Sunday PM/Night – Chance of Flurries

March 21st, 2014 at 4:12 pm by under Bill's Blog, Weather

Local    2:30 pm Sunday – nice little snow shower at my house….visibility down to about 2 miles.  The 2 pm temperature in G.R. was 24°.  The average high temperature for today is 48°.  The low temperature this AM in G.R. was 14°…it got down to 9° in Kent City, 7° in Belding, Entrican (Montcalm Co.) and Big Rapids, 2° in Reed City, -6° at Leota in Clare Co., -17° at Stambaugh in the U.P. and -26° at International Falls MN.   Officially, Grand Rapids is down to 1″ of snow on the ground.  We had an inch of snow on the ground now continuously since Dec. 8.  Other snow depths:  2″ Lansing and Big Rapids, 5″ Muskegon, 6″ Hart, 11″ Scottville (Mason Co.), 13″ Houghton Lake and Traverse City, 17″ Gaylord, 18″ Kalkaska, 29″ S. Ste. Marie, 32″ Newberry, 36″ Marquette Airport and Munising and 48″ at Mohawk.

Also: 1.5″ of lake-effect snow on the north side of Chicago this am.   PDO has gone slightly positive the last couple months…lending credibility to the forecast of an El Nino coming on.  NOTE:  An El Nino doesn’t necessarily mean warm weather for West Michigan.  Remember that.  The PDO was positive in 1992 and that was a cool year here in the Great Lakes.  We had a weak El Nino for much of he cold winter period of the late 1970s.  El Ninos that are weak or El Ninos that are moderate and centered farther west can bring colder than average weather to the Great Lakes.   Here’s an approaching thunderstorm in Poland, sure to bring a Krakow thunder.   Before and after picture of the landslide in Washington State – still people missing.  Here’s another picture of the slide.    Tropical Storm Gillian in the W. Pacific – no threat to land at this time.   Deep East Coast Storm will continue to bring cold air down into the NE U.S. from Canada.

Just starting to look over the models…I’m working today (6, 10 and 11 pm newscasts).  Looks cold tonight, partly sunny tomorrow…an inch or two of snow late Monday night into Tues. evening…mix to all rain Thurs.   More later.

Links: Grand Rapids radar, Northern Indiana radar, Chicago radar, Detroit radar and Milwaukee radar. Here’s the College of DuPage Radar Map (pick any radar in the U.S.), College of DuPage Grand Rapids radar, GFS snowfall for the next 120 hours and NAM model snowfall for the next 84 hours. the West Michigan Lightning Tracker, National Lightning Tracker, the local warning/advisory map and the National warning/watch/advisory map, and a surface weather map. You can checkout the latest Grand Rapids NWS discussion, the Northern Indiana NWS discussion (includes the Michigan Counties that border Indiana), the discussion for Northern Lower Michigan, and Eastern Lower Michigan. Check out Storm Total Precipitation (until they reset it). Here’s the Spyglass Condos Weather Station the S. Haven GLERL station, the Muskegon GLERL station, the Grand Haven Steelheaders webcam and weather station, and the weather station at Holland State Park. Check out the Maranatha Webcam at Lake Michigan and links to webcams. Here’s the infrared satellite loop (night) and the visible satellite loop (daytime), Lake Michigan water temperatures (summer). Here’s storm reports from SW Michigan, Northern Michigan, NE Illinois, SE. Wisconsin, Upper Michigan and E. Michigan. Check out the wind and wave height at the South Mid-Lake Michigan Buoy (Apr. to Nov. only), the North Mid-Lake Michigan Buoy (Apr. to Nov. only), the buoy at Big Sable Point near Ludington, the weather station at Manistee Harbor and the weather station on the beach at St. Joseph. Here’s Michigan wind gusts from MesoWest, data from the MAWN agricultural weather stations and Weather Underground (data at the bottom from private weather stations). Check out the webcam at Krupp’s Resort, where they are pushing toward 3 feet of snow on the ground. Check out the cold temps. on the U.S. Low Temperature map. Here’s the morning run of the NAM forecast snow amounts. Here’s a live look at the Houghton Bridge. Here’s the Consumers Energy Power Outage Map. We continue to watch for ice jams on Michigan rivers. Here’s Closings.

