Ice Storm and Flooding

April 1st, 2014 at 12:19 pm by under Bill's Blog, Weather

ice storm graphic nbc augusta   Flooding - turn around don't drown  Calm and dry weather on Weds with highs in the upper 40s to near 50.  Rain/Freezing rain starts Weds. night (Weds. evening may still be dry).  The most like time for freezing rain will be late Weds. night into Thurs. morning and the most likely area will be north of I-96.   The morning NAM (caribou) gives G.R. 0.37″ Thurs. and then another 1.07″ Thurs. night into Friday.  Big Rapids gets 1.49″.  That would be significant enough to cause some moderate flooding. The rain may end with some flurries early Saturday.  Sunday should be the better half of the weekend weatherwise. Check out the Storm Prediction Center Severe Outlook Areas to see the large areas that may get severe thunderstorms and possible tornadoes.  Here’s the Severe Weather Discussion for Friday.

-Freezing rain potential develops Wednesday night and remains possible through Thursday night.

-Highest threat for freezing rain Wed night and early Thu will be south of a Pentwater to Alma line.

-Highest threat for freezing rain late Thu and Thu night will be along and north of a Holland to Lansing line.

-Amount of icing is uncertain due to uncertainty with temperatures.

-Already elevated river levels will see additional rises with liquid precipitation amounts of half an inch to one inch expected through Friday.


173 Responses to “Ice Storm and Flooding”

  1. Travis (Oakland County) says:

    63 degrees right now in Detroit

    38 degrees in GR

    Crazy day!

  2. Mark (East Lansing) says:

    Not the headline I was hoping to see, Bill. :-(

    1. Paul m says:

      it’s Bill April fool joke on you guys!

      1. Brian(Grandville) says:

        It better be.

      2. Wswplz says:

        It’s could be an April fools joke , however these factors are in the forecast discussion along with most of the models supporting this assertion. So if anything maybe the graphics are meant to be funny, but I think it’s meant to depict a strong possibility, at least that’s my take from what I’m seeing, and has a good probability of occurring. I guess the only one who knows would be Bill, maybe he will set us strait. :)

  3. Mark (East Lansing) says:

    We’re moving my grandparents Thursday. Ugh…

  4. Hunter 13 says:

    Planning on heading to the Manistee area first thing Friday morning. Leaving from the Lansing area. I know it says the amount of icing is uncertain, but any guesses on what I should expect during my drive? Thanks for the feedback.

    1. Larry of Hastings, barry co says:

      I would check traffic/weather before heading out.

    2. Rocky (Rockford) says:

      You will be seeing SNOW!

      1. bret says:

        Warm weather is coming and hot weather will be here soon get used it. Its not to early to think about a summer sport. Warm weather very soon who knew bring it

  5. Larry of Hastings, barry co says:

    I don’t think Bill would joke around about freezing rain. Looks like Hastings/northern Barry County might get a little of the freezing rain Thursday. It will be a close call, depends on the temperature.

    1. Paul m says:

      In the previous thread models are showing Thursday/Friday low moving thru Milwaukee to Ludington line.
      Would be awesome to see it go thru Iowa to Madison to GreenBay line.
      Bring on warm air and thunderstorms

      1. Larry of Hastings, barry co says:

        I would like to see warm/thunderstorm instead of freezing rain.

  6. Brian(Grandville) says:

    This is what Mondays mid west storm looked like temp wise. This is one amazing image.

      1. Cort S. says:

        Sioux Falls went from 63 to 25 degrees in 3 hours. There was a tornado warning a few counties to the north from a cell in the warm sector heading toward the northwest. The blizzard warning for the same county started a few hours later. Here is what the radar looked like:

        1. Mark (East Lansing) says:

          That’s crazy!

        2. DF (SE Mich) says:


        3. Ryan (Rockford) says:

          That is so incredibly amazing. The 38-degree drop in 3 hours is incredible; not to mention the temperature difference between Sioux Falls (SE South Dakota, when it was still in the 60′s) and North Central South Dakota. From the looks of the map that Brian posted, there was probably a 50-degree temperature difference in maybe 200 miles.

