Wednesday PM

September 25th, 2013 at 3:35 am by under Bill's Blog, Weather

apple time The early apples are coming in and they are excellent this year.  Overall, agriculture has had a good year in Michigan and the U.S.   We’ll have a few high clouds floating by today, but I think we can still go with mostly sunny.  We’ll be a couple degrees warmer each day as we climb to near 80 on Saturday.  The models have been pretty much in agreement and consistent with a band of rain along a cool front Saturday night (starts in the evening on the GFS).  It’ll probably rain lightly for 3-6 hours.  The European gives G.R. 0.16″ and the GFS 0.21″ – so they are pretty similar.   Hopefully, it clears out pretty quickly, leaving most of Saturday and most of Sunday midday/afternoon dry.  We’ll probably be dry Monday and upper 60s to near 70, then mid 70s on Tuesday…so Art Prize countinues to have rockin’ good weather.   The GFS is wetter and cooler after around Oct. 4, but the European warms us back up into the upper 70s by the 4th.  Usually, when in doubt, side with the European…however in the fall, pay attention to the recurving Pacific typhoon rule…that there is a trough in the eastern U.S. 6-10 days after a recurving typhoon.  Check out recurving Typhoon Pabuk which passes east of Japan.   Here’s the latest GRR NWS discussion, which looks right on.

61 Responses to “Wednesday PM”

  1. Daniel G says:

    Great working weather down at the train yard for us! Love it…but not really looking forward to winter…

  2. INDY says:

    Sad that Travis being himself over and over with his heat for brains has ran a lot of good bloggers away even fixer don’t come on here anymore wow never thought that would happen……Travis keep up the good work!!!! Bill come on out to thee YARDofBRICKS Saturday night!!! INDYY

    1. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

      Not sure what happened to the one that called himself “fixer” but I doubt him or her quite using that persona because of the one who goes by the name of Travis.

    2. michael g (SE GR) says:

      If Travis really drove away fix, then I have to give him credit for at least one useful contribution to this blog.

  3. Travis (Oakland County) says:

    Warmer this morning than last. Looks like some very nice days coming up with lots of sunshine! NWS mentioning another progressive trough may impact the Great Lakes region next week.

    If the current models hold, we won’t be seeing any real freezes until Halloween-ish or later.

    Looks like a possible nor’easter might dump a ton of rain on New England early next week.

    1. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

      If one was to believe the accu lessweathers 45 day guess there would not be a freeze until after Halloween, but I would not put too much faith into that guess at this time.

    2. michael g (SE GR) says:

      Which model exactly doesn’t snow a freezes in the next 36 days?

      1. michael g (SE GR) says:

        Holy cow! Is that even English?

  4. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

    You know there was some talk as to where we are as far fall leaf color compared to average. Now while I am not sure what is considered “average” amount of color here in west Michigan in late September here is some information that was released a few weeks ago and has some charts as to when the peak time it generally expected

    I would guess one would have to keep a record of a few trees for several years to see what % has changed on each day starting in late August. Oh well what ever color we do have will be coming up real soon now so enjoy!

    1. Travis (Oakland County) says:

      Someone go take a picture of this area downtown, so we can compare!

      This was taken September 12th, 2012:

      Two weeks later in 2013, the same trees I think are still more green.

  5. INDY says:

    Bill DF has gave up on travis Who would of thought!!! Sad!!!! But Funny!!!! Bill Stop Over Saturday Night!!! We Will Have A Nice Hot Fire going!!!! INDYY

    1. kevin. w says:

      I gave up on travis and I think Rocky kinda of has too. You can’t fix stupid no matter how much you try somethings are just meant to be broken forever. :)

      1. Travis (Oakland County) says:

        Because Rocky and Indy contribute so many wonderfully intellectually stimulating things on this blog….

        They’ve single-handedly done more damage to this blog than any I can recall over the past 3 or 4 years. Many old-timers on here left in droves a year ago – and have not been back. That was basically the start of the decline of this blog and how it turned into a juvenile shouting match with very little actual weather insight being shared.

        Bill has told me numerous times he wishes he could do something or add an ignore button, but he simply does not have the technological capability right now.

        Ahh the beauty of anonymous internet blogging at its finest.

        1. Dan says:

          Ahh, I think he was directing that comment at you Travis. Maybe a little bit full of yourself?

        2. Jordan (Twin Lake) says:

          Dan is the best contributor of all. How ’bout them Tigers?

        3. Rocky (Rockford) says:

          Travis you delusional and usually 100% wrong!

        4. Dan says:

          Thanks, Jordan! I appreciate the compliment!

