April 5th, 2014 at 2:22 am by under Bill's Blog, Weather

snow near marquette cloudy   First, check out the flying porta-potty in the McKinney, Texas tornado on Thurs.  Note the debris coming toward you at first and then going away from you.   This what it looks like up by Marquette.  The latest snowstorm dumped up to 17″ of snow in the Western and Central U.P.   Here’s some U.P snow depths:  55″ Painesdale, 52″ Mohawk, 51″ Eagle Run, 44″ Nawakwa Lake, 41″ Grand Marais, 39″ Marquette (airport), 35″ Paradise,  31″ Ironwood, 26″ S. Ste. Marie.  In Lower Michigan, 14″ near Mancelona (in the woods) and at Maple City, 12″ Gaylord, 10″ Boyne Falls.  Not including Friday’s snow, Delaware was up to 296.5″ for the winter.  Mt. Bohemia leads the list with 320″ for the winter.  They report “epic skiing” with 12″ of new snow.  Here’s downtown Houghton.  Up to 17.2″ fell in NW Wisconsin.

Saturday AM Model update:  Partly sunny, dry weekend…low-mid 40s Saturday, mid 50s Sunday.  Rainfall Monday:  NAM (caribou) 0.33″ for G.R., only 0.01″ for Muskegon (sharp NW edge) and 0.46″ in Jackson.  The NAM has a couple weak snow showers north of Muskegon Tuesday morning.  the GFS (caribou) plot has 0.25″ of rain Monday and a game time temp. of about 43° for the Whitecaps Tues. evening.  It also gives G.R. low 60s on Thurs.  The GFS plot has 0.17″ for G.R. Monday and 0.06″ on Thursday PM with a high of 59 on Thurs.  The European model has 0.21″ for G.R. Monday and another 0.03″ Tuesday.  That model is a little warmer on Tuesday with a Whitecaps game-time temp. in the upper 40s.  The good news is, no flooding rains and we get another week when the pattern is cool and severe storms stay to our south.      Have a good weekend.  I’ll be rooting on my alma mater (Wisconsin) in the Final Four.   Got a lot of work to do around the house and I’ve got a dinner to go to on Sunday. (pic. from

Also:  Cool pic. of the Tungurahua Volcano in Equador.  Here’s another pic. of the eruption. One more pic.  The Ubinas Volcano is erupting in Peru.   Flooding in the Solomon Is.  16 fatalities.

120 Responses to “Sunday”

  1. Scott (robinson twsp) says:

    Poor UP going to have snow till June!

    1. Mr.Positive says:

      You’d be surprised how fast 3 feet of snow can melt, especially at this time of year. Look how fast we melted our 20 inches of snow in the last month despite the overall cold temperatures.

      1. GunLakeDeb says:

        Agreed! One week ago, Gun Lake was still supporting Ice-bike racers (motorcycles with studded tires) – and today, the entire SW bay is open water and I think I saw some sailboarders gearing up!

  2. Larry of Hastings, barry co says:

    Never seen a flying porta-potty before, kind of funny. Hope no one was using the potty. I seen on TV last night, down in Texas, they had hail coming through the roof of Wal-Mart. They were showing the peoples vehicles out in the parking lot, windshields smashed out, dents, etc.cause by the large hail storm. And they had a tornado warning at the same time. Texas is known for tornadoes and rattle snakes. Looks like the state of MO had the most severe storms on Friday.

  3. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    Great picture! Keep the facts coming relating to the COLD and SNOW in MI! It will be an AWESOME day on the slopes today! INCREDIBLE! EXCELLENT skiing conditions in April with no change in sight!!!

    1. Larry of Hastings, barry co says:

      I bet you would love living at the North Pole?

      1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

        No, but I would love to live in a climate that had COLD and SNOW for about 7 or 8 months and then a cool summer! Latter people, I am on my way up to SNOW HEAVEN baby! This will be 17 weeks in a row!!!!!!!!!!!

        1. Larry of Hastings, barry co says:

          Enjoy the snow while you can.

  4. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    >>>BREAKING NEWS>>>> GR will not be seeing any 70 degree temperatures during the month of April and for that matter very few days above 70 degree in May! We are in a COLD pattern, so get used to it! Get outside and enjoy the weather people! Skiing in Lower MI through at least mid April and skiing in the UP till at least the beginning of May!

