Monday Rain

August 11th, 2014 at 7:21 pm by under Bill's Blog, Weather

  Here’s links…rainfall this morning as of 8 am:  0.92″ Fennville, 0.51″ Grand Haven, 0.42″ S. Haven, 0.41″ Benton Harbor.  Rainfall as of 5 pm:  0.01″ Grand Rapids, 0.47″ Muskegon, 0.84″ Holland (Regional Arpt.), 0.03″ Kalamazoo, 0.02″ Battle Creek.  Showers along the lakeshore and along and south of I-94 will spread north across the area.  So everyone will see at least a little rain.  While you may see a thunderstorm, severe weather is unlikely.  Other rainfall totals:  5.38″ Lexington KY, 4.02″ Charleston SC, 2.51″ Savannah GA, 1.28″ Chicago, 1.26″ Kenosha WI.  The remains of Hurricane Bertha providing a stormy, wet and rainy day in NW Europe.   Here’s an early winter forecast from WeatherBell.  I’m leaning toward a little cooler than average, not as cold as last year from Jan. – Mar.  and at this point, I’d go a little above average snowfall in the lake-effect belts and near average as you head east and northeast of G.R. with more snow in Nov. since ’08.  Still early…still summer.

Here’s GRR looping radar. Links: Grand Rapids radar, Northern Indiana radar, Chicago radar, Detroit radar and Milwaukee radar. Here’s regional radar, the College of DuPage Radar Map (pick any radar in the U.S.), College of DuPage Grand Rapids radar, the West Michigan Lightning Tracker, National Lightning Tracker, the local warning/advisory map and the National warning/watch/advisory map, and a surface weather map. You can checkout the late.  st Grand Rapids NWS discussion, the Northern Indiana NWS discussion (includes the Michigan Counties that border Indiana), the discussion for Northern Lower Michigan, and Eastern Lower Michigan. Check out Storm Total Precipitation (until they reset it). Here’s the Spyglass Condos Weather Station the S. Haven GLERL station, the Muskegon GLERL station, the Grand Haven Steelheaders webcam and weather station, and the weather station at Holland State Park. Check out the Maranatha Webcam at Lake Michigan and links to webcams. Here’s the infrared satellite loop (night) and the visible satellite loop (daytime), Lake Michigan water temperatures (summer). Here’s recent storm reports from SW Michigan, Northern Michigan, NE Illinois, SE. Wisconsin, Upper Michigan and E. Michigan. Check out the wind and wave height at the South Mid-Lake Michigan Buoy (Apr. to Nov. only), the North Mid-Lake Michigan Buoy (Apr. to Nov. only), the buoy at Big Sable Point near Ludington and the weather station on the beach at St. Joseph. Here’s Michigan wind gusts from MesoWest, data from the MAWN agricultural weather stations and Weather Underground (data at the bottom from private weather stations). Check out the webcam at Krupp’s Resort in the U.P. Here’s the U.S. Low Temperature map. Here’s a live look at the Houghton Bridge. Here’s the Consumers Energy Power Outage Map. Here’s Closings.

99 Responses to “Monday Rain”

  1. DF (EGR) says:

    Is it going to rain at all in GR? It isn’t looking good to me.

  2. Mark Breinling says:

    Why is it that everytime we have a line of storms coming at Grand Rapids the storms will split and go north and south of town then reform on the east side of 131 and continue eastward? Today we had a nice line of rain coming at us that stretched from north of Muskegon down to the Indiana like then it disappeared and went South of us. This seems to happen about 80-90% of the time. Its like watching the Lions play football. We think we are going to win and get some rain then no……we lose and miss out again!! Its like we have a wedge to the wast of town splitting the storms as they near us.

  3. Not weather related, but I got good news (for me) I got a job at Target!

    1. Rad (Jenison/Hudsonville) says:

      Which Target ? & congrats!!

    2. GunLakeDeb says:

      Nice, Kyle!! They look like a good company to work for!

      1. Thanks! And the one by 131 and 54th street

  4. Mark (East Lansing) says:

    Sticky out. Looking forward to the cold front.

    1. Brad (Van Buren) says:


  5. Jim S (Saugatuck Twp) says:

    1.4″ here…in the sweet spot I guess for this system.

