Snow in Michigan!!

October 21st, 2013 at 4:08 am by under Bill's Blog, Weather

Snow ewen  snow newberry UPDATE:  2.6″ at Lake Linden in the U.P. and 1″ near Ironwood.  Check out more webcams at   Snow on the ground at Michigan Tech.  This is accumulating snow in Ewen (left) and Newberry (right) Michigan in the U.P. Sunday evening (from Marquette NWS).  The buoy 3 miles off Port Sheldon was reporting 7-8 foot waves shortly after midnight Tues. morning.  There’s a Winter Weather Advisory out for parts of Upper Michigan for 2-4″ of new snow.    Also from MQT NWS, the difference between sleet and graupel.  NWS Duluth says:  “Getting some reports of 2 to 4 inches from Pine County, Minnesota. Interstate 35 is pretty slick according to reports we have received from travelers in that area.”   SPC has a chance of lake-enhanced thunder in N/NW Lower Michigan and the Lake Superior shoreline of the U.P.   NWS Grand Rapids going for a chance of mixed snow showers from Monday night through Friday night.   The GFS plot hourly high temperatures (actually high temps. will be a degree or 2 higher) for Monday PM to Saturday are:  46/45/43/44/46/45 with 31 Sunday AM.  We’re 33 Friday AM with an 850 mb temperature of -7.  We could easily see snow on the ground (at least on grassy areas) if that verifies.  The European would take temps. east of US 131 down a little below freezing Weds., Thurs. and Fri. mornings with a 524 thickness and a low of about 28 Friday AM.  I don’t know if the models are quite catching the warm lake water, which might give us a couple-degree boost.  The European says we may have highs in the mid-upper 40s from Monday afternoon thru next weekend with another cold front to reinforce the cold air after that.  After early this AM, the European doesn’t take our temperature above 50 the rest of this month!   From Joe Bastardi:  “I have been looking back through the years and I can not find anything this cold at the end of October until we go back to 1976.”  1976-77 was the coldest winter than West Michigan has had in the last 109 years!    ALSO:  There was a meteor at around 7:33 Sunday evening.  The Orionid meteor shower will peak around dawn Monday morning.  AND:  Hurricane Raymond formed fairly rapidly off the west coast of Mexico and will gradually move west away from land.  Another typhoon (Francisco) will move toward Tokyo.  Recurving typhoons often cause upper level troughs to form in the Eastern U.S. and that usually means colder than average weather for Mexico.  This latest recurving typhoon should lock the trough over the Eastern U.S. until at least 11/2.   Cold air is also building in Siberia.  Oymyakon reached -19 on Saturday AM and they are 3.4 deg. cooler than average for Oct.

ALSO:  “October 20, 2013: *Historic Waterspout Event Over Great Lakes* As of 4 pm EDT, a total of 66 waterspouts/funnels were sighted over the lower Great Lakes today (54 Lake Ontario, 12 Lake Erie). More than this number likely occurred.”  Here’s one.  At least one waterspout was seen off Berrien Co.   Finally, the Mary Poppins sequel that almost was.

90 Responses to “Snow in Michigan!!”

  1. kevin. w says:

    Lovin’ the snow here in Marquette its pretty with some of the fall colors still on. Hooray!

  2. INDY says:

    WOW who said cold and snow in in October ……INDYY

  3. Travis (Oakland County) says:

    Well, it was a completely average weekend over here. -1 on Saturday and +1 on Sunday. My streak of 24 consecutive warmer than average days finally ended – barely. Muskegon’s did too, although they still had a warmer than average weekend overall.

    Still +6.1 for October.

    Looks chilly this week but nothing too out of the ordinary for this time of year.

    Lots of warmth in Alaska and northwestern Canada that should eventually make its way here. Take a look at Anchorage: They’ve now had 8 consecutive days of +10 degrees warmer than average or greater and are +7.2 for October. It was warmer in Anchorage over the weekend than GR.

    1. Mark (East Lansing) says:

      Thanks for the update.

    2. DF (SE Mcih) says:

      Finally a Flint update… I barely made it through the weekend.

    3. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

      Its always nice to have a little different prospective on events.

      1. Lisa (Caledonia) says:

        I agree!

    4. Cliff(Scotts) says:

      Usually the weather in michigan is the opposite of alaska, so I don’t know how that corresponds with your logic Travis, look at the west cost and east coast. The weather pattern has flopped and now they are warm and we’re cold, where is that warm up?

      1. SBPortage002 says:

        He is trying anything to justify it will be warm here, grabbing on to anything he can…I never look to Alaska for our temps.

