LOTS of Ice Remains on the Great Lakes

March 30th, 2014 at 10:46 pm by under Bill's Blog, Weather

modis lake michigan     modis lake huronmodis lake superior modis lake erie modis lake ontariomodis great lakes These are the MODIS satellite pictures from Sunday PM. Click on the images to enlarge. With sunny skies, we got a good view of the Great Lakes.  A couple things stand out…there is still a fair amount of snow on the ground in West Michigan.  Second, we still have a fair amount of snow on the ground in West Michigan.  Sunday morning, the temperature reached 0° at Spincich Lake in the U.P.  It was 8° at Pellston, 13 in Cadillac.   The high of 50 in G.R. was still 2° cooler than the average high of 52°.  Muskegon had a high of 45.  There is still a lot of snow as you go north.  Sunday snow depths:  18″ Cadillac, 29″ S. Ste. Marie, 37″ Marquette Airport, 39″ Munising.  Last check from Delaware in the U.P. – they had 55″ on the ground and 296.5″ for the season.  Mt. Bohemia had the highest season snowfall total that I could find at 309″.    Winter continues:  Heavy snow in VirginiaBlizzard Warnings for S. Dakota and N. Dakota…parts of Quebec and New BrunswickWinter Storm in Spain.

March 1-30 has been 9.5° colder than average in G.R.   Lansing, Battle Creek, Kalamazoo, Holland and Muskegon are all more than 9° colder than average for the month.  Ludington is 11.2° colder than average for the first 30 days of March.  The good news is that precipitation has been below average.  Grand Rapids has had 1.54″ this month, just 65% of average.

Model update:  European has 0.13″ Monday night/Early Tues…the GFS plot has 0.06″.  That’s rain.  The Euro has .09″ of mostly rain Weds. night…temp. falls to low 30s…could be icy spots Thurs. AM…then we get 0.79″ from Thurs. night thru Saturday and that is almost all rain.  The GFS plot has 0.49″, again mostly rain.  The GFS would have a windy, damp Saturday with temps. much of the day in the 30s.  The Euro.’s about the same…on both models the best part of next weekend is Sunday afternoon.

107 Responses to “LOTS of Ice Remains on the Great Lakes”

  1. Jacob G. says:

    Pretty remarkable stats as we roll into April. NW/N/NE winds will sure cool it down when they kick in. You wonder if this will make the warm fronts stronger in our area and keep them further south initially. Warm fronts and triple points are key for tornado developments and I think Bill mentioned before no tornados in temps below 50 or maybe it was 60?

  2. Bernie at the lakeshore says:

    It was the best day for maple syrup yet. Some of the taps were putting out over 100 drops a minute around 3 in the afternoon. And with all the snow on the ground the buds shouldn’t start swelling. So despite the late start there should be plenty of syrup this year. :)

    1. Julie says:

      Where do you recommend getting your supplies. We have thought about doing this though it might be too much work since we really only have silver maples.

      1. Gretchen says:

        Julie, If you can get your taps in time, your silver maples should work just fine, you will just need to boil a bit longer. I don’t know of a local source for taps, I have always ordered online. Good Luck!

      2. kevin. says:

        I have almost $3000 dollars in supplies tubing and other equipment on my 50 acre property. I’ve been taping for over 25 years and its fun but as you get older it can become a chore. Here are two supply sites I use and I recommend highly reading all about it before you start tapping your trees. There is a science behind it but once you understand how the process works it can be ALOT fun. I’m taking the morning off after a busy weekend and today is going to an overflowing bucket day. Here are two sites I use good luck: http://www.tapmytrees.com/starter-kit.html

        http://www.bascommaple.com/

        1. Wswplz says:

          That is so cool you can go in your back yard and yield maple syrup, as I have never heard of this activity before , tapping trees….. We must not have had the proper trees I guess where I grew up, but always had a good sized garden at my home, so I’m sure its similar to a garden in that everything is much better fresh!

        2. Julie says:

          Thank you Kevin!

    2. Larry of Hastings, barry co says:

      I need to buy some honey butter spread.

