Memorial Day at Lake Superior

May 27th, 2014 at 4:18 am by under Bill's Blog, Weather

Lake Superior ice Duluth Memorial Day Weekend Melissa EllisIce Lake Superior Grand Marais JC HULST (Jeff) 5 24 14  Snow U.P. near Lake Superior Whitefish Point 5 25 14 JC HULST Jeff  Spring 2014 10 day comparison Gaylord NWS Click on the pictures to enlarge. On the left, BRRRRRmaids at the beach in Duluth (From Melissa Ellis, KBJR and northlandnewscenter.com), then two pictures from JC Hulst showing the Lake Superior ice and a patch of snow near Grand Marais.  Finally, we have a 10-day comparison from the National Weather Service in Gaylord showing the frost (snow) on May 16 and how it looked after a relatively warm 10-day period.  Temperatures reached the low-mid 80′s across Upper Michigan and N. Lower Michigan, though we may very well have a percent of ice left on Lake Superior on June 1 (we were at 4% Monday, the highest % ever so late in the season.

Also, look at the heavy rains that have fallen in Texas:  Monthly rainfall:  Dallas 3.18″, Oklahoma City 3.47″, Amarillo 3.57″, Corpus Christi 3.83″, San Antonio 4.80″, Victoria 6.20″, Waco 6.26″, Houston 7.16″, San Angelo 7.75″.

Thanks to Anthony Watts for the link and the same to Steve Goddard and Real Science.

164 Responses to “Memorial Day at Lake Superior”

  1. Resourceful Nana says:

    Wonderful weekend weather! Only wish I had another day off work and that we had gotten more rain last night. Not quite 0.2 in the rain gauge this morning for just over 2 inches total for the entire month. Seems like snowfall is much more uniform than rainfall! The Great Lakes are up, but Portage Lake is low for this time of the year and there are farmers with their center pivots running!

  2. No offense but these threads about snow and ice are getting to become old news and repetitive. Not to complain but I’d like a new tread about something else to read for a change

    1. fixxxer says:

      Woodtv has a serious cold weather bias. Thats why rocky keeps trolling here. I agree these blogs about ice are tiring.

      1. Rad (Jenison/Hudsonville) says:

        I Have to agree with Kyle & Fixxxer on this.

      2. H&L says:

        Me too 5 of the last 8 posts, we got it there is ice up noth but its 80 and amazing here.

      3. Travis (Oakland County) says:

        +1 million

        1. Bill Steffen says:

          I put a picture of Lake Superior ice on the WOOD facebook page here: https://www.facebook.com/woodtv/photos/a.84218536235.81626.20114386235/10152360693061236/?type=1&theater As of 2:10 pm, it’s had 856 shares and 1,242 likes since I posted it around 4 am – the most of anything at the WOOD facebook page today – it shows people are interested in the ice information and pics.

        2. Amanda says:

          It’s making those of us in southern MI (who are not all that warm either, considering the date) that we really are fortunate not to be there. ;)

      4. ralphdraw3 says:

        Meanwhile, NASA’s GISS reported that – globally – April 2014 was the second-warmest April on record, considering land and ocean combined, behind April 2010. April 2014 averaged 0.73 degrees C. or 1.31 degrees F. above the 1951-1980 average. That’s in contrast to April 2010, which was was 0.80 degrees C. above the average, NASA said.

        Bottom line: Globally, April 2014 was tied with April 2010 for being the warmest April on record, or it was the second-warmest April on record.

        1. Bill Steffen says:

          And…here’s the NASA GISS DATA: http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs_v3/Fig.C.gif showing global temperature has been flat for over a decade. EVERYONE admits that, including James Hansen: “The five-year mean global temperature has been flat for the last decade… – James Hansen et al.

          The climate models are failing badly: http://www.climatedialogue.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Figure-2-Pielke.jpg

          From Dr. Judith Curry – Head of Climate Science at Georgia Tech:

          “For the past 16 years, there has been no significant increase in surface temperature. There is a growing discrepancy between observations and climate model projections. Observations since 2011 have fallen below the 90% envelope of climate model projections
          The IPCC does not have a convincing or confident explanation for this hiatus in warming.
          There is growing evidence of decreased climate sensitivity to atmospheric carbon dioxideconcentrations
          Based on expert judgment in light of this evidence, the IPCC 5th assessment report lowered its surface temperature projection relative to the model projections for the period 2016-2036.

          The growing evidence that climate models are too sensitive to CO2 has implications for the attribution of late 20th century warming and projections of 21st century climate change. Sensitivity of the climate to carbon dioxide, and the level of uncertainty in its value, is a key input into the economic models that drive cost-benefit analyses, including estimates of the social cost of carbon.