    5. Teresa says:

      generally, if it’s cold here, it’s warm in Alaska.

      1. Bill Steffen says:

        That’s often true…ridge there, trough here and visa versa.

        Anchorage is 7.6 above average for October – which about balances the 7.2 deg. below average they were in April. In the last 8 months in Anchorage, four months have been warmer than average and four have been cooler than average. Assuming October winds up +7.6, Anchorage is still -0,2 from average for the last 8 months.

        Read this:

    6. Michael g (se gr) says:

      That’s not precisely how it works big guy .

  4. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

    While here in GR we have not had a wide spread frost nor a freeze yet this fall(officially the coldest has been 37°so far) that said we will not have a frost or freeze warning this fall either!

    Not sure if I have ever seen that happen before we even had a heavy frost or freeze!
    Right now here at my house I now have a temp of 50° with cloudy skies.
    While I do not have the daily temp reports from October 1976 the mean temp here I October that year was a cold 45.7 while this year October here in GR is running at 57.5 but I do recall it getting very cold in late October in several years in the mid 1970’s and it was either 1975 or 1976 when we had a good snow storm in late October. Also this from today’s NWS back in history….

    On October 21 in Southwest Lower Michigan…
    It is one of the coldest mornings on record in western Lower Michigan with temperatures falling into the teens. Grand Rapids falls to 18 degrees, the lowest October temperature on record.

    1. Travis (Oakland County) says:

      Thank you, Slim. I tried bringing this up earlier but, as usual, the snide comments followed.

      Definitely looks like it may happen this week, but, you’re right, it’s too late – no more warnings til next spring.

    2. Austin says:

      Slim…not to make you sound…well…stupid…but Fall lasts till December 21st or 22nd…I am VERY sure we will have a FROST or FREEZE WARNING still this Fall!!! HAHAHA Now if you mean this OCTOBER…than you could possibly be right. But as for FALL…we are ONLY a month into the season dude!!!

      1. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

        Well Austin I did not think the NWS office would change the Public Information Statement link as fast as they did…..BUT if you used you so call skills you may have seen that while there will be a frost and then a freeze some time this fall there will NOT (or should not) be a frost or freeze warning issued by the GR NWS office according to their statement from 8:30an issued on October 21st… your search skills leave much to be desired here is that statement…..


        Next time you want to call someone “stupid” you better look in the mirror

        1. Cliff(Scotts) says:

          hence why northern Indiana is in a frost and freeze watch while southwest Michigan is not.

        2. Mark (East Lansing) says:

          Boom! Roasted!

        3. yooper4021 says:

          Nice work Slim!

      2. Lisa (Caledonia) says:

        Meteorological autumn begins September 1, and meteorological winter begins December 1. ;)

        1. Bill Steffen says:

          The coolest high temperatures (38 and colder) run from Dec. 2 to March 4.

  5. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

    BTW its now getting to be late October and here in GR we still have almost all of the leaves on the trees still. Looks like there will be a lot of people raking in November or maybe they will wait until next spring, I have not made up my mind yet if I will rake this year or next LOL

  6. Dan says:

    Hey Travis,
    I missed it by about a week. The cooler air is definitely coming our way. There is also some rain and snow showers mixed in the forecast. I called for us to get cooler by the 18th or 19th. I missed it by a few days.
    Does it stay cool or does it warm back up? I know, you said warmer by Halloween.
    I’m thinking cooler!

    1. INDY says:

      One thing for sure Dan NO 60′S FRIDAY!! INDYY

    2. Travis (Oakland County) says:

      It really just depends when the block stops. Hard to forecast that. The warmup is definitely still there, but the models have pushed it back a couple days into November.

  7. INDY says:

    Travass come’s with a lot of baggage with his comments on Bills blog after the slack !!!!! It’s cold outside 45* out thee YARDofBRICKS !!!! INDYY

  8. ron (wayland) says:

    Listened to Joe B’s weather summary on Weatherbell and he stated that this is not the beginning of winter for the Midwest and that it could warm up in November.

  9. bluegill says:

    Coming back to Michigan tomorrow after three months in Santiago, Chile. Leaving 70′s and sun for this forecast? Actually, looking forward to everything Michigan!

