Tied Record Low Temperature and Tornado in Italy

July 30th, 2013 at 10:43 am by under Bill's Blog, Weather

lotus flower delores reportit italy tornado nbc  This is a pretty flower at the Meijer Gardens (pic. from Delores at ReportIt).  Click here to see full screen.  Second pic. is of a tornado in Italy (from NBC).   Grand Rapids tied a daily record low temperature this morning at 50 degrees (also reached on 7/30/1965).  Other low temperatures this morning:  48 Ionia, Marshall, 47 Hastings, 46 Charlotte, Big Rapids, Hopkins, 45 Ludington, Fremont, Nunica, 44 Baldwin, 42 Houghton Lake, Grayling, 40 Bloomingdale, 36 Spincich Lake (in the U.P.). Much of the Midwest/Great Lakes has been cool.  Ottumwa IA had 3 consecutive record low temperatures in the 40s.

Other weather news:  AWESOME Tornado debris video from in and near Milan, Italy on 7/29!  Hardest hit was the town of Grezzago.  Twelve people were injured by the twister.  Here’s a list of European tornadoes.   Here’s a tornado in SE Wyoming.   (Minimal) Tropical Storm Flossie weakened into just a depression as it passed over Hawaii.  There was one report of trees/wires down and some local, relatively minor flooding.  The most rain was at Kaupo Gap with 5.27″.  Honolulu had only 0.15″.  Chanute KS had 6.97″ of rain, the wettest July day ever.  Over 5″ of rain fell at Hesston and Lindsborg, Kansas, with 3.27″ at Gage OK.  I-35 was closed due to floodwaters and some people had to be rescued by boat.  Check this out…the storms produced over 30,000 lightning strikes in 5 hours.  Lots of relatively cool weather in the U.S.  High temperatures Monday included just 64 at Norfolk NE and 66 at Sioux City IA.  Death Valley, California was the hottest spot in the U.S. Monday at 111, but ironically that was 6 degrees cooler than the average high!

Another lean day for severe weather reports.  As of 6:20 PM, we have just 9 reports of severe weather – those out in NE and SD.  One small tornado, a couple of golfball-sized hail reports and winds as high as 72 mph at Interior SD.

120 Responses to “Tied Record Low Temperature and Tornado in Italy”

  1. Nathan (Forest Hills) says:

    Wow today is a beautiful day! Upper seventies with abundant sunshine! I have been off the blog lately because there is nothing to really talk about… But hopefully the weather gets more exciting soon so we can discuss more weather topics :)

    1. DF (SE Mich) says:

      I’ve sent in one spotter report all summer over here… sad really =)

  2. Dan says:

    I saw that Edie Brickell and Steve Martin performed at Meijer Gardens! I would’ve loved to see them. The big question is does it stay cool all the way through August ? It was a very nice morning and sunrise today! This weather is perfect! Not too hot, it’s just right! Got that song from Edie Brickell , Jack?

    1. Jack says:

      Most Certainely DAN, Enjoy ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7F1d1Xyb6s. ” PICTURE PERFECT MORNING”. ;-)

  3. Skot says:

    HeY !!!! Free doughnuts in the lunch room!!!!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV4EMzyJsqU

  4. Red in Allegan Co. says:

    My husband was driving through those storms in Kansas. Just spoke with him this a.m. and he told me about them. Blew a truck over so it must’ve been some pretty intense stuff.

  5. DF (SE Mich) says:

    Does the GR NWS not issue a Record Event Report (RER) for a tied record? The Detroit NWS still hasn’t for the Flint record low tie last week. The Marquette NWS issues them for ties.

  6. Travis (Oakland County) says:

    Since Bill only brings up the cold, the rest of the planet is baking.