    1. Rodey (Roxkford) says:

      More breaking news. GR will be seeing plenty of temps in the 70′s in May. This will be a fantastic Spring and Summer so get used to it. No more SNOW storms until Dcember. I love it. Fantastic. Bring it.

    2. fixxxer says:

      your a moron, seek help.

      1. Cort S. says:

        (Point loses its punch when you’re is misspelled.)

    3. bret says:

      Warm weather soon just the facts hot sunny days soon i love it pick up a summer sport and enjoy the weather bring it

  5. SBPortage002 says:

    Rather be here than up there right now. Mostly 50s this upcoming week. Making progress in the right direction, But it is April, known for temp swings.

  6. Mark (East Lansing) says:

    Looks to be a little cool today. Tomorrow looks wonderful. 50s and maybe 60s this next week? Hallelujah. I’ll take it.

    1. yooper4021 says:


    2. Larry of Hastings, barry co says:


  7. Rodey (Rockford) says:

    More breaking news. GR will be seeing plenty of temps in the 70′s in May. This will be a fantastic Spring and Summer. No more SNOW storms until December. Get used to it. I love it. Fantastic. Bring it. This will be the third weekend in a row for grilling outside. Who knew?

    1. kevin. says:

      good one.

    2. Cliff(Scotts) says:

      Haha good one Rodey!!!

  8. kevin. says:

    More breaking news. GR will be seeing plenty of temps in the 70′s in May. This will be a fantastic Spring and Summer. No more SNOW storms until December. Get used to it. I love it. Fantastic. Bring it. This will be the third weekend in a row for grilling outside. Who knew?

    1. Ned S. (East of Holland) says:

      How about giving it a rest?

      1. Jen from Middleville says:


    2. yooper4021 says:

      The tango has started early today.

      1. kevin. says:

        who cares the best blog that keeps takin a beatin.

  9. Jen from Middleville says:

    I need some natural heat or at least sunshine to aid in my upcoming “lemon wine” fermenting. Don’t want to turn tree thermostat up just for that, but when the sun shines in the sunroom it’ll be perfect!

  10. bluegill says:

    Couple inches of fresh snow last night in NE Grand Traverse County. We’ve had snow on the ground since November 22, which is 135 days. I imagine the UP will make a run on going over 180 days in some places – half a year.

  11. SW Kent says:

    Sunny and 80 here in southern California. Mid 90′s by Tuesday.

    1. Mark (East Lansing) says:

      Lucky dog. :-)

  12. Craig (Holland North Sider) says:

    I’m looking at temps in the low to mid 80′s and sunny skies for my vacation next week to San Antonio. Been counting down the days since January.

  13. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

    Here we are on April 5th 2014 and once again we are off to a cold start I now have some sun and a temp of 32° after a over night low of 29° Also the ground is white from a light snow fall last night. Its more then time for it to warm up!
    Looking around the state April has been off to a cold start and its colder (to average) the further north you go. Here are several cities and how far below average so far here in April.

    GR -2.9°
    Alpena -3.1 with 3 inches of snow on the ground
    Gaylord -4.8
    Traverse City -3.6
    Marquette -5.4 with 32 inches of snow on the ground
    Houghton a whopping -7.2
    Saginaw -1.9°
    Now for a couple of “warmer” cities
    Flint -0.3°
    Detroit +0.2°

  14. Cort S. says:

    Height-above-ground(porta-potty) is directly proportional to proximity(tornado). We call this mathematical relationship Schidder’s Law.

    1. yooper4021 says:

      LOL – very nice Cort.

    2. Mark (East Lansing) says:

      Well played, good sir.

    3. Craig (Holland North Sider) says:


    1. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

      Pictures to show you the snow



  15. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

    We picked up around an inch of snow last night in the Muskegon area. The roads and walkway were solid ice this morning!

  16. I honestly don’t see who would want any more snow, especially in the U.P. Yes ski lovers love it, but does anyone ever think of the deer and turkeys and other wildlife up in the UP? The deer and other animals have to be very weak up there with in some areas over 50″ still in the Keewenaw Peninsula. I don’t know if many of you are big outdoorsmen like me, but there is a reason that some of the deer or turkey seasons get closed up there, and that is because the low density in the population. Although the season is open for turkey starting April 21, I doubt the harvesting numbers will be high. Me and my dad hunted the UP before and in our entire trip, we saw not 1 deer, when down here I see them all the time. I don’t blame the deer for coming down into the lower peninsula for better winters. Lets just hope and pray that the U.P. melts this snow at a fast pase, yet just barely slow enough to avoid flooding, because the animals and even the people need a big time break up there.