        4. Wswplz says:

          Hey Cort , what time did that occur as I was going through some of the different radar sites after that initial band of rain moved through our area last night and I think I saw that cell moving through as it kinda stood out obviously. I think I was either looking around 2:00- 4:000am can’t recall for sure as I never gave it much thought other than it being a little odd. Did you happen to get any convective storms moving through your area on Sunday eve , my friend who lives in Denver said she had a few SVR warned storms in her area, curious if you had any around you.

        5. Cort S. says:

          That particular tornado warning happened at about 4:30 pm EDT yesterday.

          Yes, on Sunday I was in the low 60s around noon and by late afternoon I was in the upper 30s with a wet half-inch of snow sitting on the grass. We did get some scattered lightning-producing convection with the front and then a lot of precipitation behind the front.

  7. fixxxer says:

    I want to know when the hell spring time temps will come and stay. Ive seriously had enough already!

      1. GunLakeDeb says:

        OK, “Rocky”…. ;-)

    1. on the Grand says:

      Me too.

    2. Rocky (Rockford) says:

      Imagine that – fixxxer is whining and complaining! Surprise, surprise!!

      1. bret says:

        Warm weather soon hot and humid will be visting soon who knew. All the snow will be melted and summer sports will be here try pickin one up. Thunderstorms and hot weather get used to it or move who knew imagine that

  8. INDY says:

    42* in Decrapp now don’t look I travass it’s below normal!! INDYY!!!

    1. Barry in Zeeland says:

      Ok, I’ve read your line several times over and I have no idea what you are trying to say.

      1. Justin (Grand Haven) says:

        Does anybody?

      2. Rodey (Rockford) says:

        Assdy doesn’t know what he’s trying to say.

      3. Teughcats (Midland) says:

        42 degrees in Detroit now. Don’t look in Traverse it’s below normal.

        How’s that for translation? lol

        Indy must have had a few Sprites already.

        1. Josh From Zeeland says:


        2. INDY says:

          lolololo that must be DF talking !!! INDYY!!

        3. GunLakeDeb says:

          Indy – you must have brown eyes because you are FULL of cr@p! We all know you are Josh.

        4. Josh From Zeeland says:


        5. Bobby (Ada) says:

          And Indy…. i mean “Josh” is busted again… Tisk Tisk with all of the aliases

        6. GunLakeDeb says:

          He just can’t help himself, Bobby…..LOL!!!!

      4. Wswplz says:

        I think I cracked the code, as it looks like he is saying: It is 42 degrees in Detroit , don’t look now Travis it’s below normal.! That’s what I interpreted after reading it 4 times over. :) lol

  9. Joe says:

    Break out the Indy to English translator.

    1. Mark (East Lansing) says:


      1. Bobby (Ada) says:

        Idiotics ;)

    2. Jack says:

      “Indy”toxcicated !!! ;-) .

  10. Ryan (Rockford) says:

    Some light snow flurries and pellets fell from Rockford down to I-96 along the Beltline between 12:30 and 1:00. Quite the difference from the last two days! Welcome to April.

  11. mr. negative says:

    Cold, colder coming, overcast, wind, flurries…set in place for another 90 days.

    1. Larry of Hastings, barry co says:

      Mr. Negative…

  12. Bernie at the lakeshore says:

    The best way I can think of to prepare for an ice storm is start cleaning out the freezer and eat as much as I can just in case I lose power for a few days.

    1. mr. negative says:


    2. GunLakeDeb says:

      Don’t worry about the freezer – just set the stuff in the garage. It will stay frozen…..LOL!!!!

  13. Nathan (Forest Hills) says:

    Accuweather is calling for strong thunderstorms Thursday with highs near 60 and TWC is saying ice with a high near 40… I like both :)

    1. DF (SE Mich) says:

      … and the NWS at a high of 38°. Nice. Something will happen :)

      Thursday: Freezing rain likely before 8am, then a chance of rain or freezing rain. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 38. Breezy, with an east wind 18 to 21 mph, with gusts as high as 29 mph. Chance of precipitation is 60%. New precipitation amounts of less than a tenth of an inch possible.

    2. Larry of Hastings, barry co says:

      AccuWeather does a better job than TWC.

      1. Larry of Hastings, barry co says:

        Bill’s forecast is even better.

        1. Jack says:

          IN BILL WE TRUST !!!! Stay Cued………………… ;-)

    3. Jeff (Richland) says:

      What’s to like about ice?