97 Responses to “Sunday PM/Night – Chance of Flurries”

  1. It certainly is nice to see the chance for a rumble or two of thunder. Even if the storms would be weak and elevated. Slowly but surely, we are Marching toward spring. Pun intended. Nice to see the GFSLR has much warmer temperatures in it consistently now vs cold ones.

  2. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

    This is in the field beside my house looking to the fields north of my house. Still plenty of snow to snowmobile as you can see here. There is still 16″ where I’m standing to take the picture.

    1. Jack says:

      Nice, Keep putting on Miles on Your Sled possibly into April…. ;-)

      1. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

        Looking like sometime next week will be my last ride until next winter. Almost had 4 full months of riding this winter. Normally we will have just under 2 months of good riding.

    2. Tim from Zeeland says:

      Thats cool. For the ones that love winter this has been a great years to be out and play in the snow and enjoy Michigan. Glad you can still get a few rides in. Just hope you don’t get too many more rides in. I love winter, but I’m ready for spring.

      1. Travis Ulberg (West of Martin, Allegan County) says:

        It was definitely a winter to remember. The crazy part is just 2 miles from my house there are a lot of bare front yards. It happens every year though.

        1. Tim from Zeeland says:

          I have a place at Sandy Pines. I stopped to check the place out yesterday. There is still a ton of snow in the woods. So if you can find some wooded trails you could be running your sled a few more weeks. :-)

  3. Cort S. says:

    If any of you weather geeks are looking for some heavy reading, here is the NWS service assessment on the 31 May 2013 tornadoes and flash floods in Oklahoma:

    TL;DR: See Appendix B (page 53)

    1. Mark (East Lansing) says:

      Thorough is an understatement.

    2. Wswplz says:

      Holly WFO, this one I’m going to have to read through later. Lol. Thanks Cort.

  4. Larry of Hastings, barry co says:

    Thunder is the sound of SPRING.

  5. “the averages go up at the fastest rate between now and the end of April and the additional sunshine will eventually show Old Man Winter the door.”

    Bill, that is is the best news I have heard this whole 2014 season so far! Keep the facts coming to us. I can’t wait until our first 60 degree day. Currently I am at 42 degrees with nothing but sunshine!

    1. Wswplz says:

      SlimJim NW GR (1) says:
      March 21, 2014 at 2:22 pm
      This is very much not weather related but I thought I would put this up because of the word “bailout” I don’t care how you feel about what is happing in the Ukraine and Russia’s roll in the situation But do you think that we (the US) should bailout any country? If we are going to spend billions of dollars why not bailout our own cities and teetering companies!

      Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu told Putin on Friday that 72 Ukrainian military units in Crimea have decided to join the Russian military. His claim couldn’t be independently confirmed.
      At the Ukrainian military air base in Belbek, outside the Crimean port of Sevastopol, Col. Yuly Mamchur told reporters Friday he was still waiting for orders from his commanders on whether to vacate.
      Amid its political crisis, Ukraine is teetering on the verge of bankruptcy, struggling to pay off billions of dollars in debts in the coming months. The U.S. and the European Union have pledged to quickly offer a bailout

      This is a link to the whole story


      Response to post below:: Interesting read to btw , something to think about…

      1. Bill Steffen says:

        We have a 17 trillion dollar debt…we throw money everywhere. There’s money in our budget for museums in places like Ireland and Norway. There’s an endless list of places where the U.S. wastes money. Remember this:

