Snow Flurries/Cold

December 6th, 2013 at 12:46 pm by under Bill's Blog, News, Weather

Local  batesville ice  We have flurries mainly in the lakeshore counties.   We’ve had 1-2″ of snowfall from Oceana Co. down into Allegan Co. and there have been some slide-offs and mostly minor accidents.   It’s light enough so that not all the flurries aren’t all showing up on the radar image here.  There could be another inch or two overnight into tomorrow AM in the lakeshore counties and maybe a dusting in the next set of counties inland.  Lake-effect snow was cranked up farther north, where a foot of snow fell in parts of the Keweenaw Peninsula.  Check out the webcam at Krupp’s Resort, where they are pushing toward 2 feet of snow on the ground.  A Lake-Effect Snow Warning is in effect for Houghton County until 1 am Sunday where another foot of snow will fall…plus drifting.  Lake-Effect Snow Advisories cover the northwestern U.P. and areas east of Marquette. Check out the cold temps. on the U.S. Low Temperature map.  This was as of 7 am EST, so many of these weather stations (esp. in the West) would have dropped another couple of degrees before sunrise.  The coldest on the map is -33 at Jordan MT.  There were a couple below zero readings all the way down to N. Arizona and N. New Mexico.  The band of snow and freezing rain from N. Texas to New York has cut power to hundreds of thousands of customers and hampered travel.  130,000 without power in  8″ of snow fell in Fairfield IL and 6″ at Bloomington IN.  Heavy freezing rain downed major power lines in W. Arkansas (picture from KARK is near Batesville  (and I won’t print the obvious line).  The average temperature in the U.S. at 9 am EST was just 18.0!  The coldest average temperaure for the U.S. all last winter was 18.9 at 8 am EST on 1/14/2013.  GRR at 23 was actually above the average!  Here’s record temperatures in N. American over the past 24 hours.  There’s a definite chance of at least flurries in Fresno CA.  The last snowflake they saw was on 12/15/08 and the last measurable snow was 12/20/1998.  It’s pretty easy to tell where the cold front is on the temperature anomaly map.  Here’s the morning run of the NAM forecast snow amounts…we’re between the snow areas…note the heavy snow north of S. Ste Marie.  WOW, look at the wind gusts recorded (in mph) from the gigantic low pressure system in N. Europe.  Look at the homes destroyed by the storm surgeStorm surge flooding in Hamburg, GermanyThis is Bremerhaven, Germany – where the tide level peaked at 10.5 FEET above usual sea level.

Here’s a live look at the Houghton Bridge.  Duluth MN reports 23.3″ of snow in the first 5 days of Dec. and 17″ on the ground.  In the U.P., Atlantic Mine has 20″ of snow on the ground, with 16″ at Painesdale, 13″ at the Bergland Dam, 9″ in Grand Marais and 6″ in Newberry.   Keep checking back to this thread for these links: Grand Rapids radar, Northern Indiana radar, Chicago radar, Detroit radar and Milwaukee radar. Here’s the College of DuPage Radar Map (pick any radar in the U.S.), College of DuPage Grand Rapids radar, the West Michigan Lightning Tracker, National Lightning Tracker, the local warning/advisory map and the National warning/watch/advisory map, and a surface weather map. You can checkout the latest Grand Rapids NWS discussion, the Northern Indiana NWS discussion (includes the Michigan Counties that border Indiana), the discussion for Northern Lower Michigan, and Eastern Lower Michigan. Check out Storm Total Rainfall (until they reset it). Here’s the Spyglass Condos Weather Station the S. Haven GLERL station, the Muskegon GLERL station, the Grand Haven Steelheaders webcam and weather station, and the weather station at Holland State Park. Check out the Maranatha Webcam at Lake Michigan and links to webcams. Here’s the infrared satellite loop (night) and the visible satellite loop (daytime), Lake Michigan water temperatures (summer). Here’s storm reports from SW Michigan, Northern Michigan, NE Illinois, SE. Wisconsin, Upper Michigan and E. Michigan. Check out the wind and wave height at the South Mid-Lake Michigan Buoy, the North Mid-Lake Michigan Buoy, the buoy at Big Sable Point near Ludington, the weather station at Manistee Harbor and the weather station on the beach at St. Joseph. Here’s Michigan wind gusts from MesoWest, data from the MAWN agriculutural weather stations and Weather Underground (data at the bottom from private weather stations.

We’ll have to watch for ice jams on Michigan rivers as the cold air settles in next week.  Here’s some river water temps.   Also, many inland lakes will be icing up in the next 10 days.  Beware of early thin ice.

