Friday PM

February 21st, 2014 at 10:17 am by under Bill's Blog, Weather

Local   8:15 pm – The winds have backed off a little, but only a little.  At 8 pm, the Ford Airport was still 29 mph with a gust to 39 mph.   There was a gust to 38 mph at Holland last hour.  Skies are clear over much of the area, with clouds north of Big Rapids and moderate snow in far northern Lower Michigan.   My house was creaking in the strong wind and there was a 2-foot drift across my driveway that I had to shovel out before I could get here to work.      Peak gusts:  63 mph on the roof of GVSU in downtown G.R. and at the Holland Channel at Spyglass Condos, 61 mph Muskegon Beach, 60 mph Ford Airport in G.R. (fastest gust since 11/17/2013 and before that you have to go back to 2010 to find a 60 mph gust), 58 mph 2 miles WNW of Jackson and Ionia, 57 mph at GVSU in Allendale, 56 mph in Allegan,  53 mph Jenison, Jenison  and at the Muskegon Airport, 51 mph Fremont, Grand Haven, Big Sable Point, the Holland Regional Airport and Weare (Oceana Co.), 50 mph Bradley and Reed City, 49 mph East G.R.,  47 mph South Haven and Battle Creek, 46 mph Mt. Pleasant.   Visibility went to near zero at times, especially in rural areas.   Winds will diminish a little tonight, it will still be breezy on Saturday.  The Winter Weather Advisory continues until 7 PM.   Here’s current conditions.   At my house, it was getting close to a “blizzard”.  A blizzard is a visibility of 1/4 mile or less for 3 or more consecutive hours with frequent gusts above 35 mph.   The gusts qualified and we occasionally have a visibility of less than 1/8th of a mile out here in the country.   The visibility did vary but in generally,   As of 10:30 pm, there are 4513 Consumers Energy customers without power (a low number considering the wind gusts we have had), with about half of those in Shiawassee Co.  At 4:20 pm they have 136 customers without power in Ionia Co., 66 in Montcalm Co. and 57 in Kent Co.


Also, Japanese model (closest on the cold winter here in Michigan) says we stay colder than average in March.

Links: Grand Rapids radar, Northern Indiana radar, Chicago radar, Detroit radar and Milwaukee radar. Here’s the College of DuPage Radar Map (pick any radar in the U.S.), College of DuPage Grand Rapids radar, GFS snowfall for the next 120 hours and NAM model snowfall for the next 84 hours. the West Michigan Lightning Tracker, National Lightning Tracker, the local warning/advisory map and the National warning/watch/advisory map, and a surface weather map. You can checkout the latest Grand Rapids NWS discussion, the Northern Indiana NWS discussion (includes the Michigan Counties that border Indiana), the discussion for Northern Lower Michigan, and Eastern Lower Michigan. Check out Storm Total Precipitation (until they reset it). Here’s the Spyglass Condos Weather Station the S. Haven GLERL station, the Muskegon GLERL station, the Grand Haven Steelheaders webcam and weather station, and the weather station at Holland State Park. Check out the Maranatha Webcam at Lake Michigan and links to webcams. Here’s the infrared satellite loop (night) and the visible satellite loop (daytime), Lake Michigan water temperatures (summer). Here’s storm reports from SW Michigan, Northern Michigan, NE Illinois, SE. Wisconsin, Upper Michigan and E. Michigan. Check out the wind and wave height at the South Mid-Lake Michigan Buoy (Apr. to Nov. only), the North Mid-Lake Michigan Buoy (Apr. to Nov. only), the buoy at Big Sable Point near Ludington, the weather station at Manistee Harbor and the weather station on the beach at St. Joseph. Here’s Michigan wind gusts from MesoWest, data from the MAWN agricultural weather stations and Weather Underground (data at the bottom from private weather stations). Check out the webcam at Krupp’s Resort, where they are pushing toward 3 feet of snow on the ground. Check out the cold temps. on the U.S. Low Temperature map. Here’s the morning run of the NAM forecast snow amounts. Here’s a live look at the Houghton Bridge. Here’s the Consumers Energy Power Outage Map. We continue to watch for ice jams on Michigan rivers. Here’s Closings.