  6. Wswplz says:

    This was in response to an earlier post from Slim. :) . Thanks btw Slim

    Many ways of course to look at this situation and there are clearly different challenges that arise with one “solution ” vs another. For instance consider why is it that we only began to pay close attention after people begun to protest which then led to the horrible deaths of many innocent people. This by the way is after the fact that we would not participate in aiding Ukraine before this became where it is today. This really is between Europe , Ukraine and later Russia or always Russia depending on who you believe. As you know this started with the EU and the signing of the association agreement or ( AA ) with the Ukraine, which Yankovich ( former president ) had already said he would sign, and agreed to the stipulations within the AA. This however did not go smoothly to say the least and an agreement was never signed, as I won’t get into the specifics within the (AA) that probably added to this delay or those with that of Ukraine. During this time Ukraine signed a deal with Russia worth around 15 billion dollars and also cheaper costs on fossil fuels from Russia to Ukraine. This relationship was not supposed to affect any further talks and agreements between that of Ukraine and the EU.( Putin saw an opportunity) These relations with Russia and Ukraine were thought to be conflicting especially with that of trade, being that there alignment would not be clear. So the EU suspended talks an this began to fuel the riots we saw as many were furious because this AA was agreed upon by the people and their government . Could this possibly been handed better if we were concerned about Ukraine earlier. The EU could they have been more flexible with some of there stipulations, as it pertained to the ( AA) or was it warranted because of the actions of the Ukrainian government and there reluctancy to sign / comply to the agreement . I think coming to the table late In the game once we see that this might have an impact on our interests is often going to be costly and less effective, instead of being proactive with foreign affairs. I agree we should spend more money here and less abroad , but 1 billion dollars is a drop in the bucket compared to other foreign aid, not saying it’s right, but it is more complicated than that of just money or aid. Do we pay now or suffer the results of doing nothin, or perhaps pay later in a harsher fashion.( war, etc ). I would say most believe it’s not right to break treaties or international law and then overtaking a sovereign country, regardless of its ethnic make up and doing so in the name of liberation, via staging that of a vote for annexation. But how evolved should we get in these types of situations when we have so many problems here? IDK

    1. Wswplz says:

      *’Not to mention the 25 billion we wasted from congress and there shutdown. Okay no politics I know the weather is a hot enough topic…lol

    2. Mark (East Lansing) says:

      The only reason we began to pay attention to it is because the media covered it. There are far worse atrocities going on around the world where many many more innocent people have died, but we never hear of them. It is unfortunate that our media has way too much influence as to what we “care” about.

      1. Wswplz says:

        This is not a small event, but media does do it’s thing.

      2. Julie says:


        We use alternative news media to get additional information. Currently “news” is motivated by ratings and commercials…but I guess better than motivated by government (or rather controlled).

    3. Mark (East Lansing) says:

      Besides, Russia invaded another former Soviet republic while Bush was in office and we didn’t do anything about that.

      1. Wswplz says:

        That makes it okay? Common, you can’t just excuse this as media….

        1. Mark (East Lansing) says:

          No, the media was all over that. It’s just that Congress wasn’t pressing our President to take action like they are now.

          Oh and regarding to the second to the last sentence in your dissertation, take out the part about annexation and that’s what the US did in Iraq War II.

        2. Wswplz says:

          Ya but we did that for oil….Okay I’m back to weather….Dissertation that’s funny Mark..hahaha

        3. Wswplz says:

          I mean WMD’s …lol

        4. Mark (East Lansing) says:

          Yeah it’s too bad that neither oil nor WMDs came out of the deal. Don’t get me wrong, you make good points. But I’m like a lot of people in thinking our country needs help and our first priority should be at home first.

        5. Wswplz says:

          Complex world for sure, no easy answers …….but we do need help at home, and occasionally we have to think globally so our homes are safe. I agree with you in part as we need to do something different and focusing on our problems at home would be a start.

  7. TomKap (Michigan St. & Fuller) Grand Rapids says:

    Wow, that rain just ‘popped up’ over the lake…right on schedule.

    1. Wswplz says:

      Tomkap are you happier it’s spring finally?

  8. on the Grand says:

    Wow, all that ice at 31 bridge is gone. Nature is amazing.

    1. Wswplz says:

      Hey, btw thanks for the post the other day, I’m going to check out some those spots you mentioned. Glad the river is cooperating so far for you, as I hope it will continue to be a non issue.

    2. Jacob G says:

      I went by there at 3 and then again closer to 4 and by then the ice chunks were flowing into the big lake. I would estimate the ice and sand mounds on the beach are 10-15 feet high.