121 Responses to “Snow Flurries/Cold”

  1. Mark (East Lansing) says:

    Aaaand comments on the beast of burden pic in 3, 2, 1….

  2. fixxxer says:

    I really hope the entire winter wont be this freezing cold.

    1. John (Holland) says:

      Why not move somewhere you will be more happy? Cold winters are normal in Michigan.

      1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

        John don’t bother – no matter what you or anyone else says he will be whining and complaining all year long! He will complain in the summer when it is sunny and 80 degrees. It won’t be warm enough for him!

  3. yooper4021 says:

    Interesting fact on the Duluth snowfall – the 23.3 inches was recorded on December 2-4. This was the 6th highest 3-day snowfall total ever recorded. Also, of the top 7 on this list, 4 of them have occurred since 2004.

  4. Travis (Oakland County) says:

    Looking at the webcams throughout Lower Michigan, it’s difficult to find even one place with any kind of measurable snow on the ground.

    Gaylord might be the winner with an inch or two on the ground.

    1. Mark (East Lansing) says:

      It has been dry, that’s for sure.

      1. arcturus says:

        Dry or just no snow? GR got a good soaking a few days ago.

    2. Bill Steffen says:

      2″ in Frankfort and the TVC area. It’s interesting to see the snow cover across much of N. Texas and most of Oklahoma. They had an inch of snow on the ground at DFW this morning.

  5. Mike in Hamilton says:

    More than a dusting here… not that there is a lot, but it’s at least an inch, as the ground is completely white out here west of Hamilton. My wife says Zeeland has slick roads, too…

  6. Mike in Hamilton says:

    Also GRR NWS radar is down at the moment… Not many returns on a dead radar! :)

  7. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    BARRY in ZEELAND you have become quite the tool! Thanks for listening and keep up the good work! You have just been nominated to lead the ROCKY fan club in 2014! Congratulations and get a life!

    1. SW Kent says:

      Rocky, please stop….we are sick of these negative comments. Thank you.

      1. Barry in Zeeland says:

        Must have hit a nerve with all his mindless predictions that never come to fruitation.

      2. yooper4021 says:

        So the guy likes snow and cold, big deal.

        How about calling out those that are constantly thumbing their nose at Bill and WOOD for the “cold bias” and poor forecasts??

  8. yooper4021 says:

    Several U.P. observations at 2pm have temps in single digits to low 10s, and wind chills below zero (Ironwood, Houghton, Iron Mtn, Menominee). NWS forecasts for western U.P. and Wisconsin northwoods show high temps of single digits for a week (with only the possibility of low teens Sun/Mon).

    1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

      Sounds great! I may head up North this weekend to find some SNOW to play in! I love it!

  9. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    I love the temperatures today! Keep the COLD air coming. I would be happy if the high temps all winter never got above 25 degrees! Now bring on the the SNOW! GR is on target for 5 to 10 inches of SNOW next week!

  10. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

    We’ve had flurries to light snow all morning and afternoon, but only a light dusting so far. The “Christmas eve movie type snow” comment earlier was a perfect way to describe this snow.

  11. Mike in Hamilton says:

    Just went outside to measure: 1.5″ on the level
    Lowest spot was 1″ highest 2.5 (grassy spot)

  12. Nathan (Forest Hills) says:

    Snow, snow, snow, snow

    1. Nathan (Forest Hills) says:

      The NWS just mentioned that significant snow is possible along and west if US 131 from Monday-Thursday! I’m waiting for the full discussion though.

      1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

        Who knew? Certainly Barry in Zeeland did not have a clue!

        1. SW Kent says:

          Rocky, please do not come on here and make comments to other posters that continue to be negative….just stop.

        2. INDYY says:

          No it’s berry…..INDYY

        3. Rocky (Rockford) says:

          SW Kent – give it a rest. Don’t waste your energy!

        4. SW Kent says:

          I’m going to call you out until you stop ripping people…….just stop.

        5. yooper4021 says:

          SW Kent…let’s be fair here. It takes two to tango.

  13. John (Holland) says:

    The snow has basically stopped now. We’ve got a dusting on the grass, that’s about it.

  14. John says:

    Update this afternoon from the NWS mentions the possibility of significant snow accumulations west of 131 next week! At least they still sound confident!

    FXUS63 KGRR 061939

    239 PM EST FRI DEC 6 2013


    ISSUED AT 238 PM EST FRI DEC 6 2013





    1. Nathan (Forest Hills) says:

      Don’t trust the models this early. The NWS knows how to read them well and correct their mistakes. If the models print out less moisture than expected, the the NWS will correct it in their forecast and the models will be wrong and print out less moisture then what will occur.