      1. Larry of Hastings, barry co says:

        And maple butter spread.

    3. GunLakeDeb says:

      Yum!!!! I’m dreaming of pancakes…. :-)

      1. Larry of Hastings, barry co says:

        I make the best pancakes on this side of IHOP. I put couple drops of Sprite in the batter, my pancakes are always nice and fluffy.

    4. Mike in Hamilton says:

      I bought all the equipment last spring, and was looking forward to tapping my trees this spring, but I didn’t think it all the way through though… I need a boat to get to them as the Rabbit River is running very high right now! Not sure what I can do about that.

    5. Mike in Hamilton says:

      I bought a kit last spring, to use at my new place, but I didn’t think it all the way through. All my maples are in about four feet of water, because the Rabbit River is running pretty high right now…

  3. TomKap (Michigan St. & Fuller) Grand Rapids says:

    Happy for Bernie – everyone loves Maple Syrup!

    Glad the NWS has backed off the ‘ice events’ significantly. Last nights discussion was most unpleasant (talking about an ince of ice).
    Tonights is much nicer.

  4. Dan (Byron Center) says:

    NWS talking two ice events. One for Wednesday night and the other for Friday night. Enjoy the 60 degree day today and opening day for the Tigers! Lets hope for no ice and only rain
    Bill did say that things are about a month later. So weather wise it may seem more like the end of February

    1. TomKap (Michigan St. & Fuller) Grand Rapids says:

      Read it again.

    2. GunLakeDeb says:

      I saw that, although it looks like some of us will only get rain – and that’s a blessing!

  5. Travis (Oakland County) says:

    Opening day with mild temps around 60 and the blog is still talking about Lk Superior ice and snow up north haha

    Spring is here! Got lots of sun outside yesterday. UV is already pretty strong.

    1. Stephen(NorthMuskegon) says:

      Why is it such an issue that we are talking about the ice on Lk Superior? My Uncle lives up north and its NOT spring up there he still has nearly 40 inches on the ground.

    2. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

      While it is opening day in the big D here is what it still looks like in the UP

      http://www.exploremunising.com/web-cams/

      And
      http://www.mtu.edu/webcams/

      No sign of spring up there yet!
      SlimJim

    3. Tim (Spring Lake) says:

      Typical east side of the state comment from you. Nothing exists away from the Detroit area.

      1. Travis (Oakland County) says:

        It’s a holiday over here! All are welcome

  6. Julie says:

    Wonder if Tuesday will break up a lot of ice since it will be a bit more windy?

    1. GunLakeDeb says:

      It will start chewing up the ice on Gun Lake – the very southwest corner of the lake is open water because it’s near the dam and there’s a good current that keeps it from freezing as heavily as the rest of the lake. A brisk southwest wind will blow out a bunch of ice and since that’s my end of the lake – I *might* be kayaking by Wednesday!!!! Woohoo!!!! (I’m not implying the whole lake will be open)

  7. INDY says:

    Well I hope the Detroit Money Ball Tigers win today!!! Looks and feels like today will be the only above normal day this week in Detroit! Tigers may wan’t to use Ford Field the rest of the week!! Get outside and love somebody drink them sprites and watch baseball tonight!!!! Who would of thought a player in Detroit “Miggy” would get 40 thousand every at bat for the next 10 years I hope it works out because the city of Detroit still looks like crap!!! INDYY!!

    1. Mark (East Lansing) says:

      Crazy money. His contract works out to like $55 a minute for the next ten years.

      1. Rob( Norton Shores) says:

        For what? To hit a ball with a bat? Could of spent less. Just sayin.

    2. Wswplz says:

      Tigers would actually be the opposite of ” money ball ” although I do know what you meant, but as far that term goes ( baseball world ) they would be one of the furthest from that type of baseball with the Yankees taking the cake. If some aren’t familiar with the term, one could always watch the movie Money Ball with Brad Pitt, or look up my baseball team , the Oakland A’s , there you will find the true meaning of money ball. Can’t wait until the football season starts again and the baseball season is half over , then I will start watching. Lol

  8. bluegill says:

    I think the Cadillac snow report may be old as I drove through there Saturday. Maybe 18cm.

