August 8th, 2014 at 12:14 pm by under Bill's Blog, Weather

Damage April 12 2014 Grant - pic. from Newaygo ES   A little perspective.  (So far)  The only hurricane force winds  (74 mph) that I have seen in Hawaii have been on top of Mauna Kea (a 13,796-foot mountain).  They may have reached hurricane speed (74 mph) at the Hawaiian Paradise Village.   Rainfall has been extreme in a few locations on the Big Island, with Kulani reporting 14.91″ of rain.  However, look at an average rainfall map of Hawaii.   Hawaii’s annual rainfall varies from 8″ to 404″.  Both elevation and the prevailing ENE wind are big factors in rainfall amounts.  Hilo, on the Big Island, has picked up 3.14″ of rain.  That’s a wet spot, with an average rainfall of 126.7″.  Honolulu has only had 1/3rd inch of rain and hour peak gusts mostly in the 30s at their airport so far (as of 1 pm local time).

The April 12, 2014 severe t-storms that moved from Muskegon Co. east across Mecosta, Newaygo and N. Kent Counties caused more damage, had stronger winds (+85 mph) knocked down more trees, had large hail and (so far) knocked out power to 6 times as many customers as Iselle has done in Hawaii…with nary a mention on the Nightly News or Drudge.  We get storms like that nearly every year here in Michigan.    Not to mention the EF1 tornado in Kent Co. on July 6 (2014), which caused 6 injuries.  More on the EF1 tornado in Kent Co. here.

61 Responses to “Perspective”

  1. fixxxer says:

    Hey rj wheres that cold weather?

    1. Travis (Oakland County) says:

      I haven’t had a below average day so far in August.

      Today should be my 9th 80+ day in a row. Longest 80+ degree streak in some time and looking to continue for several more days.

      What happened to the supposed cool down?

      1. Mark (East Lansing) says:

        Good question. CPC said cool this week. GR has been 80+ every day in August so far. The weather has been excellent.

        1. Cliff(KZOO) says:

          I am sitting at -1.6 for the month???
          As for Travis the average high is 81 still for you location in Flint/Oxford/Detroit???… So 80 degree days I know this year have been rare but should be common for you.
          As far as below average days how come you weren’t around last month? And 3 of the 7 Days have been right at average, You are a scorching 1.1 above. Another interesting fact of the day for you.
          Flint is having its 3rd coolest year on record?

      2. Bill Steffen says:

        Flint was 2° below average on Friday and they are only +0.8° for August 1-8. Manistee was -7.5° for July with low temperatures in the 40s for 15 of 31 mornings.

      3. Rocky (Rockford) says:

        fixxxer and Travis are both delusional and ignorant! Now that is one bad combination!

  2. Travis (Oakland County) says:

    Very impressive storm for Hawaii

    -Five stations on the windward side of the Big Island had received at least 10″ of rain in 24 hours as of 5 am HST Friday, according the NWS Hawaii rainfall summary:

    Hakalau: 10.70″
    Pua Akala: 10.19″
    Saddle Quarry: 11.39″
    Glenwood: 10.63″
    Kulani NWR: 11.19″

    -NWS Hawaii reporting roofs flying off and downed trees in Hawaiian Paradise Park, and at least 21,000 customers were without power early Friday morning.

    -Surf up to 15′

    1. GunLakeDeb says:

      I agree with Bill – we get far worse storms, and nobody says boo. The eastern shore of the Big Island gets phenomenal amounts of rain: the western side gets almost none. It’s kind of eerie to drive from Kona, where prickly-pear cactus grow because it’s so dry… over the top of the mountain; and once you crest the top, it becomes a dense tropical rain forest. And 15′ surf is nothing – when we were there, the surf was 25′ (they had to cancel a boogie-board contest because it was too rough) – and no storms were involved. Roofs flying off? I’d like to see the video, because I’ll bet they’re the thatched tiki-hut type of roof ;-)

  3. Sandi says:

    Our esteemed leader has decreed that all media report on the hurricanes to divert attention from immigration, irs, Israel, and once again getting into another war. (-;

  4. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    Great summer weahter and NO 90′s IN SIGHT! Nothing could be better!

    1. Mark (East Lansing) says:

      There have been 90s all over Michigan this summer, just not in your back yard.

      1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

        Officially GR has not had even one 90 degree day! Get your facts straight and face reality. No 90′s and very few hot and humid days this summer. July was well below average! Imagine that! Keep it coming baby!

        1. Mark (East Lansing) says:

          Thank you precisely agreeing with what I said.

        2. Cliff(KZOO) says:

          Don’t worry Mark, pretty sure your facts are straight. Clearly Rocky cant read what you stated.

      2. What Rocky is trying to say is no 90′s for Grand Rapids. I have made 90 once here in Byron Center and I am in Kent Co. so there have been places Rocky in Kent Co. that have reached 90 along with others. Holland did a couple times I think. Not sure the exact number

        1. Bill Steffen says:

          Indianapolis still hasn’t reached 90° and the warmest this summer in S. Ste Marie has been 83°

  5. hugh says:

    We could use some rain. The grass is beginning to wither. All-in-all, this summer is not just suffocating heat, I like it.

    1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

      We have had no suffocating heat and many, many days of below average daily temp averages! Who knew?

  6. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    Exactly people – no 90′s for GR! INCREDIBLE!

    1. MichiganWon says:

      You’re such an idiot Rocky. Please do us all a favor and leave this blog. What a desperate, lonely pathetic person you are. You say you’re retiring in a year…..act like it. Not like a 5 year old. Practice what you preach of everybody else, or get off the blog.

      1. Tom says:

        Don’t worry, Rocky will be back in school soon so we will only have to endure his posts at night!!!