  15. John says:

    Hey Matt there was a report of a inch in Spring Lake, is that how much you have?

    1. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

      I’ve been at work in Norton Shores…but I talked to my wife and she said the grass is covered at our house. So, probably!

    2. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

      From the looks on radar, it looks like the area around where we live, over to Fruitport and Nunica have gotten it the most around here.

      1. Todd In Nunica says:

        funny we posted same time

        1. Todd In Nunica says:

          your comment was not there till i posted mine…lol

    3. Todd In Nunica says:

      close I would say, but I didnt see a full inch, and depends on where in spring lake, I have just been out running errands, from say sherman and 31 area, down through fruitport (which includes some spring lake areas but mainly the northern most “spring lake” areas) and to my house in nunica, grass is covered, roads are slick, but a full inch, I would have to see it to believe it, looks like 1/2 to me. Now in the village of spring lake and the closer you get to the lake practically nothing. In fact the grass was still showing and roads are dry.

      1. Todd In Nunica says:

        drove pontaluna from Fruitport to hoffmaster park (like 4-5 miles) was slick as heck in fruitport, not a flake once you got to hoffmaster

      2. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

        Haha…we were posting at the same time. Yeah, I live in the northern most “Spring Lake” area, about the same distance from Fruitport and Spring Lake. It is amazing how different the weather can be just from where I live and down Spring Lake Rd. to Ferrysburg and Spring Lake. I usually have more snow! :)

  16. John says:

    We have had about a half inch of snow today, looks like more is on the way maybe two more inches then another 2-3″ Sunday night into Monday could put me at 4-5″ of snow by the end of the weekend! :)

    1. Nathan (Forest Hills) says:

      That is still way less then what we should have gotten with these cold temperatures.

      1. John (Holland) says:

        I just checked Acculess… presently they have no snowfall at all from the 18th to the 30th. Please let that not be so.

        1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

          The Acculess long range forecast is a computer generated forecast utilizing the GFS model, therefore it is one step above worthless!

        2. michael g (SE GR) says:

          Beyond 15 days it’s not even from the GFS. Maybe a crystal ball or something….

  17. John says:

    The NWS is saying that 4-5″ of additional snow is possible by tomorrow night for lakeshore areas and maybe even more! :) so much for the lack of moisture the GFS printed out this weekend! :)

    1. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

      That may be the case BUT here in GR other then a few flurries the ground to bare with NO snow and the temp is a cold 23°

  18. INDYY says:

    One thing for sure its below normal across the state of Michigan 19* degrees out at thee YARDofBRICKS 2nd day in a roll below normal temps state wide we have 22 more to go in the month of December!! INDYY

    1. Jack says:

      JEM Model ” Fry”day UPDATE !!! ” Blizzard Conditions” Still ” On TAP”….4 Last WEEK OF DEC.!!! Stay Cued & Tuned & And GET READY ….4… Another JEM Model…..HOMERUN…..back back,back…………GONE!!!!! ;-)

      1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

        Sounds Great – Blizzard conditions this Tuesday and then a full blown blizzard later in the month! I love it!

        1. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

          I would not expect any Blizzard conditions in the near term and as for long term…..Blizzards are rare here in Michigan!!!

        2. John says:

          Blizzard conditions are not all that rare here at the lakeshore it only takes a little wind here to create near whiteout or blizzard conditions, but yes inland of lake Michigan blizzard conditions are rare or impossible unless a big storm with really strong winds comes!

  19. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    I like the looks of the conditions for lake effect SNOW for the GR area on Tuesday and Tuesday night. Increased moisture, a small disturbance and a WSW or West 15 to 25 MPH wind! Can you say COLD and SNOW with Blizzard conditions! Imagine that!

    1. arcturus says:

      Just like you said about today, right Rock … uh, Indy?

      1. INDYY says:

        Auctures Who??? INDYY

        1. Jack says:

          It’s JUST aTOY….Indy,and Rocky…ECT . See HERE FOLKS:::: Stay Cued& LOLOLOLOO… Happy FRYday Yeeee ALL! :-)

        2. Rocky (Rockford) says:

          That is about right Jack – we all know who arcturus really is :)

      2. Rocky (Rockford) says:

        arcturas is delusional! For the last three weeks I have been saying the COLD and SNOW will be hitting the week of 12-8-13 and guess what, it is about ready to hit. Imagine that! Sit back and enjoy people!