    China – Hottest day ever just recorded in Shanghai in unprecedented heat wave:

    http://qz.com/109678/as-chinas-heatwave-hits-104-f-in-a-slew-of-cities-people-get-creative-about-cooling-off/

    Australia – 2013 has already seen the hottest day, month and season on record, and after a warm July – about 1.5 degrees above the long-term norm – the hottest 11-month period on record.

    http://www.smh.com.au/national/figures-in-july-hotter-than-july-20130730-2qxdc.html#ixzz2aYHWyk2O

    Europe – An extreme heat wave is baking Europe, and at least five countries have a chance at setting new all-time national heat records

    1. yooper4021 says:

      Really?

    2. DF (SE Mich) says:

      Lol, only the US matters when it is hot and now only selective parts of the world matter when the US is cold… I am confused, wait, no I’m not ;)

      Europe had no summer until now, but I am sure you knew that.

      1. Mark (East Lansing) says:

        So much for us having one of the hottest Julys ever.

        Fail.

    3. Scott (robinson twsp) says:

      That’s funny because while we were baking last year the other side was setting rec lows. All in the cycle time.

    4. Mark (East Lansing) says:

      China + Australia + Europe = the rest of the planet?

      Thanks for the geography lesson.

    5. Cliff (Scotts) says:

      Half of Australia is a desert Travis, the rest of the planet is not baking tree hugger!!!

    6. michael g (SE GR) says:

      And by the “rest of the planet is baking”, I assume you mean that it’s .115* C BELOW normal? Facts really get in the way of all of your hyperbole.

    7. Bill Steffen says:

      I checked the data for the Shanghai Airport. They don’t have 7/30 on the list, but they list six consecutive days with highs of 100-102 from 7/24 thru 7/29 and they are a very significant 7.4 deg. warmer than average for July. Not all that far away, Hong Kong is just +0.7 for the month and Hong Kong (usually a very wet place in summer) has had 17.61″ of rain this month!

      I checked some cities in Australia for monthly temp. departure from average for July: Sidney +5.0 deg., Melbourne +3.1 deg., Perth -1.2 deg., Darwin +1.2., Hobart +2.1 deg.

      Europe: London _+7.5 deg., Rome -0.5 deg., Stockholm +0.2 deg., Warsaw +1.3 deg.

      the global anomaly as of 7/30 for July is -0.437C So, there are a lot of cold places http://models.weatherbell.com/climate/ncep_cfsr_t2m_anom.png (link is behind a paywall, so it probably won’t work for you. The -0.437C is from the raw IR temperature from NASA with 1981-2010 as the climate normal.

      1. big Daddy BC says:

        Weatherbell is the site of a political activist named Maue. He’s one of Limbaugh’s ‘men in the field’ so I don’t think his data is entirely unbiased. Just saying. I’ll bet you your reputation that July will be warmer than average just like every other one of the last 340 consecutive months.

        1. Bill Steffen says:

          WeatherBell repackages the raw NASA data. You can get the data and map it yourself and you’ll get the same image. The “last 340 consecutive months” is nonsense. It’s based on an artificially low average, not the currently used 1981-2010 average that is the NOAA standard climate normal (http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/normals/usnormals.html) and “adjusted”, using selected stations to arrive at a preconceived conclusion.

          Read this: http://www.epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Files.View&FileStore_id=a6df9665-e8c8-4b0f-a550-07669df48b15

        2. big Daddy BC says:

          Artificially low average? Did they take an average from the ’70s? LOL No, sir NOAA did not. You sure sound desperate. http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/news/ncdc-releases-june-2013-global-climate-report

          If Weatherbell repackages NASA’s data, why not use NASA? Hmmmm

        3. big Daddy BC says:

          wordpress vs. NOAA on climate. Hmmm. I know who I’ll trust. LOL Pathetic.

    8. big Daddy BC says:

      Have a look the last five threads, Travis. Bill’s pushing an agenda. I’m not sure if you were posting here last year, but during the hottest summer on record for the northern hemisphere, he was putting up threads about growing glaciers and all but denied we were neck deep in second worst drought in US history…lots of crap about how it was nothing compared to the dust bowl – the good old days! LOL

      1. Bill Steffen says:

        You’re the one pushing a political agenda! The drought was natural causes. Read this from the State Climatologist of Texas: “There is no evidence that climate change contributed to the lack of rainfall, because rainfall has risen over the past century in the state.”

