Tropical Storm Heading Toward Hawaii

July 28th, 2013 at 2:54 am by under Bill's Blog, News, Weather

hawaii  hurricane palm tree nbcnews  A Tropical Storm Watch was up for much of Hawaii.  Tropical Storm Flossie weakened to a tropical depression as it hit the Big Island of Hawaii.     There’s was a Flash Flood Watch for all of Hawaii.  Here’s the last Forecast Advisory, Public Advisory and the Forecast Discussion on the storm.  Here’s the latest visible satellite loop and the Funktop satellite loop of the area.   This was a minimal tropical storm or strong tropical depression (winds less than 40 mph) as it passed the islands.  The greatest threat was be heavy rain and local flooding.  There was only one report of wind damage on the Big Island.  Here’s a list of hurricanes/tropical storms to affect Hawaii.  Strong hurricanes are rare in Hawaii.  The last and most significant was Iniki in 1992.  Iniki was passed well south of the eastern Hawaiian Islands then made a right turn and moved north quickly, having little time to weaken before striking the western island of Kauai, where it did nearly 2 billion dollars in damage. (pictures from NOAA and NBC News)

66 Responses to “Tropical Storm Heading Toward Hawaii”

  1. Ron Bailey says:

    Thanks for the heads up, I would not have known about this one. The communication on the Big Island is not great.

  2. Daniel G says:

    I will assume the Hookie Lao is cancelled then???

  3. Nathan says:

    Bad crash just east of Ann Arbor…

    1. Nathan says:

      Good news: rescue crews coming… Bad news: the car is smashed

  4. YeahThatDan says:

    A tropical storm. In Hawaii! Wow. I wonder if it will hit California. Maybe! But we will see. Cool day out there. Are the Lions playing? It feels like time for football! But the Tigers are doing well. I think we will warm up. I saw 80′s this week! That will feel good. I love summer!

  5. Daniel G says:

    Wonder if it will hit California??? Thats like saying a snowstorm in Maine might hit Florida? They are thousands of miles apart man!

    1. Paul says:

      Funny, Daniel! Go easy! He might have typed that in his sleep. LMAO

    1. DF (SE Mich) says:


      1. big Daddy BC says:

        Hey, Dire, you realize that Exxon funds Climate Depot, right? I’m not sure michael knows or cares. In fact, I half suspect that michael’s an intern for WOOD or Bill’s nephew or something.

        “ is being financed by the Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow, a nonprofit in Washington that advocates for free-market solutions to environmental issues. Public tax filings for 2003-7 (the last five years for which documents are available) show that the Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow received hundreds of thousands of dollars from the ExxonMobil Foundation and foundations associated with the billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife…”

        1. Bill Steffen says:

          Hey bigDaddy – you’re the one who lies and puts out misinformation!! Romney isn’t a polygamist and I don’t drive a Tahoe!! You can’t disagree with the facts, the data.

          Check this out everybody:

          1) The North Polar region – above 80 degrees latitude is having their coldest summer EVER (since records began in 1958):

          2) The Antarctic icecap has reached a RECORD daily extent:

          3) The global ACE index shows less than half the tropical energy globally for late July. Tropical Cyclone activity has trended downward now for 7 years. We’ve not gone the longest period of time in history (going back to 1851) since a category 3 or higher hurricane has hit the U.S.

          4) The global temperature anomaly for July 1-28 is at -0.115C and for the continental U.S., it’s at -0.262C

          5) You’ll need your snow shovel in November.

        2. big Daddy BC says:

          LOL I couldn’t care less what you drive, Magoo. But I’m sure with your six figure salary, you could afford to drive an H1 if you wanted. Isn’t it time for another vacation?

          I like number 5. Are you predicting a snowy November? Remember your “Shovel Ready?” seasonal forecast from last year? Winter started in late January. How about the ‘cooler summer’ you predicted last year that turned into the hottest summer on record?! LOL I guess a blind pig finds a truffle once in a while. Maybe you’ll get lucky this winter.

          Number 2 from your list is hilarious too. Read this:

          Number 3, in the wake of Sandy, is a good one too.