      1. Nathan (Forest Hills) says:

        Fun to track

  14. Barb says:

    In looking at the climate report and weather catastrophes world wide, not to mention the northern 1/2 of our own country, we should be alarmed at our continued cold outlook as far as planting, growing season, etc. Even with the snow gone, the ground won’t be warm enough to germinate or sustain plants. The trees won’t bloom, plus are there enough bees left to pollinate them?

    1. Bill Steffen says:

      This is certainly not what the global warming alarmists predicted: There are no more weather catastrophes now than in the past – there are a lot more people in the way of hurricanes and tornadoes, but the number and intensity of hurricanes and tornadoes has actually gone down in recent years. We’ve had cold winters before (the late 1970s, 1936, 1920, 1904). This cold winter is part of our Michigan climate and has not been caused by CO2.

      1. Larry of Hastings, barry co says:

        I agree, thanks Bill.

      2. Mark (East Lansing) says:

        As I’ve said before, I’m not on either side of the GW argument. I liken them to Congress. Both make compelling arguments but there’s no way in hell I’ll trust either of them.

        Anyway, it seems to me that flooding our environment with pollution and CO2 cannot be a good thing – regardless of the potential outcome. Where’s Woodsy Owl when when need him?

        1. Mark (East Lansing) says:

          I mean, look at the ocean. How many false alarms have there been in looking for flight 370? Hey, there it is! Wait nope, just more tons of garbage floating around.

          I read somewhere that more plastic was created in the first decade of this century than all other decades combined. That’s A LOT of plastic!

        2. Bill Steffen says:

          CO2 emissions in the U.S. are falling, now down to a 20-year low:
          Same for Europe and Japan. Where CO2 emissions are skyrocketing is the rest of Asia (China):

        3. Mark (East Lansing) says:

          We’ve all seen the photos of China’s pollution and it’s sickening. And there’s nothing that can be done about it.

        4. GunLakeDeb says:

          Mark – they CAN do something about the pollution – but first they have to CARE.

        5. Mark (East Lansing) says:

          Good point.

  15. INDY says:

    Who would of thought April being below normal !!! 34* out at thee YARDofBRICKS!! INDDY!!

  16. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    I love the temperatures outside today! Lets move this storm about 200 miles to Souht and just clobber us with SNOW baby!

    1. Rodey (Rockford) says:

      And all RAIN here. Bring it. Fantastic. I love it.

      1. bret says:

        Warm weather will be upon us soon get up and pick up a sport thunderstorms and humid nights i love it bring who knew imagine that

  17. INDY says:

    Can’t ever remember April being so cold who would of thought !!! Sprite it up!!! INDYY!!

    1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

      Who knew?

  18. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    The new normal! The mini ice age is upon us! Get ready for winters that are COLDER and SNOWIER than average! I

    1. Larry of Hastings, barry co says:

      I can save money this summer by not using my A/C.

      1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

        That is the spirit!

      2. GunLakeDeb says:

        Hopefully, it makes up for all the extra gas used to keep ourselves warm these last 6 months….

  19. Larry of Hastings, barry co says:

    We need a good thunderstorm to get the frost out of the ground and warmer temperatures.

  20. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    Keep the temps below freezing night, so the ski resorts can keep making SNOW! I hope they are still open in May!

    1. C.W. says:

      Really? You still think that they are making snow??? For all your winter sports enthusiasm you don’t know too much do you.

    1. Jack says:

      There is a CUE,,,for That…..COLD, COLD, COLD !!! Spin, Little Feat :::: Crank it Rocky, and Nephew Indy…….. ;-) . Stay Cued…… ;-)

    2. Cali1005 says:

      But little snow, aww too bad.

    3. Rodey (Rockford) says:

      RAIN RAIN RAIN. Bring it. Fantastic.

      1. bret says:

        I love it imagine that who knew

  21. Dan (Byron Center) says:

    TomKap did you happen to catch Bill’s information posted here? I don’t think it’s an April fools joke! You are the reliable source right?

    1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

      + 100 Trillion!