      2. INDY says:

        LOL!! INDYY

  6. kevin. w says:

    I’m not going to go into too much weather info on here, you just end up getting thrown under a big fat bus. I have noticed alot of people that were on here have left that I enjoyed talking to. Alot of the talk ends up bashing each other and it just makes it no fun. I can only see it now when we get info from Bill about the big changes coming and getting ready for heavy snow, ice or whatever that someone will end up destroying it. I hope this blog can some way shape or form get back to what it was like….But I kinda of doubt it. If I say its looking like in the next so many days/weeks its going to get real cold/warm and severe weather/snowstorms then someone will come on here and say your full of crap/whatever… Blah blah blah blah blah…etc, etc…..

    1. Dan says:

      kevin w: I hope you will continue posting weather data! Your posts are always very informing and insightful!

  7. Jeff (Richland) says:

    Bill, I hope it doesn’t clear up Sunday and it rains way more than the models show. It is so dry around here, drier than it has been all of 2013 I would say. We need a soaking rain!

  8. INDY says:

    Hey Travis U NEVER READ INDY OR BILL’S BEST ON HERE ANYMORE because of u and your GAY’nees in love heat talk get over your self!! Come on over to thee west side and we will play anytime anywhere!! I e mail Bill more then I ever have because I don’t want to come on Bills blog like a lot others and read your love thoughts about heat waves!! INDYY

    1. Barb says:

      Indy & others…ignore Travis and the other kooks. Then they’ll go away since they won’t get attention.

      1. Mark (East Lansing) says:


    2. Travis (Oakland County) says:

      The less posting the better, please. We can’t make out your sentences or which pseudo-name you decide to use on the blog today. You’ve driven too many old-timer away already.

  9. Barb says:

    There was frost on the soccer field behind my house this morning in SE GR. Also, a scientist on NPR yesterday (I forgot her name since I was listening in passing) was reporting on her study findings that since the polar ice caps are by & large melting, the jet stream will not be as strong and will move more slowly across the U.S. That seems to be happening. We’ve had below average rainfall for 3 of the last 4 months.

    1. Dan says:

      What about last April, Barb? How about three weeks ago? We received tons of rain. We received almost 6 inches of rain on that Monday a few weeks ago. WAY ABOVE average!

      1. Barb says:

        Since April we have been pretty dry. I don’t know where you are, but I’ve researched the National Weather Service site for my info.

    2. michael g (SE GR) says:

      First off, it was 46* this morning at my house in SE GR, there was heavy dew, but no frost.

      Secondly, the Antarctic ice cap is NOT MELTING. IT IS NEAR THE LARGEST EVER RECORDED. Even if it were, below average rainfall in one place for three out of four months would NOT indicate that her hypothesis is correct.

    3. Bill Steffen says:

      As you can see, the polar ice caps (plural) are not melting away at the present. Ice has grown considerably at both poles in the past year.

      When the global warming issue first came up, I remember hearing an alarmist talk about how it would cause more hurricanes. His argument was warmer water in the ocean would cause more hurricanes. This hurricane season certainly suggests the opposite. The water over much of the North Atlantic is warm. Overall the AMO (oscillation) is warm. Yet we’ve had very little significant hurricane activity since 2005, the big Katrina year. I remember asking the alarmist why he thought there wouldn’t be fewer hurricanes. Hurricanes are a mechanism for moving heat from the Tropics toward the Poles. Under a global warming scenario, the Poles (smaller area and the Tropics have more water. It’s harder to change the temperature of a large amount of water…try putting a garbage can full of water on the stove burner and see how long it takes to warm up) will warm up faster, minimizing the temperature difference between the Pole and the Equator. I think the alarmists are on the wrong side of the hurricane issue, but they’re stuck with it now and it’s not going well for them.

  10. Dan says:

    Awesome Fall Day! I would be willing to bet you on your prediction for a Halloween freeze Travis! I would say we get that freeze around October 14th or the 16th. Somewhere right in there. Will you take the bet? If I’m wrong, I’ll definitely come on here and post that. However, you must do the same!

    1. michael g (SE GR) says:

      Going to have to nail down the details Dan, or else you’ll come on here after a 30* morning and Travis will say it was 39* in Toledo, or 77* in Flint.

    2. Brad says:

      But not October 15? What does “around there” mean? You can’t even frame a bet with the necessary precision. Oafish.