        The drought of the mid 1930s was far worse: http://www.intellicast.com/Community/Content.aspx?a=134 http://www.siskiyous.edu/shasta/env/drought/1934in.gif

      2. big Daddy BC says:

        Here he goes again. I bet you had to walk up hill to AND from school back during the dust bowl. LOL

        Hey everyone, look. The drought continues in Texas, year three of the worst drought in Texas history. Where’s the thread on that little weather anomaly?
        http://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/

        1. Bill Steffen says:

          The drought has eased over most of Texas. Again, the STATE CLIMATOLOGIST of TEXAS says the drought has nothing to do with “global warming”: “There is no evidence that climate change contributed to the lack of rainfall, because rainfall has risen over the past century in the state.” I’d take his word over a special interest shill that has lied repeatedly with his comments on this blog.

          Go here and check out rainfall over the last 4 weeks or for June or for the year: http://water.weather.gov/precip/

        2. big Daddy BC says:

          Gee, I wonder what credentials the State Climatologist of Texas has, cousin of the brother-in-law of the Exxon VP? LOL Fact is, they’re still smack dab in the middle of the worst drought in Texas history and all you can do is deny, deny, deny.

        3. Cliff (Scotts) says:

          I blame their drought for the past three years on not even having one hurricane hit them. I thought with all this warming around the world big daddy there would be more hurricanes? Please explain the lack of hurricanes daddy!!!

        4. Bill Steffen says:

          Here’s the state climatologist of Texas, Dr. John Nielsen-Gammon. He’s a FELLOW of the American Meteorological Society.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Nielsen-Gammon

        5. Cliff (Scotts) says:

          Longest period in history without a major hurricane hitting the u.s.a is at 2,750 days and counting.

        6. big Daddy BC says:

          http://newsle.com/article/0/22002565/

          Hilarious article about Craig James from 2007. WOOD really needs to reexamine their hiring and screening practices.

        7. Bill Steffen says:

          HA! Your link is to Media Mouse??? That was pretty much Jeff Smith’s blog. Virtually no one read it and it deservedly faded into the collective culture-fog. I wonder if I could still sue him for using a WOOD-TV copyrighted picture. If you go to the link, please read my cordial comment at the bottom.

          Craig James is a FELLOW of the American Meteorological Society and a DISTINGUISHED ALUMNI of Penn State.

        8. Brad says:

          Thanks for the link to Media Mouse, bdBC. It’s not just Bill or Craig Woods either. WOOD-TV8 is rife with Right-wing activists. Look at Matt Kirkwood, Terri Deboer (hosted an essentially-but-not-officially WOOD-sponsored Dick Devos for Governor party), Joe what’s his name that left the station, Anne Schieber with the Mackinac Center for Piss-poor Policy, Rick Albin, and the list goes on. It seems a requirement for applicants to WOOD-TV to be Birchers and Tea Partiers.

        9. Brad says:

          My sources also say Lee VanAmeyde, George Lessens, and Lauren Stanton are quite the Right-wingers over at WZZM-13 too. What is it with this inbred media market?

        10. yooper4021 says:

          Brad, last I checked, this is BILL’S blog and WOOD and WZZM are private entities. If you disagree that strongly with their points-of-view or their on-air personalities, then don’t read the blog or watch their programming. Grow up and quit the name-calling.

        11. Bill Steffen says:

          Brad’s a hopeless collectivist who wants to destroy jobs and burden the poor and middle class with “$7 to $10″ a gallon gasoline. If that were to happen, it wouldn’t budge global temperature, but it would create a severe depression. That’s why his uncompassionate ilk are so far left of the mainstream. You think the Teamsters Union wants $10 a gallon gasoline? You think the UAW wants $10 a gallon gasoline? That’s why (the few) people like Brad (and Jeff Smith) need to be utterly defeated at the ballot box and marginalized in the realm of public opinion.