          Keep on sellin’ the corporate line, Bill.

        3. Bill Steffen says:

          If you don’t care what I drive…why lie about it?

          My winter snowfall forecast for 2012-13 was only off by ONE INCH:

          Sandy was a minimal hurricane, a Category 1 (5 is strongest, 1 is weakest on the Saffir-Simpson Scale) when it hit land: The European model showed where the storm was going several days out and people should have moved away from the coast. The Sandy relief bill was over 50 BILLION dollars, more than the budget of the entire state of New Jersey! It was packed with pork, including money for fish hatcheries in Alaska!

          Last summer wasn’t the hottest on record. It wasn’t even the hottest July ever in G.R. That honor goes to July 1921. August 2012 was exactly average for temperature.

          Regarding the Antarctic – I see you and CBS have shifted from “global warming” to “climate change”. You look foolish screaming global warming when it’s very cold at BOTH poles:

          The North Polar region – above 80 degrees latitude is having their coldest summer EVER (since records began in 1958):

          2) The Antarctic icecap has reached a RECORD daily extent:

          A massive tax increase in the U.S. will not cause the Antarctic icecap to increase or decrease. If we all drove tiny, less-safe cars, it would not cause the Antarctic icecap to increase or decrease. If we taxed gasoline to $9 European levels, it would not cause the Antarctic icecap to increase or decrease. If we all used carcinogen-filled light bulbs, it would not cause the Antarctic icecap to increase or decrease. Stand up for the poor and middle class…no job-killing, economy-crashing tax increase on utility rates and gasoline!

        4. michael g (SE GR) says:

          Classic example of the shoot the messenger post, the go to technique when you can’t dispute the message.

        5. big Daddy BC says:

          Fact is, people like you and the Exxon Climate Depot team are in the business of spreading misinformation to confuse the public. I linked the Japanese Met Agency for a reason. Climate change science isn’t an American franchise. Scientists around the world agree that burning fossil fuels at the rate we have been will continue to exacerbate the crisis. True, if we stop burning coal and oil today, we’ve got decades before CO2 levels will diminish, but our children are worth it to curb pollution, despite the effects on Exxon, Walmart, and Amway. I realize you disagree and rather than taking responsibility prefer to deflect, dodge, and lie, using scare tactics like tax increases and carcinogenic light bulbs, but science disagrees with you and as long as the institution continues to corroborate the work of Hansen, Berkeley, the IPCC, NOAA, NASA, and every major university on Earth, you’ll continue to look like a corporate tool. I just hope your reputation is worth trading for the crumbs they throw ya.

        6. Bill Steffen says:

          Hansen agrees with me…global temperatures haven’t gone up in 11 years and counting: “The five-year mean global temperature has been flat for the last decade….” – James Hansen et al.

          From Dr. Judith Curry’s blog:

          The climate models you profiteers have concocted are failing big time:

          CO2 emissions in the U.S. are falling and are lower than they were 20 years ago:

          We don’t want your job-killing, economy-wrecking massive tax increases. Go tax China!

        7. big Daddy BC says:

          Go tax China? Are you kidding, then your hero D DeVos would have to pay taxes somewhere. God knows he doesn’t pay a dime in Michigan. Don’t forget, Bill, Amway’s mostly over there now and you’d be stealing the jobs DeVos sent over seas. LOL

        8. Bill Steffen says:

          DeVos pays a LOT of tax…a lot more than you. You wouldn’t have any wealth to confiscate and waste if you didn’t have people that created wealth. They’ve given a lot to this community. What have you done? You and your ilk have wasted hundreds of millions of dollars ( and ( and you’ve attacked a defenseless African-American hot dog vendor (

    2. big Daddy BC says:

      OMG You climate change deniers just keep on plugging away at the rhetoric. Climate Depot? LOL

      Uh-Oh, here comes some actual data from REAL scientists!

      “According to NOAA scientists, the globally averaged temperature for June 2013 tied with 2006 as the fifth warmest June since record keeping began in 1880. It also marked the 37th consecutive June and 340th consecutive month (more than 28 years) with a global temperature above the 20th century average. The last below-average June temperature was June 1976 and the last below-average temperature for ANY month was February 1985.”

