Season Snowfall, Model Data Update and Flood Potential

January 29th, 2014 at 4:27 am by under Bill's Blog, Weather

snow northern michigan  Click on the image to enlarge.  This is snowfall for N. Lower Michigan so far this winter courtesy of the Gaylord NWS.  They update the graph daily here.   Traverse City is up to 102″, Petoskey to 124″ and Gaylord to 134″.  Grand Rapids is up to 77.2″ (compared to 19.7″ at this point last winter).  Even with average snowfall the rest of the winter, we’ll top 100″ in G.R.  The first two weeks of February look cold.  Muskegon is at 95.3″ with 25″ on the ground, Lansing is at 39.7″.   Holland is up to 95.5 for the season.  Detroit is going to have their snowiest month EVER! – probably over 40″.  Flint will come close.  Wellston in E. Manistee Co. is up to 129.6″.   Delaware in the U.P. leads the pack with 222″ so far this winter.     Overnight The Keweenaw County Road Commission advised that M-26 was closed between Eagle River and Eagle Harbor due to severe blowing and drifting snow.  In the U.P., the Mont Ripley- closed yesterday due to low temperature.    Mount Bohemia – is not just reporting excellent conditions, they are reporting “epic conditions”.

Our snow and cold continues…it’ll be breezy today with drifting snow and some light flurries, mainly in the AM, we’ll be 15-20 deg. this afternoon.  The overnight run of the GFS-plot has the temp. in G.R. getting to the upper 20s Thurs. night, then no warmer than 21 thru 2/14.  The model has 3 more mornings of zero and below in the next 2 weeks.  I think that’s too cold, but still…wow!   The European model would have an inch of snow Thurs. (more NW of G.R.), another 1/2 to 1″ Friday PM, 2″ Saturday with up to 4″ at the Indiana border.  We get to the upper 20s Friday and that’s the warmest the European has to offer thru 2/5.   Both models push the storm for the middle of next week mainly to our southeast and just keep us in the cold air with occasional lake-effect and weak clippers.

With the cold and deep snow cover, I remained concerned about spring flooding.  Check out my previous blog on the earlier floods on the Grand River.   Note that floods on the Grand have come in pairs (1904, 1905 and 1947, 1948)…so will we have a second flood in 2014?  Also note that the flood last year was 33,700 cfs.  We have had past floods significantly greater than that.  In the 1904 flood, there was water covering most of downtown G.R. all the way west to John Ball Park – covering the entire West Side.   A flood of the volume of 1904, 1905, 1947 or 1948 is certainly possible again.

143 Responses to “Season Snowfall, Model Data Update and Flood Potential”

  1. Dan says:

    I want to address Tomkap. Tom I don’t pray for devistation and horrible hardship for people! I love the winter weather! Plain and simple! This winter has been a good one for snowfall and winter weather. It sickens me to hear of accidents, devistation and even lives lost based upon the weather! PEACE!

    1. fixxxer says:

      But you wish for this arctic cold to continue. Talk about back peddling danny.

    2. TomKap (GR-Michigan & Fuller) says:

      I wasn’t pointing to you with my original comment, but to a couple others who are oblivious to the negatives, and only care about what feeds their ridiculous desires. You’ll see it again ad nauseum when the tornado season starts. It borders on insanity.

      1. TomKap (GR-Michigan & Fuller) says:

        Praying for tornadoes is just plain wrong.

      2. fixxxer says:

        Rj comes to mind.

      3. Michael g (se gr) says:

        Praying for tornados or wanting cold changes nothing. The current weather would still be just as much of a hardship for people and animals if I sat around all day and b**** ed about it like you. I guess somehow you get to feel morally superior by disliking it.

        1. BigCountry(Wyoming, MI) says:

          You nailed it, Michael. We can’t change it so we might as well enjoy it. The world is full of life and death and if someone hasn’t gotten a grip on that by their adult life, well, maybe it’s time to. I pray all be safe in any weather but I also pray for precipitation for the farmers and others who need it for their livelihood.

        2. Lisa (Caledonia) says:

          Exactly the way I feel!

  2. John (Norton Shores) says:

    Cedar springs, Rockford and Sparta are closed

  3. Brett says:


  4. Jim S (Saugatuck Twp) says:

    Yesterday it looked like we were heading into an active pattern with storms lined up. Now, Saturday’s storm looks weaker and further south, and the big storm for next week is not even shown to come close to us. Cold is still the rule.

