Lots of ice

September 5th, 2013 at 2:37 am by under Bill's Blog, News, Weather

arctic ice  Massive amounts of ice in the Arctic hampering ships.  This was the coldest summer (June thru August) ever recorded north of 80 deg. latitude (records go back to 1958).  The town of Resolute in N. Canada hasn’t been warmer than 33F since August 18th.  The town of Alert hasn’t been above freezing since 8/22.  On Sept. 2 they had a high temperature of 25F and a low of 10F.  They’re already growing ice up there.   While Arctic ice extent remains well below the 1979-2000 average, there has been a huge increase in ice cover in the past year.   The Antarctic ice cap is at a record extent and has been growing pretty steadily for 25 years.  Here’s a graph of annual temperatures for the South Pole weather stations (Amundsen-Scott).    Also, only the 4th time since 1883 that there was not a 100-deg. temperature in Alabama during meteorological summer (June, July and August).

This is from the IPCC 2007 report:  “In their Fourth Assessment Report in 2007 they had this to say.  “Unlike in the Arctic, a strong decline in sea ice extent has not been observed in the Antarctic during the period of satellite observations (Section ….. However, Gregory et al. (2002b) find a decline in antarctic sea ice extent in their model, contrary to observations.”

31 Responses to “Lots of ice”

  1. TomKap (Michigan St. & Fuller) Grand Rapids says:

    Just a small taste of what’s to come for us this Winter.

  2. norm says:

    Bill, would you stop throwing ice blocks in Al Gore’s Global Warming/ Climate Change machine? LOL, I see the EPA has decided to start regulating “water vapor content”. Bet those fines will suck for states with volcanoes that dump magma into the oceans, (Hawaii must not be paying their ‘fair share’ with no auto manufacturing plants to harass). Shouldn’t be too long before the calls of ‘man made global cooling’ come out.

  3. Travis (Oakland County) says:

    Arctic ice levels have fallen even quicker than IPC models had predicted. They may be slightly up from the record low of 2012, but check out the dwindling long term trend that seems to get lost on this blog:


    The entire updated analysis can be found in the scientific journal here if you have a login:


    1. Bill Steffen says:

      Slightly up? Look at the difference between this year and last: http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/N_stddev_timeseries.png It would be closer to average if they used the entire satellite era record, rather than stopped the average in 2000. Travis, both your links are old and outdated. My link is right up to the present.

      1. Travis (Oakland County) says:

        Outdated? It’s not even a year old.

        I’ve seen the long-term chart up-to-date but couldn’t find an image to link it.

        Just a tiny little spike in 2013 when looking at the long-term decline.

        1. big Daddy BC says:


          Have a look at this graph. Show’s the insignificance of Bill’s claim.

        2. Bill Steffen says:

          Total global sea ice is now (5/14) a MILLION sq. km. ABOVE average! Nice comeback since 2012: http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/global.daily.ice.area.withtrend.jpg

      2. Travis (Oakland County) says:

        Your link shows 2013 as still not being anywhere close to average.

        It’s funny. You don’t mention at all last year how the ice in the arctic was the lowest ever recorded, and yet this year when it comes back a tiny bit there’s post after post about it being higher this year than last.

        1. Bill Steffen says:

          Arctic ice is within 2 standard deviations of average (and a huge increase in ice in the past year): http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/N_stddev_timeseries.png

          Antarctic ice is more than 2 standard deviations ABOVE average: http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/S_stddev_timeseries.png

        2. big Daddy BC says:

          Is this a surprise to anyone? Bill was talking the global cooling talk a few years back. He was, of course, piggy-backing on Bastardi and we see how that turned out. LOL Here’s the truth about what what’s happening globally:


          “July 2013 was the sixth highest July since record keeping began in 1880. It also marked the 37th consecutive July and 341st consecutive month (more than 28 years) with a globally averaged temperature above the 20th century average.”

          He’d love nothing more than to distract you with anomalous cold regions, but the truth is, it’s fricken cooking and we’re to blame.

        3. Bill Steffen says:

          Global temperatures have been steady since 2012: http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs_v3/Fig.C.gif

          The climate models are failing: http://www.climatedialogue.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Figure-2-Pielke.jpg

          This is from Dr. Judith Curry, Head of Climate Science at Georgia Tech:

          For the past 16 years, there has been no significant increase in surface temperature. There is a growing discrepancy between observations and climate model projections. Observations since 2011 have fallen below the 90% envelope of climate model projections
          The IPCC does not have a convincing or confident explanation for this hiatus in warming.
          There is growing evidence of decreased climate sensitivity to atmospheric carbon dioxideconcentrations
          Based on expert judgment in light of this evidence, the IPCC 5th assessment report lowered its surface temperature projection relative to the model projections for the period 2016-2036.

      3. Robert(Plainwell) says:

        Hey Bill has there ever been a study done about all the ice breakers in the Arctic and what that has done to the ice?

        I know soot plays a part to.

        1. big Daddy BC says:


        2. Bill Steffen says:

          big Daddy’s brief, but brilliant autobiography above (LOL)

  4. Travis (Oakland County) says:

    Also, for some perspective, New Zealand just had their warmest winter ever recorded, Australia just experienced their warmest 12 month period on record, and record warmth at the South Pole as well. Winter in the southern hemisphere was pretty tame this year.

    1. Bill Steffen says:

      New Zealand is cooler than average for the first week of Sept. Extreme cold in S. America. Temperature has been declining at the South Pole: http://www.john-daly.com/stations/amundsen.gif

      1. Travis (Oakland County) says:

        And yet every consecutive month globally has been warmer than average for decades.

        Not sure why you’d throw in all these random cold places in your blog and conveniently leave out the record hot winter the southern hemisphere just had? Hmm

        1. DF (SE Mich) says:

          Throwing out random warm places is ok though… hypocrite.

        2. DF (SE Mich) says:

          Where is the old Travis?

        3. yooper4021 says:

          Yawn. Same talking points, different day. Practice what you preach, Travis.

        4. Rocky (Rockford) says:

          Here we go again – Travis has a medical condition – it is called global warming sickness! Wow!

        5. big Daddy BC says:

          Got news for you, Rockford, we all have it.

          “July 2013 was the sixth highest July since record keeping began in 1880. It also marked the 37th consecutive July and 341st consecutive month (more than 28 years) with a globally averaged temperature above the 20th century average.” NOAA

  5. DF (SE Mich) says:

    The round the world sailboat races have been severely interrupted by the southern ice. They love to go as far south as possible to catch more wind but the race organizers have restricted how far south they can go.

  6. Mary (Barrow, AK) says:

    Haha good article on the ships in the ice! All I know is its cold up here, 30s every day, and we’ve had snow already a few times too.

  7. DF (SE Mich) says:

    Here is another cool long term graph showing ALL global sea ice.

    1. big Daddy BC says:

      Hey, Numbnuts. Your graph depicts area and not volume. Do you understand the diff?

      1. Bill Steffen says:

        Here’s TOTAL GLOBAL SEA ICE: http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/global.daily.ice.area.withtrend.jpg As you can see it’s well above average (May 2014)

  8. big Daddy BC says:

    Try this one on for size It, too depicts area, but paints a slightly different picture: http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/seaice.anomaly.arctic.png

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