Midweek Radar and Links

December 17th, 2013 at 11:33 pm by under Bill's Blog, Weather

Local   We’ll start a new thread with radar and links.  Cool and active weather pattern continues into next week.  Looks cold for the period between Christmas and New Years.  More on that in the thread below.

Links: Grand Rapids radar, Northern Indiana radar, Chicago radar, Detroit radar and Milwaukee radar. Here’s the College of DuPage Radar Map (pick any radar in the U.S.), College of DuPage Grand Rapids radar, the West Michigan Lightning Tracker, National Lightning Tracker, the local warning/advisory map and the National warning/watch/advisory map, and a surface weather map. You can checkout the latest Grand Rapids NWS discussion, the Northern Indiana NWS discussion (includes the Michigan Counties that border Indiana), the discussion for Northern Lower Michigan, and Eastern Lower Michigan. Check out Storm Total Rainfall (until they reset it). Here’s the Spyglass Condos Weather Station the S. Haven GLERL station, the Muskegon GLERL station, the Grand Haven Steelheaders webcam and weather station, and the weather station at Holland State Park. Check out the Maranatha Webcam at Lake Michigan and links to webcams. Here’s the infrared satellite loop (night) and the visible satellite loop (daytime), Lake Michigan water temperatures (summer). Here’s storm reports from SW Michigan, Northern Michigan, NE Illinois, SE. Wisconsin, Upper Michigan and E. Michigan. Check out the wind and wave height at the South Mid-Lake Michigan Buoy, the North Mid-Lake Michigan Buoy, the buoy at Big Sable Point near Ludington, the weather station at Manistee Harbor and the weather station on the beach at St. Joseph. Here’s Michigan wind gusts from MesoWest, data from the MAWN agriculutural weather stations and Weather Underground (data at the bottom from private weather stations. Check out the webcam at Krupp’s Resort, where they are pushing toward 2 feet of snow on the ground. Check out the cold temps. on the U.S. Low Temperature map. Here’s the morning run of the NAM forecast snow amounts. Here’s a live look at the Houghton Bridge.

We’ll have to watch for ice jams on Michigan rivers as the cold air settles in next week. Here’s some river water temps. Also, many inland lakes will be icing up in the next 10 days. Beware of early thin ice. Check out our new Lakes and Rivers Webpage.

358 Responses to “Midweek Radar and Links”

  1. Mr. Negative says:

    Just a guess…windy, with rain changing over to snow. Not sure if anything like this has ever happened around these parts -

    1. Jack says:

      4 score and Twenty Years AGO…. I think… ;-)

  2. Paul M says:

    The low is going threw southern tip of Illinois. Thru Indianapolis to just south of Toledo and West Michigan is going to get dump on with hvy snow!

    1. Brian(Grandville) says:

      That would be the perfect track. Models are going to have to go through some major changes for that to happen. We shall see.

      1. Jevon Murphy (Chicago) says:

        Yeah, we’ll have to wait for the system to come onshore for the models to get a better handle on it!

  3. Brian(Grandville) says:

    00Z NAM has the low over Indianapolis at 84 hours, with the rain/snow line somewhere over west Michigan.

    1. Jim S (Saugatuck Twp) says:

      Looks like rain south of 96…sleet freezing rain north..and snow further north…but that only goes through 84hrs with the low over central IN…further runs appear likely to move that rain snow line further north as the low gets closer.

      1. John (Holland) says:

        Are the models adequately accounting for the amount of snow on the ground and how much pressure the cold air will have in pushing the storm south?

        1. Jim S (Saugatuck Twp) says:

          No clue…I would assume to some extent. All I know is when the storm track is too far NW, everyone suggests the models aren’t taking into account the snowpack and the models will move it back SE. When the low is tracking too far SE, everyone suggests that the low will be stronger and that stronger lows will end up going further NW. There’s a blog in Milwaukee, Chicago, Detroit, etc….and the snow lovers are all playing the same game. All you can do now is cross your fingers.

        2. Brian (Grandville) says:

          Thats still my biggest question thus far John.

      2. John says:

        I do not trust the NAM at all

  4. Cliff(Scotts) says:

    A strong system like this happens maybe every 30 years. They have no idea where it is going!!! Per Chicago nws. These next couple days will be interesting.

  5. Owk says:

    Looks like slimjim the miserable old man is still wanting a snowless x-mas. Move to the south with your crappy attitude.

    1. John says:

      SlimJim is just doing his job at keeping the blog informed, I’m sure he wants a white Christmas as well but is just explaining all the possible dynamics with this storm!

      1. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

        Slimjim often says the opposite of everybody else and makes sure everybody knows there is another side to things. I find it somewhat irritating, because I feel like Im listening to an elementary teacher… But to each their own. It’s his contribution.

        1. John says:

          Yeah I find it irritating too but it is what it is!

        2. Jordan (Twin Lake) says:

          Slim is entitled to his opinion just like you. He usually contributes more than most on here.

  6. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

    I’m not sure what some are looking at, but 00Z NAM looks good from about Holland to GR and Northward…

    http://wxcaster.com/gis-snow-overlays.php3?STATIONID=GRR

    1. Kevin(Rockford) says:

      And NAM doesn’t do so great with snowfall totals, BUT looks like a fine line between happy and sad times.

    2. Jim S (Saugatuck Twp) says:

      The 6-8″ totals are including the few inches the NAM is giving them from the snow tomorrow night through Friday.