      3. Dylan says:


        1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

          Sit back watch, learn and enjoy!

    2. michael g (SE GR) says:

      Yeah, the GFS has been pretty consistent with that disturbance moving by on Tuesday for several runs in a row. If there is enough moisture around, that’s the kind of thing that can bring us several inches of snow here in GR.

      1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

        Rock On michael – get ready to ROCK! That will be out best chance for lake effect SNOW it will be hitting GR baby!

  20. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

    Looking ahead after the cold next week we could stay in a some what dry pattern as it the CPC thinks that it will be wet to our NW and SE with a dry slot heading up towards Michigan we shall see!

    1. John says:

      Even if we were to get a dry slot freezing rain and or drizzle would takes its place creating more travel havoc!

      1. John says:

        For Sunday night!

  21. Jack says:

    BILL: My Wife & I, LOVE THE TIE !! You are wearing Tonight. HISTORY if Ya PLEASE ?? Thanks..& GOD BLESS…….STAYIN CUED…. 4 TIE HISTORY? ;-)

    1. Bill Steffen says:

      The tie is a Carlos Tomasini original. I’ve worn it a time or two already, but probably not with this suit.

      1. Jack says:

        Thanks Bill, The Tie Certainly LOOKED Great with that Suit . Keep Up, The Great Work of Delivering The WEATHER FACTS.. GOD BLESS & Merry ” CHRIST”mas. !!! :-)

  22. Dylan says:

    Hrrrrmmmmm…I thought there was some CRAZY hype going on about how we would get WINTER STORM WARNINGS and the like here today…barely even flurried here in Grand Rapids!! ;) Believe me I want snow too…but all the hype before anything happens is annoying. hahaha And it certainly does not make it snow peeps…just sayin yo!! Hopefully we get some snow next week…but until it happens…not gonna believe the HYPE…cause RARELY is it accurate!! lol

    1. Jack says:

      ***** JEM MODEL**** equals ….NO HYPE, JJJJUUUSSSSTTT FACTS!! Stay CUED for the LAST WEEK of December !! Also maybe Even Some ” Bob”….. DYLANNNNNNN. Hahahahhaha peace… ;-)

    2. John says:

      That was INDY no one else was posting about winter storm warnings he over hypes everything! But always has great humor when we all lose hope he never does!

      1. Rocky (Rockford) says:


      2. Dylan says:

        HAHA…yea…I know John…I just wasn’t going to call anybody out. haha I try to not be a total jerk on here unlike a few peeps!! lol And I don’t mean you btw…just wanted to make sure ya knew that!! hahaha

        1. Dylan says:


        2. John says:

          Haha yeah I know but I was using INDY as a good way, he is the best non loser of hope on this blog!

        3. John says:

          And he entertains me a lot! :)

  23. INDYY says:

    It’s cold outside 17* now with light snow out thee YARDofBRICKS !!! Getting dark outside!!! WINTER IS HERE!!!! INDYY……….

    1. Jack says:

      Hey NEPHUUU INDY…Uncle Jack Got T-SHIRT UUUUU …For Your ” SPRITES” point Forecasting at THEEEE YARDofBRICKS —- IWS…. Check it Out :::: Lol… Give me CALL.SOOOONNNNN.. :-)

  24. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    My NWS point forecast gives me 4.6 inches of SNOW by Wednesday AM! Imagine that!

    1. Dylan says:


      1. Rocky (Rockford) says:


    1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

      This is the GFS for next weekend. A SNOWSTORM is brewing. We all know that you can count on the 9 day GFS forecast model :)

      1. Jack says:

        ROCK- n~ ROLL… The Week of the 8th, Stil Lookng Good Rocky ( Re: RDB Prediction). Stay Cued… ;-)

  25. At least unlike last year were in the game and several chances are starting to give some hope for snow lovers.

    1. Nathan (Forest Hills) says:

      Yea, this is 500 times better than last year for sure. We had strong storms in November and the coldest early December air since 2000. Now there will be chances for LE several times next week with accumulations likely!

  26. John says:

    As is the case the GFS weakens the system for Sunday night and the lake effect next week while the NAM increased snowfall amounts for the Sunday night system and for the lake effect next week! I trust the NAM way more than the GFS as the GFS changes 24/7! At least next year the GFS model will be replaced hopefully that makes a difference in it!

  27. So I see the NWS has changed their forecast from earlier. Before the LE sounded like a bust but now it appears at this point were back in the game for significant lake effect??