  9. DF (SE Mich) says:

    Another cold morning, down to 25°. I love Michigan where it is 20′s in the morning and maybe 60° by late afternoon. Average highs are up to 53° today in Detroit.

  10. DF (SE Mich) says:

    It is absolutely amazing we’re going into April with Lake Superior and Huron pretty much completely froze still. A first for my lifetime.

  11. Mark (East Lansing) says:

    Had to scrape my car windows AGAIN this morning. C’mon Spring….

  12. INDY says:

    Enjoy today because the rest of the week looks below normal with rain and snow!! Sprite it up!!! Go Tigers!!!! INDYY!!!

    1. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

      As of now the first two weeks of April do not look nice at all.
      SlimJim

    2. Paul m says:

      Indy the snow is done this winter!

  13. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

    DF mentioned above about how we are now going into April with not only a lot of snow on the ground but a lot of ice in the lakes. Looking back even in 1963 witch was a very cold winter it warmed up in early April that year and even in the UP temps reached the low to mid 70’s on April 3rd that year (no such happing this year). It almost looks like one would have to go back to the 1874/1885 to find a winter/spring like this one
    It should be noted that the summer of 1885 was also a cold summer so I would not expect a lot of warm days this summer at this time. BTW there were reports that ships did not reach ports in the UP in 1885 until mid May and there was ice in Lake Superior (according to some reports) until the 4th of July! Also there are reports that in 1875 the first ship did not reach Marquette until May 20th and in 1973 it was May 21st and there was still (according to a date on a picture) of ice in Marquette harbor in June on 1873. So while a winter and spring like this may have happened in the past in sure was not in most of our life times.
    SlimJim

    1. DF (SE Mich) says:

      Thanks Slim.

  14. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

    There was a lot of frost once again last night and I had a low temp here of 26° now with the sun up it now 35° lets hope we can reach that magical temp of 60 or better today! On a side note with more and more bare ground showing up I have to say I have never seen where there was so much matted down grass/weeds and I can not recall ever seeing the grass/weeds look so brown in the spring! One final note
    GO TIGERS!!!
    SlimJim

  15. Larry of Hastings, barry co says:

    GO TIGERS….WORLD SERIES..2014 CHAMPS.

    1. DF (SE Mich) says:

      We saw it here first :)

  16. DF (SE Mich) says:

    From Mlive this morning on Tigers gameday temperature.

    “The first thing you should know is there could be a cool lake breeze develop during the game. So, although you may be hearing about temperature forecasts in the 60s inland, game time temperatures will probably range between 50 and 55. That is still very nice compared to any day we’ve had this spring. If the lake breeze comes in during the game, temperatures could drop into the upper 40s in spots at Comerica Park.”

    Looks like my random 51° guess isn’t looking bad after all.

    1. Mark (East Lansing) says:

      It will be on the cool side but all things considered, it could be much worse. :)

      GO TIGERS!

      1. DF (SE Mich) says:

        Absolutely. Thursday’s game looks terrible!

    2. Travis (Oakland County) says:

      51 and rain? No way!

      Almost 60 and lots of sun! My forecast looks to have been spot on.

      1. DF (SE Mich) says:

        Off by 12 hours with the rain and within a few degrees, amazing I have to admit.

      2. DF (SE Mich) says:

        Whatevertrends is off by weeks and you say it was accurate all the time, come on now ;)

        1. Travis (Oakland County) says:

          lol Looks like you got beat by those you bash

        2. DF (SE Mich) says:

          Did you even make a prediction? I can’t remember. I remember you posting wxyz.