      1. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

        Yeah, I assumed that…so it looks like there will be some on the weekend too, since it only goes out to 84 hours. I’m looking forward to the snow tomorrow night! :)

  7. John says:

    The NAM also gives areas between US 10 and 96 freezing rain tomorrow night into Friday morning up to a tenth of an inch possible. The Friday morning commute could be very slippery with the possibility of some kids starting their vacations a day early

    1. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

      Blah. I think it’s mostly snow though tomorrow night, isn’t it?

      1. John says:

        Notice the yellow, that is freezing rain, looks mostly snow north of U.S 10 but we could see some snow mix in which could still give us a couple inches of snow! :)

        http://weather.rap.ucar.edu/model/displayMod.php?var=eta_sfc_ptyp&loop=selected&hours=hr27hr30hr33

        1. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

          Yuck. Interesting that there are three waves of precip on the NAM…and the second two are all snow for the Muskegon area. Well, pretty much all three are wintry precip. for us.

  8. Brian (Grandville) says:

    I have seen a lot of storms track to the NW in December before, just missing us. I have yet to see it happen with this much snow on the ground, and off the SW. Anything can happen I guess, still a few days to sort out the exact details. Should be fun to track, or not.

  9. Kevin(Rockford) says:

    Not sure why we are all waiting for the 00 GFS as we will all call it names and not believe it anyways.

    1. Bnoppe says:

      It does bring in the cold air a little faster

  10. John says:

    Based on the last couple runs of the GFS it looks like areas between US 10 and I-94 could end up having a significant icing event Saturday night into Sunday I really do hope that does not pan out, I would rather nothing over a big ice storm 3 days before Christmas!

  11. Jack says:

    JEM Model FUN UPDATE on This Wacky Wasted WED. When it comes To Sorting out all The So-called Models RUNS. All I can Say is ” HELP MR.WIZARD”"”". CUE;:: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuvQRdDJtLA. I used to love this cartoon anybody else ?? STAYIN Cued…

  12. Jack says:

    Hey, Did ANY ONE HEAR Kyle UNDERWOOD say….He wished He COULD Pin Point The Adress or intersections ,as to Well The HEAVIEST SNOW? Well , I KNOW FOR A FACT WHERE THAT WILL HAPPEN in G.R. It Will Be at INDY’s YARDofBRICKS !!! Now that’s a PIN- POINT forecast from, INDY’S UNCLE JACK!!! Right ???? Indy…… Stay Cued & TUNED……….. ;-)

  13. John says:

    WZZM says that up to 1/4″ of ice accumulation could fall tomorrow night along and north of 96 I think that is a bit much, I am going with 1/10-1/15″ of ice accumulation which would still make roads very treacherous!

    1. Jack says:

      John, It Does NOT Take Much Freezing RAIN ! To make The Roads Treacherous . So I think there WILL BE, School CLOSINGS and or Delays !! Friday’s A.M. Commute Should be Very ” DICEYY” to Say The Least…..stay Cued & Happy THERAPUTC THURSDAY…… PER:: The JEM…… ;-)

  14. Paul (Yankee Springs-Barry State Game Area) says:

    Kyle was just saying that it appears to be tracking further south again on the latest model run…..

  15. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

    There is finally some agreement in the models. 00Z GFS, 00Z NAM, and 00Z Canadian have almost identical tracks through 84 hours…keeps the Low SE of us. GFS has shifted the Low about 100 miles SE since the 12Z run. Canadian has shifted the Low about 200 miles SE since the 12Z run. They are basically the exact same track as what the 12Z European model has from the December 17th run. That gave everyone from the 2nd row of counties and north a shot at heavy snow accumulations. Now we just need the models to continue on this track for the Low, or maybe still a little SE. These 00Z solutions might have us flirting with the dry slot.

    1. Brian (Grandville) says:

      Sounds good, last run of the Canadian had the low in NW lower Michigan, hopefully it trends south. What will the new Euro say later tonight?

      1. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

        Yes, the Canadian has had the Low over NW for every run until tonight’s run. If the Euro is close to the other models, then we should gain some confidence in a possible storm track.

      2. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

        over NW lower Michigan*

  16. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

    Here is a link to the GFS with animated precip for Saturday/Sunday. Gives everyone snow from I-94 and north. Mixed precip south of I-94 to Indiana border.

    http://models.weatherbell.com/news/gfs_2013121900_ptype_slp_conus2.gif

  17. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

    Pretty much all the models are heading to a solution more to the Southeast, which is good for us in getting more snow. If we get a solid layer of ice tomorrow, the snowpack will not go anywhere soon. A layer of freezing rain on top of snow is a GREAT preserver of snowpack. I should know…I grew up in South central PA…cold air damming central…many ice events!

    1. just weather says:

      Matt, anywhere close to Bedford?

  18. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

    Here we are around 2:30 PM on Thursday December 19th the string of consecutive below freezing Days has been broken here in GR and I now have a mild temp of 40° with cloudy skies. Still waiting to see what might happen over the next several days. Will get rain? Maybe. Will we get freezing rain? Maybe. Will we get snow? Maybe. Will we get all three? Could. But hey its almost Christmas and we all should be happy knowing that no matter what happens Christmas will be here next week and most of us will have a great day no matter what kind of weather we get this weekend. Enjoy.
    SlimJim

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