          If the recent warming hiatus is caused by natural variability, then this raises the question as to what extent the warming between 1975 and 2000 can also be explained by natural climate variability. In a recent journal publication, I provided a rationale for projecting that the hiatus in warming could extend to the 2030’s. By contrast, according to climate model projections, the probability of the hiatus extending beyond 20 years is vanishing small. If the hiatus does extend beyond 20 years, then a very substantial reconsideration will be needed of the 20th century attribution and the 21st century projections of climate change.”

        2. ralphdraw3 says:

          Yeeah, you keep showing this deceptively short-term GIF, Bill.

          This data does not include the warming of the upper layers of the oceans. Most of the additional heat content of the earth has gone into the heating of the oceans. And much of the addition has gone into melting of glacial and sea ice.

        3. ralphdraw3 says:

          I adoreDr. mJudith Curry

          ” To claim global warming stopped in 1998 overlooks one simple physical reality – the land and atmosphere are just a small fraction of the Earth’s climate (albeit the part we inhabit). The entire planet is accumulating heat due to an energy imbalance. The atmosphere is warming. Oceans are accumulating energy. Land absorbs energy and ice absorbs heat to melt. To get the full picture on global warming, you need to view the Earth’s entire heat content.

          This analysis is performed in An observationally based energy balance for the Earth since 1950 (Murphy 2009) which adds up heat content from the ocean, atmosphere, land and ice. To calculate the Earth’s total heat content, the authors used data of ocean heat content from the upper 700 metres. They included heat content from deeper waters down to 3000 metres depth. They computed atmospheric heat content using the surface temperature record and the heat capacity of the troposphere. Land and ice heat content (the energy required to melt ice) were also included.”

        4. Bill Steffen says:

          Nice cut-and-paste from the climate profiteers at skepticalscience: http://www.skepticalscience.com/print.php?r=38

          GLOBAL TEMPERATURE has been flat – no increase since 2002. Check the graph, Ralph: http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs_v3/Fig.C.gif

        5. Bill Steffen says:

          From Dr. Judith Curry regarding Professor Lennart Bengtsson:

          “I regard this as a very interesting and significant event, that runs counter to the near universal trend in academic circles to attempt to ignore and marginalize organizations and individuals that are skeptical of UNFCCC/IPCC global warming science, impacts, and/or solutions.

          I don’t disagree with anything LB has said here, I applaud his speaking out in this way. I haven’t personally made up my mind about the GWPF; I will be following closely to see how this plays out.

          LB’s most significant statements, IMO, which I wholeheartedly endorse:

          “I believe it is important to express different views in an area that is potentially so important and complex and still insufficiently known as climate change.”

    2. ron says:

      Bill has a serious obsession about ice.

      1. fixxxer says:

        No bill does what his bosses tell him. Its called ratings.

        1. Bill Steffen says:

          The bosses don’t dictate content on the blog. Ratings are a good thing.

    3. GunLakeDeb says:

      You guys!! This is seriously WEIRD for us to have snow and ice still hanging around (like I predicted…LOL!) past Memorial Day!!!!! If this was December and it was 80 – it would be splashed all over, too (only nobody would be griping about it)

      And I think the picture of the Brrrrmaids is cute! I’ll bet they didn’t pose for very long!!

      1. Michael g (se GR) says:

        Exactly. The fact that it’s 80* isn’t news, it’s normal. People laying on the beach in michigan on Memorial Day with ice floating in the background is news.

        1. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

          And while it may not be the first time that there has been ice in Lake Superior this late (as this may very will have happened several times in the 1870-1880′s) it still is none the less rather rare.
          SlimJim

      2. Brian(Grandville) says:

        +1

    4. Brad (Van Buren) says:

      It’s Bill’s Blog and he CAN say whatever he wants…that being said, I too am tired of hearing about ice on Lake Superior, the Hudson Bay being frozen over, and anything cold in general. It’s part of the reason I haven’t been here much. I won’t stay gone forever, but I’m not interested in Lake Superior, or cold weather talk in late May. I don’t care if Lake Superior has 5% ice cover in the middle of August, it’s been a brutal winter and I don’t want to think about it anymore. I’ll finish this post the way I started it, It’s Bill’s Blog and he CAN say anything he wants. :)

      1. Bill Steffen says:

        Sorry – no “adjusted” temperatures – to make the past look cooler and the present warmer by selective choosing weather stations that fit a pre-conceived conclusion. http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/01/19/just-hit-the-noaa-motherlode/

        Unadjusted data is no friend to the climate profiteer: http://stevengoddard.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/screenhunter_182-may-27-20-57.gif

        Even your “adjusted” temperature graph has temperatures up only 1 degree…hardly worth forcing the poor and those on fixed income to pay “skytocketing” utility rates or force them to use carcinogen-filled light bulbs.