        12. Brad says:

          Bill, Mindy told us to cut out the name-calling. Or did that only apply to me? Mindy?

        13. Brad says:

          A collectivist who wants $10 gas and economic calamity…a weird concept. One expected benefit of more expensive gas is a higher abortion rate, which should reduce pressure on social services and welfare budgets.

        14. Bill Steffen says:

          Not much chance of you winning the Mr. Compassion Competition.

        15. Paul says:

          Bill they (bdbc, brad, mark) will win the “Jack Asses of Year” award for being a cross dresser (bdbc=duct tape princess), heretic (brad) and a angry little man (mark), lol.

        16. Dan says:

          How many truly value Brad’s opinion? He posts like a know it all. However, he could care less. He posts here to achieve one goal! He is such a pretender. Better luck with your future posts!

  7. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    Keep the below average temperatures coming!

    1. Rodey (Rockford) says:

      Keep the average temps coming. I love it. Fantastic.

  8. INDY says:

    RUN TRAVIS RUN IT’S 78* OUT TO COLD FOR U!!! INDYY…

    1. Jack says:

      SPEAKING OF RUNNING, CUE This …YE ALL:::: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO7-a39L0jU. ;-) . Loloolllloo

      1. Ned S. (Now in South Holland) says:

        Jack, you astound me with your ability to pick the right tune for the right time! Excellent!

  9. Jack says:

    Great Sleeping Weather !!!! Windows OPEN , and as INDY Says….Nice NIP in Theee AIR!!!!!! Zzzzzzzzzzz, Stay Cued…zzzzzzzzz…..SNORING… ;-)

  10. Scott (robinson twsp) says:

    I just took a nap out on the deck. Nice shade no Skeeters light wind. Now to mow the grass.

  11. Barry in Zeeland says:

    Wow, crazy tornado video there. I don’t think I would have been standing in that office room with all those windows though. I can’t believe all the flying debris didn’t smash those windows right out!

  12. Cliff (Scotts) says:

    Bill, what would bring the chance of some showers to pop up overnight around I-94 area that showed up earlier on future cast around 2am?

    1. Kimoeagle says:

      Well, Cliff, in about an hour, you’ll be getting an answer…..showers moving across the Lake tpward the GRR vicinity… nothing strong or violent… appears to be just rain showers…… (WX radar)

  13. DF (SE Mich) says:

    Well, Flint couldn’t even make it to 80 today ;)
    That is about all I need to say about today.

  14. Nathan (Forest Hills) says:

    I dont understand what this cold talk is all about… It seems perfectly warm and sunny to me?

    1. Jack says:

      Not for Late July, or Early August ..In Michigan , Nathan ! It’s all Relative Though… Stay Cued…

  15. big Daddy BC says:

    No cold bias on this blog, LOL. The five most recent threads wreak of subjectivity. Is the ice age here? Brrrrrr

    1. Bill Steffen says:

      The global temperature anomaly for July stands at -0.437 deg. C. That’s pretty cold! Look at how cold the Poles are!

      Biggest Antarctic icecap EVER on any July 30th: http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/antarctic.sea.ice.interactive.html

      Coldest summer north of 80 degrees latitude since records began in 1958: http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/meant80n.uk.php

      Come November you can come over and shovel all the “global warming” off my driveway!

      1. big Daddy BC says:

        You’re stoned, Magoo, but I’m glad you’re predicting a snowy November. That takes guts. This summer you wouldn’t even wager a guess about. LOL But after two years, season after season of getting it flatly wrong I guess I might get a little pet-shy too. Fact is, though, I got the last two years right! LOL Sadly the only shoveling that’ll be necessary in November will be to clean up all the BS you spread on this silly blog.

        http://qz.com/109678/as-chinas-heatwave-hits-104-f-in-a-slew-of-cities-people-get-creative-about-cooling-off/

        1. Cliff (Scotts) says:

          Bye bye daddy, you look like a fool once again. Go hide in the corner till mama lets you play on the computer again.