    1. Matt (Spring Lake) says:

      Good morning, Kyle! Yes, the season has definitely been longer than normal, but several hundred inches of snow a year is quite common in the U.P. Nature takes care of itself and balances out. If a population of a certain species declines, it allows the population of another to often increase. With that population increase, it will allow for the increase of the original species’ population. While the deer population “May” be harmed this year, it will allow the vegetation they eat to grow in vast amounts, and eventually lead to more deer again. Death is a part of life…but so is new life.

      1. Good morning to you to Matt! and yes the balance of life is a great thing. That is one of the big things that I do being a hunter and an outdoorsmen. I am just expressing concern, because I am a person who loves wildlife and being out in nature, which is a big reason I do what I do. I am sure the deer are doing OK in a sense, because they are ver hardy animals, but I do not like seeing populations suffer.

        1. mk says:

          Howard Meyerson from the GR press said globle warming was hard on the deer herd, butterfly’s ect. he wrote that in November can you believe that?

        2. Bill Steffen says:

          If anything, snowfall is increasing in G.R. and in Michigan over the last decade and a half, not decreasing. Animal (and human) mortality peaks at the coldest time of the year. With animals, it’s very significant. This winter has been harsh and very hard on animals. They are very worried about the deer population in Canada: I’m sure the deer aren’t worried about “global warming” right now.

    2. Steven(DerbyLake) says:

      How do deer get from the U.P to the L.P??? I dont think they have thier own lane on the bridge. Animals tend to adapt to their conditions. Its been proven through genetics over time.

      1. Brandon (Hudsonville) says:

        I would guess some cross the lakes when they freeze up.

    3. GunLakeDeb says:

      My son-in-law, who’s an avid hunter/fisherman from the Traverse area, says many of the waterfowl who usually choose to NOT migrate and simply hang out in available open water, have died this winter due to a lack of open water and food. And it got me thinking: normally we have around 50 geese, who hang around the SW end of Gun Lake, where the dam creates enough current that the water seldom freezes. But THIS year, there was only a handful. I’m wondering if a bunch left to try to find food elsewhere; or if they *knew* this was a good year to migrate???

  17. DF (SE Mich) says:

    I must have missed the 60′s yesterday…

    I’m going to the U of M spring game today, perfect football weather. I have my MSU Rose Bowl shirt on for them to admire :)

    1. Larry of Hastings, barry co says:

      Maybe the Michigan team needs to see your shirt to get them fired up. GO. BLUE

    2. Andy G says:

      Ahhh yes, the MSU Rose Bowl victory. It is much like Halley’s Comet, you will only see them once in about every 76 years!

      1. DF (SE Mich) says:

        True :)

    1. I’ll take the debris ball as my slice haha

      1. Nathan (Forest Hills) says:

        Those towering cumulonimbus clouds look appetizing!

    2. Lisa (Caledonia) says:

      Fantastic! :)

    3. Larry of Hastings, barry co says:

      Cool birthday cake.

    4. Cort S. says:

      Nice volume display cake! That’s an upgrade from the four-panel display cake!

      1. Larry of Hastings, barry co says:

        Cool looking cake.

        1. GunLakeDeb says:

          Weather Geeks are so cool!!!!! :-)

  18. Eileen (Hesperia) says:

    Just had a Chinook military transport helicopter circling low around here. Has anybody heard anything as to what might be going on? It’s not something one sees every day – especially in Hesperia.

    1. Steven(DerbyLake) says:

      Ive had some military helicopters fly over here a few times the last couple days. Used to be a daily event, multiple times a day years ago. They would fly between grayling and battle creek. Both helicoptors and jets. That ended due to closing of Battle Creek and budget cuts. Chinooks usully fly pretty low. Maybe they are doing some training. We had 4 chinooks go over one time. Had to cover your ears.

      Aeromed flys over here alot also. They have a red and white flashers on them. Military should have a solid green light on the front and flashing white on the back.