    1. Mike (southeast Berrien county) says:

      Yeah once again the GFS is all over the place with it’s storm tracks unfortunately.

    2. Michael g (se gr) says:

      Hard to believe how much it’s changed in a day, but the good news is that it can change again just as quickly. The one constant in the models is that the cold (and therefore the snow on the ground) isn’t going anywhere, anytime soon.

  5. TomKap (Michigan St. & Fuller) Grand Rapids says:

    I thank SOMEONE UP ABOVE that that STUPID storm next week will miss us! That would be the last straw for me! This crap must end.

    1. fixxxer says:

      Agreed tom.

    2. BigCountry(Wyoming, MI) says:

      It’s by no means guaranteed that it will stay on its current southern track. It hasn’t even been sampled yet, lot of time to go before we write it off

    3. yooper4021 says:

      Have you heard of Arizona? Florida? Maybe you guys should head south for the winter instead of whine the entire season.

    4. Don’t thank him yet, it’s not next week, he just might enjoy pissing you off

  6. I can’t believe we got another snow day lol. I was thinking a two hour delay!

  7. Stevekentcity says:

    I get sick of all the hype. I snow plow for a living with 8 trucks out every time it snows. This winter is killing me. Then when u hear of all the storms we are going to get one night then the next morning nothing just makes me go nuts! Just give me a weeks break and then I will be fine.

    1. Brenda (Otsego) says:

      We all need a break, for sure.

      1. TomKap (GR-Michigan & Fuller) says:

        We need a PERMANENT break!

        1. fixxxer says:

          Bring on the 80′s.

    2. Craig (Holland North Sider) says:

      Yes! I usually don’t countdown to spring but may have to start this year. No more snow!

      1. Hugh says:

        Agreed. This is getting long and tedious. Holland has had more than their share!

    3. Hate Lake Effect (NW) says:

      I agree. I plow too Me and my guys are at wits end. Not just the excessive snow falling, but the constant follow ups for 3 days after from city plows burying drive ends (Walker 1 day, GR 4 days).. Get all clean, and snows again. Equipment and people need a break. 14 hours straight plowing last Saturday. I get on here to get insight from people with good weather knowledge (Bill, Cory, etc). Call me a sore loser, but I now can’t even read the snow lovers greedy post. Ha! Nothing fun about missing christmas, new years, weddings of good friends, or even just a night out to relax, because a slave to the snow. This is payback from 2 winters ago. There has to be a happy medium for snow lovers and us snow haters.

  8. fixxxer says:

    Looks as wyoming has school. :)

  9. Nathan (Forest Hills) says:

    Its still a little early to assume that the storm will miss us to the south. Hopefully the models move it back up here, there is still plenty of time. But either way, we are still gonna get 1-4 inches tomorrow night, 2-4 Saturday, and then probably more lake effect next week with the possibility of a storm. Wow I hope GR reaches that 100 inch mark! Does anyone know how much snow Whitehall has? I remember they got that big lake effect snow dumping earlier in the season with 18 inches of snow. They must be pretty close to Muskegon’s total.

    1. TomKap (GR-Michigan & Fuller) says:

      He says ‘hopefully’. You want another 15″?
      You’re nuts.
      I’ll add you to the list.

      1. fixxxer says:

        *Winter nuts x1000

      2. Michael g (se gr) says:

        Add me too, if I wasn’t there already. No one cares.

      3. BigCountry(Wyoming, MI) says:

        Don’t forget me, Tom. Put me on the list of those who doesn’t get stressed by things I can’t change!

      4. DF (SE Mich) says:

        Guys, you live in one of the snowiest places in this country… I’d get over it already, or move over here :)

        Well we are going to set the snowiest month ever…

        1. Deb says:

          DF – What’s it looking like on the east side of the state for Friday? My husband has to go to a class in Warren from Grand Rapids Friday Morning? I worry about him going across the state on these bad bad bad roads. 96 is one of the worst heading east.

        2. DF (SE Mich) says:

          The highways are fine over here once you get out of those lake effect areas on the west side.

      5. Nathan (Forest Hills) says:

        I am crazy about the weather so Ill take any extreme besides a tornado! Just as long as people are safe.