        2. big Daddy BC says:

          I’m afraid as of December 7th of last year, you were predicting 89 inches! Must be convenient to be able to adjust that prediction as time goes by. LOL

          http://rivergrandrapids.com/whats-your-winter-of-2012-13-snowfall-prediction-poll/

        3. Bill Steffen says:

          Not true – you link has my prediction for the winter of 2011-12, not last winter. My snowfall prediction for 2012-13 was only off by one inch: http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2012/12/a_winter_dumping_or_a_dusting.html

          I don’t know why “The River” didn’t ask for my prediction for 2012-13 (they did have WXMI and WZZM). All the forecasts were off for 2011-12, but both George Lessens and I made an excellent snowfall forecast for 2012-13.

        4. big Daddy BC says:

          I stand corrected.

          Here’s a good one. LOL
          http://newsle.com/article/0/22002565/

        5. big Daddy BC says:

          Then again, as I recall, last year you gave no official winter forecast until late December. You and I made a bet on the temperature in November, which you lost, but you wouldn’t comment on precip. I said above average – including rain. You said nothing on that subject. A quick search of the internet finds nothing. Lots from the previous couple years, but strangely silent about last year.

        6. Bill Steffen says:

          I gave occasional snippets of long-range information on long-range weather on the blog. Again, check the link: http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2012/12/a_winter_dumping_or_a_dusting.html The article came out 12/20, though we made our predictions before that date.

          While you’re frantically and vainly flailing about the internet looking for something, anything to discredit me…check this out: http://www.epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Files.View&FileStore_id=a6df9665-e8c8-4b0f-a550-07669df48b15

      2. Robert(Plainwell) says:

        Hey Bill you know he won’t look at any link posted, but he is at least able to call people names.

        1. big Daddy BC says:

          Good evening, Stupid.

        2. Robert(Plainwell) says:

          Good evening to you bDBC. Nice enjoyable weather we are having here. Did you have a nice day today?

        3. Bill Steffen says:

          All bigDaddy has left is insults. The lies and name-calling show you his character, or in this case, lack thereof.

        4. big Daddy BC says:

          Yes, Robert, I did. Thanks for asking. And a good evening to you as well, Sir.

      3. Robert(Plainwell) says:

        Bill take a look at this link. Arctic ice today compared to a 1971 National Geographic map of Arctic ice.

        http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2013/07/31/arctic-ice-growth-since-1971/

        1. big Daddy BC says:

          More Stevengoddard, Robert. I swear you know of only two websites, that one and Watts’, both of which are political, not scientific.

        2. Bill Steffen says:

          You haven’t refuted a single fact at the Goddard link (or anything else).

          Have you read this yet: http://www.epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Files.View&FileStore_id=a6df9665-e8c8-4b0f-a550-07669df48b15

        3. big Daddy BC says:

          So the scientific world is now saddled with the job of refuting political hyperbole? I don’t think so. Perhaps instead, you should rise above the corporate rhetoric, seek out an unbiased/scientific source, and seek facts. Just an idea.

        4. Mike M. says:

          Cold records outnumber hot by 10-1 during last week of July in CONUS…

          http://wx.hamweather.com/maps/climate/records/1week/us.html?cat=maxtemp,mintemp,snow,lowmax,highmin

    2. Cliff (Scotts) says:

      Glad to see ya big daddy, you live on here when it’s hot out. Nice sleeping weather dontcha say dada?

    3. Robert(Plainwell) says:

      Hey bDBC were closer to an ice age than we are catastrophic global warming.

    4. Brian(Grandville) says:

      Sure hasn’t been much heat to talk about around here lately, or in the foreseeable future at least. Last summer we baked, while Europe, and other parts of the world were cool. This year, the opposite. Checks and balances. There is no overall trend on either side of the spectrum.