  6. Travis (Oakland County) says:

    Rain and storms started here about an hour ago… loving it. Looks like it’s going to last for awhile too.

    1. Travis (Oakland County) says:

      Flood Advisories already being posted for SE Mich

  7. Mike[kalamazoo county] says:

    The rain looks like a big miss for my area. Irrigation is the best investment a farmer in S.W. Mi. can make because we all know it takes a 100% chance of a flood to get a half inch of rain here, ready for summer to be over.

  8. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

    All that I gotten is just a mist. Not even a trace here in the NW side of GR. Cloudy here with a temp of 75°

  9. Rob's Wife (Plainfield at 3 Mile) says:

    We’ve barely received any rain at all so far. I just checked my patio and there is a slight sprinkle, but nothing measurable. I looked at the radar earlier and saw a big batch of rain heading right towards us. Checked again a couple hours later after realizing we hadn’t really been rained and on, and saw that the rain had either dissipated before reaching my neck of the woods, or turned at the last second. Still holding out hope for rain later or tomorrow, but definitely not counting on it. My girlfriend who lives in Eaton Rapids hasn’t had to water her vegetable garden in over two weeks. They’ve had a very consistent rainfall there this summer. Here we’ve had next to nothing. 80 miles really makes a difference in the weather. I will say that the upside to the lack of rain is the bugs being a non issue (at least for us) this summer. Over in ER the mosquitoes are ridiculous

  10. DF (EGR) says:

    I’m about to turn on the sprinkler… maybe 0.01″ so far…

    1. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

      Not even that much here on the NW side of town. There was a light mist but not even that now.

  11. Mike (southeast Berrien county) says:

    Got about 1 inch of rain here this morning. Heck of a downpour.

    1. GunLakeDeb says:

      I’m jealous. Just off-and-on spurts of light rain today for us.

  12. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

    Getting rain here on the NW side of GR is a lot like the Tigers getting wins. Its close but no luck. This area may go home with not much more then a few drops of rain if that.

  13. INDY says:

    No rain out at thee YARDofBRICKS Drought 2014 is in full effect!!! INDYY!!!!

  14. People remember we have more rain in Wisconsin coming here for tomorrow so if your not getting much you will have another shot. Plus rain is developing along the lakeshore right now

    1. I will say though that the rain does not seem to like Eastern Ottawa and most of Kent Co.

    2. Rocky (Rockford) says:

      Where have I heard that before?

  15. Ohh and one more thing

    Rainfall update: 0.03″ so far today
    Rainfall in Byron Center so far this month: 0.43″

    Hope to get a better soaking during the day tomorrow. We may struggle to reach 70 during the day tomorrow

    1. DF (EGR) says:

      0.05″ in 26 days in EGR……….. That is pain.

  16. Jeff Northern Ionia County says:

    I am trying to decide wether I will be able to mow tonight or not. Is the rain moving out of Ionia or is it staying for awhile? Looks to me it keeps building over it? Any Input

  17. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    What happened to the high temps in the low 80′s? What happened to the rain for Kent County! Total rainfall today = ZERO, NADA, NOTHING, ZILCH! WHAT A JOKE!

    1. The less rain we get means it will be likely warm up faster in GR. Still a chance of rain tomorrow though but I am not expecting much. Tomorrow may turn out to be a cool day temp wise

  18. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    What happened to the so called heat wave for the last 1/2 of August? I love it!

    1. These outlooks never proved to be correct for August yet. Tomorrow they may finally be on target. Bill seems to side with warm air so we shall see. In Bill we trust! Haha

      1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

        Bill and Storm Team 8 Rock, however the RDB model shows normal temps and NO 90′s IN SIGHT! Imagine that!

        1. We shall see what happen! Regardless nice weather is on the way

        2. matt says:

          Imagine that you locked in the basement again making up golf stories who knew thanks for listening.

    2. matt says:

      Oh no its not humid out at all. You would not know though being locked in the basemtent all the time. Oh thats right youre the new arnold palmer of wii golf. Did youre mom get your back school supplies yet

      1. matt says:

        *your school supplies

      2. Rocky (Rockford) says:

        fixxxer you have a sickness and your ignorance is running rampant! Who knew?