      1. Wswplz says:

        So did the models sweep the back north, haven’t had a chance to look .?

        1. Wswplz says:

          Can’t wait until we start to see more colors like these… :)

        2. Jacob G says:

          Looks like low is on the same track, right over the center of the CWA. We are getting some evaporated cooling up here in Kent City with some snow mixed in.

  9. Jacob G says:

    Some flurries up here in Kent City mixed in with the rain.

  10. Jeff (Fremont) says:

    Bill, the precip just started up here and its all snow, big heavy flakes it’s really beautiful.

  11. on the Grand says:

    Raining here, time to clean up the place.

  12. I know this has nothing to do with weather…but I sure hope that the US does not go to war overseas in Russia. Everyday things seem to get more and more scary

    1. Jacob G says:

      Oh boy Kyle you pulled my political views out tonight…Our lead from behind president will probably make a miscalculated decision somewhere along the way…Just goes to show we don’t need a cool hip president. Like he told the Russians earlier, “I will be more flexible after the elections”…Russians see that as game, set and match. I feel you will see all kinds of other countries advance their own anti-US agendas for the next 3 years. The world needs the leadership of the US and we failed that over the last 5 years IMHO.

      1. Wswplz says:

        Not the presidents fault, would have done It anyway, a la bush, a la Reagan ….but no war please

        1. Jacob G says:

          To some degree, but why did the current president suspend missile defense in that region in his first year of office? Could be the costs, but what message does that send to the region and our allies?

        2. Wswplz says:

          Im not really sure to be honest, don’t know enough about it, but I see your point however.

        3. Wswplz says:

          Side note can’t believe how many times this year have been run over by these systems . Seem to be just in the wrong spot.

        4. Jacob G says:

          Is just very frustrating that we “draw red lines” but do nothing…we apologize to the Middle East, we suspend our tactics and tools on terrorists and ship them to court rooms in New York so they can lawyer up. I understand the US seems to go from one extreme to the other and we are witnessing some of that now between presidents but there is always consequences to our decisions. Sorry I am done ranting and venting, back to the wonderful world of weather now!

      2. Mark (East Lansing) says:

        I don’t think it matters whom is President, Putin will not listen to anyone. He’s an old school KGB thug.

        1. Wswplz says:

          Agree with ya on that

        2. steven (Derby Lake) says:

          Just like he waited until after the buildup to and until the Olympics were done, to pull off a “military” conflict.

          We should’ve never interfered.

        3. Mark (East Lansing) says:

          Let me rephrase that. He’s an old school, very smart and calculating KGB thug that should never be underestimated.

    2. Ned S. (East of Holland) says:

      I pray to God that we don’t have some sort of international crisis during the next three years. Our President is simply not up to the task. A community organizer does not a statesman make.

  13. mr. negative says:


    1. Jack says:

      Dry,,,Just Like Your Humor…mr. Negative… ;-) . Stay Cued…… ;-)

      1. steven (Derby Lake) says:

        ouch ;)

  14. kevin. w says:

    Where’s dumb ass winter nut Rocky that just loves more snow and cold.

    1. steven (Derby Lake) says:

      Just like the dumb ass spring nuts who think winter has been over for a couple weeks.

      1. Paul m says:

        Beside it been cold where all the snow the two guys been predicting!

    2. Florida1993 says:

      We will get an inch to an inch in a half of snow on Tuesday night. That is our final big snowstorm of the season lol

  15. Jacob G says:

    Come on Kevin, that can happen from time to time and it’s called Mother Nature. No need to call Rocky out on this. There is nothing new under the sun…

    1. kevin. w says:

      I’m really tired of listening to more snow and cold this blog has really gone down hill in the last couple years. It used to be alot of fun and am to the point where I think I’m just going delete it and forget it.

      1. Larry of Hastings, barry co says:

        Don’t leave, some of us enjoy your comments.

        1. kevin. w says:

          Your right Larry, Yes.

      2. suehelen says:

        I hope you don’t. I enjoy reading your comments.