  16. Clarence says:

    Who cares about Italy. It is like several hundred miles from this great country. They should stop making pizzas and gangsters and focus on controlling weather like bill and the good weathermen here! I am thankful we don’t never had tornadoes in Michigan and never will. Just bad winds! Me and my wife have homeschooled our youngest after our son has turned out to be a worthless punk and we have been teaching her about tornadoes, so this blog comes at a good time. Her mom says its gods choice and I say it’s the weatherman who chooses it. Who knows but at least she is getting a balanced education that is better than schools that only teach about Jesus or how a hairy monkey turned into a man one day. Both seem stupid and have no proof

    1. big Daddy BC says:

      Right on, Clarence. Bill Steffen is definitely a hairy monkey that Jesus made who controls the weather with a swish of his moustache. Good idea home-schooling those little ones. ;)

  17. Barb says:

    You’re kidding, right?

    1. big Daddy BC says:

      Which part?

      1. Brian(Grandville) says:

        The part when you decided to chime in. :)

  18. big Daddy BC says:

    http://newsle.com/article/0/22002565/

    Have a look. Anyone else think it’s no coincidence that WOOD has hired not one but two chief mets who don’t believe in science?

    1. Brian(Grandville) says:

      That’s pretty low man. So what? Is everyone suppose to believe your theory then?

    2. Jack says:

      For What it’s Worth, Here is What I BELIEVE!!!!! CUE:::: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHo26oTwp6k. Peace, and God Bless ya All… Even Bdbc…. ;-)

      1. Bill Steffen says:

        Cool clouds in the video, Jack

      2. Ned S. (Now in South Holland) says:

        Thanks Jack!

    3. Bill Steffen says:

      “Don’t believe in science” HA! That’s funny, especially coming from you…you haven’t presented even a GE.D.’s qualification on the topics of weather and climate.

      I was hired (as most people are hired) because my employer thought that people would watch me and I would generate revenue for the station. That seems to have worked, because I’m into my 39th year I’ve been doing weather in this market. No tenure in my business.

    4. Ned S. (Now in South Holland) says:

      Mediamouse? Well there’s an impartial and unbiased source of information. Kind of like HuffPo or Moveon.org.

  19. YeahThatDan says:

    Look at, big daddy spew lies! When Bill posts facts and truth! I think, big daddy is not open to facts. The science is clear! We are not warming, I saw records lows all last week. Look for yourself! The problem is, big daddy and some others here think they know more than hard working People in this country! But, we know better and do not trust him and his pack of lies! The truth is out there. Stop reading the lame stream media!

  20. Mindy says:

    YOU ROCK BIG DADDY!!!! It’s ABOUT TIME someone tells concervative thinkers how it is!!!!

    1. Bill Steffen says:

      It’s not conservative or liberal, Mindy – Robert is an Obama supporter. It’s wasting money that could have been spent on actually helping people (http://money.cnn.com/2012/10/22/news/economy/obama-energy-bankruptcies/index.html)

    2. Robert(Plainwell) says:

      Mindy man can’t control all carbon released into the atmosphere. The Earth releases more carbon dioxide than man does. If the law makers decide to tax carbon emissions where will it stop, do they decide to tax humans for breathing out carbon?

      1. Bill Steffen says:

        Seriously, it’s been suggested they put a tax on running (like the 5th-3rd RiverBank Run) because people emit more CO2 while exercising!

    3. Mike M. says:

      Mindy looks remarkably like bigDuddy. Hey, bdbc, you misspelled “conservative” again.

  21. Mindy says:

    Looks like…..A RIGHT WING WEATHER BLOG!!!! Can’t deny that!!!

    1. yooper4021 says:

      OK, OK, OK…the left-wingers win. Since there obviously can’t possibly be differing opinions on global warming (or lack thereof), I’ll concede that the planet is baking, will eventually explode and blow us all to bits. Can we just move on please?