210 Responses to “Friday PM”

  1. on the grand says:

    I think in a way we have turned the corner, as late in the day as it is, the sun just came out and I have melting on the roof and water in the downspout. What I am guessing that with the longer days and the sun appearing more, even if it is very cold, we will be getting rid of the white stuff. The wind blew all the dusting of snow away. I have lots of ice around but ice seems to melt quicker. So I am upbeat. The wind is howling but I have seen and heard worse or maybe after last nite fight with mother nature, this is just a piece of cake.

    1. Julie says:

      I hope you are correct. Having a farm is hard stuff, not to mention 3 young kiddos who want to be outside everyday and can’t 1/2 the time. I hate this winter.

  2. Wswplz says:

    I think it was Alan who was asking questions about what is normal precipitation ect..this is an interactive map in which you can select your location to see what yours is for your area, I find it very useful…same data Rocky displayed and Cort explained. Thought you might enjoy.

    1. Wswplz says:

      * as you notice with the CPC outlook you van switch from 6-10 or 8-14 etc. (precipitation vs temperature ). I like the interactive maps a letter better since you have a little more data…usually pretty accurate most of the time.

  3. Wayne (South of GR) says:

    Measured 27 inches on the ground Tuesday morning and just measured 17 inches this afternoon.
    And it is a heavy snowpack for sure.

  4. Resourceful Nana says:

    Wow! 60+ miles south of GR made a big difference today. I couldn’t believe the white-out picture on the home page. The sun has been beautiful and no loose snow to blow around here. I drove in some fog “blowing” off snow drifts last night–eerie–wind and fog are not a normal combination. But the sun has warmed up the rooms on the south side of the house quite nicely today. I hope tomorrow is a pleasant winter-weekend day for everyone.

  5. Wswplz says:

    So is anyone glad we received rain yesterday? I know I wasn’t , although today I think I changed my mind as it cut down on drifting significantly.

    1. DJ2450 (Central Gratiot) says:

      Yes, my garden needed the rain. lol

      1. Wswplz says:

        Actually I hear it’s bad for snow gardens. :)

    2. DJ2450 (Central Gratiot) says:

      I don’t think the rain did much here to stop the drifting. You could already walk on it before it rained.

      1. Wswplz says:

        Almost everyone mentioned the snow compacted, I’m sure in some areas people didn’t get as much rain and that might be possible in your location. It would have been so much worse, it’s just hard to tell because the winds are so strong, so it’s still making a mess. It would also be worse for visibility and causing more frequent white out conditions. That’s just my opinion from watching the wind pick up the snow, from the different storms in the past.

  6. Beth (west Olive) says:

    So does anyone see any significant snow in our future???

  7. DJ2450 (Central Gratiot) says:

    By the end of next week we could have 19 days here this winter below zero. The NWS has 2 days below zero next week and we have had 17 so far. Usually we are colder than what the NWS predicts so maybe 20.

  8. Wswplz says:

    Okay, I have to say this since for many on this blog it is there favorite topic of discussion ” School Cancellations ”

    Can someone help explain why some schools were open, when it seemed pretty clear they should have been closed?
    Are there guidelines as it pertains to wind values and blowing snow, or is it a judgement call. I have read on the blog there are for wind chill values, but have not heard any information as it pertains to wind / blowing snow, although I’m sure there are in the case of a blizzard warning. Seems to me that many kids would have been put into a dangerous situation today, which could have been avoided….IMHO

    1. John (Norton Shores) says:

      The conditions got worse right after the kids got to school today, several Muskegon county schools did early releases today though, Montague, Fruitport and Reeths Puffer I believe. Should have just closed today and I’m sure they regret not closing.

