Wednesday Evening

March 12th, 2014 at 3:03 am by under Bill's Blog, Weather

Local 9:15 PM – The last flurries are exiting Branch County.  Skies have cleared over most of the area and we’re in for record cold temperatures tonight.  With light to calm winds at daybreak…city temperatures will be zero to -5 and outlying areas could be as cold as -15.  We expect record cold temperatures for March 13th.  The record lows for the day are +5 for Gr. Rapids, +2 for Muskegon and -3 for Lansing.   If we get to -5 in G.R., it’ll be the coldest so late in the season.  We’ll have a shot at record cold temperatures early next week.  The GFS computer model gives G.R. a low temperature of -5 tonight.  The European model gives G.R. -4° tomorrow morning, back to the mid 40s Friday, then unseasonably cold early next week with lows in the single figures Sun. and Mon. am.

The overall pattern looks chilly through most of the rest of March.     Lots of school closings this morning southeast of Kent Co.  Most of Kalamazoo, Calhoun and Jackson county schools are closed.  Severe thunderstorms caused one fatality at Chapel Hill NC when a tree fell on a car.  There were a dozen and a half reports of wind damage.  Lots of flight delays, too.  As of 11:20 am – Consumers Energy reports 630 customers without power as of 7:45 (down from a high of nearly 12,000 – so good work Consumers!  That’s awesome), inc. 409 in Calhoun County,  181 in Clinton Co.  We had 9″ of new snow at Oshtemo, Augusta and Battle Creek, 6.3″ in Lansing, just 1.9″ in Grand Rapids and only a trace in Muskegon.  5-7″ of snow in the southern suburbs of Chicago.

From Accu-Weather:  “Areas from the Dakotas and Minnesota to Wisconsin, Michigan, the Appalachians and Atlantic coast should experience surge of severe weather during June and July.”   The Euro. hinting at another snow event for us around the 18th (3-6+”).  From Joe Bastardi:  “the GFS super ensemble is seeing the March 1956 analog again as number 1.” (1956 was the year of the Hudsonville-Standale Tornado).  He also says:  “In the longer term, day 11 the GFS super ensemble has 1982 showing up, though not number 1″ (that year we had a 10″ snowstorm and low temps. in the single figures two mornings in a row in G.R.).

Also:  Explosion in NYC destroys two buildings, inc. a church.  At least 11 injured.

I’ll leave radar at the top of the blog until the last of the snow exits this afternoon.  Watch for icy spots throughout the day.  Temperatures will go down a few degrees during the day, so slick spots may linger into the evening, esp. on roads that get sparse traffic.  If we’re lucky, we’ll see some breaks in the clouds by late in the day.  Here’s lots of links to check out.  The Advisory (see thread below this one) runs to 3 pm.  Here’s regional pic. of Winter Storm Warnings/Advisories.

Here’s heavy snow at Wrigley Field in Chicagosunset in a duststorm in Lubbock, Texas…gust to 60 mph at Amarillo…another great sunset pic. of the approaching duststormiridescence in a cemeteryBlizzard Warnings in Western New Yorksnow in India…80 degrees in downtown Kansas City – six hours later they were getting accumulating snow…looking up at the Earth.