        1. matt says:

          Go play wii golf and think of new lies to try and impress your fellow classmates
          and bloogers. Thanks for listening

  19. Brian(Grandville) says:

    So far today I’ve missed the rain to the east and west. I sure hope this will change.

  20. Dikehopper (Fennville) says:

    For what it’s worth: NASA has been cooking the books on climate change
    My rain gauge showed .9 inches this morning. We really needed it.

    1. Brad says:

      LOL. The conspiracy continues!

      1. Bill Steffen says:

        LOL – the “pause” continues:

        “The five-year mean global temperature has been flat for the last decade… – James Hansen et al.

        1. Smidge Rogers says:


          You are wrong:

          Ten bucks says have the cojones to post this reply!!!

          Your truly

          Smidge in Grand Rapids

        2. Bill Steffen says:

          And I’m sure his funding might be in jeopardy if he said “Boy, that last winter was cold here in the Great Lakes…not what we expected. Great Lakes winters have actually gotten colder over the past couple years and it’s obvious to everyone (inc. James Hansen: “The five-year mean global temperature has been flat for the last decade… – James Hansen et al.) that there is a significant “pause” in “global warming”…er…I mean “climate change”. (Boy that was close…I’d get yelled at if I don’t use the language du jour).

          Remember how the alarmists said that the Great Lakes water temperatures were falling because of global warming (or climate change, take your linguistic pick) and they weren’t going to come back? They’re sure risen and more than a smidge.

    2. Rocky (Rockford) says:

      The “mini ice age” has begun! Everyone had better get ready!

      1. matt says:

        You wont see cause you live in your basement and never leave

  21. Wow the talk of rain tomorrow changed. Sounded like some good rain from Matt at noon. He had 0.20″ for Grand Rapids tomorrow but now it’s 0.09″ in the rainfall total map. Looks like the dry pattern continues

    1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

      By tomorrow AM it will show virtually no rain for GR!

      1. And that’s a good thing?

        1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

          No it is not and I am rooting for rain and cool weather baby!

        2. It will cool down, but then it may warm up again

  22. Imthemom (just n holland) says:

    I had .3 of rain which I am grateful for.

  23. Jeff (Fremont) says:

    I haven’t posted in a while, I’ve been busy with school and a baby, but I came here to say this;

    You Michiganders have no idea how good you have it. You have all seasons up here, there’s no wet season and there’s no dry season, it is a nearly perfect climate equilibrium here in West Michigan.

    In the Summer it’s hot, but not too hot, you have a big lake and a west wind to keep you out of the 100s. You can do anything Summer related here, there is a lot of water, again due to this wonderful climate we have here.

    In the fall you have the beautiful colors of the trees, and a break from the heat, a time when you can open your windows and let the fresh air in, watch the Tigers in the post-season and the Lions during Thanksgiving.

    Winter is gorgeous, absolutely beautiful and pristine, you can do any number of winter activities out here, because this is one of the few places to keep snow on the ground almost all season long.

    Then you have Spring, yeah it can be cold, can be warm too, and you have the spring colors which are beautiful pastels, there is a reemergence of life as the plants and insects come back out.

    Again, you are lucky to have such a great climate, and yet the majority of you complain about something, it boggles my mind. I’m from Las Vegas, let me tell you what our seasons are like; Summer: about 115 degrees every day and no rain. Our other season is December and January, the one time of year that I looked forward to every year I lived there. I can say without a doubt, that the climate is the best thing about living here in West Michigan.

    1. +1 on that. Well spoken!

      1. Lots of brilliant points in there. I could not see myself ever leaving Michigan when I am older unless I have to for a job

    2. Rocky (Rockford) says:

      Hello!! I have been saying this for years! fixxxer thinks MI is a hell hole of weather! What a loser! THE BEST WINTER AND SUMMER EVER all in the same year! It could not be better!!

      1. matt says:

        Youre ranting did your mother take away your fudge sickles

  24. Michael g (se GR) says:

    My dry brown lawn thinks it’s funny that the NWS’s afternoon update says that flooding isn’t really a concern. About 6 drops of rain here today.

    1. Rocky (Rockford) says:

      Yes another forecast up in smoke!