  17. 46 Degrees here at 10:10

  18. Wswplz says:

    I really hope we don’t see a freezing rain event / ice as they can often don’t have a good outcome. It does however look like they scaled back a bit on that possibility , however it only takes a small shift in the storm track / temps and we find ourselves on the wrong side of things in a hurry. Side note , the SVR weather outlook is really starting to look fairly intense especially on day 4 ( also SVR storms day 3 ) for much of the central / southern plains and will track north east towards the Ohio valley , but how strong it remains at that point really depends on the day time temperatures in that region. ( for SVR weather ). We will most likely see some sort of mixed precipitation and of course freezing rain is one of those possibilities. I will post the freezing rain outlook for the Wednesday- Thursday time frame as it only goes out that far in advance.

    http://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/pwpf/wwd_accum_probs.php?fpd=24&ptype=icez&amt=1&day=3&ftype=probabilities

    I guess we can be thankful we are not living in the Dakotas , as they look to get hammers by this system tracking through. April Blizzard: expecting over 8″ of snow 12″ in some areas 50-60 mile an hour winds!!

    http://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/wwd/day1_psnow_gt_08.gif

    1. GunLakeDeb says:

      I thought the GRR NWS Discussion said the freezing rain was a threat for areas north of I-96? But that’s sure not what your map says….. hmmmm…. I’m hoping those change in the next 2 days. There are SO many trees damaged, with branches hanging by a thread from the previous Ice Storm, that it won’t take much to bring them all down.

      1. Wswplz says:

        This is put out by the WPC as you are correct with this map showing a higher % to the south of the 96 and a little less to the north but as you know it will change over the days to come, especially when trying to predict this p-type. Again on Friday we have a small chance of seeing some as well, ughhh, no thanks says me. Lol

  19. Wswplz says:

    I know this has been mentioned already, but I just couldn’t resist saying it again as I’m in heaven , ” the sun feels so good ” . I think we should melt a great deal of the remaining snow today with the temperatures approaching 60- 62 degrees , with the piles and such still hanging around. I have my shorts on at the moment , while I have the chance to do so , then it will be back to layers again unfortunately, although the cool weather does make the suit and tie a bit more comfortable. :)

  20. GunLakeDeb says:

    Just glancing out the window here at work, I’d say half our snow is gone. Finally. And with the predicted warmth/sunlight, it’s leaving at a pretty good clip. Still can’t get my kayak trailer out, though….. snowbanks are still 2′ tall.

    1. Wswplz says:

      I’m up in the Cedar Springs Rockford area and we don’t have as much snow cover as you do in your area , as we are down to the 10-15 percent range , nearly all has melted on the open fields. I’m ready for the snow to be gone, I have enjoyed it while it s lasted but now it’s just blah brown ugly and ready for green grass lawn. :)

      1. GunLakeDeb says:

        What’s kind of funny is that the groomed snowmobile trails, because they are hard-packed snow (and the ground under them probably has deeper frost?) are the only snow visible in our local fields – they’re “white ribbons to nowhere” since they end at each road they cross

    2. suehelen says:

      We have a couple of drifts left along with the piles from the snow plow and of course, the snow in the ditches. I’m ready to do some major clean up! This winter has been terrible on my yard.

    1. Larry of Hastings, barry co says:

      Detroit baseball will never be the same. Life goes on, we have to make new memories.

  21. Travis (Oakland County) says:

    Well, tomorrow is April 1st, and I’m beginning to wonder if our snow records will be broken.

    The last four Aprils have seen very little to snow in Detroit. April 2009 had a rare snowstorm, however, so it could still happen.

    Tuesday looks even warmer than today now. Three straight days of 53-60 for Detroit. Awesome!

    Go Tigers!

    1. Travis (Oakland County) says:

      *very little to no snow

    2. Mark (East Lansing) says:

      Detroit only needs 1.9″ of snow to match the snowiest winter ever. But 2nd place ain’t bad. 3rd snowiest winter ever for Flint.

      1st all time for consecutive days with snow cover for Detroit and Flint.

      8th coldest winter ever for Detroit. 5th coldest for Flint.

      7th all time for the number of below zero days. 1st all time for Flint.

      3rd all time for the number of below freezing days. 2nd all time for Flint.

      I think enough records have been broken for one winter.

      1. Cliff(Scotts) says:

        Poor Travis silenced again!!!