Links: Grand Rapids radar, Northern Indiana radar, Chicago radar, Detroit radar and Milwaukee radar. Here’s the College of DuPage Radar Map (pick any radar in the U.S.), College of DuPage Grand Rapids radar, GFS snowfall for the next 120 hours and NAM model snowfall for the next 84 hours. the West Michigan Lightning Tracker, National Lightning Tracker, the local warning/advisory map and the National warning/watch/advisory map, and a surface weather map. You can checkout the latest Grand Rapids NWS discussion, the Northern Indiana NWS discussion (includes the Michigan Counties that border Indiana), the discussion for Northern Lower Michigan, and Eastern Lower Michigan. Check out Storm Total Precipitation (until they reset it). Here’s the Spyglass Condos Weather Station the S. Haven GLERL station, the Muskegon GLERL station, the Grand Haven Steelheaders webcam and weather station, and the weather station at Holland State Park. Check out the Maranatha Webcam at Lake Michigan and links to webcams. Here’s the infrared satellite loop (night) and the visible satellite loop (daytime), Lake Michigan water temperatures (summer). Here’s storm reports from SW Michigan, Northern Michigan, NE Illinois, SE. Wisconsin, Upper Michigan and E. Michigan. Check out the wind and wave height at the South Mid-Lake Michigan Buoy (Apr. to Nov. only), the North Mid-Lake Michigan Buoy (Apr. to Nov. only), the buoy at Big Sable Point near Ludington, the weather station at Manistee Harbor and the weather station on the beach at St. Joseph. Here’s Michigan wind gusts from MesoWest, data from the MAWN agricultural weather stations and Weather Underground (data at the bottom from private weather stations). Check out the webcam at Krupp’s Resort, where they are pushing toward 3 feet of snow on the ground. Check out the cold temps. on the U.S. Low Temperature map. Here’s the morning run of the NAM forecast snow amounts. Here’s a live look at the Houghton Bridge. Here’s the Consumers Energy Power Outage Map. We continue to watch for ice jams on Michigan rivers. Here’s Closings.

403 Responses to “Wednesday Evening”

  1. John (Norton Shores) says:

    Bill what are record lows for Muskegon tonight? NWS says that record lows will only be met inland of 131 but they have -2 for me, so I’m just curious as to why they think records will only be met inland of 131?

    Thank you!

    1. Bill Steffen says:

      I think Muskegon can set a record low in the AM (assuming the wind goes calm). The record in Muskegon is +2 in 1912.

  2. Wswplz says:

    Here is some interesting graphs : Need to wait a few seconds to load.
    http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/MJO/enso.shtml

    1. Wswplz says:

      * try this one sorry… It starts with an undefined green map btw, but will load after a few secs…

  3. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    I think I take the sled out and ENJOY the fresh SNOW and the BEST WINTER EVER! INCREDIBLE!

    1. hockeyfan says:

      #1 trillion

    2. Alli says:

      Most of the new snow has melted in the sun today I’m sorry to tell you.

      I would also avoid any south facing slope as all of the snow there has melted.

      Be safe.

    3. Paul m says:

      How much snow did you get?
      Zero my hero in grandhaven

  4. Jack says:

    Just a Tune about What I Love, and Long For …… CUE: Eddie Rabbitt – I Love A Rainy Night – YouTube
    ► 3:13► 3:13
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebt0BR5wHYs. Stay CUED….. Coming SOON ??

    1. jerry hoag says:

      AMEN BROTHER JACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Love that song……….

      1. Wswplz says:

        Here we go,….I see what’s to come ” Jerry ” JERRYYY

        1. jerry hoag says:

          See whats to come?????? What???

  5. jerry hoag says:

    MAN, I CANT WAIT TO SEE IF THAT SURGE OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY THEY ARE SPEAKING OF HOLDS TRUE!!!!!!!!! GRAND RAPIDS IS WAY OVER DUE FOR SO MUCH ACTIVE WEATHER, NOT DAMAGING WEATHER BUT VERY INTERESTING WEATHER THOUGH!!!!!! Hopefully not a an EF5 TWISTER like back then……but something to remember!!!!!!!!!!!

    1. Larry of Hastings, barry co says:

      Hold on…more than likely we will get some severe weather this spring. After the ice storm we had this last Dec., I am in no mood to deal with power outage, etc. We are long over due for tornado outbreak. This could be the year. Palm Sunday in 1965, I was only 5years old, the deadly tornado outbreak, the day I started getting interested in weather. I use to live in the deep south, been in a few tornadoes and tropical storms. I love watching the storms develop and see if we get hit or the storm is a dud. My gut feeling, it could be bad spring for severe storms.

      1. jerry hoag says:

        Larry, You are so right on man!!!!!!!!!! I so feel this will be the year!!!!!! I think the first severe thunderstorm warnings for west Michigan will be April 3rd!!!

  6. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

    Do you guys remember when I posted the pics of the huge drift with my snowmobile a couple weeks ago? Well I drove past there again today on the snowmobile trail, and look what the drift looks like now! It almost looks like an ice cave that you find on the Great Lakes.

