Weekend Showers

October 19th, 2013 at 3:03 am by under Bill's Blog, Weather

Local  9:45 PM – We’re getting a very few flashes of lightning with the showers coming thru this evening.  It’s also cold enough for a period of small hail.  Nothing severe.  Tigers and Red Sox scoreless in the 4th.   With scattered weekend showers, I’ll leave radar and links at the top of the blog.  Our cool and wet pattern continues through the next week and beyond.   Will there be a waterspout on Lake Michigan?  Send us a pic. if you see one.

Anyone up for a weekend science quiz (honest, I did get all 13 right).   Check out the snow in Colorado Springs.   The overnight GFS plot would only have temps. in the 30s while the kids are trick-or-treating on the 31st.  It has our coldest temperature at 850 mb at -7 Thursday night, so Friday am is probably the mostly likely time to see a little snow on the ground this week.  It has even colder air for the following week.   Fall colors should be close to peak over much of our area over the next few days.  The full moon is tonight and called the Hunter’s Moon.    Here’s this week’s Sky at a Glance.  Geesh…something else to worry about.


For Michigan weather observations and wind speeds, click here. Here’s WOOD-TV looping Radar. Check out regional radar, GRR radar, northern Indiana radar, Chicago radar and Milwaukee radar. Here’s the College of DuPage Radar Map (pick any radar in the U.S.), College of DuPage Grand Rapids radar, the West Michigan Lightning Tracker, National Lightning Tracker, the local warning/advisory map and the National warning/watch/advisory map, and a surface weather map. You can checkout the latest Grand Rapids NWS discussion, the Northern Indiana NWS discussion (includes the Michigan Counties that border Indiana), the discussion for Northern Lower Michigan, and Eastern Lower Michigan. Check out Storm Total Rainfall (until they reset it). Here’s the Spyglass Condos Weather Station the S. Haven GLERL station, the Muskegon GLERL station, the Grand Haven Steelheaders webcam and weather station, and the weather station at Holland State Park. Check out the WOOD lightning tracker and U.S. lightning, the Maranatha Webcam at Lake Michigan and links to webcams. Here’s the infrared satellite loop (night) and the visible satellite loop (daytime), Lake Michigan water temperatures. Here’s storm reports from SW Michigan, Northern Michigan, NE Illinois, SE. Wisconsin, Upper Michigan and E. Michigan.

101 Responses to “Weekend Showers”

  1. Rad ( Jenison / Hudsonville ) says:

    Got 11 of the 13 correct,

  2. INDY says:

    Wow Bill rain and snow on Friday and who said sunny and 60′s lololooo!! Coool morning out thee YARDofBRICKS again I can’t remember any snow before trick or treat day going to be a very cold winter coming and it shows already!!! Have a great Week’nd Bills best!!Happy Birthday uncle JACK GO TIGERS!!! INDYY

    1. kevin. w says:


    2. Rocky (Rockford) says:

      + one trillion!

    3. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

      Here is yet another snow event that happened before Halloween. This is from today’s GR NWS site

      On October 19 in Southwest Lower Michigan…
      Four to five inches of snow falls across Lower Michigan as a record early season snowfall causes power outages and travel delays


  3. Dan says:

    I got 12 of 13 correct on that quiz. Wish I could viee the one I missed.

    1. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

      I guess you did not know where to look for your results. It gives a complete break down for each question. Take the test over maybe you will score better the next time!

      1. Brad says:

        It’s Dan…

    2. Mike M. says:

      It’s nitrogen, not oxygen.

  4. Dan says:

    Snow on the ground the day after Halloween! Here comes Winter…….

  5. Jeff (Fremont) says:

    13 of 13 and I have no background in science, I think this is one of those “are you smarter than a fifth grader?” type quizzes.

    I’m a little skeptical about snow this early, though I remember getting snow in the morning on October 28th last year, but after that we had to wait until January!!!

    1. Jeff (Fremont) says:

      Almost forgot, go Tigers!

  6. Travis (Oakland County) says:

    Well, it was another warmer than average day for most of southern Lower again yesterday. My streak is now 24 consecutive days without a colder than average day. Muskegon too.

    Updated 3 month CPC is out. Mild winter ahead?


    Go Tigers!