    2. Cali103 says:

      Hey Nate if you love the snow so much why don’t you move to the U.P. We’ve already have had a season’s worth of snowfall this year and we don’t need any more major snowstorms.

      1. Bruiseviolet (CedarRock) says:

        If you dont like the snow why dont you move to Miami? :p. I read some opinions today backing that the model tracks are “smoking crack” and that the storm will nail the great lakes. It wont go south or north. Interesting reads.

  10. Jim S (Saugatuck Twp) says:

    What a difference. Yesterday’s 12Z version of this map had much of West Michigan getting 2 feet of snow over the next 16 days…I was in the 27-30″ category. The 06Z now has me in the 5-6″ category over the next 16 days.

    1. suehelen says:

      I like this map much better than yesterday’s map.

  11. Michael g (se gr) says:

    Down to 6.4* below normal for the month, and over 40″ of snow in GR!! Lowest snowcover on any day this month was 5″.

    1. BigCountry(Wyoming, MI) says:

      Those are some impressive numbers, and like Bill said, even with average snowfall from here we’d be guaranteed 100″+

  12. Travis (Oakland County) says:

    See ya, arctic air!

    1. BigCountry(Wyoming, MI) says:

      Right on cue! First day with highs back in the double digits (still well below normal) and Travis shows up! Talk about a drive by.

      1. Michael g (se gr) says:

        He’s trying SO hard. :-)

      2. Travis (Oakland County) says:

        I’ve been here all along! Loved the snow and mid 20′s last weekend. Looking great this weekend too. Sorry you missed me.

        PS Lighten up and try being nice

    2. DF (SE Mich) says:

      I think you said that 3 week ago ;)

      1. Travis (Oakland County) says:

        Must have been right then because we had a nice 8 day mild stretch there! ;)

        1. DF (SE Mich) says:

          True. That stretched averaged +8, while the current nine day and counting stretch is averaging -15°.

        2. Michael g (se gr) says:

          Ah yes, the “seasonal” air mass.

  13. Michael g (se gr) says:

    -3.1* in December, -6.5* or so in January, how about we go nuts and aim for a -10* in February.

    Surprisingly, I just got my January gas bill, and my usage was only up 10% over last month, and 7% over last January. Not nearly as bad as I feared.

  14. DF (SE Mich) says:

    The GR NWS update the record for yesterday saying the average temp was a record as well.

    206 AM EST WED JAN 29 2014




  15. DF (SE Mich) says:

    Departures from average for January, so far:
    GR: -6.4°
    Lansing: -8.2°
    Muskegon: -5.4°
    Detroit: -9.2°
    Flint: -7.0°
    Saginaw: -6.6°
    Alpena: -7.3°
    Houghton Lake: -6.2°
    Sault Ste Marie: -6.5°
    Marquette: -7.9°

    This will go down as the most abnormal month since March 2012, we won’t beat that month at around +13° or more.

    1. Ben (Charlotte MI) says:

      Are you sure Flint isn’t +7? :)

    2. Travis (Oakland County) says:

      My March 2012 was +15.4!

      This month will also come close to my May 2013 (+5), December 2012 (+6.1), July 2012 (+5.6), May 2012 (+6). Not too shabby.

      1. DF (SE Mich) says:

        Just the facts from me while actually mentioning warm. Most abnormal since March 2012.

  16. INDY says:

    travass is on the blog everyday just with a flock of other cold names!! INDYY!

    1. Travis (Oakland County) says:

      Only one name here, Indy

    2. Rodey (Rockford) says:

      Pretty funny, coming from the person who has several different names on here right Assdy?

  17. Michael g (se gr) says:

    With snow days, Christmas (excuse me) holiday break, and records days (whatever those are), and weekends, my sons school has now been closed 31 of the last 42 days. A lack of money is NOT the problem with our education system.

    1. DF (SE Mich) says:

      Snow is? Kidding. Are they going to go to school until July at this rate?

    2. DJ2450 says:

      My wife was a stay ay home mom. When our children were young and school was closed we would have home school. We kept learning materials on hand for just those occasions. We viewed those days as opportunities to teach our children things that may not be taught in school. I understand that many parents both work and this would be difficult to do. However, for those than can take the opportunity to teach. You don’t have to have a teaching degree to be a good teacher.

      1. Randall says:

        Man am I glad I wasn’t your kid haha

      2. Barb says:

        As a teacher, I’m a proponent for year-round school. It is much better in so many ways–weather being one of them.