  3. DarrenSVRstm ( Cedar S ) says:

    Okay why is it that there are 5 ” see text ” for today’s SPC outlooks and we can’t come within 300 miles of one…Really…!

    http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/outlook/day1otlk.html

  4. DarrenSVRstm ( Cedar S ) says:

    That is a great Memorial Day pic floating on the ice – cube / burg , I kinda feel bad for those who still have ice around but it looks like they made the best of it. I guess one would not have to set up a slalom course when you go water skiing. :)

  5. Travis (Oakland County) says:

    After a slightly warmer than average April, May is turning into a warm month.

    Currently +2.1 above average and climbing. Today could be my 7th 80+ degree day of the month.

    And if the CPC and WXYZ is to be believed, it looks like June starts mild as well.

    Latest Lk Michigan temps now running very close to average.

    http://coastwatch.glerl.noaa.gov/statistic/gif/avgtemps-m_1992-2013.gif

    Had a nice storm blow through overnight! Close to 7″ of rain now for the month!

    1. Pog says:

      Ok Travis….now, for those who deal in statistics we know that statistics can be/are manipulated in many different ways. With this being said, and you seem like a nice guy, how many days were below average in May? I have a feeling (I did not look) but there were far more days below average than above. Also, is this the average or the median? What I am saying, is that if we throw the extremes out we will be closer to reality and for this month its hard to believe we are +2.1 (Flint anyways) as we were well below from Tuesday through Friday. Just an example of skewing the numbers.

      1. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

        At the Flint station there have been so far 12 days below average one day at average and 13 days above average. That still dose not explain why Flint has been running warmer then even Detroit to the south and Saginaw to the north.
        SlimJim

    2. Bill Steffen says:

      The “slightly warmer than average April” that Travis refers to is only for Flint. Every weather station in SW Michigan was cooler than average in April and so was Detroit. Through Monday, May is still cooler than average for every reporting station in West Michigan except Battle Creek (which is 0.4° warmer than average). Lansing and Jackson are still cooler than average for May (though that will probably reverse to very slightly positive – if that happens, it’ll be the first positive month for those stations since last October! – and it will be barely positive). Travis can interpret the link anyway he wants, but look at the mid-Lake Michigan buoy: http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=45007 The water temperature this AM is 37° – I’m willing to bet it has NEVER been that cold on any May 27th…and Lake Superior still has floating ice in the last week of May!

      1. Travis (Oakland County) says:

        Wrong. Saginaw was +0.5 for April as well.

        Detroit was slightly negative.

        1. Bill Steffen says:

          Last I checked, Saginaw is not in SW Michigan.

      2. Mark (East Lansing) says:

        “Every weather station in SW Michigan was cooler than average in April”

        Saginaw is not in SW Michigan.

        1. Travis (Oakland County) says:

          The “slightly warmer than average April” that Travis refers to is only for Flint.

          Wrong it also applied to Saginaw

        2. Mark (East Lansing) says:

          Your original post said nothing about Saginaw. You only referenced Flint.

      3. H&L says:

        Wow Bill touchy subject…it’s like you’re angry that May might be above average. WHY? Don’t worries I don’t think one month just above average will bring out the global warming crowd. Some of us just like warm weather you know the kind where you can go outside and swim?

        Also I would be willing to bet that it has been colder in the past. Wasn’t there a time when Lake Michigan was all ice? I would also guess that in 1816 the water was colder than it is now. I would think a good scientist like you wouldn’t make a crazy claim like NEVER has Lake Michigan been this cold.

        1. ron says:

          Bill has this strange obsession with ice. Stories of fire and drought nope, but dozens of posts about ice yes, …..very odd.

        2. Bill Steffen says:

          Just correcting the inaccurate impression that might be given by reading Travis’ post. 90% of my readers are in SW Michigan, When Travis says: “a slightly warmer than average April”, that would count for only Flint and Saginaw, while the whole rest of state was cooler than average. I’m certainly not “angry” that May might turn out close to average…many farmers are behind average and with the possibility of a slightly earlier frost, we need to get going.

          Here’s April temperature departure from average for April: http://mrcc.isws.illinois.edu/cliwatch/months/m04_14.tdev.png It was not a “…warmer than average April”.

          Ron…the snow and ice have been big weather stories in Michigan…that’s where my audience is…the rains this past week have gone along way to ease the Texas drought (see 30-day rainfall for the S. Plains here: http://www.hprcc.unl.edu/maps/current/index.php?action=update_daterange&daterange=30d) and wildfires in the U.S. this year and last year have been below average in number and acres burned. Look at fire statistics to date at this site: http://www.nifc.gov/fireInfo/nfn.htm Look at “National Fire News”. All the fires in CA were started by people…the vast majority of them were arson (+80% are being investigated as arson – the others are probably negligence) and not related to CO2 in the atmosphere.