    2. Mike M. says:

      Big Duddy getting in touch with his feminine side with his “Mindy” sock puppet. Kinda creeps me out. Notice how his sock puppets never deny they are sock puppets?
      A definition for those new here on the interwebs…

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sockpuppet_(Internet)

  22. Mindy says:

    Oh, so Mike M the MORON is now name calling!!

    1. Cliff (Scotts) says:

      I will keep asking this question, maybe Mindy will answer? Where are all the hurricanes you warm nuts where talking about? 2,750 days and counting without a hurricane!

      1. Cliff (Scotts) says:

        How about tornado counts for the United States this year?

    2. Mike M. says:

      Mindy, when you go to see your psychiatrist does he tell you to lay on the couch face down?

  23. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    This thread is a joke and represents why congress gets absolutely nothing done. They are part of the worst congress in history!

    1. cbm says:

      The whole country is a joke when you look around and no one helps each other. There are whole cities of trayvons looking to loot steal and harm people. Mean while when the rest of it get disasters floods etc nobody seems to care and we are forced to struggle.

    2. Dan says:

      No, I would say this country is GREAT! The government is a joke! I’m talking about all of it. We take way too many things for granted!

  24. Dan says:

    WOW! More blog drama! Why am I not surprised to see Big Daddy’s comments? The fall is a hard one eh Big Daddy? Ask Lucifer or study to see the results of that fall. How come Travis went silent here?
    I hope for the days that we could once again have great, selfless people governing our nation! Probably will not happen! Remember, George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson?
    Ben Franklin was not a president. However, he had great influence when this country was being established. I would like to see people of this kind of character send O on his way! Interesting how George Washington never wanted to be referred to as a king. Point is, he had the wisdom to know that the office of the President was not to be carried out as a dictatorship!
    Hey Bill! KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK! It is funny how Big Daddy goes silent after every time you make him look foolish. Look above, he couldn’t even admit that he was wrong. His comments continually smack of that “entitlement attitude” It is VERY SAD!

    1. Bill Steffen says:

      “If we can but prevent the government from wasting the labours of the people, under the pretense of taking care of them, they must become happy…
      Thomas Jefferson

  25. INDY says:

    Food Stamps and Dreams MICHIGAN………INDYY

    1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

      Bring on the cold and snow!

  26. Mindy says:

    Ya Mike M, i lay face down so i don’t have to look at you!!!

  27. Mindy says:

    As to Cliff (Scotts) OMG, Hello, Hurricane season peaks late August to October, runs till November, Explain that!!!!

    1. Cliff (Scotts) says:

      Mindy mindy, I feel your pain!!! I will give you till October to answer the hurricane question, lets forget the past 7 years. How about tornado counts? At just over 600 when usually at this time we should be at almost 1100. It’s ok you fell for the global warming craze!!! Media can do that to uneducated folks like yourself. Mother Nature goes through her cycles and if you educated yourself we are actually going into a cooling phase.

    2. Brian(Grandville) says:

      The violent tropical systems that “your” experts predict year after year, just haven’t developed. That is due to the fact that THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS MAN MADE GLOBAL WARMING!!!!!
      It gets hot, it gets cold. It rains it snows. It’s the same s**t every year, we already knew that. Time to start funding a worthwhile cause maybe.

  28. Dan says:

    Mindy, you still avoided answering Cliff’s question! You only stated when hurricanes occur!

  29. Mindy says:

    As to Hurricanes, let’s see, we have lots of time for many Hurricanes to form. And as to going to a cool period evey time cool nuts start up, Oh below normal temps. for Winters. 2011 thru 2013, well that did not happen, the winter of 2011 i had Tulips growing in early February, Green Grass,Bad Thunderstorm. When was the last real bad, super cold snowy winters, 2009-2010? Not very many. Every Winter we get less and less snow unless you live in the snowbelt areas!!

  30. Dan says:

    Have to go back more than just a couple of years! Otherwise, how reliable could the data truly be? I believe you were asked about numbers of hurricanes. Typical for your response. To add to your lack of solid data, how about the reduction in the numbers of tornados over the last 10 years?

Leave a Reply