    2. Wswplz says:

      Nice Dan…lol. My comment earlier had you in mind when he said, you should read the forecast again, as a response to one of your posts. I really don’t understand the anger anyways, as I usually just post weather information and this was the case earlier as I rarely respond to his jabs, I think the bait and switch by old man winter has him up in arms, anyways onwards and upwards. :)

  22. Cali1005 says:

    Good I hope we do get that inch of rain. It will help melt the rest of this white crap faster.

  23. Jacob G. says:

    Latest hires NAM shows 1/2″ of ice north of I96 for a 12 hour window Wednesday night/Thursday morning. Approaching on ice storm warning criteria. I would suspect headlines by tomorrow morning for some of the CWA. The main batch of moisture on Friday is still showing less freezing rain and quicker transition to rain.

  24. Cort S. says:

    Almost 40 years ago since the April 3-4, 1974 Super Outbreak.

    With today’s convection-allowing computer models, here is what they would have predicted in terms of updraft rotation using the observed weather data before the outbreak began:

    1. GunLakeDeb says:

      Wow there were some powerful tornadoes in all that mess….. that’s just mind-blowing to see.

  25. John (Norton Shores) says:

    Sorry I haven’t been on much, I am trying to stay away from the blog 24/7, instead I will only be posting a couple times each day unless something big is in store like a storm. The amount of ice still looks uncertain for the end of this week, but more clear as we get closer. The NWS is now calling for up to 1/4″ of ice northeast of GR for Thursday night into Friday morning, could be some serious problems if that happens, the commutes look quite slippery both Thursday morning and Friday morning.

    1. Larry of Hastings, barry co says:

      Some days I am on my iPad too much. The other day my granddaughter told me that I loved my iPad more than her. She is 5 years old, going on 12. She has her own ipad, believe me she knows more than I do on how to down load etc.

  26. INDY says:

    Ice storm warnings are coming!! Stay Tuned!! INDYY!!

    1. Jack says:

      All the snow has turned to water
      Christmas days have come and gone
      Broken toys and faded colors
      Are all that’s left to linger on
      I hate graveyards and old pawn shops
      For they always bring me tears
      I can’t forgive the way they rob me
      Of my childhood souvenirs

      Memories they can’t be boughten
      They can’t be won at carnivals for free
      Well it took me years
      To get those souvenirs
      And I don’t know how they slipped away from me

      Broken hearts and dirty windows
      Make life difficult to see
      That’s why last night and this mornin’
      Always look the same to me

      I hate reading old love letters
      For they always bring me tears
      I can’t forgive the way they rob me
      Of my sweetheart’s souvenirs

      1. Bill Steffen says:

        On a related note
        I join the list of bards
        To lament the day my mother
        threw out my baseball cards

        1. Jack says:

          Ain’t That The Truth BILL… They Would be worth some BIG $$$$$$$… Lol…. Stay Cued…

        2. Dan (Byron Center) says:

          Bill that is classic!

  27. Today’s weather sucks. If it wasn’t windy, it would not be to bad

    1. John (Norton Shores) says:

      Tomorrow should be a better day, more sun and highs around 50 :)

      1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

        You are correct about the sun, however I do not expect the temps in GR to get out of the low 40′s!

  28. John (Norton Shores) says:

    Glad were not in Minneapolis, winter storm watch for 6-12″ of snow and 1-2″ per hour snowfall rates. It can stay there!

    1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

      That sounds simply AWESOME! I would love to be there this week!

      1. Nathan (Forest Hills) says:

        Its almost spring break… why don’t we get a change of seasons and enjoy something different where we can actually enjoy the outdoors. Sledding and skiing isn’t possible without the snow. So we had might as well warm up and garden.

        1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

          I have been snowmobiling and skiing for 16 straight weeks and I will be skiing again this weekend and next week and next weekend! NW Lower MI will be picking up more SNOW well into April this year! Bring it!

        2. Nathan (Forest Hills) says:

          Im not seeing too much snow in NW lower… only ice and clouds. Im pretty sure winter is done, it has been for many weeks now.

        3. Rocky (Rockford) says:

          Boyne MT is open for skiing at least through April 20th and conditions are VERY GOOD! Who knew?

        4. Rocky (Rockford) says:

          At least 2 to 4 inches coming for NW Lower MI! Imagine that!

      2. Rodey (Rockford) says:

        Maybe you can get your parents to drive you Minneapolis.