        3. Rad (Jenison/Hudsonville) says:

          Bill, If 90% of your viewers are from SW MI. Why keep Posting about Ice in the UP ?

        4. Travis (Oakland County) says:

          Everyone knows I’m referencing Flint on here. My name gives my location as well.

        5. Bill Steffen says:

          Because that interests my readers! I don’t just write about what the elitist climate profiteers want to hype…I give you actual data and statistics. Watching the mainstream media – hyping every weather “event” – you would not get the impression that the number of wildfires and the number of acres burned has been BELOW average for the last 3 years…you would not get the impression that the number and overall strength of hurricanes – globally – has been decreasing since 2005…you would not get the impression that global sea ice was at an ABOVE AVERAGE extent…you would not know that the number of strong tornadoes (EF3 to EF5) has slightly decreased since the 1970s. Michigan had 12 F3 to F5 tornadoes from 1950 to 1977…we have not had a single EF3 to EF5 tornado since 1977 in Michigan. NBC (and MSNBC and the Weather Channel) has been owned by GE, the biggest corporate lobbyist in the world and now Concast – waiting for the government to give the Time-Warner merger the OK and why that might drive the nature of coverage of weather and climate.

        6. Robert(Plainwell) says:

          Bill, I love the Lake Superior ice updates.

      4. Sandy(Hudsonville) says:

        Bill – I love hearing about the weather in the UP. You do a great job! I also love to hear about your travels & family. The fact that there is still ice on Lk. Superior this late is very interesting. Thanks for sharing the photos too.

  6. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

    As ever one knows we had a very pleasant weekend weather wise. Warm temps and lots of sunshine. Here is the monthly temps above or below average so far for May 2014 at several stations in Michigan.

    Grand Rapids -0.4°
    Lansing -0.1°
    Toledo 0.0°
    Detroit +1.3
    Flint +2.1
    Saginaw +0.9°
    Gaylord -.05°
    Alpena -0.7°
    Traverse City +0.4°
    Marquette -0.8°
    Houghton -1.1°
    Soo -0.7°

    As you can see most of the Michigan (and Toledo,OH) are running just below average for May but for some reason Flint continues to run almost one degree warmer then other stations.
    SlimJim

    1. Travis (Oakland County) says:

      Depends where you are.

      All three SE Michigan locations firmly above average.

      With the forecasted temps upcoming, I would think most, if not all, will end above average for May.

      1. Mark (East Lansing) says:

        I agree that most should be above average by month’s end. Six consecutive months of below average temps. All streaks must come to an end.

    2. DF (SE Mich) says:

      Thanks for the update Slim, certainly a welcomed turnaround.

    3. GunLakeDeb says:

      There’s what appears to be, a weather station set up alongside US-131 on a bridge, just about at the Kent/Allegan county line. It’s on the downwind side of all the pavement, and perched over a railroad track. I’ve always laughed at it, because I suspect it reads a tad HIGH??? (Heat from the pavement and tracks, vehicle exhaust) – but I never could figure out who is using its data. Must be the one that Flint is reading from ;-)

  7. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

    As for lake Michigan water temps here is a little better view of the lakes water temps.

    http://www.coastwatch.msu.edu/twomichigans.html

    SlimJim

    1. Travis (Oakland County) says:

      Wow, I’m seeing some 60 degree water temps by Grand Haven already. Nice!

      1. Bill Steffen says:

        That’s Grand River water. The Grand River has been running about double average flow and west winds will hold much of that relatively warmer water near the shore. Winds were also light yesterday (here’s the wind record for yesterday at the Muskegon GLERL station: http://www.glerl.noaa.gov/metdata/mkg/2014/20140526.05t.txt). Light winds mean less mixing and water in a very shallow layer at the surface can be heated by the sun. The first windy day (or the first day with an east wind) will cause cooler water to come to the surface.

        1. Travis (Oakland County) says:

          Temps are also 59.5 at Saugatuck and above 58 at Holland.

          So it’s not just Grand Haven.

        2. Mark (East Lansing) says:

          Maybe the prevailing north/northwest wind over the past few days has blown the warmer water to the south of the lake?

        3. H&L says:

          Bill Travis is right 55-60 from Muskegon to South Haven.