    2. mk says:

      With that thinking, half this winter would be a snow day.

      1. Wswplz says:

        That’s why we have professionals do this thing called forecasting, you may have heard of it. Try and minimize the risk based upon what you think may happen, of course it is not a perfect science nor can it keep our kids out of harms way all the time. But we can learn from our mistakes mk.

        1. mk says:

          Bike helmets anyone?

        2. Wswplz says:

          Mk I understand you don’t learn from your mistakes as it seems you are living proof of one, which regrettably we get a glimpse of everyday by your well thought out comments. This we be my only response to you , unless of course you would like to meet for coffee sometime, my treat of course. :)

    3. Jack says:

      Who Cares….IMHO !!

      1. Wswplz says:

        If it was your kid you might. I don’t want to discuss it all the time just so kids can get a snow day, however I don’t want people put in near blizzard conditions when it could be avoided. I was on road today and if I had children I would not want them on the roads. IMHO

        1. Jack says:

          I have 3 Kids, 19, 18, and 15 !! I’m just sick of it Being Disscussed , after The Fact ! Makes no sense To Me,,,, What Does it Accomplish ?? NOTHING….stay cued…. ;-)

        2. Wswplz says:

          Jack for one I never bring up school closings and it probably wont change or accomplish anything, nor does discussing the criteria for school closings before the fact either. So yes nothing, and with that thinking so does most everything we all post. :) lol

        3. Jack says:

          Ha, True Dat…wswplz…. I was just playing the Devils Advocate I guess…..stay Cued ! For more’s FRYday after ALL… :-)

        4. Wswplz says:

          Yes, all in fun my friend as this crazy windy Friday keeps winding up. We need a storm to track Jack! So let’s cue that! The JEM has nothin but the facts! And RDB has another storm to rack! As we need more snow to stack ! What song to cue to that? :)

      2. Mark (East Lansing) says:


    4. AJ (Cedar Springs) says:

      I posted this earlier, but I’ll say it here too. What I don’t understand are the parents who get mad. If the roads are bad, keep your kids home. Don’t send them to school and then complain about it.

      1. Wswplz says:

        Yes, if they did in fact send them.

    5. Paul m says:

      School must call it by 5:45 am for snow days for school buses!

  9. Brian(Grandville) says:

    For those of you that want to give them a pat on the back, or point fingers at them, here’s your chance.

    1. Wswplz says:

      Where is the date, I didn’t see one?

      1. Brian(Grandville) says:

        Going on now through sunday.

        1. Wswplz says:

          Thanks….I hope it’s inside. Lol. ( I’m sure it is ). The boat shows I have been to have all been outside and most all of the boats are in the water, which would be hard to here in the winter. Much easier in Ca.

  10. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    As Bill has stated the COLD Siberian air will be rockin into to MI next week. Combine that with some SNOW and you will have another INCREDIBLE winter week and weekend and the BEST WINTER EVER! ROCK n ROLL will never die!

    1. mk says:

      Rocky wear your bike Helmont, prevent further damage.

    2. John (Norton Shores) says:

      18Z GFS doesn’t look as cold as previous runs for next week.

      1. Wswplz says:

        I wish I had a dollar every time I heard

        1. John (Norton Shores) says:


        2. Wswplz says:

          No just in general, not you in particular …..because that’s what the models do..hehe

    3. Jack says:

      CUE,for U….ROCKY Enjoy !!!!! ;-) . Stay cued….

      1. Wswplz says:

        Popular song, quite a few views..

  11. John (Norton Shores) says:

    The 18Z GFS is also back to showing a snowstorm around the 3rd of March, I think this is one we need to watch as the GFS doesn’t want to give up on that storm.

    1. Paul m says:

      We are due for a monster snowstorm

    2. Wswplz says:

      That would really be music to my ears, I would like to see at least one big snowstorm to cap of this season as it’s going to be cold anyway. If that storm were to verify, it could very well qualify and I agree something to watch for sure.