    1. Mark (East Lansing) says:

      Good for you. Thanks for the update.

    2. INDY says:

      Hits hits and more hits!!! INDYY

  7. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    Well it looks like Travis and all his warm weather hype is wrong again. We are headed for a much below normal temperature pattern and October will end up with below average temperatures! Imagine that! Who knew?

    1. Rodey (Rockford) says:

      Just like you and all your cold and snow hype. Fantastic. I love it. Thanks for listening.

      1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

        The padded cell awaits you fixxxer! Get a LIFE! I do appreciate you listening intently to every word that I say. I appreciate your support and you may want to lead the Rocky fan club next year!

        1. Rodey (Rockford) says:

          And I appreciate you hanging on my every word and commenting about them. I love it. Fantastic. Thanks for listening and commenting. I love it. Get used to it.

  8. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    Bring on the COLD and SNOW! The more SNOW the better!

  9. Cort S. says:

    Some graupel being reported on the north side of Holland. With freezing levels only a few thousand feet off the ground and instability reaching only ten thousand feet or less, it’s the perfect fall recipe for lake-enhanced low-topped convective showers to produce some small ice pellets such as graupel.

    1. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

      Thanks for that info Cort

  10. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

    Well looking at the CPC’s updated long range guess its their thinking that November could be warm but then turn colder for the start of the winter season.

    Here is their (winter) DJF guess


    And their JFM guess

    So as of mid October the CPC’s take on the upcoming winter equal chances of average, above or below in both temps and precipitation. Its been a long time since the CPC has had equal chances in the winter season for the northern part of the US…We shall see.

    1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

      Keep the good news rolling! I am sure that Travis will be preaching about above average temperatures all winter long even though we will be getting hammered! GR is headed for over 100 inches of SNOW! Bring it on!

      1. Rodey (Rockford) says:

        Just like you preaching cold and snow all the time. Epic failure. Fantastic. I love it. Who knew?

  11. kevin. w says:

    Up in Traverse City today had a nice sleet/graupel shower even with a little rumble of thunder. Headin up toward Boyne country to see some friends then on the way to Mackinaw City then decided to go up to Marquette for a few days to see some family up that way. Hoping to see some snow around those parts probably comin back down toward Tuesday and go along the west side of the state to see some more color. Lots of color up this way but betting the rain/sleet will knock the leaves off. Lots of funny clouds today over the bay almost looks like January type lake effect snows squalls coming in but mostly rain but no funnels/waterspouts. Love this time of year thats for sure.

  12. Cort S. says:

    This article from Scientific American discusses some the ways science was disrupted by the shutdown. Meteorology was hurt by this shutdown too, and it continues to be hurt by inconsistent short-term budget resolutions and the sequester. When policymakers play politics to the point of not even being able to accomplish the bare minimum, we all suffer in so many tangible and intangible ways.


    1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

      All Washington politicians are to blame for this mess, however the ultra conservative Tea Party is the biggest problem and caused the most damage! They actually wanted the USA to default on its obligations. How stupid is that? This position is so radical it is hard to even take them seriously! The Tea Party and the repubs have taken a beating over this shutdown!

      1. Mike M. says:

        You lie, of course. Even if they had managed to hold the debt ceiling as is, it is the decision of the President to default on bond payments, not Congress.

        Obama will go for the long term default. That will happen when there is no one left to buy our debt. At that point hyperinflation will set in, destroying our economy and taking the world down with it. Obama knows he rules over a nation of idiots who think it’s all just Monopoly money. The ones who point out the suicidal economic behavior of spending into oblivion are easily dismissed as terrorists and racists.

        1. Rocky (Rockford) says:


        2. Mark (East Lansing) says:


      2. Ned S. (Now in South Holland) says:

        Rocky, I love you, but the Tea Party did not want a default. No one wants a default. The fact is, that even with a gov’t shutdown, there was/is $200B coming into the treasury each month. The interest on the debt is $30B per month. We are bringing in enough money to pay the interest on the debt, Social Security, Medicare and the military. Yes, some of the other stuff would have to wait, but a default, not a chance. We can agree to disagree without getting nasty about it. I don’t think the Tea Party people are the monsters that the media makes them out to be. They believe in a limited government and spending that is commensurate with income. I don’t think that’s so horrible. Just my opinion.