      1. Robert(Plainwell) says:

        OMG you warmists just jump at everything and say it is climate change. Oops except it is natural variability.

        1. big Daddy BC says:

          Wouldn’t the term ‘variability’ indicate that the temp would swing up AND down, not just up?

        2. Robert(Plainwell) says:

          It is easy for noaa to say the temps have been above average when they adjust them upwards, and if that doesn’t work out good enough they just cool the past making the present look warmer.

        3. big Daddy BC says:

          Can you support that with some data, Robert? It’s easy to make accusations. What adjustments are you referring to and why? Do you believe NOAA’s in cahoots with the liberals to put carcinogen filled light bulbs in the houses of unsuspecting conservatives? Do you think NOAA’s in it for the grant money like NASA, the IPCC, the Japanese Meteorological Association, and every major university on Earth? If anything, the fact that NOAA uses a warmer (30 year) average for comparison rather than the 100 year would indicate they’re doing the exact opposite.

        4. Bill Steffen says:

          That graph that bigDaddy keeps showing is based on a 1951-1980 base average. The only reason those years are used is to show the desired alarmist conclusion. The graph would look much different if they used the current standard of 1981-2010:

        5. big Daddy BC says:

          That’s ridiculous. The graph was produced by NOAA. They use the ’81- ’10 average unless they’re using the century average which is MORE accurate. Try again.

        6. Robert(Plainwell) says:

          Here is another one for bDBC.

        7. big Daddy BC says:

          Look, Robert, my stupid friend, we all know where the steven goddard crap comes from. It’s more politically derived rhetoric. NOAA is not in cahoots with Matt Damon and Barbara Streisand to raise your energy bills. What an amazingly ridiculous thing to claim.

        8. big Daddy BC says:

          Anthony ‘never been to school’ Watts??? LOL He might be even dumber than you. …But not really.

        9. Robert(Plainwell) says:

          Typical bdbc calling people names when not everybody agrees with him.

        10. big Daddy BC says:

          Not a name, a judgement call. You have absolutely no idea what you’re even debating here. You have links to political sites and can barely muster an original thought. How about reading the crap you’re linking and then explaining it, maybe use some real-world experience to qualify your response.

        11. Robert(Plainwell) says:

          Anytime you want to debate with untampered data I will, but until then, quit your linking to lies and political data by a government agency that needs to lie about data to get funding.

        12. big Daddy BC says:

          Please support that claim in some way, any way.

        13. Robert(Plainwell) says:

          bDBC go talk to older people and ask them if the climate is any different now then back in the 30′s and 50′s. I am sure most of them will say it is the same. Go find another blog to spew your crap because I am sure Bill and everyone else is sickmof it.

        14. Bill Steffen says:

          It’s not ridiculous, bigDaddy…your graph STOPS in 2008 (it’s clearly labeled as such!), so it can’t be 1981-2010 base average! It’s based on a 1951-1980 base average. That’s done on purpose to get recent warmer temperatures. You get a much different graph if you use the universally accepted 1981-2010 climate normals: The graphic would also look flat if you used a 1911-1940 base average. In Grand Rapids, we were one degree warmer in the 1930s than we were in the 2000s. The 2000s was the snowiest decade ever in G.R.

        15. big Daddy BC says:

          Nonsense. The most accurate average to compare to is the century average. The more recent the average, the warmer it will be, therefore any discussion on climate is skewed.

        16. Bill Steffen says:

          Then you agree that using 1951-1980 as a base average is wrong. Good. Let’s look at the century average:

          Read this:

          It was one degree warmer in G.R. in the 1930s than it was in the 2000s.

        17. Paul says:

          Watch out people the “Duct Tape Princess” (bdbc) is out for your sons!!! It’s always great to the resident cross dresser (bdbc) wowing us with his propaganda.

        18. big Daddy BC says:

          Hey, Hillbilly Paul. Back from your weekend at the County lockup? I saw you guys pickin’ up trash on I96. Awesome.