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152237893576418&set=pcb.10152237894131418&type=1&theater

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152237893921418&set=pcb.10152237894131418&type=1&theater

    1. Brian(Grandville) says:

      Is that near Big Lake by chance.

      1. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

        It is SW of Monterey/NW of Allegan, but we do have some awesome drifts here near Big Lake.

        1. Jacob G says:

          I have snowmobiled in that area before, pretty nice ride. Looks like we are building glaciers out there.

  7. Jimbo says:

    Hey Indy!! Jimbo IS Back!!!! Uncle Sparky around??? Please NO MORE SNOW!!!!!!

    1. INDY says:

      JIMBO!! HOWS THE WHITECAPS CLEAN UP COMING?? INDYY!

      1. Jimbo says:

        Slow..But Sure..Home Opener …27 Days..SEE YOU ALL THERE!!!!!

        1. Andy G says:

          INDY & Jimbo, you can follow the Whitecaps rebuild here:

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  8. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

    this is for John (Norton Shores) the record low for Muskegon for Thursday AM is +2° back in 1912 in 2nd place is +5 in 1960 and in 3rd place is +6 in 1926. For GR the temps are +5 in 1926 and +6 in both 1926 and 1896.
    SlimJim

    1. John (Norton Shores) says:

      Thank you SlimJim!

  9. Jack says:

    Hey, Bill ….NEW TIE ? Staying Cued ….. ;-)

    1. Bill Steffen says:

      I think I’ve worn this one a time or two. This one is from Crazy Horse.

      1. Jack says:

        VERY NICE…thanks BILL…

  10. INDY says:

    YAAAA!!!! BILL JUST SAID THIS COOL PATTERN IS NOT GOING AWAY ANYTIME SOON!!! JUST FACTS FROM THE CHIEF!! INDYY!!

    1. Wswplz says:

      Or jerry….lol

      1. INDY says:

        No that’s not Jerry hoag trust me!!! I know Jerry hoag!! INDYY!

        1. Wswplz says:

          K…

        2. jerry hoag says:

          INDY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes we know each other, INDY IS NOT ME AND I AM NOT HIM!!! LOL….. SEVERE WEATHER IS A COMING STRONG THIS YEAR!!!!!!!

  11. INDY says:

    BILL STEEFENS THIS SPRITES 4 U!!! THEE YARDofBRICKS LOVES U!!! INDYY!!

  12. INDY says:

    I HOPE THE LEAFS GROW ON TREES THIS SUMMER !! WITH A WINTER THIS LONG WE MAY NOT HAVE ANY GREEN LEAFS!!INDYY!

  13. INDY says:

    SEVER THUNDERSTORM WARNINGS APRIL 9TH !!! STAY TUNED!!! INDYY!!

    1. Jack says:

      Uncle Yack says…. APRIL FIRST…

      1. Jimbo says:

        April 11th!!!

    2. jerry hoag says:

      INDY APRIL 3RD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  14. Jack says:

    BILL STEFFEN….. SIMPLY THE BEST!!!!!!! :-)

    1. jerry hoag says:

      AMEN BROTHER JACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  15. INDY says:

    BILL REMEMBER U HAVE YOUR BLOG BE HIND U TONIGHT SORRY NO KYLE UNDERWWOD WITH U AT THE TRACKING CENTER!!! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK ON TELLING US THE COLD WILL NOT GO!!!! WE LOVE SNOW!!! INDYY!!!!

    1. Jimbo says:

      WHAT!!!!!??? No Kyle Underpants???????

    2. Cali1005 says:

      Speak for yourself.

  16. steven (Derby Lake) says:

    The weather is the only thing I watch ch.8 for. They get way over dramatic for their news. I just turn the channel

    1. Cali1005 says:

      They also get over dramatic on the weather.

      1. Ned S. (East of Holland) says:

        Then watch another channel.

        1. GB says:

          Easy Ned easy

  17. Jack says:

    BILL, LOVES GOING SOLO……. However BILL YOUR BLOG has YOUR BACK !!! B.S. = # 1 Met. On Theeeeeeeee PLANET!!

    1. jerry hoag says:

      BILL’S BLOG IS THE BOMB!!!!!!!!!! THE BEST BLOG AROUND!!!!