        1. Brad says:

          Baggers have no real principles. They’re just Birchers who like Camellia.

        2. Bill Steffen says:

          Interesting comment:

          “I work for the NWS and of course, I am surrounded by liberal scientists who have turned off their critical analysis cap. I shared your (Steve’s) link to the NASA satellite imagery of western Greenland. Got some irrational comments from colleagues but when confronted with the facts they backed down.

          It’s really sad though, many NWS employees endorse my arguments in email, but are afraid to post because they are afraid of retaliation. I think this will be a hell-of-a-winter in the East, 2013/14.” Jerry Gorline

        3. Rocky (Rockford) says:

          It appears to me that the Tea Party’s goal is to de-fund and destroy our government. Basically commit suicide to our nation.
          Does the Tea Party believe in social security and medicare?

    2. GunLakeDeb says:

      Good article, Cort; and it points out how ridiculous the shutdown was, and how many innocent people were HURT while a bunch of overpaid politicians played bully with the “other guys” (I feel that my accusation applies to BOTH parties). I will remember how frustrating this was; and that we’ll surely go through it again…… the next time I step into a voting booth.

  13. Eileen says:

    Not being a science student I am pleased that I scored 13 of 13 on the science quiz. Way to go!

    1. Brad says:

      I suspect that the blog topic self-selects people who are interested in science, so the average here is probably higher than the average for the general population. As long as INDY doesn’t take the quiz, mind you…

      I’m surprised Bill made it past the question about CO2!

      1. Cliff(Scotts) says:

        Nope I only got a 10 out of 13. I kinda rushed through and kicked myself on the 3 I got wrong.

      2. Bill Steffen says:

        I’d also get the question right if they asked if global temperatures had gone up or held steady in the last 10+ years: http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs_v3/Fig.C.gif

  14. OH, you are so right Rocky (Rockford). Let me remind everybody, Teabaggers cost our American ecomony 24+ BILLION DOLLARS!!!!!! and are talking to do another shutndown again in early 2014!!!! Repubs preach BS fiscal responsibility! NOT!!! lol lol lol!!!! PATHETIC!!!!!!!

    1. Brian (Grandville) says:

      Obama spent more money in his first term then ALL previous presidents combined. I must ask you how this is the Republican’s fault?

      1. Cort S. says:

        I think it would be best for the blog and America if we as a people could transcend partisanship and learn more about how the socioeconomic system shaped by both parties over the course of several decades has lead us to this point. These are complex and multifaceted problems, and there are lots of good ideas for steps we can take to solve them. Continuing to learn more about the system we live in is hard, partisanship is easy. It hinders meaningful conversations when we act like the other side hates America.

        1. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

          Very well stated Cort. There are way too many finger pointers who have no solutions. Everyone should take heed in the words from John Lennon from song “Watching The Wheels”

          “People asking questions lost in confusion,
          Well I tell them there’s no problem,
          Only solutions”

        2. Cort S. says:

          There are lots of resources online that can teach us all more about how our system works in an informative yet somehow entertaining way. Oh how I love the internet! There CAN be places in media where meaningful conversations take place which don’t devolve into us becoming giant squids of anger.

          For example, why are we trapped in a two-party system, and why can’t we get out of it?

          Okay, you fix the budget!

          Keep being lifelong learners, and I promise I will join you on that journey.


        3. bodawg says:


        4. Rocky (Rockford) says:

          + one hundred billion trillion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        5. Barb says:

          People need to be educated that defense spending is the biggest part of the budget. I doubt if either party wants to cut back on that too much. Talk about jobs going away if defense gets cut back…

        6. Bill Steffen says:

          HHS is number 1 in the U.S. budget, Social Security is #2. Defense is #3 and keep in mind that the defense budget contains things like breast cancer research funding.

      2. Mark (East Lansing) says:

        Since Hoover, every President has spent more than his predecessor.