        1. Travis (Oakland County) says:

          Huh?

      2. DF (SE Mich) says:

        LOL! No summer record even have come close to records like this. This last stretch of four months may be the most abnormal in a generation.

        1. Travis (Oakland County) says:

          What did we have? Like two or three warmest summers in a row… not one random winter 8th coldest.

        2. DF (SE Mich) says:

          LOL, Flint’s most recent warmest summer was 2010 at #7… To get in the top 6 you have to go back to 1936, sorry. This winter fell at #5 all time with the last four months at #1 coldest all time most likely.

          I challenge you to find a more abnormal warm 4 months, then the last 4 months have been cold, for Flint. Good luck.

    3. Barry in Zeeland says:

      Been cool for quite a while here, but March will finish below average for snowfall. Funny how that works.

  22. Jack says:

    PLAY BALL……CUE, “Centerfield” – John Fogerty (w/ lyrics) – YouTube
    ► 3:39► 3:39
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOwPr6kGHRE.

  23. Vincent(N.E.Kent CO) says:

    Ernie is ready for the game. I picture him sitting in his leather chair with a sun tea and popcorn. R.I.P. PLAY BALL!! It has been a long winter. 55° here now.

  24. Jack says:

    On March 31 in Southwest Lower Michigan…

    3/31/1923
    March goes out like a cold lion with record lows in the single numbers and lake effect snow showers.
    3/31/2006
    A tornado hits a few miles east of Jackson, taking down hundreds of trees and causing minor structural damage in the town of Leoni.

  25. Travis (Oakland County) says:

    60 degrees already in GR! 53 in downtown Detroit for the first pitch.

    1. Mark (East Lansing) says:

      Your excitement is completely understandable, especially since Detroit has only had four days with temps above average for the entire month of March.

      Heck, I even cracked open my sunroof when I went to pick up lunch.

      1. DF (SE Mich) says:

        When Flint is on the doorstep of all-time records for both snowfall and cold you get restless I guess.

        1. H&L says:

          Dude what is your deal??? Get out a love someone.

  26. Ned S. (East of Holland) says:

    I read today where the EPA is considering regulating cow flatulence and belching because it contributes to greenhouse gases(methane). I see higher beef and milk prices in our future. Will the madness from D.C. ever end?

    1. Larry of Hastings, barry co says:

      The EPA has been hard on farmers for years. I believe this is the reason why farmers are getting out of the farming business, and you can’t blame them.

      1. Rob( Norton Shores) says:

        I’m a farmer and its always a fight. DC thinks we are the enemy. You don’t like what we do don’t eat…or shut your mouth!

        1. Larry of Hastings, barry co says:

          I agree with you. My grandparents were farmers.

    2. Jeremy (Three Rivers) says:

      CO2 is plant fertilizer. I don’t know where they got the idea that it’s bad. More CO2 would actually benefit agriculture: http://icecap.us/images/uploads/Screen_shot_2013-05-10_at_3.48.33_PM.png I agree with you. It’s just a waste of time and money to try to squelch something that’s a benefit.

      1. Cort S. says:

        I’ve read somewhere that CO2 is not the limiting factor in plant growth. Sunlight, soil nutrients, or water tend to be the limiting factors. Maybe I’m wrong, or maybe you’re wrong. We should double check on that.

        https://www.skepticalscience.com/co2-plant-food.htm

  27. Officially 60 degrees here! First one of 2014!

  28. Larry of Hastings, barry co says:

    Heading to Battle Creek, nice day to get out.

  29. fixxxer says:

    65 out and woodtv is still talking ice lol.

    Nice weather huh rj? You hiding under your moms bed sucking on your binky cause its in the 60′s?

    On a side note finally leaving the crappy city of wyoming. Just got a new home in allendale. Im done dealing with the illegals and scum that reside there.

    1. Rob( Norton Shores) says:

      They are eveywhere, now what are you going to do?

    2. Jacob G says:

      Welcome to the snowbelts…

      1. DF (SE Mich) says:

        LOL!!!! Perfect comment!