  25. Steven(Cadillac) says:

    My work is on the north side of cadillac by the airport and it was 80 degrees and not raining. I live on the south side of town where it was raining and the temp dropped 15 degrees. Some thunder and lightening also. We need a good soaker.

    1. Brian(Grandville) says:

      Lucky you.

  26. Jack says:

    Time for BILL + His Bloggers 2 Do a ” RAIN DANCE” !! Very DRY…….Stay ” Dance” CUEDDD….& Go TIGERS!!

    1. Brian(Grandville) says:

      Do they play tonight, I Don’t even care right now they way they’ve been playing.
      RIP Robbin Williams. A great talent will be missed.

      1. Jack says:

        Yes, They are ahead 1-0 ! RIP … Indeed , Awesome TALENT !! Robin Williams found dead at age 63
        New York Daily News ‎- 8 minutes ago
        “Robin Williams passed away this morning. … Williams was nominated for an Oscar for Best Actor three times, and took home an Academy …
        :-( . :-( . :-( .

      2. Mark (East Lansing) says:

        Do they even have anyone left to play from last game? This has slaughter written all over it.

        1. Brian(Grandville) says:

          Just checked in. 8-1 Pittsburgh. JV got pulled after one inning! Yikes!

        2. Mark (East Lansing) says:

          Yikes. Might see Don Kelly on the mound tonight.

        3. Mark (East Lansing) says:

          Oh and RIP Robin. One of my all time favs. I have an album of his from the 70s that has a 16 years or older to buy sticker. I didn’t get many of the dirty jokes until many years later. True original. Genius.

        4. Brian(Grandville) says:

          I remember seeing Ryan Raburn on the mound for the Indians a year or two ago against the Tigers. I think he struck out Avila, imagine that.

  27. Smidge Rogers says:


    Anyone interested in reading the report on how climate change is negayivley impacting the Great Lakes can find it here:

    Smidge in Grand Rapids

    1. Bill Steffen says:

      For more than a smidge, I suggest you read this by lifelong Democrat, Dr. William Gray – the only person I know who has correctly forecast global temperature over the past 50 years:

      1. Smidge Rogers says:


        How nice of you to turn this into a political decision, clever move to sow dissension and division can’t say I am surprised though. Very childish tactic, unprofessional too but hey as they say par for the course for this region.

        BTW glad to see that you associate your position with the heartland institute which is and has been wrong on every position they have taken since their pro smoking campaigns.

        There is no debate in the scientific community and if you want to make it political, then you and three remaining deniers in the world should go out for a cup coffee and have your debate.

        Smidge in GR

        1. DF (EGR) says:

          How quickly you’ve turned to name calling…

        2. Brian (Grandville) says:

          I deny it, so that makes 4. Wrong again.

        3. Bill Steffen says:

          “When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.”

          ― Socrates

  28. Smidge Rogers says:

    I meant to turn this into a political “debate”

    1. Bill Steffen says:

      Not even a smidge of data or fact in your reply smidge. How about a list of your credentials to write on the topic? There is more debate in the scientific community now that 12 years ago because global temperatures have been flat: (NASA link)

  29. Smidge Rogers says:

    Meant to say, “turn into a political debate. Darn IPhone

  30. Resourceful Nana says:

    Crazy. Nearly 5 inches of rain in the Detroit area and I barely had 05/100. Yea, that’s 0.05 inch. Wish we could even things out. Rain distribution is getting as bad as wealth distribution.

    1. DF (EGR) says:

      That is a deluge compared to here… :)

  31. Travis (Oakland County) says:

    So much rain over here! Flood warnings, telling commuters to avoid freeways, and up to 4″ of rain and it’s still coming down.

    1. DF (EGR) says:

      That was quite a rainfall, 0.01″ here.

    2. Mark (East Lansing) says:

      I was reading yesterday that your area over to Cleveland would be the sweet spot for lots of rain.

  32. Smidge Rogers says:


    I show you mine you show me yours: Bachelors Science Univ. Of Mich physic major math minor. Other education which I won’t list here other then to say I additionally earned a Post grad certificate in geographic information Sciences from Penn State University. Besides a BS in Meteprology what do you have under the belt.

    Oh BTW Here is what the weather underground out of the university of Michigan has to say about the consensus which you so proudly dispute:

    Sorry Bill, you lose, again.