        4. Kevin(Rockford) says:

          The current usually goes to the south

        5. Bill Steffen says:

          You’re looking at temps. modified by warmer river water (which is running about double average flow right now). We’ve also had relatively light onshore winds, which would keep a very shallow relatively warm layer at the Michigan shore. If you take the lake as a whole (entire like, significant depth), this may be the coldest the lake has ever been. http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=45007

    2. DF (SE Mich) says:

      Average surface temp for Lake Michigan:
      http://coastwatch.glerl.noaa.gov/statistic/gif/avgtemps-m_1992-2013.gif

      Why we’re arguing about the top 1″ of water I have no idea ;)

  8. DarrenSVRstm ( Cedar S ) says:

    Travis , seriously you just do this because people react to your posts , just as I am attm. If you are going to say April finished slightly above average you should qualify your statement at the very least with a location. Most of us on the blog do not live in east Mi nor does Bill work / reference weather trends for that area in general because that would not apply to the bulk of his listening audience. Post your warm bias / liking but support them with facts ( as you often do ) however all to often it really seems you just want to bat the bee – hive , so to speak . For most of us on this blog temps have been below normal since last year , including April and this month isn’t over yet , so in summary we have been below normal since 2013 . You do remember the winter we all just endured , yes…? By all means jump on the warm train when and if we get there , as I hope we do…! :)

    1. H&L says:

      Darren I agree with what you are saying but 5 Blog entries about Ice on Lake Superior….come on i think that’s batting the bee in the other direction.

      1. DarrenSVRstm ( Cedar S ) says:

        Hmmm…..maybe.

      2. Kevin(Rockford) says:

        How often is there that much ice on Superior on Memorial Day? Pretty historic

        1. DF (SE Mich) says:

          Exactly.

        2. Eileen (Hesperia) says:

          We were in the UP and Bill posted 2 pics I sent him of the ice still on Lake Superior. It was amazing to see and I agree Kevin, it’s pretty historic, at least in my life time.

        3. Steve (N. Moline) says:

          Right! The 27th of May and we still have ice on the great lakes. I don’t see that as cold bias.

        4. bluegill says:

          I’m in Hungary at the moment and the pics of ice on Lake Superior have been quite the hit here. I’ve even heard from two friends telling me Bill’s pics have been circulating in the Netherlands. Posting about something that pretty much never happens seems appropriate. Posting about average weather seems a bit boring and I doubt would be read in Europe.

        5. DarrenSVRstm ( Cedar S ) says:

          Bluegill thanks for posting something that makes complete sense to most , and I would say a large majority. I’ve mentioned the same thing before as certain folks would like to split hairs about 0.5 this and 0.3 that when we are taking about departure from normals. I’m not sure how one gets excited to post about temps nearly above or below average when they don’t follow some sort of predicated trend , it’s just not news………oh my as I can’t think of anything more boring!! Yawnnnnn…..

  9. mr. negative says:

    Brrrrrmaids…clever

  10. DarrenSVRstm ( Cedar S ) says:

    This map shows a good outline of where TSM will typically occur in southwest – lower … The usual suspects always prevail. :(

    http://graphical.weather.gov/sectors/centgrtlakes.php?element=MaxT

    1. DarrenSVRstm ( Cedar S ) says:

      Sorry..yu then need to click on weather at 2:00 pm .

  11. DF (SE Mich) says:

    Listen, I just finalized my purchase of a house in GR over the holiday so I’m back to the west side come July. Travis will be our only connection to the east…

    1. Mark (East Lansing) says:

      Congrats on the new digs!

      1. DF (SE Mich) says:

        Thanks.

      2. DarrenSVRstm ( Cedar S ) says:

        Enjoy yr new pad.. !

    2. Kevin(Rockford) says:

      So does that mean sailing comes to W. Mi too? Holland has a decent number on Wed nights.

      1. DF (SE Mich) says:

        My family boat has been on dry land in Muskegon for going on four years now. Hopefully I’ll get it back in next summer, I think it’ll remain there. I can walk/bike to Grand Rapids Yacht Club… I still thinking about that one for this summer.

        1. DF (SE Mich) says:

          … so yes to answer your question :)

    3. John (Norton Shores) says:

      Congrats, now you’ll get to enjoy our lake effect snow we get in the winter, and storms in summer! :)

    4. Rad (Jenison/Hudsonville) says:

      Welcome to The West Side !

      1. DF (SE Mich) says:

        Only 9 years completely removed. Thanks :)

  12. From the NWS:

    A FRONTAL SYSTEM WILL BE DROPPING THROUGH THE AREA TODAY AND INTO
    TONIGHT. THIS FEATURE WILL BRING THE POTENTIAL OF SOME SHOWERS AND
    STORMS…ESPECIALLY AREAS EAST OF U.S.-131. SEVERE WEATHER IS NOT
    EXPECTED…HOWEVER SOME LOCALLY HEAVY DOWNPOURS WILL BE POSSIBLE.
    THE THREAT OF RAIN WILL GRADUALLY DIMINISH FROM NORTH TO SOUTH
    TONIGHT AND INTO WEDNESDAY MORNING.

  13. Travis (Oakland County) says:

    Another nice, warm weekend upcoming. Per NWS Detroit:

    “A conservative forecast for this weekend is highs in the lower to middle 80s both Saturday and Sunday with dry and sunny conditions.”