  18. John (Norton Shores) says:

    Both the NAM and GFS have wind chills down to -20 tonight even at the lakeshore brrrr! they have wind chills of -25 to -30 below around GR in the morning, going to be a cold morning for sure!

    1. Jack says:

      Brrrrrrr, Brrrrrr, Cold…. Sucks ! ;-)

      1. Cali1005 says:

        Better get used to it cuz it looks like it’s going to linger until at least the first week of April.

        1. INDY says:

          WOW REALLY!! THANKS FOR THEE POST!! INDYY!!

    2. Nathan (Forest Hills) says:

      There won’t be any wind though so wind chills should be above -10 tonight. The big story is the record low temperatures with below zero digits inland and especially in low lying areas.

      1. John (Norton Shores) says:

        Winds should remain around 5-10MPH tonight, I’m going to say that the GFS and NAM are likely overdoing the wind chills but I also wouldn’t say no wind chills, that slight breeze will keep those wind chills in the -10 to -20 range, I hope your right though, I would gladly take the warmer wind chills!

        1. Nathan (Forest Hills) says:

          Im thinking -5 to -8 wind chills (-10 is a little high though) for tonight considering that winds will become calm overnight. Bill mentioned in the post above that “With light to calm winds at daybreak…city temperatures will be zero to -5 and outlying areas could be as cold as -15.” The NWS is also calling for winds below 5 MPH. Also the low pressure and storm system will be departing east, dragging those surprised isobars with it… so I wouldn’t expect too much wind. With clear skies, new snow cover, and light winds, temperatures will likely fall into record breaking territory, so that is definitely exciting!

    3. Paul m says:

      School closing Thrusday!

  19. Jack Straw says:

    Somebody get this man a burger !

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKbDJ8E8zyM

  20. jerry hoag says:

    Hey INDY and JACK what’s this talk about, JERRYYYY??????? HUH??????

  21. Andy G says:

    INDY & Jiimbo you can follow the Whitecaps rebuild here:

    http://new.livestream.com/accounts/6907303/wmwhitecapslivestream

  22. INDY says:

    Thanks Andy Jimbo is working the rebuild!! INDY!!

    1. Andy G says:

      No problem INDY!! That’s cool, can’t wait to get back to Fifth Third and have some ice cold Sprites!

  23. INDY says:

    JERRY HOAG IS READY!! BRING ON THEE STORM!!! INDYY!

    1. jerry hoag says:

      INDY YOU KNOW IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! JERRY HOAG IS SO READY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BRING ON ALL THEE STORMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  24. jerry hoag says:

    INDY and JACK, I’m not on FACEBOOK right now, I gave it up for Lent…..I didn’t post that. So just in case you were wondering where I was…..lol… MY BAD!!!!!!!!!!! SEVERE WEATHER IS A COMING SOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!! APRIL 3RD!!!!

    1. INDY says:

      Don’t forget about May 25th!! INDYY

      1. jerry hoag says:

        INDY, JERRY IS READY FOR MAY 25TH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      2. jerry hoag says:

        INDY, I accepted the request and said yes to attending….Did that not come through??

  25. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    What an absolutely PERFECT WINTER night! They picked up about 2.5 inches of fresh snow in the Cannosburg area! There is still an amazing amount of SNOW on the trails and in the woods. We have a solid 10 inch base on the trails and still well over 16 inches in the woods! What a great night to be in the woods! I don’t know how it could be any better for mid March! FRESH SNOW, GREAT TRAILS, TEMPS IN THE 20′S, SUN AND THEN A SUNSET! INCREDILBLY AWESOME!

    1. jerry hoag says:

      Ummmmmmm, Thank you…????!!!!!!

      1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

        You’re welcome!

  26. John (Norton Shores) says:

    18Z GFS has about an inch of rain on the 21st, right now it has been the battle between rain and mixed precip.

    1. jerry hoag says:

      Bring on the rain and the storms!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    2. Rocky (Rockford) says:

      This will end up as mainly SNOW! Bring it!

  27. Kevin (Marshall) says:

    Total snow just south of Marshall: 5.5 inches.