      3. Rocky (Rockford) says:


        1. Bill Steffen says:

          Congress Session Years President Start debt/GDP End debt/GDP Increase debt
          (in Billions of $) Increase debt/GDP
          (in percentage points)

          91–92 1969–1973 Nixon 38.6% 35.6% +101 -3.0%
          93–94 1973–1977 Nixon, Ford 35.6% 35.8% +177 +0.2%
          95–96 1977–1981 Carter 35.8% 32.5% +288 -3.3%
          97–98 1981–1985 Reagan 32.5% 43.8% +823 +11.3%
          99–100 1985–1989 Reagan 43.8% 53.1% +1,050 +9.3%
          101–102 1989–1993 Bush Sr. 53.1% 66.1% +1,483 +13.0%
          103–104 1993–1997 Clinton 66.1% 65.4% +1,018 -0.7%
          105–106 1997–2001 Clinton 65.4% 56.4% +401 -9.0%
          107–108 2001–2005 Bush 56.4% 63.5% +2,135 +7.1%
          109–110 2005–2009 Bush 63.5% 84.2% +3,971 +20.7%
          111–112 2009–2013 Obama 84.2% 102.7% +6,061 +18.5%

          Note how much better off we were under Reagan (when the economy was booming) and Clinton.

        2. Mark (East Lansing) says:

          And both Reagan (shh don’t tell the tea baggers) and Clinton raised taxes while at the same time cut spending.

        3. Bill Steffen says:

          There are times when taxes can be (voluntarily) increased and times when tax cuts can spur economic growth. Look at how many new high schools were built here in W. Michigan from the late 80s into the mid 90s. People had more disposable income and were more apt to approve school millage increases.

          Here’s a Democrat that Harry Reid should listen to:


    2. Mike M. says:

      “Teabagger?” Must be that Kumbaya spirit that Cort is going on about. The Tea Party has saved about $500 billion in debt being tacked onto your children’s future debt load…


      Will someone step forward and explain to me why a $17 trillion dollar national debt and $94 trillion in unfunded liabilities are no problem? Apparently you people find those that object to that being the problem. Is it all play money or not?

      1. Mark (East Lansing) says:

        We haven’t even started paying on our grandparents’ debt.

      2. Bill Steffen says:

        We just spent 1.3 million dollars to repaint and put new LED lights on the blue bridge in G.R. It wasn’t too long ago when 1.3 million would get you a whole new bridge!

    3. Ned S. (Now in South Holland) says:

      Mindy your facts and logic, unfortunately for you are pathetic.

    4. Brad says:

      The Baggers who dress in colonial garb are my favorite fossils. Their sartorial nostalgia is youthful when you consider their ossified brains.

      1. Bill Steffen says:

        The real fossils are those who think communism actually works!

  15. GunLakeDeb says:

    13 out of 13 ridiculously-easy questions (say the admitted Science Geek) :-)

  16. Dan says:

    Yes go Tigers! Do they stave off elimination to force a game 7? Lets hope so! Max needs to dominate and bats need to be hot!

  17. Vincent(N.E.Kent CO) says:

    Rain and ice falling from above here 10 mins ago.

  18. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

    The sun is out!!!! With a temp of 51 here in NW GR

  19. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

    We had a nice shower of ice pellets while I was at the Muskegon Farmers Market this morning. It even covered stuff for about one minute. lol I was excited to see some winter-like weather!

  20. Cliff(Scotts) says:

    Ice pellets

  21. Austin says:

    NICE…Look at all those 40 degree days next week and lows getting to the low 30′s!!! LOVE!!! WINTER IS COMIN…DEAL WITH IT!!!!! MUAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…cause you can’t stop it baby!!!!

    1. Austin says:

      A nice and cool 49 degrees here just outside Grand Rapids with scattered rain and sun poppin out now and then…BADA BA BA BA…I’M LOVIN ITTTTTT!!!!!! :)

  22. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

    I got 13 out of 13 on the quiz too. I thought 2 of the questions were a bit tricky though.

  23. Jack says:

    Sorry Bill, Not UP for a Weekend SCIENCE Quiz . Because, When It Comes to Science it’s all GREEK to ME, and I’m just a OLD FREAK. Plus The EAGLES sang ” The Greeks Don’t Want NO FREAKS” ! Yeah this Song here CUE:: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVNbD1nySlw. ;-) .

  24. Jack says:

    ***** STAR GAZERS********. Saturday, October 19
    Look about a fist-width above the Moon this evening for the main stars of little Aries, lined up nearly horizontally. Keep Looking UP!!! And Stay CUEDDDDDD !!! + Go TIGERS!!!!