        1. Brad (Van Buren) says:

          As a Parapro, I’m not a proponent for year-round school. I have a summer job and I need the summer job to make ends meet. If there were year round school, I would only be able to have 1 job that pays below the poverty level. I would quit and go back into the private sector. As it stands now, I like the extra time I get with my family.

  18. Mark (East Lansing) says:

    Boy, we need a change in the weather pattern. People sure are grumpy.

    1. DF (SE Mich) says:

      Use “people” carefully since the two people with at least 5-6 aliases a piece are arguing about aliases.

      1. DF (SE Mich) says:

        Not you Travis by the way.

  19. Heat Miser says:

    I think we might be getting that weather pattern change for at least West Michigan. They called for 1-3 inches of snow for the lake shore last night and we got nothing. So I went to the Canadian Ice maps…Wow what a difference a day makes. Lake Michigan is frozen over 56% of the way between Ludington and Wisconsin and the Lake is about 58% frozen as of last night. A strong wind could change all of this, but very impressive this morning.

    1. DF (SE Mich) says:

      That link isn’t working for me, but it might for others. Just in case here are the maps.


      2nd highest ice coverage in the satellite era.

  20. yooper4021 says:

    Marquette NWS office is now up to 54 consecutive days without an observed temperature >= 32 degrees – tied for 7th place all time. 72 days is the record, set in 1979.

  21. INDY says:

    West Michigan will get more snow in February then January!!! Clippers will turn into big storms the gulf is getting warm!!!! INDYYY……

  22. Mike (southeast Berrien county) says:

    Looking forward to more snow with this weekend’s system. Just ease up on the cold some though. 25 above temp with lillle wind is a heck of a lot better than -25 or -35 wind chill! Makes it difficult to get out & enjoy the snow when it’s this cold out.

    1. Mike (southeast Berrien county) says:


  23. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

    Gee it’s a rather “warm” +12° here this AM. Right now its cloudy here but there appears to be no snow falling at this time. I also see that GR is now up to 77.2” of snow for the season so far. I have to say that is very impressive. Also while some areas went clear the other night and that sent them down to well into the double digits below zero. I still think there is a chance that if we can clear out area wide (of most of the area anyway) we will have at least a few more chances of getting into that double digits below range again. And that should get easier as the lake now has more ice on it and the open waters are getting colder. Of course the wind that coming will also tend to break up the ice and bring up some warmer water.

    1. Mike (southeast Berrien county) says:

      It cleared & was in the double digits below zero here again this morning. BRRRRR!!!!

  24. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

    Now for the upcoming month generally I would put up the “averages” and go with that to start. But all indications this year look like the month of February will start off cold. Now as for how much snow we will get? Well I believe we will see less and less lake effect and if its stays cold the big systems could go to our SE so we could be dryer and have more sunny days (some what warmer) and more clear and colder nights. As for any big storms? I would watch out for March! And that big storm (if it comes) could be either snow, ice or rain! And of course watch for spring flooding and yes I think some time in the next 30 to 45 days we will see a “rubber band” effect and it will become much warmer.

    1. INDY says:

      When we get 30 more inches of snow In February Slim I hope u can still call the weather from your window!! Yes spring is coming but not so fast on the big warm ups!!! INDYY…..

    2. John (Norton Shores) says:

      Looks like we could possibly warm up around the middle of February if Acculess weather is correct

      1. INDY says:

        Yeaa we could to use a thawww this winter!!!! INDYY….

      2. Cali103 says:

        Yeah I just looked at the entire 45 day forecast which extends all the way past March 13 and the warmest temperature it gave me was 42 :(

  25. Gail says:

    How much snow recorded in Spring Lake/Grand Haven?

  26. kevin. w says:

    Some on here keep wishing for more snow and cold but it all has to melt sometime. I think one big very warm storm with alot of rain (which I think will come this year) will shut down the winter nuts on here. Don’t get me wrong I like winter and all the other seasons but not to extremes like this winter and the summer of 2012. I hope everyone has extra sump pumps generators and emergency plans cause a huge snow melt will make for flash flooding this year especially with very deep frozen ground.

    1. Boris says:

      You thinking end of Feb. or beginning of March for the start of the warm up?