        1. matt says:

          Rocky is a tad bit upset. His mom hid his zebra cakes and he will soon be forced to look for attention on school playground with lies about his summer vacation and his soon to be ski trips.

      2. Rocky (Rockford) says:

        More name calling I see. Very mature! Get a grip!

        1. matt says:

          Oh thats right you never name call. You must still be upset that you cant find your zebra cakes you moocher

      3. fixxxer says:

        +1 michigan.

  7. DarrenSVRstm ( Cedar S ) says:

    Happy Friday to all the bloggers..! I hope everyone is enjoying the weather we have been having , as I most definitely have been . Pleasant , warm days and windows open in the evening , so so nice. I’m starting to think these meteor showers are a bit like our thunder – storms in Mi . Lol. ( one element always seems to be missing or getting in the way ) . I will take a peak again tonight since I enjoy the stars anyways.

    1. GunLakeDeb says:

      Thanks for reminding me to watch the sky tonight, Darren!

  8. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

    Mark (East Lansing) says:
    August 8, 2014 at 2:09 pm
    There have been 90s all over Michigan this summer, just not in your back yard.

    Well Mark here is the current list of 90° as reported at all of the major weather stations here in Michigan and the 90° have been very few so far

    Lansing 0
    Muskegon 0
    Battle Creek 0
    Jackson 0
    Holland 1 (90° on July 1st)
    Southeast Michigan
    Detroit 2
    Flint 1
    Saginaw 1
    Northern Lower
    Alpena 0
    Gaylord 0
    Houghton Lake 0
    Soo 0 (the warmest all summer so far 83°)
    Traverse City 2
    Upper Michigan
    Marquette 0
    Houghton 0

    1. Cliff(KZOO) says:

      To add to this look at Indiana as well, lots of location there have not hit 90 yet. Indianapolis is have its coldest year on record so far. UNREAL!!!!

      1. fixxxer says:

        Not something to be proud of. Hopefully we dont have another brutal winter.

        1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

          Count on it! Mark it down AND GET USED TO IT!

    2. Mark (East Lansing) says:

      Thanks Slim. I knew there had been some 90-degree readings this summer. Like I said before, you are our resident almanac and I appreciate what you provide to Bill’s Blog.

      1. Rad (Jenison/Hudsonville) says:


    3. DarrenSVRstm ( Cedar S ) says:

      Pretty amazing…! Thanks for the update Slim.

  9. Grady Foster says:

    Yes, but your storms are not caused by global warming, uh, I mean, climate change.

  10. Nathan (Forest Hills) says:

    But hurricanes last longer and can dump 12 plus inches of rain

  11. Jack says:

    While the skies light up several time a year by other meteor showers , the Perseids are widely sought after by astronomers and stargazers alike. This is because at its peak, one can view 60 to a 100 meteors in an hour from a dark place. Happy GAZING !!

    1. fixxxer says:

      You just proved your a moron. Hows those upper 80s feeling?

      1. matt says:

        Looking good eighties all weekend tell us some lies about your summer casino trips moocher

      2. Rocky (Rockford) says:

        More name calling? Very brilliant commentary! Your ignorance shows no limits! Who knew?

  12. Brian(Grandville) says:

    Ok, that’s it. I’m done with the Tigers until they decide to figure it out! Not bad out right now.

    1. Mark (East Lansing) says:

      Back to back jacks!

  13. Going fishing at sunrise on Lake Michigan tomorrow! Can’t wait. I’ve only fished the big lake a couple times

    1. Brian(Grandville) says:

      What are you going for Kyle?

      1. Perch mainly. We are going offshore South Haven on our boat. We might try for other stuff although I am not sure what all the big lake has

        1. I heard kings and steelhead are hot right now

        2. Brian(Grandville) says:

          There is nothing better than fresh salmon out of the lake. I wont even eat frozen fish anymore, after eating the fresh ones.

        3. Yes fresh salmon is great. I won’t eat frozen either!

        4. Jack says:



          8/8   Nice kings and steelhead doing excellent in 110 – 140. foot of water straightout or south of pier, most being caught in 40 to 90 foot down.  nice size. mostly meat rigs and spin doctors and  flies white blues and green. 


          8/8 Perch limits – on fire -  20 to 25 foot of water in front of the first dune. 6 miles north of the channel at glenn in 25 foot of water.


    2. fixxxer says:

      Watch out for ebola! Right woodtv? ;)

      1. Michael g (se GR) says:

        Ebola IS hilarious! Way to go fix!

        1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

          Lets face it – fixxxer is a worthless human being!

    3. Sandy (Hudsonville) says:

      Go for the salmon. Fresh salmon on the grill is great! Have a great time.

  14. PB says:

    No offense to Bill, but aren’t you comparing apples and oranges there?

  15. Cort S. says:

    Here are the set of maneuvers that the Rosetta spacecraft will go through to orbit Comet 67P:

    1. Jack says:

      ” LIKE”…. Thanks CORT!!

  16. Imthemom (just n holland) says:

    Just got home after seeing Into The Storm. It made Twister look like Shakespeare.

  17. GunLakeDeb says:

    Re the “rare” hurricane in Hawaii – Hubby was relating being on Oahu during a “storm” back in the ’70′s. Hawaii normally gets cyclones; so this “storm” that produced torrential rains/widespread flooding/wind damage was just a “storm” because the rotation was counter-clockwise (like a hurricane). The media downplayed the whole thing, because Hawaii is PARADISE – they don’t want the tourists thinking there’s anything but glorious sunshine 365 days a year ;-)

    Sort of like Las Vegas downplaying their seismicity. Lake Tahoe (also seismic) has tsunami evacuation instructions in their phonebook. Don’t say anything that will keep the tourists away!!!

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