  25. Nathan (Forest Hills) says:

    I got 10/13 on the quiz… not bad considering that I just began taking high school chemistry :)

    1. GunLakeDeb says:

      Good for you, Nathan! A basic knowledge of chemistry can help you throughout life!

  26. Vincent(N.E.Kent CO) says:

    It turned out to be a pretty decent day. Besides one 20 min rain/sleet shower earlier and right now,I was able to get a lot of stuff done outside. Go Detroit Tigers!

  27. Mike (Mattawan) says:

    I got 11 out of 13 right. And im happy that cooler temps are here. Ill be sick of them in a week but until then..,

  28. Nick says:

    I went outside and grabbed some hail or ice on of the 2 and it was between a 16th of an inch and a 10th of an inch woo hoo

  29. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    I got 12 out of 13 correct. That is a little better than the RDB model accuracy rate!

  30. Mark (East Lansing) says:

    Hey everybody, Flint was one degree over average today (high temp was several degrees below average) for the 25th consecutive day!

    That’s gotta be a record, but it probably isn’t.

  31. Got some good ice pellets in Gratiot County late this afternoon, as well along with a rainbow at the same time. Love it up in Gratiot County!!

  32. Jill C. says:

    I got ten correct. Not too bad for a language arts person! ;)

  33. Ray says:

    Got some pretty good lightning by Burlingame and 28th in Wyoming!

  34. Well I got 11 of 13 on quiz, I can live with that. After watching J Walking I can leave my dunce hat in the closet for now.

  35. South central Gratiot had farmers say it was a whiteout with hail and snow late this afternoon, hope to have pictures from one of the farmers soon.

    1. Hey Mark I was up in your neck of woods (Brekenridge) this afternoon and I ran into that area of precipitation. I was at the exit for Bannister when it moved through. It was wild! White was everywhere and when it departed there was a rainbow! Got a picture of the rainbow but not the snow

  36. mr. negative says:

    SE GR – What was that noise? October thunder?

  37. Had 1 lightning bolt come out of the small shower hitting my area and that was all. 1 lightning bolt and nothing else. And it struck the tree about a couple hundred yards from my house. Scary stuff! made me jump!

  38. ~Sherry~ (Comstock Park) says:

    I got 12 of 13 on the quiz! Go Tigers!!!

  39. pony says:

    ground is white with pea size hail north of Ravenna at 10:00 p.m.

  40. arcturus says:

    Small hail near 44th & Breton at 10:05 pm.

  41. Ned S. (Now in South Holland) says:

    Lightning, thunder, rain and snow between Hudsonville and Holland around 9:30. Just had a period of hail and graupel about a half hour ago in Holland.

  42. Ned S. (Now in South Holland) says:

    More hail falling even as I hunt and peck at the keyboard. :-)

  43. Click Here to see a picture I snapped of the mixed precipitation showers NE of Greenville. There is a faint rainbow in the lower left part of the pic also. It was a photogenic day. The fuel pump stopped working though on my truck while I was out. So a friend of mine towed me to the repair shop. I will get a price quote Monday. Hoping it’s not much. I have a whole $1.00 in my wallet. Think they will take that as a down payment? Haha.

  44. Jerry hoag says:

    Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!! The Tigers Lost :-( well maybe next year, like us getting severe weather next year!!

    Did love the lightning, thunder and hail tonight!!!

  45. Jerry hoag says:

    Well bloggers, I most likely won’t be again til the first big snowfall episode is to hit us. Tomorrow (today), Sunday the 20th is my 19th year wedding anniversary!!! So I will be enjoying my wife.

    1. Jerry hoag says:

      I meant enjoying the day with my wife!!! Sorry :-( Opps….

    2. Jack says:

      ENJOY A WAY JERRY!!!! Stay Cued…. ;-)

  46. Eric (SE Mason County) says:

    Had what my guess wasgraupel in Muskegon yesterday around 6pm. Had some lighting after 8pm on the way home from there and continued off and on. Now it appears to be possibly hailing here in SE Mason County.

  47. Radar is showing the color blue over Reed City where they are likely recieving light snow and then it also shows pink over Big Rapids

  48. Also to note: Light snow is falling near Alba in Antrim, County

Leave a Reply