        1. C.W. says:

          Maybe they could drive them both some place else way way away from here…

    2. GunLakeDeb says:

      I don’t know – I think I’d take snow over freezing rain? Snow doesn’t tend to take down power lines this time of year; and it wouldn’t last long….

  29. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    COLD and SNOW ROCKS! The BEST WINTER EVER lives on and on and on! The SNOW line is inching to the SOUTH! Lets keep that trend rolling!

    1. Rodey (Rockford) says:

      The latest map is even better. Shows the snow line further north. Nothing but RAIN. Fantastic. I love it. Bring it. Thanks for listening.

      1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

        Get a life fixxxer!

        1. Rodey (Rockford) says:

          Thanks for paying attention and commenting. I love it. Fantastic. Who knew?

        2. GB says:

          Ha fell for your own tricks

  30. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    Should be some GREAT skiing up at BOYNE MT this weekend! Come on up and enjoy the SNOW!!!!!!!!

    1. bret says:

      Warm weather is coming who knew fantastic i love it who knew

      1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

        Thanks for the compliment! Keep it up!

  31. INDY says:

    Gun lk deb needs to go fishing or do a puzzle winter must be getting to her!! Bill tell her I am not Josh please!! INDY would never be from zland Yuck!! She’s making me drink more sprites just like the cold is sold for Spring this year!! INDYY!!!!

    1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

      Forget the warm Spring weather – lets keep the COLD coming! Skiing – yes! Golf -no!

    2. Jack says:

      Hahhahahah….” THERE IS ONLY 1 Indy………!!!!!!!!!!!!! He is a close personal FRIEND of mine !!! Met INDY through Bills Blog. BUT, Quess What it Turned out My Lady and I knew Him from YEARS AGO. Indy is kind, caring, and A ALL AROUND..Great GUY. Indy, and myself joke about all The ALIASSES on Here hmmmmm. That’s. ENTERTIANMENT…..Stay Cued…4 More CHEERS to INDY !!!! ;-)

      1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

        +100 Gazillion!

        1. bret says:

          + a bilion warm weather is coming pick up a summer sport and enjoy it warm weather is coming fantastic who knew bring it i love it

        2. Rocky (Rockford) says:

          Hey bret – I mean fixxxer – thanks for the compliment! It is appreciated!

        3. bret says:

          Warm weather comimg get used to bring it i love it thanks for reading

      2. GunLakeDeb says:

        Oh – I don’t doubt that Indy is a real person. But why would “Josh” keep signing “Indyy!!!” ;-) Indy’s done it before with other names, too.

        1. INDY says:

          Keep fishing Deb!! YOUR WRONG!! INDYY!!

        2. suehelen says:

          Personally? I think there are some with way too much time on their hands. ;-)

    3. Larry of Hastings, barry co says:

      Everyone looks the same on this blog, I have a hard time remembering who is who.(haha)

      1. GB says:

        Pine rest would have a fieldday here on the blog

        1. Dan (Byron Center) says:

          They may need some miracle grow and warmer temps. There isn’t much growing in the fields!

        2. Larry of Hastings, barry co says:

          Pine Rest more than likely would invite me to stop by for visit.

        3. Wswplz says:

          The pine rest comment was kinda funny as I’m assuming that is a place for mental health and addiction, as the name says it all. ( nothing wrong with those places btw ) however I would rather not check in if at all possible. Hehe

  32. INDY says:

    Bills best runs this blog!! Glad to be one for all and all for one!! We need a blog party to show some fun faces of weather!! Uncle Yack Yack cue us up a good one!! INDYY!!!

    1. Jack says:

      No Problemooo, INDY…. CUE, JOHN PRINE ( because BILL LIKES John Prine)))). A Classic By Him Called “Illegal SMILE”"”" CUE :::::: Stay Cued..puff ,,,puff…& pass the Giggle GRASS… ;-)

      1. INDY says:

        Wow good one uncle Yack Yack I bet Bill loves this one!! INDYY!

    2. Rocky (Rockford) says:

      Count me in if fixxxer and TomKap are in attendance, because I would like to give them a piece of my mind in person! For that matter I will take them both on at once in a boxing ring!! Bring it baby!

      1. INDY says:

        lol!! I think fixer lives in Texas and tomcat works at Dennys!! Go luck getting them 2 come!! INDYY!!