    2. Larry of Hastings, barry co says:

      I use to live about 2 miles from Fort Rucker army base in Ozark,Alabama. This was the helicopter training base. Where I lived we had helicopters going over my house just about 24-7. You get use to it. I am almost like Radar on the TV show MASH, I can hear helicopters before most people hear/see them. I love the Chinook helicopter. I haven’t seen any army vehicles driving by my house in a long time or fly over. The National Guard from Battle Creek use drive through Hastings on their way Grayling and back. I will keep my eyes open for any army activity. Since we are ending our involvement in the middle east, we might see more military activity.

      1. Steven(DerbyLake) says:

        If I hear them coming I usually go out with the binoculars and see if they go directly overheard and wave or salute. Couple a-10s put on a little show one time. They can see you if they are low enough. There is alot of commercial air traffic going over quite a bit as well. sometimes they pop out fairly low under the cloud cover.

        1. Eileen (Hesperia) says:

          I thought it was Aero-Med flying at first when I heard it, but looked out the window and WOW. Went outside and watched them flying. They were really low. First time I’d ever seen one of them. Hope they fly over again – it was a real treat to watch :) Thanks guys for your info :)

        2. Larry of Hastings, barry co says:

          I have seen AirForce One fly over my house number of times. Bush/Obama flying to & from Grand Rapids. I seen the plane fly over that brought President Ford back home for the final time. I see a lot of commercial planes fly over. Here in Hastings we have a small airport.

        3. Steven(DerbyLake) says:

          Yea I seen air force one here once also. When they had Ford ceremony there multiple f-16s in theair but I think only 5 were used for the flyover? I was outside working on my car that day and I could hear more air traffic than normal. I got the binoculars to check it out and I counted almost more than a dozen of them flying around in a holding pattern. Then a bit later I looked and there was a larger looking commercial jet. They were refueling the F16s. Someone called into what was then 107.3 klq and said something about seeing them and they didnt believe it, so I called and confirmed it was and where they had been flying the last couple hours. They would disappear then come back. I couldnt find them for awhile then I seen a reflection in the sun off in the distance and it was them.

        4. steven (Derby Lake) says:

          Check out the Chicago air and water show sometime. It’s one of the last weekends in August.

        5. Wswplz says:

          Yes the air shows are incredible, used to see them once a year in October at the Miramar Air Base in San Diego ( happens to be the place where they filmed a small movie called ” Top Gun ” ) . The blue angels usually perform as well and every type of plane from stealth fighters to old bombers , so much fun and I was lucky enough to work a few blocks away so didn’t even need tickets but sat on lounge chairs on my companies roof. One year they were flying over and hit the after burns a bit to soon as the fighters went sub-sonic and blew out a few windows in our building , so worth it. Lol ;)

        6. Wswplz says:

          * obliviously sup – sonic not sub…hehe

        7. steven (Derby Lake) says:

          I went last year to Chicago air show, it was okay. They had to cancel a bunch of stuff because of the budget cuts, but the year before, was just badass. There was one jet doing some solo stuff and they said if he hit the after burners facing the skyline it would’ve blown most if not all the windows out in a 20+ block radius. lol

          The Chicago air and water show is free. It takes place on North Avenue beach area.

        8. Wswplz says:

          That would be an expensive sonic- boom with all those glass buildings downtown , I think Oprah lives in one of those near lake shore sky- rise buildings , like a whole floor is hers I think , I’m sure she could afford the repairs however. I looked briefly at the link you left , however do you know if they will be having a show more like the ones of past before budget cuts as you mention or still a scaled down version?

        9. steven (Derby Lake) says:

          I don’t think they announce the lineup until June or July. They always say the lineup is subject to change, which is true.

        10. steven (Derby Lake) says:

          2012 was their estimated largest crowd ever and I wouldn’t doubt it, it was packed. It’s estimated over a 1 million people attend it during the 2 days.

    3. Julie says:

      We had a helicopter fly over our house (which is in a remote location) and shine our house. Found out a week later they were doing training. It was really scary for us though, we called the police to ask if they were looking for someone and locked our house up well leaving lights on. Scary when that happens, especially at night.