  28. jerry hoag says:

    From Accu-Weather: “Areas from the Dakotas and Minnesota to Wisconsin, Michigan, the Appalachians and Atlantic coast should experience surge of severe weather during June and July.” The Euro. hinting at another snow event for us around the 18th (3-6+”). From Joe Bastardi: “the GFS super ensemble is seeing the March 1956 analog again as number 1.” (1956 was the year of the Hudsonville-Standale Tornado)

    IM JUST GOING CRAZY OVER THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BRING ON THEE STORMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    1. Mark (East Lansing) says:

      Oh shucks. I guess I better reschedule the picnic I had planned for July.

  29. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    Keep the COLD and SNOW coming! THE BEST WINTER EVER LIVES ON AND ON!

    1. mk says:

      Rocky in german means dufuss. Just the facts.

  30. Wswplz says:

    I can finally post news everyone should like, whether you like cold, warm or both this should be good news, if not then you might need to consider physiatric evaluation as an option.

    &&

    .HYDROLOGY…
    ISSUED AT 328 PM EDT WED MAR 12 2014

    THE PERIODS OF WARMER TEMPERATURE WITH LIMITED RAIN MIXED WITH COLD
    SNAPS OF LATE HAS RESULTED IN A DECREASE IN ICE DEPTH ON RIVERS AND
    HAS DECREASED THE MOISTURE TRAPPED IN THE SNOW PACK. CURRENT SNOW
    WATER EQUIVALENT VALUES ARE GENERALLY IN THE 2 TO 4 INCH RANGE. THIS
    PATTERN IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE THROUGH THE NEXT WEEK… WHICH
    SHOULD LOWER THE CHANCES FOR ICE JAM FORMATION AND FLOODING AS WE
    PROGRESS INTO SPRING.

    :)

    1. Jack says:

      Very Nice…Thanks wswplz… especially ….GOOD NEWS…for INDYS YOBRICKS….. ;-) . Stay Cued ….. 4 May 25th…. For a SPRITE RISING GOOD TIME…….. !!! Yeaaaaaaaa…..INDY …… ;-)

    2. Bill Steffen says:

      You’re right, that is good news, but we’ll have a significant flood threat from heavy rain and ice break-up for quite a while. The ground will be saturated from the melting snow well into April. You don’t want it totally dry – that would increase the chance of grass fires…though the vegetation is really matted down under the snow this year.

      1. Nathan (Forest Hills) says:

        Two of my bushes in my front yard were completely crushed by the snow cover/piles. One of them is looking back to normal but the other is still pretty smashed down unfortunately. Im thinking there will be a lot of bush and plant damage once the snow melts in… a month (hopefully sooner!).

      2. Wswplz says:

        Yes, definitely still a high risk of flooding compared to normal. Do you think at least this cuts way down on the ice-jam side of things, or must we still be concerned with this too?

      3. SS (Pwell Area) says:

        Bill,
        How about the tulips for tulip time… could be another delay?

    3. Rocky (Rockford) says:

      Very good news, but what about all the hype from various people on here about the devastating flooding that is bound to happen because of all this SNOW? We have had many years with 90 to 100 inches of SNOW with no flooding! Imagine that! Just enjoy all of the SNOW and stop hyping the flooding!

      1. SW Kent says:

        That is very true.

      2. Cort S. says:

        Hydrology is more complicated than just seasonal snowfall.

        What about the amount of water locked in the snow pack across the entire river basin? What if that’s comparatively higher than other high-snowfall years? This year hasn’t just seen snowfall, it’s had persistent cold keep the snow pack from melting gradually. Frost depth in the ground spells runoff concerns early on, and the risk of ice jams is also high. The later we go into the season with very cold air, we run the risk of a drastic warm-up with a widespread precipitation event.

  31. Most of my bushes bark are striped off by stupid rabbits! I think they will be toast, their is no bark left where the rabbits could reach, they even striped down all the fallen branches from the December ice storm. With all the damage they caused, you know it was a bad winter!

  32. on the Grand says:

    The front hedge did not fair well. A lot of broken branches. The yucca plants have been chewed by something under the snow. There is nothing left of them. I had forgotten that I planted a hedge in the backyard. Nice to see them again. Found the house keys and glass lens lost in the snow during the winter. But what a mess everywhere.

    1. Brian(Grandville) says:

      They make a delicious stew.