  27. Jim S (Saugatuck Twp) says:

    12Z NAM is now a bit stronger for Saturday’s snow. It shows 1-3″ tomorrow, followed by a widespread 3-6″ for Saturday.

  28. steven (Derby Lake) says:

    Thanks Bill for the snowfall updates up north I was inquiring about.

    If we get a gradual warm up flooding may not be too bad.

  29. INDY says:

    Winter storm watches coming Friday for Saturdays snow storm!! That’s my thought!!! Better get 2 dirty 30′s for this storm!! INDYYY…..

    1. steven (Derby Lake) says:

      Watches? We want warnings

  30. Nathan (Forest Hills) says:

    Also, the NWS mentions an isentropic lift event will move in ahead of the cold front on Thursday. I think isentropic lift is when warm air is forced to rise ahead of the cold front because it needs to keep a constant density. The cold air simply undercuts the warm air. When the warm air rises it creates clouds and we get light to moderate snow (although SSW flow lake enhancement will enhance the snow even more near and north of Muskegon). So that will be the case tomorrow ahead of the cold front.

    1. John (Norton Shores) says:

      I have the feeling this one could be bigger than expected, sounds like more blowing and drifting snow tomorrow

      1. Nathan (Forest Hills) says:

        Yeah, its pretty windy right now too actually. Typically it get windy ahead of cold fronts too because of differences in air masses.

  31. Brenda (Otsego) says:

    The winds have really picked up here, whipping the snow all around and reducing visibility.

  32. sb(anchorage) says:

    Send the weather back up here!
    We’re stuck with the Pineapple Express.
    Avalanches, rain, melting snow, pussywillows!
    We want winter back!

  33. INDY says:

    Yeaaa with over 40 inches of snow on the ground whats 30 or 40 more inches!!! old fashion winter we have going!!! INDYY……

    1. Nathan (Forest Hills) says:

      Everyone keeps saying this is like an old fashioned winter. How many winters in the 60′s-80′s were this bad? How many times did GR have 75 inches of snow at this point in the season?

      1. Livinthelife says:

        I remember 77 and 78 being this bad or worse. All the others just seemed worse cause I was shorter and had to keep my feet warm with rubber boots and breadbags.

        1. Livinthelife says:

          I also remember playing outside late december, probably early 80s, with my cousins in 60+ degree weather.

        2. Brad (Van Buren) says:

          Same here….Saaaaaaame here. :)

        3. Not to mention that mile walk to and from school up hill both ways

        4. Livinthelife says:

          Mark you must have taken the same way to school I did! :)

      2. DJ2450 says:

        My memory may have faded some since the winters of the 60′s and 70′s. To me this reminds be of winters of the past because of the extended cold periods. With a few exceptions the cold has been relentless this year. Without looking up the facts it seems to me recent winters have been more of a yo yo ride. Cold and snow back to warm and bare ground and back to snow again. This winter the cold and snow just keeps coming.

        1. Livinthelife says:

          Hey Mark I am new to the blog and find weather to be fascinating- I went to your website and bookmarked it. I expect to learn much there. Great site

      3. BigCountry(Wyoming, MI) says:

        As far as total snowfall, it’s probably comparable. But, the big blizzard was much worse than anything we’ve seen since then. Imagine the overpass at 131and 144th street by Moline drifted shut and only being able to use airport snow removal equipment and heavy construction equipment to clear all the roads. Snowmobile was the preferred method of travel for a few weeks.

  34. Barb says:

    The City of GR and west side residents need to start preparing NOW for potential flooding this spring. Let’s not have our heads in the sand and then be surprised. The GR Press did a great series on the flooding last year and just how close we came to a much worse outcome.

  35. Livinthelife says:

    I sure have loved this winter so far, my 24 year old son now believes my stories of “real winters” when I grew up. Having said that I do empathise for the mom’s truck drivers, farmers and others. Sure goes to show how fragile we are on this big ol’ planet. In the grand scheme it could be slightly more severe then where would we be? Hey at least we aren’t the generation that had to deal with the weather in covered wagons or clapboard houses.

    1. Ansel says:

      I have LOVED this winter as well. This is what a winter in Michigan should look like.

  36. Deb says:

    DF – I posted a comment to you but I was way up the blog, not sure you will see it. How is it looking for the east side of the state for Friday? My hubby has to drive from GR to Warren Friday morning for an 8 o’clock GM class. Wondering how the weather and roads will be over there. I hate he has to drive 96 all that way. That’s one of the worst highways in MI when it snows.