        1. Rocky (Rockford) says:


  33. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    If this cold weather keeps up I may plan a ski trip to the UP during the first weekend in May! INCREDIBLE! SkiBrule here I come! I love it!

    1. bret says:

      INCREDIBLE warm weather is coming WHO KNEW IMGAINE THAT. Pick up a summer sport hot humid weather will be here soon WHO KNEW IMAGINE THAT THANKS FOR READING

      1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

        Thanks for the compliments! It is much appreciated!!!

        1. Rodey (Rockford) says:

          And thanks for paying attention to another blogger and taking the time to comment. Fantastic. I love it. Who knew. Thanks for listening.

        2. bret says:


  34. INDY says: A cue for uncle sparky Yack Yack and Bills best!! Crank it!! INDYY!!

    1. Jack says:

      Sad, BUT True Song….. Thank a VET Today !!! :-( . :-)

  35. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

    SlimJim NW GR (1) says:
    February 23, 2014 at 11:10 am
    Any body want to take a guess as to when the snow will melt? At this time my guess is for most of the snow to be gone by March 23 but the big parking lot piles to be around until April 12 (both dates subject to change) Anyone else have any guesses?

    Back on February 23rd I made this prediction and it still looks good as March 23rd was the last day the airport reported a 1” snow cover (but it did snow again on the 25th) I know there are many places where the snow cover lasted later then the 23rd and even here in my yard I still have snow in the several areas in the back yard and I still have the drive way snow piles left (but they will be gone by my April 12th date as for the bigger snow piles? They may stick around after the 12th but hey this has been one cold March and winter

  36. A much as ice is destructive and causes so many issues, I almost at this point in the year prefer it over snow. At least the ice will melt the next day with temps above freezing, unlike the December 22 storm where we stayed cold and the ice stayed on the trees.

  37. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

    We will have to wait and see how the temps are I would think that the further north you are and the higher in elevation you are the better (or worst) chance of seeing freezing rain over the next few days. Here in the GR area I would expect to see a cold rain for the most part.

  38. Jack says:

    WOW !! Thank The Good Lord, For another GORGEUS Sunset !!! :-)

  39. Jack says:

    BILL CUE::: Wayne Watson – There Goes Sundown – YouTube
    ► 4:05► 4:05 Stay Cued & God BLESS… :-)

  40. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

    As for the ski areas in Michigan being open in May? I think there is a chance that could happen but its still 29 days away and a lot can happen in that time. It should be noted that last year Marquette ended March with 34″ of snow vs 35″ of snow this year and there was a snow cover in Marquette last year until May 3rd

    1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

      Rock on SlimJim – keep the facts coming – skiing in May in MI this year is a real possibility! Who knew?

      1. bret says:

        Who knew warm weather will be here and no more snow humid nights and hot days soon get used to it imagine that bring i love it thanks for reading

        1. Rodey (Rockford) says:

          Keep the good news coming. +1 gazillion trillion billion million. Bring it

        2. yooper4021 says:

          Impressive. You’ve mastered the copy/paste function. Now let’s try punctuation. Periods and commas can be fun.

        3. Rodey (Rockford) says:

          Impressive. You’ve mastered being an ass. Keep up the good work. Is that better?

        4. yooper4021 says:

          No, unless your name is bret.

        5. steven (Derby Lake) says:

          Some people fail to realize that the Upper Peninsula is packed full of snow right now and plenty more on the way.

  41. INDY says:

    I said snow storm April 6th could it be!! Wow who would of thought!! INDYY!!

  42. INDY says:


    1. Mark (East Lansing) says:

      8.2? 8.3? A huge quake.

  43. Paul m says:

    Wow the model run keep pushing the low pressure further west and bringing warmer temp further north.
    Lower 60s I94 corridor.keep coming north!

    1. Brian(Grandville) says:

      What model, and what day/days is that for?

      1. Paul m says:

        GFS and Friday

        1. Brian(Grandville) says:

          That’s fine with me. Bill has 50* in G.R. for Friday, so maybe.

    2. Larry of Hastings, barry co says:

      Might be the day we rock n roll…stay turn to the weather experts on this blog.

      1. Larry of Hastings, barry co says:

        *tune….instead of turn.

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