      1. Wswplz says:

        When living in Dana Point Ca , not to far from Camp Pendleton Marine Base / training grounds they would do maneuvers almost everyday. You could get on the freeway ( I – 5 ) and drive about 8 miles south and the helicopters would fly about 100 feet over your head to practice landing about 250 yards from the highway or one could take the exit to the beach and watch them do beach landings with there different boats and huber crafts. You kinda get used to hearing them since I lived a block from the beach and they flew right along the coast almost daily. However it was a bit scary the first time I heard them firing heavy artillery at a place they call bunker hill as I didn’t know what was going on and thought we were at war , and this is about 15-20 miles from my home. Lol

  19. kevin. says:

    Now we just need a big storm to up toward Minnesota and dump about 5 inches of rain then warm up in the 60s. All the snow gone rivers fill and lakes melted and filled. Perfect weather coming I see two big storms coming with lots of rain. Fantastic. Love it and its Michigan. :)

    1. Rodey (Rockford) says:

      +1 gazillion, trillion, billion, million. Keep the good news coming. Spring just keeps rolling along.

    2. Jeff (Richland) says:

      Excessive rainfall is not what we need. We have been very lucky to avoid any real flooding this Spring. Although the snow is mosly gone, the ground is very wet and will not support heavy rainfall absorption.

  20. on the Grand says:

    When we lived in Baltimore, the president, it was Clinton at the time, would always fly over the house on Marine One. You knew it was him coming because 3 scout helicopters would fly over first, then in formation 5 more helicopter would arrive with the President in the middle. and then after that two more would follow up. They use to fly soooo low that you thought, they would fly into to the house and the noise was just awful. The kids would be jumping up and down and waving like crazy. Larry you are right, it was like a scene out of Mash and you could hear them coming before they got there.

  21. on the Grand says:

    During the summer months, the Coast Guard will fly up and down the Grand sometimes for hours real low you can almost touch them. When this happens you just stop and say a little pray because you know something bad has happened on the river.It is really not a happy sound.

  22. John (Norton Shores) says:

    The NWS has two 60 degree days for GR next week and several 50 degree days and only 1 upper 40 degree day, spring is near! :)

    1. Michael g (se GR) says:

      Spring better be near since it’s almost half way done!

      1. Jeff (Richland) says:


      2. Nathan (Forest Hills) says:

        Im thinking that my allergies will kick in around April 15th when the grass and leaves begin to grow again. Its a bit later than usual, but Im enjoying this fresh, nonpolenated air!

        1. Larry of Hastings, barry co says:

          My wife has allergies year round. In the spring you would think she was dying. This year she is going to the doctor. When I lived down in southern Alabama, during cotton/peanut harvest time you could see the dust in the air, a lot of people had trouble breathing.

      3. DF (SE Mich) says:


  23. shelbyville says:

    A couple of years ago I was mowing the lawn, and heard a loud rumbling. Five Government helicopters (not helo’s) flew over, so low to the ground I could see the pilots face and the armed men hanging out the side of the helicopters. Just so happens to be President Obama flying from GR to Kalamazoo for a speech. It was awesome!!!

    1. Brian(Grandville) says:

      I was building a house with a crew in Kentwood 10 years ago, and President Bush was flying into G.R. that day. It just so happened we were setting trusses that day with a large boom truck fully extended into the air. We had police arrive at our job site about 15 minutes before the plane landed to make sure it wasn’t anything other than heavy equipment we were using.

  24. Ive got 46 degrees here in Byron Center right now with clear skies. Today was a very nice day! Tomorrow will even better, with a forecasted day of 56 degrees for tomorrow with sunshine!

  25. Cort S. says:

    Radar quiz! What happened to the Salt Lake radar between 21:00 UTC and 21:18 UTC?

    1. DF (SE Mich) says:

      Mormania! :)

      1. Cort S. says:

        LOL… it went haywire for the LDS General Conference this weekend. :)

        1. DF (SE Mich) says:

          Please tell me you’ve gone down to Arches and Zion. Some of my favorite places on earth.

        2. Cort S. says:

          I did Zion. Haven’t been to Arches yet.

        3. DF (SE Mich) says:


    2. GunLakeDeb says:

      Did they adjust the sensitivity?

    3. Cort S. says:

      Answer: Lightning struck the radar and caused a hardware failure, which knocked the ground clutter suppression algorithm offline. The reds that popped up are mountains.

  26. Jack says:

    Photo of The DAY…Aurora Borealis , Thunder Bay ONTARIO ! HERE : BEAUTIFUL !!!, :-)

  27. Larry of Hastings, barry co says:

    I always wanted to make a trip to Thunder Bay, never did. Been to Toronto, Ont. number of times in my younger days.