    1. DF (SE Mich) says:

      The highways are fine over here out of the west side snow belt. I don’t think its going to snow much Friday. He picked the right day with snow before and after :)

      1. Deb says:

        Great! Thanks for the response. Wife’s worry ya know :)

  37. kevin. w says:

    My neighbor across the street had the insurance adjuster over to estimate the water damage in his basement from a frozen/broken water pipe. The estimate to replace the contents and fix the damage is about $68,000. Can’t imagine when the 2014 floods come how much water damage some people will have. I can see how record floods on area rivers and streets will have this year with all the snow, frozen grounds and amounts of water by one big warm up/storm.

    1. Deb says:

      Wow! That’s sad, a lot of damage just from a pipe. People along the river better start getting sand bags now.

    2. Ansel says:

      You never know, we could have an extremely dry spring going from one extreme to another. It seems to me weather is getting more extreme, not just here in Michigan but also the rest of the world. Patterns are harder to break. Drier drys, hotter hots, colder colds.

      1. Bruiseviolet (CedarRock) says:

        Opinion or facts?

  38. INDY says:

    Still 7* out thee YARDofBRICKS will we even make 20* that’s cold!! Now if just get some more snow that would make 6 days in a row with snow!!! And about well lost count now 53 or so days with snow on the ground over 300 sprites drunk down since Novi ………WINTER AT ITS BEST!! HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! INDYY!!

    1. Stacsh says:

      do you know where the º symbol is? learn it

      1. steven (Derby Lake) says:

        no, where is it???

        1. DF (SE Mich) says:

          Alt 0176

          I’m not sure why he didn’t just tell how to do it…

      2. INDY says:

        lol! Ok Mommy! INDYY..

        1. INDY says:

          **********************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************!!!! INDYY!!

        2. steven (Derby Lake) says:

          sounds like somebody has had to many snow days. lol

  39. kevin. w says:

    dgex model nuts for snow down south:

    1. Jeremy (Three Rivers) says:

      Last night that was us. Wait for the afternoon update. That model has had that storm for over five runs now.

      1. Ansel says:

        Please let it come back north. Sign me up.

    2. Ben (Ann Arbor) says:

      just missing the superbowl

  40. INDY says:

    We call February snow storm month!! Get your plows ready heck with shovels!! INDYY……

  41. Jeremy (Three Rivers) says:

    What’s the latest GFS say for Saturday?

    1. INDY says:


    2. 1-3 M46 south but Canadian is about 3-4 for most all of the area

  42. Jeremy (Three Rivers) says:


  43. steven (Derby Lake) says:

    Detroit Pistons game in Atlanta tonight is cancelled

    1. John (Norton Shores) says:

      And Detroit is
      Probably looking at them saying WHAT??? for 3″ of snow

      1. steven (Derby Lake) says:

        right. lol

    2. Mark (East Lansing) says:

      They probably can’t get to the arena because of all the stranded vehicles on the freeways.

      1. John (Norton Shores) says:

        True, I just have to laugh at the south haha!

        1. Mark (East Lansing) says:

          Yeah, I’m sure the people stuck in their cars for the past 20+ hours are laughing right along with you.

        2. John (Norton Shores) says:

          I’m just laughing because 3″ of snow to us is nothing but to them is a big deal, I’m not laughing at the people who are stranded, just laughing at the people who freak out about 3″ of snow but I should know that it is a big deal to them since I’m from the south

        3. Steve (N Moline) says:

          I’m sure it isn’t the 3″ of snow as much as it is the layer of freezing rain that coated everything right before the snow came down.

      2. Brenda (Otsego) says:

        Yep, it’s mainly about the ice. My daughter lives there.

  44. Jeremy (Three Rivers) says:

    Latest GFS back north with Saturday’s system:

  45. Tyler says:

    This winter has been an old fashioned winter for the entire Midwest! Cold and snow! Even 2008-2009 cant compare to this one as that winter really eased up after January that year. 07-08 was snowy but not nearly as cold as this year. I seem to remember 2003 having a stretch of bitter cold in that one but again that one didn’t last long and was mild. Looking back we haven’t had a winter this cold in the U.P. since 1995-1996. That winter was bitter cold, worse then 94!

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