  10. Austin says:

    Some of you are so FUNNY!! EVERY. SINGLE. YEAR we have jumps between cold and warm…average temps, below average temps, above average temps. Some of you act like those stupid drivers the first time it really snows…they get into accidents and don’t know how to drive in it…when it happens EVERY YEAR!! We OFTEN have where it cools down a bit…then warms up a bit…then cools down a bit…it is NOTHING new!! Stop trying to make every little weather change the end of the world…when the weather does what the weather does. Most of you on here just seem to be grumpy old men!! So STOP being “MR GWUMPY GILLS” and just ENJOY the weather that we have each day!! This is Michigan baby…the weather shifts as faster than beliefs in DC…get used to it!! AND LOVCE IT!! Or…hahaha…just get out!! lol

    1. Travis (Oakland County) says:

      LOL Excellent post. So many people get sucked into the news and their incessant desire for ratings.

      “Snow in October in Northern Michigan!!” Nothing unusual about that in reality. Same song and dance, different year. Enjoy every season! I know I can’t wait to go skiing this year, but I’m also going to enjoy fall.

      1. Bill Steffen says:

        There’s nothing wrong with a “desire for ratings”. Now, Travis – click on a banner ad!

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    2. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

      Day to day week to week changes in the weather is what happens when one is located about half way between the equator and the north pole.

  11. INDY says:

    We see u Jim Leyland Thee YARDofBRICKS Thanks u!!! When It’s Time It’s time!! let it snow let it snow let it snow 45* now cold!!!! INDYY

  12. Dan says:

    Austin: It is a weather blog for crying out loud! I’m not acting like its the end of the world. I had a prediction that I made to Travis regarding a cool down since we were above average for a few weeks. You should know that MANY of us here are weather junkies! I am always looking for big changes!

  13. Judy says:

    I remember a mid October snow storm within the last 10 years that dumped a significant amount of snow on us….somewhere around the 13th-14th, and I think it might have been around 8-10 years ago.

  14. Barry in Zeeland says:

    This is the perfect time to have cooler temps along with windy conditions. That way the big lake will cool off faster, thereby giving us LESS lake effect snow later in December or January. Surly we do not want the big lake at 60 degrees yet in December. Keep the cool winds blowing for the next week or two!!

    1. Bill Steffen says:

      This is why I don’t make a big deal about a warm lake in Sept. and Oct. Often the lake cools back to average before it gets cold enough for snow.

      On a slightly related note…we had warmer than average water temps. in the Atlantic/Caribbean this fall, but very little hurricane activity.

  15. Nathan (Forest Hills) says:

    It is going to snow in michigan! How unusual! Btw I learned how the lake works in the winter today. When the temperature goes down on the waters surface, is 4 degrees cel jus the coldest it can be before it sinks?

  16. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    I see Travis is still living in fantasy land. He is talking temps in the 60′s while we have a long stretch of highs in the 40′s! We will be getting hammered with lake effect and synoptic snows this winter. Get ready to ROCK!

    1. Rodey (Rockford) says:

      Is that the same fantasy land that you live in. Fantastic. I love it. Thanks for listening.

      1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

        fixxxer = brain dead!

        1. Rodey (Rockford) says:

          Thanks for listening. I love it.

  17. INDY says:

    Temp has falling down to 42* out of thee YARDofBRICKS with a few snow flakes in thee air!!! Don’t remember it being so cold before Halloween !!!! INDYY

    1. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

      Really? Anybody else seeing any? I’m gonna go for my normal walk in an hour…maybe I’ll see a few too. :)

      1. michael g (SE GR) says:

        I wouldn’t bet on it.

  18. GunLakeDeb says:

    The wind chill is brisk, when you’ve got a bunch of open ground (or water) for the wind to whip across!! I was trying to put a tarp on a sailboat and tie up wet ropes. Should have had some gloves on – the wind chill was painful…..

    1. GunLakeDeb says:

      I forgot to add: to ME, the difference between graupel and sleet?? Sleet HURTS when it hits your face – graupel, not so much….LOL!!

      1. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

        Haha! Good way to explain them. Another difference: sleet bounces off your sleeve, while graupel sits on your sleeve for you to admire…

        1. Jack says:

          Question… What is a MIX of Sleet & Graupel CALLED ? Hmmmm… Open for Suggestions ?? Lol.. Staying CUEDD!!! ;-)

        2. Bill Steffen says:

          How about “slopal”

        3. Jack says:

          Like it Bill !! It Will be Interesting. What other Bloggers Come Up With !! Mine is “sCRAPel” ! LOL.. Here is a Song for The Sky’ s Look the Last Few Days, and This Week !!! SPIN :: Enjoy, I’m outta My Mind on This MOANING MODAY! Stay CUED!!!

        4. WhatBillwantstosaybutcant says:

          Jack, it must be nice to be higher than a giraffes butt hole all of the time.