  33. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    Get ready! Look for another SNOWSTORM the last week of March! ROCK n ROLL will never die baby! Bring it!

  34. on the Grand says:

    I am not sure about the ice jams yet, but the river near me is melting nicely. The water edge is open water and melting inwards. The ice is still solid and holding together. Even though it was cold today with the sun the ice melted. Looks like a skating rink. So I would think by Sunday there will be some water movement on the river. We will just have to see what happens next.

  35. John (Grand Rapids) says:

    Are we going to get a WCA? It looks like the wind chills warrant one…

  36. John (Grand Rapids) says:

    Both the GFS and NAM are showing wind chills of -20 and lower… that could even be a wind chill warning.

    1. Nathan (Forest Hills) says:

      The wind chills will be 5-10 below, possibly 15 below in localized areas NW of Kent… So no advisory should be needed. I’m sure they will monitor this though.

    2. Cort S. says:

      With winds of 0-7 mph tonight, it seems like most people’s wind chills will be warmer than -15.

  37. mr. negative says:

    Need another 6-8 inches of snow this month just to reach our average…so yeah, you can “expect” more snow through the 31st. April?…same story, simply less. April “should”, based on the past, include another 2 inches worth of SNOWFALL paranoia.

  38. steven (Derby Lake) says:

    Is it odd that there is fire danger along the coast of Virginia and a few counties in North Carolina? Seems like the ground should be well saturated in that area.

    1. Cort S. says:

      Their dew points will be around 0 with air temps in the 40s, which will make the relative humidity reach 10-15% during the day tomorrow. Winds will be 15-25 mph with gusts to 35.

      1. Brian(Grandville) says:

        There are some locations in the U.P. reporting dew points from -25 to -35 right now. I know the dew point is an indication of a low temp. Does that sound about right Cort.

        1. Cort S. says:

          Not usually. Depends on the amount of radiational cooling (clear skies, fresh snow cover, etc.), and whether or not there will be winds to stir up the air to prevent the coldest air from hugging the ground or draining into low spots. The dew point will be somewhat of a factor to help slow down the rate of cooling, because if you condense dew or frost out of the air, you are releasing some heat into the air via that process.

  39. tyler says:

    You guys still have snow cover in the lower peninsula. If so how much left?

    1. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

      After today’s snow I have 15-22″.

  40. Tyler says:

    Is the Frost depth deep down there yet or is the frost out of the ground now?

    1. Larry of Hastings, barry co says:

      Frost is still in the ground.

  41. Larry of Hastings, barry co says:

    Let’s start talking about next weeks big storm on Tuesday and Wednesday. More than likely it will be a heavy wet snow.

    1. TomKap (Michigan St. & Fuller) Grand Rapids says:

      Let’s not.

  42. Wswplz says:

    This run of the 00ZGFS is quite puzzling to me. I will try and explain why the best I can with my limited knowledge. It looks like you have a closed wave just over the center our Great Lakes, but then you have a secondary stream coming in a bit behind and below the other, almost in Clipper fashion as it dives down. If you look to the following hours this even becomes more apparent. Don’t these two features seem odd, will someone way in who knows a bit more than I .

    http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/NCOMAGWEB/appcontroller/Image.php?image=data%2Fgfs%2F00%2Fgfs_namer_114_850_temp_mslp_precip.gif&model=gfs&area=namer&storm=&cycle=00&param=850_temp_mslp_precip&fhr=114&group=Model+Guidance&imageSize=M&preselected_formatted_cycle_date=20140313+00+UTC&ps=model&scrollx=0&scrolly=0#

    1. Wswplz says:

      * weigh in…help explain..lol

      1. Wswplz says:

        I guess this of course could happen, but it’s more the secondary system that seems a bit out of place…idk

  43. Wswplz says:

    It’s been getting colder each time I have gone outside, man the temperature is falling fast. I can feel the cold trying to get through my double pained windows, or rather coming through as my heater cycles on more than off. Burr

  44. Bernie at the lakeshore says:

    I am cooking sugar tonight. Last year I finished the first batch on Feb. 14 so that means spring is a month late already. :)
    It is a lot of work tapping trees when the snow is past your knees. Some places I had to dig out the place I usually hang the bucket.

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