? Journalistic standards? How about NBC editing the Treyvon Martin tape, or Dan Rather and Mary Mapes at CBS trying to throw a Presidential election showing an easily disproven “National Guard” memo. I noticed you didn’t present a single fact to dispute anything I said.

      1. A Responsible Journalist says:

        I needn’t name myself to call attention to your grossly inappropriate behavior. I suspect you know, as well as I do, that what you said and did in this thread was entirely unacceptable.

        The facts, regarding climate, are readily available. I needn’t debate them with you. It is clear that your extreme political stance would prevent you from accepting them, even if you sought them.

        That is very sad — for you, and for your viewers. It is not quite as sad as what you’re doing to your ~profession~ — but sad nonetheless.

        1. Jack says:

          I think it’s important to be aware that WMEAC is a radical environmentalist group which uses what ever ammunition they can to fuel their agenda. It is best to take any of their propaganda with a grain of salt. This blog writer is a high school graduate volunteer working on a journalism degree. WMEAC doesn’t have any professional scientists to proof these kids’ writing content … these unpaid interns are supervised by WMEAC staff with a high school degree, but call themselves journalists. Take a look at some of the other blogs WMEAC puts out there …. they’re more proud of their staff becoming ‘eligible bachelors’ than highlighting valid credentials. Best not to take this environmental group too serious, but take them for what they are … a group of scientifically-uneducated environmentalists and volunteers.

        2. Bill Steffen says:

          Of course you won’t “name yourself”. If you did we could find whether you are a “responsible journalist”; better to fling arrows anonymously from the bushes. You’re entitled to your opinion, but you have yet to challenge anything I presented in this thread. I’ve given clear examples of lax journalism.

  27. JackII says:

    I think it’s important to be aware that WMEAC is a radical environmentalist group which uses what ever ammunition they can to fuel their agenda. It is best to take any of their propaganda with a grain of salt. This blog writer is a high school graduate volunteer working on a journalism degree. WMEAC doesn’t have any professional scientists to proof these kids’ writing content … these unpaid interns are supervised by WMEAC staff with a high school degree, but call themselves journalists. Take a look at some of the other blogs WMEAC puts out there …. they’re more proud of their staff becoming ‘eligible bachelors’ than highlighting valid credentials. Best not to take this environmental group too serious, but take them for what they are … a group of scientifically-uneducated environmentalists and volunteers.

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