      1. Jack says:

        Can We Get to….# 1 ? for Snowiest WINTER EVER….hmmmmm….STAY CUED…….. ;-)

        1. Wswplz says:

          Left a post for ya Jack ^^^^ see above and cue below.

        2. Jack says:

          JEM Facts,,, RDB Fire,,,,,IWS Large and In charge…….. PERFECT All Winter Long !! In my HUMBLE Opinion This Song would Fit in a Fun Way….what else Can I say…it’s FRYday …Here is a ” PERFECT” CUE for The Best Weather Models EVER !! I HUMBLY SPIN ::: Lol…stay CUED..wswplz…. ;-)

        3. Wswplz says:

          In you’re humble opinion, yes you nailed that one lol.

  12. Jack says:

    Sunday, Sunday………. Next Event
    Day: Sunday
    Date: Feb. 23, 2014
    Location: Ann Arbor, Mich.
    Time: 12:00 p.m. ET
    TV:   CBS
    Radio:   Spartan Sports Network

    1. Wswplz says:

      Did you happen to catch the hockey game today? Those darn Canucks are on fire!! I’m sure your wife is letting you have it.

      1. Jack says:

        Nope, I slept till 2:30pm TODAY….zzzzzzzzzz, Neither did thee ole lady see Was Doing TAXES,,, So She is VERY Pissed OFF.. today ….darn Canuuuucckkks ….Hey Did ya see TheVideo of The CRACK Mayor dancing after Watching The Cannadian HOCKEY Games ?… Crazy..ilTry To Dig it Up and Post Later …or…STAYCUED…

        1. Wswplz says:

          No I didn’t, Mayor Ford or should I say Tommy Boy is a train wreck in constant derail mode, with a major collision in the near future. Post it if you find a clip…

    2. Dan says:

      going to be a great game!

      1. Wswplz says:

        Which one?

      2. Dan says:

        The basketball game and the hockey games!

        1. Wswplz says:

          The us lost already, both teams… But yes still good hockey to come, I’m just still upset. I thought the men were just plain outplayed today, where the women played one of the best hockey games I’ve seen (gender removed )but in that game they gave away it to Canada.

    3. Wayne (South of GR) says:

      Go BLUE!!!!
      Sound good Jack??

      1. Ben says:

        GO BLUE!! MSU lost in front of their raucous home crowd and with refs heavily in their favor to UM already and now come off 2 days rest to UM’s 5. UM will win by 10+.

  13. Dan says:

    Bring on the next snow storm! No ice pleasr.

    1. mk says:

      I think it would be cool to set an ice storm record, would be cool?

      1. Dan says:

        My last reply to you as it appears you have nothing better to do. mk you remind me of somebody who wants to argue about whether the chairs on the Titanic were made of wood or metal. Your posts are so incredibly insignificant. Do you lack purpose in your life? Are you sick? Do you crave attention ? Is this the only way you get your kicks? If you could contribute something worthwhile then just maybe you wouldn’t be perceived as a pimple or an incredibly small minded individual!

        1. fixxxer says:

          I wouldnt talk dan.

  14. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

    Well today a very snowy, windy day and its just goes to show you that not much snow fall is needed to create blizzard conditions. I am not sure how much snow fell today but the conditions were very bad with the wind and blowing snow we did have. Just think of how bad things would have been if we had gotten several inches of powdery snow and then had winds like today? Right now the skies are clear, that has been a rare event this winter (clear skies)

    1. Wswplz says:

      Yes very true about snow and “blizzards ” as I have always used that word to describe heavy snow , but as we know it’s often used very differently by the NWS.

      1. mk says:

        We need a monster snowfall, to fill in all the low spots. Bring it!!!

        1. fixxxer says:

          Your nuts. All of you are who want more snow.

        2. Michael g (se gr) says:

          Who’s nuts fix? Mk’s nuts? Why are talking about other people’s nuts? You’re not planning on posting any dirty pics again are you?