  16. Wswplz says:

    The snow line isn’t much past where I am in northern kent, for those folks up in the far corners of the mitten should see a few inches of white stuff. We are kinda on the dry side of the low for the time being, might see some moisture feed in later.

  17. steven (Derby Lake) says:

    Freezing rain here in Montcalm county

  18. mr. negative says:


    1. Florida1993 says:

      Rain is a good thing mr negative.

    2. Florida1993 says:

      Rain is a good thing mr negative.

    1. Wswplz says:

      Lol…I’m no where near your expertise , but I have been reading up on dual polarized radar, haven’t graduated to the next level yet. Lol

    2. Wswplz says:

      Haven’t seen you around much lately Cort, been busy( dumb question ) or just waiting for some good storms to watch.?

      1. Cort S. says:

        Oh my participation waxes and wanes… This week I’ve been spending some time outside and applying to more jobs.

  19. Sleet, Rain and Big Snow Flakes falling

  20. Moderate to heavy sleet and snow

  21. dereks says:

    It’s a blizzard here in Vestaburg north to Mt. Pleasant!

  22. Mainly just snow now, rumble of thunder

  23. INDY says:

    Hey Kevin calm dawn this winter 2014 will go down in history being one of the coldest longest and snowiest ever!!! Just weather facts !!! Ask your self really who the dumbass is when it comes to weather blog!!! DRINK UP !! INDYY!!

  24. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    kevin w – get a life! More COLD and SNOW is on the way! Get used to it!

    1. Paul m says:

      Just cold rocky!

    2. Rodey (Rockford) says:

      You are delusional. Nothing but RAIN in our future. Who knew? Not you. I love it. Bring it. Fantastic. I love it how is this possible? Thanks for listening

  25. INDY says:

    Bill remembers and do a lot of folks Mitt Rommeny once told the our nation we need to watch out for Russia in the up coming years and Obamaa said listen do hear his crazy talk !!! INDYY!!!

  26. The precip has stayed all rain in south of 96. I melted more snow since this rain was quite heavy at times

  27. almost 1 inch of snow in the last 40 minutes, roads are snow covered

    1. Wswplz says:

      Mark how far are you from the far east side of Cedar Springs?

      1. About 54 miles East
        About 14 miles North

  28. INDY says:

    If this rain was snow we would be close to the all time record snow fall in Gran Rapids Michigfan!! INDYY

    1. TomKap (GR-Michigan & Fuller) says:

      But it’s not. The SNOW party is over.

      1. Rodey (Rockford) says:

        + 1 gazillion trillion billion million

    2. suehelen says:

      We ended up with some snow in Montcalm county. About an inch. The ground is white this morning, but I don’t look for it to stick around long.

  29. Ended as some lt rain and drizzle after 1.3 inches, already melted some of it.
    Temperatures went up from around 32.5 to 36.5 now so love spring snow in that it’s hard to keep around, 16.5 inches 2 weeks ago now down to 1.5 before the snow tonight. Were Getting there.

    1. Jacob G says:

      Slow but steady. Although 00Z models are trending colder for next week’s storm. Lot of time to figure that out, but look out that first week of April, we may not need to go to Florida for spring break…stay tuned

  30. Jacob G says:

    Well Travis, was thinking you would hit the all time seasonal snowfall record this week. Came close to you near Saginaw but looks like we have to wait, still could have 1″ Monday-Tuesday and some later at the end of next week. I still think Flint records fall in March, Detroit now…hmm may have to come down to April for that, however next weeks storm could bring a 2-4″ type of WAA pattern if the models keep trending colder on the onset and quicker on the precip arrival.

  31. Larry of Hastings, barry co says:

    Stop raining here.

  32. Florida1993 says:

    What’s amazing is despite the overall cold temps for the month of march, GR has only received 5 inches of now. Go figure.

    1. Bill Steffen says:

      The cold pattern has shoved the storm track south of Michigan (and we’ve missed a couple weak clippers to the north). We’re had very little Gulf of Mexico moisture up here. Lake Michigan has had a good deal of ice cover and it’s as cold as it gets. That has inhibited lake-effect snow. The dry pattern has been good, allowing the snow to gradually melt without significant flooding.

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