        19. Paul says:

          Nice try Duct Tape Princess (bdbc). Now get back to work, your pimp has enough trouble trying to sell your face with that smell.

  6. Bill Steffen says:

    Climate models failing BIG TIME: Dr. Judith Curry calls the climate models “deeply flawed”.

    1. big Daddy BC says:

      Honestly, Bill. Any discussion on climate science should not include political websites. Look at the list of links on the right side of that page. It’s clearly an Exxon shill. They even link Watts. LOL You truly cheapen the discussion with these types of cheap grabs. Document your claims with data not rhetoric.

      Here’s a good one from the Japanese Mets:

      1. Robert(Plainwell) says:

        Oh what is the matter bDBC, big bad oil and gas companies, even one of your guys works for one.

      2. big Daddy BC says:


        1. Robert(Plainwell) says:

          Oh now bdbc are you getting upset?

        2. big Daddy BC says:

          A little, but it’ll pass. Do me a favor and see if you can do a search for something that supports your position, but isn’t payed for by some political group. Good luck!

        3. Robert(Plainwell) says:

          Watts doesn’t receive any money from any group for his blog. He received money from the heartland institute to fund his research for his paper and that is it.

        4. Bill Steffen says:

          The blog that Anthony Watts manages is extraordinary, a labor of love that is an occupation and hobby. It’s been voted BEST SCIENCE BLOG in 2011, 2012 and 2013. I challenge anyone with an open mind to view his blog here: Read the articles and the comments and judge for yourself. Anthony has also documented the effects of urbanization and the warming of weather stations. View his work (and others) on that topic here: Note the effect of urbanization documented by the State Climatologist of California: Note that there has been very little warming at weather stations where we have not had urbanization.

          Read this from Dr. Judith Curry’s Blog:

        5. Paul says:

          Go get her or him or it Robert!

        6. big Daddy BC says:

          Watts is an uneducated stooge, just slightly less credible in this debate than Bill Steffen, but if you fellers wanna keep using blogs as scientific support for your Denier conspiracy theory, so be it. Makes you luck as ridiculous as Paul did in that orange jumpsuit this weekend. ;)

        7. Bill Steffen says:

          Watts would clean your clock. Would you agree to debate him if I got him here to G.R.?

          Read this:

        8. Paul says:

          “makes you luck”??? I see you got your “ma’s” brains you little feller. LOL

        9. bobcat says:

          Still waiting to hear if you have the guts to debate Watts. lol! I’d buy tickets….

        1. big Daddy BC says:

          No. This one doesn’t work because it’s also from Watts. Keep trying, little fella.

        2. Bill Steffen says:

          It’s easy to personally trash anyone who disagrees with you and impugn their character and motives. It requires some effort to actually discuss the evidence presented. You’ve presented no qualifications whatsoever and you have lied (saying Romney was a polygamist…and saying I drive a Tahoe). Some indisputable facts:

          1) Global temperatures have been steady for over a decade:

          No one disputes this…not even Hansen: “The five-year mean global temperature has been flat for the last decade….” – James Hansen et al.

          2) The climate models are failing: Dr. Judith Curry (head of Climate Science at Georgia Tech and a contributor to the BEST group at Berkeley) has stated that the models are “deeply flawed”

          3) Global temperatures are chillin’: July 1-28 was colder than average globally with an anomaly of -0.115 deg. C and especially so for the U.S. with an anomaly of -0.262 deg. C.

          4) The North Pole region is having the coldest summer since records began in 1958:

          5) The Antarctic icecap has never been bigger on any July 29:

          6) Second straight year, another very low tornado count in the U.S.: The number of strong tornadoes (EF3 to EF5) decreased from the 1970s to the 2000s:

          7) The number and intensity of tropical cyclones (hurricanes) has been decreasing since the mid 1990s: The U.S. has not had a major hurricane (Category 3 or higher) hit the U.S. in nearly 8 years, the longest period of time since records began in 1851:

          8) Carbon Dioxide emissions in the U.S. have been and are falling. We are now at a 20-year low:

          Anyone with an interest in climate issues should read this from Dr. Roger Pelkie Jr.:

        3. Paul says:

          Does anyone else the crickets crawling out of bdbc’s ass? lol

        4. big Daddy BC says:

          There Paul goes talking about the male ass again. At least you don’t hide your predilections, Convict.