      2. Wswplz says:

        Ya, that would do it…

  15. Jack says:

    RE: Rob ” crackHead” Ford ::::…/see-rob-fords-reaction-as-can…

    1. fixxxer says:

      You just proved your indy and one of his 100 names of shame.

      1. Jack says:

        Lol..Far From IT.. Indy & I are Not The Same Person !! Coming from U,,, The bloger Who has more Names Than Carter Has PILLS!!, take 10 and call me in The MORNING..FIX!!!! Oh yeah……STAY CUED!! ;-)

  16. I am really getting sick of these polar vortex’s we have been getting. I can take the snow but the cold temperatures are just getting annoying now. My ideal winter would be finally warming up the first week of March. And having the trees starting to bud the first week of April

    1. Wayne (South of GR) says:

      Kyle, when it comes to weather, there is no ideal……every year has been, and will always be different.

      1. Yeah ik that but we usually we don’t get cold winters like this. This cold is relentless and it can stay up in the Yukon and the Northwest Territories.

        1. Wayne (South of GR) says:

          I agree, mid-April we will be in the sun and 60′s. like every year.

        2. fixxxer says:

          Im thinking we skip spring and go right to summer.

        3. mr. negative says:

          Funny…forecasting 60s this April -

    2. Paul m says:

      Just a normal winter in the 70s/80s.

  17. Wayne (South of GR) says:

    3-3 Snowstorm……GFS has been relentless in forecasting this one for 6 days.

    1. Jack says:

      For What it’s Worth…Here is what The OLE Farmers Almanac Has To SAY ….. MARCH 2014: temperature 37° (1° below avg.); precipitation 3″ (avg.); Mar 1-7: Snow showers, cold; Mar 8-11: Sunny, turning warm; Mar 12-15: Rainy periods, cooler; Mar 16-19: Rain, then wet snow, colder; Mar 20-24: Snow showers, cold; Mar 25-31: Rainy periods, mild. Stay Cued!!,

      1. Wayne (South of GR) says:

        Thanks Jack.
        Happy FRYday.

  18. on the Grand says:

    When my kids(grownup now) went to school, they never closed the schools. The buses did not run. It was up to the parents to get the kids to and from school. The school did not mind if you came late or left early or did not show up at all. All you had to bring was a note from the parent and the kids did the work at school and the ones that were no shows had to make it up as homework. Back then no one minded and there was no make up days. Life just moved on.

    1. Brian(Grandville) says:

      If it were only that simple.

  19. Jack says:

    Aurora Borealis Forecast for Friday, February 21, 2014

    Latest Forecast = in 44 minutes, the Aurora will be Active.

  20. Jack says:

    KEEP L@@KING UP……. Tonight | EarthSky
    Our featured sky chart at the top of this post shows the moon, the planet Saturn and star Antares as they appear from North America before dawn on February 22 , …
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    Stay CUED……….JEM….. ;-)

  21. John (Norton Shores) says:

    It always seems like night time brings the grumpiest people onto the blog, is there a full moon?

    1. Jack says:

      Negatory JOHN not 2- NITE !!
      Full Moon Dates 2014

      Day of Week

  22. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

    Tom Skilling just posted on Facebook that their high res RPM is showing a decent narrow band of snow for tomorrow afternoon/evening for Chicago. The forecast maps look to give places south of I-96 the chance of accumulating later tomorrow. I see no local forecast is calling for snow tomorrow.

    1. John (Norton Shores) says:

      The winter weather prediction center has a chance of 4″ or less of snow for everyone south of 96, highest accumulations would be south of 94

  23. Jack says:

    Here is another FRYday Tune, That Came To my OLE Brain TODAY ! Kinda…Depressing ,BUT I just Thought I’d SHARE. CUE:: Jackson Browne – The Late Show (Late For the Sky – 1974) – YouTube
    Artist: Jackson Browne
    Album: Late for the Sky
    Released: 1974

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