    1. Bill Steffen says:

      So far, this has been a top-five coldest year ever for much of Michigan…the law of averages would suggest at some point in time, we’d flip to above average temps., even if it’s (monthly) only slightly warmer than average.

      1. Travis (Oakland County) says:

        Don’t sound too excited now LOL

        It’s been a great spring for me! Even with all the rain.

  14. DarrenSVRstm ( Cedar S ) says:

    What is that I see….shhh I’m hunting storms. Few storms starting to creep across the storm saw..be very very quite so you can make it across while the storm saw is sleeping. Actually these storms should have some elevated instability so some will see thunder showers today…! :)

    1. Decent cell up near Mount Pleasant right now. Probably some small hail with that one.

      1. steven (Derby Lake) says:

        Yea looks like that one blew up right over the Remus area.

        1. steven (Derby Lake) says:

          Any chance the ones departing Milwaukee will make it?

        2. If they do make it I see more in the way of just showers rather than storms, but we shall see what they do in the next half hour to an hour

        3. steven (Derby Lake) says:

          Looks like another starting to form between Ionia and Lowell.

        4. DarrenSVRstm ( Cedar S ) says:

          They will be convective , but east of 131 or south-east will yield the best opportunity for thunder -showers.. Cold front pushin through…

        5. steven (Derby Lake) says:

          It rained here a bit late last night but we need a good soaker.

  15. Travis (Oakland County) says:

    Nice stat from Tom Skilling today. Chicago hit 90 degrees again yesterday.

    “A survey of Chicago’s Midway Airport weather records dating back to 1928, reveals only 18 of the past 86 years have managed two 90s by May 26.”

    1. DarrenSVRstm ( Cedar S ) says:

      Man you are really reaching aren’t ya….. Just a shade under 20% of the time does this happen and you complain about bills ice reference when we have 0 record of this ” Ever ” happening . Cake and eat it tooo….one of those eh. Lol

      1. DF (SE Mich) says:

        LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

    2. Mark (East Lansing) says:

      Following Chicago’s fifth coldest winter in 143 years, and it’s coldest in 35 years.

      http://blog.chicagoweathercenter.com/2014/05/02/ask-tom-chicagos-coldest-winterspring-combos/

    3. Bill Steffen says:

      Warmest so far this May at Flint: 88° – warmest last year in May at Flint: 89°, warmest in 2012 in May at Flint: 95° – warmest in 2011 in May at Flint: 92°

    4. Dan says:

      It’s the spin of his comments. Travis only wants to report what is warm. It doesn’t seem to matter to him about percentages or where he takes his data from. Saginaw is not in SW Michigan.
      Then, when he gets challenged, he doesn’t ever reply.
      One of two conclusions here. Either Travis is only looking to rile people up with his comments or he really doesn’t have the facts. You decide!

      1. steven (Derby Lake) says:

        He stirs the pot and leaves for a couple hours or the whole day and then comes back and stirs it again.

        1. Kevin(Rockford) says:

          when its warm

      2. Travis (Oakland County) says:

        Tom Skilling’s facts, not mine.

        It is funny to see the same people always respond though.

        1. DarrenSVRstm ( Cedar S ) says:

          And now you have verified my second suspicion …..stir away! Same people…lol …,true if you mean most of the blog!

        2. Dan says:

          Travis, who would those “same people” be? The way I see it there were over 10 posters to your comments. I have been around the blog for longer than 5 years. I see some other people responding here. Can you define same people please?
          Also, I’m pretty sure Tom Skiing doesn’t continually use Flint’s numbers, maybe he does but I’m thinking since he does the weather for Chicago he may not. Also, you will have to post exactly what he said. It sounded like your comments in the post. Could you clarify please?

      3. Rodey (Rockford) says:

        Just like rocky and his cold weather rants but yet you don’t call him out. Why is that?

        1. Dan (Byron Center) says:

          This cannot be a serious question. Please read the context of the comments! I’LL. explain my posts when you do a little research Rodey. All I ever see you post is a contradictory message to what Rocky posts
          Not even your own words.

  16. DarrenSVRstm ( Cedar S ) says:

    Thunderstorm outlook for today , many in the 40% baby blue…

    http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/exper/enhtstm/

  17. GunLakeDeb says:

    By the way – I had a nice little thunderstorm last night that dropped 1/2″ of rain – it just popped up right around 11 PM.

    1. DarrenSVRstm ( Cedar S ) says:

      I’m jealous…. :)

  18. Grand Rapids officially has a perimeter around the city with rain all around but here we sit in the donut hole lol. I sure hope something develops soon, otherwise its no rain till next week.

    1. steven (Derby Lake) says:

      Maybe all the traffic on the roads and highways create a vortex. Doubt it, but its a thought I guess lol

  19. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    Travis is a global warming nut case!