        5. Jack says:

          LOLOL..WBWTSBC…. But it’s HIGHER Than a Giraffes ” eye brows ” ! And Jealousy Will Get U Everything !! Here is a TUNE on That NOTE( pun intended).. CUE:::: ;-) .

        6. GunLakeDeb says:

          If graupel and sleet are on a ski slope, Alpine skiers call it “corn snow” and it’s a riot to ski on!!!

  19. INDY says:

    It’s cold outside down to 39* out thee YARDofBRICKS….should we call this winter now!!!! INDYY

    1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

      Its winter in West MI, however it is at least 65 degrees in Flint and at the Travis fantasy land!

      1. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

        Day 1432879 of above normal…

        1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

          You got it Matt. Keep up the good work!

      2. Rodey (Rockford) says:

        Talk about fantasy land. Winter in west Mi? Pathetic. Just like you. You call out Travis but you are ten times as bad. What a joke. As always thanks for listening and commenting. I love it.

  20. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    Bring on the COLD and SNOW!

  21. We are tucked warm in our mitten tonight to avoid the freeze. Michigan didn’t put its winter apperal on completely for st joseph and branch county

  22. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

    I just saw the first snowflakes of the season a few miles north of Allegan. I had to stop on the side of the road for a minute, and make sure I wasn’t just seeing things, but it was definitely snow.

    1. Brian(Grandville) says:

      GRR NWS 6:30 update calls for the chance of frozen precip. for most of the CWA overnight now.

      1. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

        Haha. It was only flurries, but it was enough to get me excited!

  23. Mark (East Lansing) says:

    I can’t ever remember the blog being so excited for the first snowfall. LOVE IT.

    1. Brian(Grandville) says:

      Wait until the first snowstorm is being forecast. They will be like kids in a candy store all over again. Probably myself included.

    2. Mike (Mattawan) says:

      Gotta love being a weather junkie!

      Haha I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Not a fan of the snow and cold but I really enjoy the first snowfall as well as the first couple winter storms. They kinda make up for the lack of severe weather we see here these days… at least until I gotta DRIVE in it!

  24. Barb Egeler-Bailey says:

    Do you think I’ll be able to rake leaves in Cheboygan this weekend or will there be too much snow. There are still plenty of leaves on the trees up there.

    1. GunLakeDeb says:

      The ground is still plenty warm, even that far north. It’s going to melt fast…

  25. INDY says:


  26. Millekat says:

    Hearing some sleet hit the windows in NE GR. Yuck. Not ready for this!

    1. Jack says:

      Agree….Not Ready for This SHEET!!! Lol. Bring Back Spring….BILL!!!! ;-)

      1. Brian(Grandville) says:

        So the cold weather is Jack’s kryptonite.

        1. Jack says:

          Haha…Stay CUED….Says Dis ” Super Man ” !,, Hurry Spring!! ;-)

  27. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

    Just went outside for a look see and its not doing anything here at my house, The temp here is now at 40° and here is the web cam from Michigan Tech tonight as you can see there is now snow on the ground up there

  28. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

    Check it out…the ground is already getting covered in Gaylord. I know Gaylord is higher in elevation, but you would think they were at the top of a mountain with how easy it seems to be for them to get snow. Really, they’re only 600 to 800 feet higher than most of us…but that little bit, plus latitude, makes a huge difference!

  29. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

    My friends here in Muskegon are posting on Facebook that it was snowing about an hour ago. I missed it. :(

    1. Jack says:

      If My Memory serves Me Correctly MATT… You are a Snow Plower . I Hope ya Have a Long, Lucrative $$$$ , Winter Season!! I however Wish Was Still SPRING . Stay Cued ! ;-)

      1. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

        Thanks, Jack….but that is Todd in Nunica. :) I update Todd on the conditions here closer to the lake.

        1. Jack says:

          Ok, So My OLD Memory fails ME ! Pass it along 2 TODD ! God Bless & Stay CUED!! ;-)

  30. Brian(Grandville) says:

    Anyone else getting Oops!Page not found, when trying to click onto Bills blog, or threads? I’m using firefox, maybe its just me.

    1. Barry in Zeeland says:

      Yup, been getting that a lot lately. I use google chrome. Was wondering if I was the only one….

  31. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

    I have gotten that a couple times in the past month. Not today though

  32. Michael (Berrien county) says:

    If this northwest flow lake effect pattern came just a few weeks into Nov instead of right now, areas south & west of GR would be in for some big time snowfall over the next few days.

  33. Pamato says:

    I am in lake havasu az right now and it has been 90 every day I can’t wait to see snow down this weather is nice but boring.

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