    1. Mike in Hamilton says:

      started snowing around 10am, and hasn’t stopped since… about 2″ now…
      no record breaker, but looking a lot better than the gray and brown ground!

    2. John says:

      It’s possible, not quite likely yet we won’t know anything until the week is over lol!

  28. John says:

    We have had about an inch today here, it has been snowing all day! The NWS has in their grids for me an additional 2″ of snow by tomorrow night and another two Sunday night! So five to six inches of snow by the end of the weekend seems like a good bet for the Norton Shores area! :D

    That sounds significant to me! As of now!

    1. John says:

      Key word though “possible” so don’t get you’re hopes to high yet!

      1. Jack says:

        Look on the Positive Side, at Least it doesn’t Say ” Impossible” !!! Lol…stay CUED, and Never Give up HOPE!!

        1. John says:

          Yep that’s the positive side! :)

        2. Jack says:

          Yes John, Life is to Short to Worry About The Negative . I Place, trust, Hope, even My Victories ..IN CHRIST ALONE !!! Amen…Cue, Micheal English ….God Bless You :::: :-)

  30. John says:

    I hope we end up getting more snow from the Sunday night system than is anticipated right now! We got more snow last week that was anticipated we had eight inches when only five was expected! The NAM model shows at least a 9-12 hour period of moderate snows Sunday night!

  31. Dan says:

    Ok, we have got the colder air. NOW, we need a decent dump of snow or three of them in the next couple of weeks! I bet we receive about 4 inches of snow on Sunday night. It will stay around for a few days with the reinforcing shot of arctic air!!

    1. John says:

      Yeah I think well recieve more than what is anticipated right now! The models seem to underestimate snow amounts all the time!

    2. Jack says:

      Yes, Dan…This Winter COLD Blast is Just a Precursor , for The JEM Model Prediction on ” Possible BLIZZARD Like Conditions ” Coming on The LAST Week of THIS MONTH….Stay Cued, and Be safe & Well… :-)

  32. Dan says:

    Jack congrats and your sobriety! Keep the fight! I’m praying for you, bro!

    1. Jack says:

      Thanks, Dan !!! Yay GOD !!! :-)

  33. Dan says:

    Looks the NWS is unsure if the temps truly will moderate next week Thursday and Friday! I bet, they stay a bit below average for this time of year! WINTER is HERE! WINTER is HERE! The phone books are here! The phone books are here!

    1. Jack says:

      Steve Martin….Nice !!

  34. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

    We have about an inch of snow at my house with fluffy flakes still coming down. It is amazing how much it decreases like one minute down the road. I went to Grand Haven tonight and there was nary a flake on the ground.

  35. John says:

    WZZM has the mention of considerable lake effect snow amounts Tuesday-Wednesday next week, so now we have the NWS and WZZM latching onto some good snowfall accumulations Tuesday-Thursday! :)

  36. About a half inch where I’m at in BC. Will only get more snow accum here on our

  37. Dylan says:

    JOHN…So I know that there are a million variables to next weeks weather…but without HYPE and stuff…does it look like Grand Rapids could POSSIBLY get some good LE snowfall???? Or at this point does it look mainly Lakeshore? Again I know it really is any bodies best guess right now. Im all about being positive…but I also am old enough to know how to be be realistic. haha

    1. John says:

      I think Grand Rapids could get in on some of the snow how much? Anything is possible so well have to wait and see!

  38. John says:

    I was reading George lessons Facebook and he Mande a comment that said some places could receive 12-18″ of lake effect Tuesday-Wednesday, so he’s expecting some significant lake effect snow! Let’s hope he is right! Because WZZM seems to be wrong a lot!

    1. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

      What happened to the “On Target” forecast?? But then where is the town of some place?

      1. John says:

        They say their on target or near target everyday but most of the times they are not! But there are times where they are on target!

  39. INDYY says:


  40. Nice to see snow again on the radar, looks like some heavier bands setting up. Should get get some good accumulations through the night!

  41. Jim S (Saugatuck Twp) says:

    I’ve only had a few flurries today. Typically, with decent winds and a west wind flow, I don’t do so well near the lake. Hamilton is 15 min away, and I have heard they have 2″.

  42. Mike in Hamilton says:

    I made a comment earlier about how “perfect” the snow flakes were. i got a couple of shots:

    1. Jack says:

      Very Nice MIKE!!! And to Think, each Snow Flake is “Perfectly” Different !! Ahhh Beauty and Life, and LOVE in Snow Flakes . GOD IS SOOO GOOD!!!! Amen ……

  43. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

    22° here with a few snow flakes. But nothing on the ground as of yet!

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