  28. steven (Derby Lake) says:

    Going to be a nice sunset

  29. Jack says:

    Can We Make 60 degrees SUNDAY. ?? Hope so Staying Cued Here N.E. gr…….. ;-)

    1. Wswplz says:

      Let’s “Jack ” those temps up , we have been stuck in the cold for what feels like eternity now…jeez! Hey Rocky better get the last couple of cold and almost snow breaking news posts / ski trips in as this lovely winter is exciting stage left. I would not be surprised if we did see a little 4″ snow mixed in somewhere this month as a departing gift from the old grumpy man known as winter. I’m beyond ready to track some convective storms directly into south west lower Mi , as I can’t handle seeing them to just off in the neighboring states to our south without getting on on the action , torture I say!! :)

      1. Larry of Hastings, barry co says:

        Maybe next week, my friend. Sooner than later we will get our first BIG STORM of the season.

  30. Larry of Hastings, barry co says:

    Maybe next week, my friend. Sooner than later we will get our first BIG STORM of the season.

    1. Larry of Hastings, barry co says:

      My iPad going crazy…

      1. Wswplz says:

        I was just looking at some of the models / outlooks and it looks like we will have to wait at least a week and unfortunately maybe further than that. Its looking like the eastern sea board / southern state like LA , MS , GA are going to see some good rain and maybe a few SVR storms in the short term and basically the same type of weather for the Great Plains / Miss Valley and heavy precip around the 2nd week / middle of the month. Unless we have some unforeseen changes as the heat builds in the west and spreads slowly east but still looks to remain south of our area keeping the storm track below us we will most likely have to patiently wait. In the near term there will be a slight warming of temps for us but only to cool again as some areas to our south could see some flooding next week just on our southern border and below as the rivers rise downstream. I think maybe mid month and beyond might be where we need to set our sights for some severe weather pending any pattern changes of course as things can and will change. Closer to the month of May looks better for the chances of some SVR weather , at least from my interpretation of what I have seen in the forecast. Much can change in a week. :)

  31. DF (SE Mich) says:

    Go Wisconsin!!!!!!!!!!!!

    1. Wswplz says:

      Exactly go Badgers as Uconn will be waiting for the winner! I’m glad they beat Florida. Pulling for Wisconsin to move on and win it all…

  32. Bobby (Ada) says:

    Played golf today and playing again tomorrow! Warm warm warm in the forecast. Who knew?!

  33. What a great evening here in Michigan! the temperature is perfect. The only thing disturbing the night is the kids up the road running around in the field and woods making Indian sounds. No idea what they are up to lol

  34. Brian(Grandville) says:

    A disappointing loss for Wisconsin tonight. Going forward, and to whoever wins it all. How many of Kentucky’s freshman decide they are NBA ready, as their program has now had a reputation of doing so, as of late? History has shown us that not many have been successful doing so. Stay another year or two, prepare yourself, get some more experience, and maybe make some more money in return, when you’re actually ready.

    1. Brian (Grandville) says:

      If anyone watched the Kentucky press conference, I am sorry. Ya, they won the game, but wow kids.

      1. Wswplz says:

        One kid as a freshman already has an Adidas deal worth 150 million dollars the day he goes pro , it’s crazy how much things have changed. They shouldn’t make that public knowledge especially when these kids are only 18 , talk about a recipe for disaster. The Lebron James’s of the world are few and far between as I agree with you , however it’s to imagine being in that position when that kind of money is being offered and they see a way to help there families. Not an easy decision as injuries do happen.

        1. Brian (Grandville) says:

          Yup, Lebron’s, and Kobe’s are few and far between.

    2. Wswplz says:

      Wisconsin…..why, tuff loss although great run but so so close were Bill’s badgers to going all the way , sorry your team didn’t win tonight as I was pulling for them. Congrats on a great season!

    3. Mark (East Lansing) says:

      Wisconsin took care if the ball all season. They picked the wrong time to get turnover-happy.

      I just want the B1G to win. Only two national championships in the past 25 years.

  35. Larry of Hastings, barry co says:

    Go Tigers…4-0, very good start. It was a close game. Bill, sorry about your Badgers. Lost by 1 point. The Badgers will be back in the bracket next year, along w/UofM, MSU. Let’s GO BLUE. I seen on the news UofM had their spring game, they have a lot of work do before September.

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