        1. Jacob G says:

          Hopefully he realizes that means at least 3 more feet of snowfall each year. On the good news fixxxer it is the fluffy lake effect kind.

      2. Rocky (Rockford) says:

        +100 million, trillion, gazillion!

    3. Wswplz says:

      Illegals and scum nice Fixx….really. Is your family tree linear by nature.

    4. Rocky (Rockford) says:

      Classic fixxxer- totally classless and clueless and racist! Wow, get a life!

  30. Travis (Oakland County) says:

    62 degrees in GR. 10 degrees above average.

    58 here. That sun is nice!

    1. Nathan (Forest Hills) says:

      Finally we have an above average day… Back to even more below average temperatures tomorrow.

      1. Travis (Oakland County) says:

        I’m supposed to be even warmer tomorrow, at least that’s what they were saying this morning.

    2. DF (SE Mich) says:

      GR will have it’s 4th day above average for March. I wish they had it when I was there this past weekend…

  31. Wswplz says:

    62-63 here in Cedar Springs and the sun feels great, as this is officially my first day of true spring weather as opposed to conditioned spring weather. Kinda funny last night I was siting in my car in the driveway finishing up a conversation with my friend in Colorado , since my cell coverage is spotty in my house so I shut my car off and lost track of time talking to her ( she has that affect ). She later asked me how cold it was outside, I calmly replied ” oh it’s warm her now ” since the last time we spoke it was around -10. It wasn’t until she mentioned that we had been on the phone for nearly two hours that I looked down at my phone and noticed it was 32 degrees out , which I should have known since my breath was very visible in my car. That being said I was strangely very comfortable , and it was then when I thought to myself old man winter had actually taken my soul as we have been trapped in a world of snow and cold. Lol

    1. Jack says:

      “Deep Thinking” …… Stay Cued…STWPLZ…. ;-) …..he,heee

    2. Wswplz says:

      * Either that or I’m just a Snow Demon *. ” The Tomkap Countdown ” by the artist formerly known as T. K .

      His greatest hits album of 2013-14: Titled

      1. The final Snow Clown

      2. WSW no more

      3. No more Rocky on this Road

      4. I’m not clowin around

      5. The clowns on this blog keep on typing

      6. Tomkap gotcha tung

      7. The only good clown is a dead clown

      8. Winter is gone, spring has finally come

      * Jack que the only fitting song The final —– —-

      1. Wswplz says:

        * Title of the Album is: ( sorry it cut that part off )

        1. Wswplz says:

          Omg: ” The Final Countdown “

      2. Rocky (Rockford) says:

        :)

  32. Eileen (Hesperia) says:

    Great day for Tiger Baseball – 4-3 over the Royals!!! Keep it up Tigers :)

    1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

      + 100 trillion!

      1. Wswplz says:

        Good for the Tigers! Btw I guess you can’t use the greater / less than symbols on the blog as it completely erases anything in between those symbols. Now if that’s not the most useful information you have heard all day I’m not sure what is. Lol

  33. The coldest temperatures in the next 8 days will only be 38. Other than that, we will be in the 40′s. Finally no more days below 32 degrees for a high! From here on out the snow will only melt. Even if we get a snowstorm, 2 days later it will all be gone. So its looking like winter sport lovers are about done with there season. Now its time for warmer weather/thunderstorm lovers to get there share here soon! about time!

  34. jerry hoag says:

    Here ARE THE TORNADO REPORT IN Minnesota TODAY!!!

    All in Southwest Minnesota.
    Tornado Reports

    2048 3 N MINNEOTA LYON MN 4461 9597 STRUCTURAL DAMAGE (FSD)
    2108 3 SE ST LEO YELLOW MEDICINE MN 4469 9601 STRUCTURAL DAMAGE REPORTED WITH PROBABLE TORNADO SOUTHEAST OF ST LEO. TIME ESTIMATED. (MPX)
    2110 2 ESE ST LEO YELLOW MEDICINE MN 4471 9602 DAMAGE REPORTED … EXTENT UNKNOWN.

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