          Bill, nice list. Let’s discuss it.

          First, I mistook your Hummer for a Tahoe. I apologize. I realize how important image is for you rich guys. I wonder how many of Mitt Romney’s wives would fit in that thing?

          Second, climate dialog is another right-wing funded site dedicated to presenting misinformation. It’s obviously confused you. That was it’s purpose. Climate models are not failing, but they are evolving. The science is new, but the data is irrefutable. It is warmer than at any time on record. NOAA says this: “the globally averaged temperature for June 2013 tied with 2006 as the fifth warmest June since record keeping began in 1880. It also marked the 37th consecutive June and 340th consecutive month (more than 28 years) with a global temperature above the 20th century average.”

          You can cherry pick quotes or exaggerate claims made by researchers, but the body of evidence overwhelmingly supports the currently accepted model.

          Antarctic Ice HAS increased. In the journal NATURE GEOSCIENCE, it’s explained this way: “The paradox is that global warming leads to more cooling and more sea ice around Antarctica,” Richard Bintanja, a climate researcher at the Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute in Utrecht, told Nature.” Of course I’ve pointed this out to you on ten different occasions now. You just ignore it.

          A cold summer at the north pole will have little impact on ice production. It’s great and everything, but will do little for the Polar bears who can’t get out on the ice due to longer falls and shorter winters. It is nice, though to see a cool summer up there. NIce break from the new norm.

          As far as tornadoes go, the overall number has increased and you know it, as has the number of casualties from twisters. Try again.

          Carbon emissions are down because your team sent so many damned jobs overseas. Overall, CO2 emissions are up. When Bush crashed our entire economy, the only benefit was less pollution as companies went under or left. Go Repubs!

        5. Bill Steffen says:

          I don’t have a HUMMER either. I own a 2004 Pontiac Vibe.

          In my last comment, I just linked to NASA, James Hansen, Dr. Judith Curry, the Danish Meteorological Institute, the University of Illinois Cryosphere, NOAA, WeatherUnderground and the Washington Post.

          Read this from the Storm Prediction Center:

          “The increase in reported tornado frequency
          during the early 1990s corresponds to the operational
          implementation of Doppler weather radars. Other non-
          meteorological factors that must be considered when
          looking at the increase in reported tornado frequency
          over the past 33 years are the advent of cellular
          telephones; the development of spotter networks by
          NWS offices, local emergency management officials,
          and local media; and population shifts.”

          We’ve got hundreds of cars chasing every significant thunderstorm now and many tornadoes are reported and counted more than once.

          Tornado fatalities have dropped, not increased:

          CO2 emissions in the U.S. are down significantly: (yeah, they’re up worldwide and what are you going to do about it?).

          You don’t have a frackin’ clue. The free market (and not you climate profiteers) has been responsible for the shift from old coal to natural gas. That’s why CO2 emissions are down in the U.S…that and cleaner cars and Nixon’s Clean Air Act.

          You have yet to show me a picture of a single polar bear that can be proved to have perished from “global warming”

          THIS IS FROM NOAA: “With increased national Doppler radar coverage, increasing population, and greater attention to tornado reporting, there has been an increase in the number of tornado reports over the past several decades. This can create a misleading appearance of an increasing trend in tornado frequency.” Source:

          Especially look at this graph from NOAA:

        6. Paul says:

          Well Duct Tape Princess, since you talk out your ass and do funny things to your own ass, I’ll leave the expertise title to you.

  7. YeahThatDan says:

    Wow! It seems, that facts are hard for some. Wake up! The facts are that there is no global warming. This is not hard to understand! I think, some who need grant money are using the media to get more. Think for yourself! The facts are out there. Wow!

  8. INDY says:


    1. Skot says:

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    2. Jack says:

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