    1. steven (Derby Lake) says:

      + infinite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    2. Rodey (Rockford) says:

      Rocky is a mini ice age nut case.

  20. Jeremy (Three Rivers) says:

    Nice little storm running along the Indiana border, heading my way. I hear some thunder. Large thunderhead towering into the sky.

  21. steven (Derby Lake) says:

    2 inches of rain in the Remus-Wiedman area west of Mount Pleasant.

    The National Weather Service in Grand Rapids has issued a

    * Flood Advisory for… Isabella County in central Michigan…

    * until 800 PM EDT

    * at 223 PM EDT…National Weather Service Doppler radar indicated thunderstorms with heavy rainfall across the advisory area. Doppler radar estimated 2 inches of rainfall over the last couple hours mainly between Remus and Weidman with additional thunderstorms moving into the area.

    * Runoff from this excessive rainfall will cause minor flooding to occur…especially along small streams and near low water crossings. Some locations that will experience minor flooding include…Mount Pleasant…Rosebush…Weidman…Broomfield Center…Coe…Deerfield Center…Herrick…Rolland Center… Sherman City…Vernon Center…wise and Woods.

    Precautionary/preparedness actions…

    Excessive runoff from this storm will cause minor flooding of small creeks and streams…highways and underpasses. Additionally… country roads and farmlands along the banks of creeks and streams and other low lying areas are subject to minor flooding.

    1. Grr I need this rain lol not all 2 inches but 0.25″ will do lol

      1. steven (Derby Lake) says:

        Got one just a few miles north of here that show some development and picked up intensity. Looks like its just going to miss though

        1. Go chase I down! Lol

        2. steven (Derby Lake) says:

          nah I’m good lol Maybe if it was a tornado warning. Looks like on the radar though its stalled out over the Remus area though.

        3. steven (Derby Lake) says:

          Still going to miss here looks like, but I can here some thunder.

  22. Marti B. (SE Grand Rapids) says:

    “Radar O’Reilly” says…… ‘I don’t think there will be much rain for the Grand Rapids, MI area….’ ;)

  23. Travis (Oakland County) says:

    Third 80+ degree day in a row here for Flint.

    Lots of storm popping up. Round #3 coming soon for me.

    1. Mark (East Lansing) says:

      I wish one or two would hit my area. Some have come very close, but the sun is still shining here. A bit humid too.

      1. Ansel says:

        Sure has been a warm (and welcomed stretch). Hopefully, this summer doesn’t end up a scorcher, but I wouldn’t be surprised as that seems to be the trend globally.

        1. Mark (East Lansing) says:

          I wouldn’t be surprised if we get a prolonged warm spell either. It will help to average out the past six months of cool weather.

        2. Brian (Grandville) says:

          What seems to be the trend globally?

        3. fixxxer says:

          Sadly i dont expect the warm weather to last.

    2. Rocky (Rockford) says:

      Global warming nut case!

      1. Rodey (Rockford) says:

        Mini ice age nut case.

  24. steven (Derby Lake) says:

    That’s a good intense storm over Howard City. Might be some small hail in it.

  25. Jacob G. says:

    So as we end meteorological spring all reporting stations in MI will be below average. You can thank March and record Great lakes ice for that as temps were well below normal state wide. While you can look at daily and sometimes monthly temps you have to look at the overall pattern. For now we are still in a cooler than average overall pattern. The onsets of El Nino tend to have warm periods in May and June with upper level highs stacked on top of cut off lows to the south. You can look at 2009 as the last El Nino pattern. June looks average to maybe slightly above average to me with possible 90 degree day and July and August to be below average and then Sept it warms up again. Precip may become scarce to get as the summer goes forward. I think June is when we see the most storms with ring of fire/MCS setups and we can still have a strong cold front later in the season. Great thing about weather it is never average and will constantly try to balance things out, there is so much at play that can drive it. Have a good one…

    http://www.crh.noaa.gov/grr/climate/f6/data/?site=grr&year=2009&month=5
    http://www.crh.noaa.gov/grr/climate/f6/data/?site=grr&year=2009&month=6

    1. DarrenSVRstm ( Cedar S ) says:

      I hope we do see a good amount of storms in June , as I’m kinda thinking we are 20-30 days behind so to speak although I know that doesn’t exactly translate. ( horseshoes and hand – grenades )

  26. Dan says:

    Rocky: Rodey’s here! NEWS FLASH! You should go to another blog to post a comment and see if he will follow you there and use your words.

    1. Rodey (Rockford) says:

      Dan Dan Rockys puppet man speaks. Yup I’ll follow and comment on the little troll, no problem at all. Kind of like you calling out Travis for his warm weather posts. Thanks for listening and paying attention Dan Dan rockys puppet man. I love it. Fantastic.