      1. Jack says:

        Lol…. October 14 and a Half ? Or Oct. 14 and a quarter ? …. Hmmm. ….. Stay Cued… ;-)

      2. Dan says:

        Why do you feel it necessary to speak for Travis? Did your study on the variety of fungi end? Shouldn’t have to explain this. I know, how about if. you take a close look at calendar for the month of October. Got that, Brad? Then, look at the dates that I mentioned. Brad: Human beings are higher level than primates! Humans are capable of much higher level thinking, creating and communicating. However, in your case the standard must be MUCH lower. Buzz off ! I didn’t bet you , I was betting Travis. Interesting fact about common sense, it really isn’t so common.

        1. Rodey (Rockford) says:

          Wow the hypocrite speaks. Why do you always feel the need to speak for Rocky? Can’t always have it your way. Speaking of common sense, try using it sometimes.

        2. Dan says:

          no original thought! Wow Rodey. You must have. very sad existence .How cone not a thanks for listening posted?

        3. Rocky (Rockford) says:

          Rodney I mean fixxxer is worse than Travis and all of his misinformation. He has a sickness and can not help himself!

        4. Brad says:

          Humans are primates, Dan. It’s really quite simple.

  11. Jack says:

    Apples, Peaches, Pumpkin Pie !!!!! Happy Hump~ Day, and a CUE, From Jay and The Techniques ,!!! SPIN : Remember THIS ONE BILL ?????? Lol… Enjoy !!!!

  12. Jack says:

    Off Topic…. RE: Artprize !!! So, Because 3 People Complain about The ART on The CALDER !! It has To Come Down ??? Wow, Democracy is alive and Well, In Grand Rapids……NOT!!!!!!!! VOTE NO…To Take It DOWN !! Staying CUED…4…. Your VIEWS!! ? ;-)

    1. Brad says:

      Tricky decision. I am sure Mr. Calder would have been sickened by the Bill Steffen mustaches being passed around, but to each his own.

      1. Bill Steffen says:

        Brad does not speak for Mr. Calder. I’m sure the vast majority of you can distinguish between altering a famous artwork and a marketing campaign that has made a lot of people laugh and smile over the past couple weeks.

        1. Brad says:

          LOL don’t be so sensitive. I wore my mustache while we chatted.

        2. Dan says:

          Bill, Brad has a fetish for your mustache or he is jealous of it? Hmmm a bit disturbing. I also find his comment about potty training a bit disturbing. You know what Bill? Brad continually calls me out about my reading comprehension. Ironic thing is, he never comprehends what others post.
          I seriously think there are some big issues there. Oh well, he is free to post what he wants, right?

      2. Brad says:

        And I was drinking my Tom Van Howe brewski.

  13. Brad (Van Buren) says:

    Sounds like warm weather is hanging out just a tad bit longer this year. That’s fine with me, we like to do a lot of fall camping. The cold and snow can wait just a bit longer to get here. I do look forward to snowboarding when winter does finally show up. I just hope we have some good snow over x-mas break.

  14. Jack says:

    GOOOOOO Tigers !!!!! 3 Pete 2~ Nite !!!!! Stay CUED!!!!

  15. Dan says:

    Lets go Tigers! Clinch the AL Central. You can do it boys!

    1. Brad says:

      Are you repeating the words you heard while you were potty training, Dan?

  16. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    Get ready because the “global cooling” period is about to get revved up!

    1. kevin. w says:

      Hooray, yippy, yes, alright, about time, fantastic. love it. Best news all summer. :)

      1. Dan says:

        Cool down around the 2nd half of October! Then, snow?!
        Winter is getting closer!

  17. Jack says:

    TIGERS are Central Division CHAMPS!!!!! WOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOO!!!!!! :-)

    1. Dan says:

      Yes, they are Jack! Will they have the hitting for their much needed run scoring for the playoffs? I hope so! They have a very solid starting pitching rotation for the playoffs. In other words, I am hopeful that Miggy can get back to 80-90% by the time the playoffs start!! Lets go Tigers!

  18. INDY says:

    Bill Don’t Give Up On Us Just Yet!!!! lololo..INDYY

    1. Jack says:

      WE ARE BILLS BLOG…. WE ARE WEATHER !!! A SALUTE 2 ” The Chief”… BILL STEFFENS! !!! :-) . We Love YA BILL!!

  19. INDY says:


    1. Jack says:

      Indeed…. I’ll Bring Theeeeeeeee. WE-DDDDDD!!! Stay Cued…. ;-)

  20. Jack says:

    Jim Leyland AL Central Championship Dance – YouTube
    ► 0:15► 0:15

  21. Jack says:

    Speaking of Dancing……CUE…… The Rolling Stones:::::::::: Crank it UP!!!! ;-)

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