      1. steven (Derby Lake) says:

        That would make you a troll Rodey. You must have a man crush on him.

        1. Rodey (Rockford) says:

          Yup I’ll troll the troll. No problem with that at all. As far as the man crush, I’ll leave that to you and Dan Dan Rockys puppet man. Thanks for listening and commenting as useless as it was. I love it. Fantastic.

        2. steven (Derby Lake) says:

          When you troll a troll it just goes to show you have no life. As for Dan I have no association with him on here therefore that part of your comment is totally useless.

      2. Dan (Byron Center) says:

        Hook, line and sinker! Rodey please do your research on my comments. That may be too much to ask!

    2. Rocky (Rockford) says:

      + 100 GAZILLION!

  27. INDY says:

    Hey Bill I am Happy Your All Good !! U are Always Welcome To Thee YARDofBRICKS We Will Get U Out Here Soon !!! Can’t Wait To Have Lunch With U Soon!!! Get Them Chicken Dinners Going!! Feels Like Summer Outside Love It!! INDYY!!

  28. Well the rain on Lake Michigan has dried up. Looks like no rain for me once again. Have to wait till Monday now but the classic GR bubble will likely vear it around us again

  29. Jeff (Portland) says:

    Nice shower just ending here. Rained at a moderate clip for about 15 minutes ..

  30. SBPortage002 says:

    Nice storm just came through Kalamazoo/Portage once again (second one in less than 24 hours). Moving on east but had some loud thunder here for a little bit.

    1. fixxxer says:

      I was just in texas township a few hours ago to.

  31. Well bloggers ill be in Cass County for the night. Hoping for a storm

    1. Bill Steffen says:

      I sure have…I grew up in Wilmette, Illinois – just north of Chicago on Lake Michigan. “Pneumonia fronts” are most common in May, when the air is warm and the lake is cold. I remember one day when it was sunny and 85 deg. at 2 pm on the beach in Wilmette. The wind was coming off the land from the southwest. You could see a fog bank approach from the NNE, coming right down the lake. All of a sudden, the wind shifted and started coming off the lake from the NNE. The fog rolled in and the temperature dropped a quick 20 degrees…reachin 49 deg. four hours later. Sometimes the shallow surface front is well ahead of the main front…I’ve see the frontal thunderstorms arrive several hours after the wind shift off the lake.

      1. steven (Derby Lake) says:

        Is it similar to the fog bank up by Frankfort(I think that’s where it was)???

  32. Jack says:

    “Northern Lights” Photo of The Day HERE::: http://www.softservenews.com/photos/large/463788_890317390097_1450120887_o.jpg. Awesome !!!! Stay CUEDD ;-)

    1. GunLakeDeb says:

      Nice meteor, too!!! :-)

  33. Jack says:

    On May 27 in Southwest Lower Michigan…

    5/27/1907
    Wet snowflakes fall at Grand Rapids and Muskegon. It is the latest snow on record at Grand Rapids.
    5/27/1912
    A tornado destroys barns and kills livestock near East Leroy in Calhoun County.
    5/27/1960
    Several farm buildings were damaged or destroyed by a tornado four miles east of Ionia.
    5/27/1973
    A tornado destroyed a barn and silo near Saranac in Ionia County. Another tornado did minor damage near Gun Lake in Barry County….Remember This Gun Lake Deb ?? Stay CUEDD…… ;-)

    1. GunLakeDeb says:

      Our previous neighbor said there were willow trees at both his, and our house, that were blown over by a tornado…. so maybe that’s when it happened??

  34. INDY says:

    Cold Front Is Over Thee YARDofBRICKS Ahhhh Nice Cool Sleeping Night!! INDYY!!

  35. Brian (Grandville) says:

    Everything trying to cross the widest part of the lake is drying up. Gonna need some rain for some of us around here soon. Its really hard to get excited about storms in WI any more.

    1. steven (Derby Lake) says:

      I don’t think its going to until sunday now it looks like and that might be a long shot. Need some rain to wash the pollen down.

      1. dereks says:

        We got some rain in Vestaburg today.

  36. Well about an hour ago I thought rain was going to maybe actually move in to my house in BC. Now it’s all drying up on the lake. I guess us getting storms from Wisconsin will be hard to come by this year. It looks like the I-94 corridor will get good rain, but why is it that Grand Rapids has all the rain dry up off shore? Is there something in place over the GR area othe than our bubble right now? Maybe a lake shadow?

  37. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    Keep the facts about the ice and cold coming! I love it!

    1. Rodey (Rockford) says:

      Keep the above average temps coming. Who knew. Imagine that. I love it. Fantastic. Thanks for listening.

    2. matt says:

      Warm weather soon fantastic i love it who knew

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