    1. Bill Steffen says:

      Fair enough – I’ve got a B.S. in both Atmospheric Science (they didn’t have specific Climatology degrees back in the 1970s) and Physical Geography from the Univ. of Wisconsin at Madison. Dr. Reid Bryson was a major climatology professor then (he passed away a couple years ago at age 88, worked until the day he died). Professor Bryson said on CNBC “You could spit and cause more damage to the environment than doubling CO2 in the atmosphere.” Weather Underground is owned by NBC/Weather Channel/GE/Comcast (GE is the biggest lobbyist corporation in the world).

      Here’s the global ACE Index from (ironically) It shows the frequency/intensity of tropical cyclones globally and shows the significant decrease since 2005.

      1. Brian (Grandville) says:

        They keep bringing up the 97% thing, which is the biggest misconception of all. Way too many peole fall for that one.

    2. yooper4021 says:

      Clearly, Smidge, you’re the smartest guy in the room… and I’m just a simpleton from the U.P. Since you swing the biggest stick, what do you suggest we do about climate change?

      1. Bill Steffen says:

        Let me guess – BIG carbon tax, “skyrocketing” energy and utility bills, and gobs of new regulations – limiting your choice of everything from what light bulb to use – to banning that summer campfire – to seeing how many more eagles we can kill with less reliable wind turbines in a state that the DEA lists fair to poor for wind energy: Oh, and a boatload of money for politically connected cronies:

    3. mja says:

      one phrase comes to mind . . . pompous ass

      1. mja says:

        I probably should clarify, that comment was directed to Smidge Rogers.

  33. Swatz_Zoo(Cedar Springs) says:

    Nothing to speak of for rain up here, bone dry

  34. Kevin(Rockfor) says:

    Nothing here…poor grass

  35. Smidge Rogers says:


    So. Corporations are pushing the global warming agenda? Ie Comcast, NBC universal etc… I think not. Your already putting words in my mouth so you have all the answers you need already.


    1. Bill Steffen says:

      Sure some corporations are pushing global warming…we’re already spent $165 BILLION dollars on global warming. That’s quite an enticement. GE stands to make a boatload of money if they can get Congress to mandate certain specs. on appliances that only GE makes. Then there are those who are in the industry of global warming…those who make everything from textbooks that promote global warming to those who manufacture the carcinogen-filled light bulbs that we have to use, to those that manufacture wind turbines. Look at Enron (who gave lots of money to politicians of both parties).

  36. Nice heavy cell on M21 between Ada and Lowell. Needs to go to downtown!

  37. Lance says:

    2.85 ” Laketown twp. North of Saugatuck

  38. Smidge Rogers says:


    how dare the EPA institute rules and regulations that grow a business:

    As for your tirade against teaching science that has been understood for over two hundred years. Ie: co2 is a heat trapping gas
    You might want to review this.

    Finally, I don’t know why I am bothering to share this last link but since you are a “meteorologist”

    Try listening to this program featuring a past president of the American Meteorological Society. It might help improve your understanding of the other voices out there.

    Smidge in GR.

    PS: I don’t appreciate you or your minions here putting words in my mouth or otherwise attempting to speak for me.

    1. Bill Steffen says:

      The EPA can implement rules that grow one business at the expense of many other businesses (and jobs). Thousands of American jobs were lost when we were forced to switch from American-made light bulbs to carcinogen-filled light bulbs all made in China: Doing that did NOTHING to budge global temperature, not 1/10th of one degree. Of course, even that pales to the train wreck of “green energy” boondoggles that U.S. taxpayers have been forced to finance: It’s a great way for politically-connected cronies to get some free government $$ with virtually no government accountablity.

      Thousands of scientists question the degree of warming from a doubling of CO2 (here’s a few: and, as Dr. Robert Brown, Physics Professor at Duke Univ. wrote “the skeptics do not “deny” AGW, certainly not the scientists or professional weather people (I myself am a physicist). What they challenge is the catastrophic label and the alleged magnitude of the projected warming on a doubling of CO_2. They challenge this on rather solid empirical grounds and with physical arguments and data analysis that is every bit as scientifically valid as that used to support larger estimates, often obtaining numbers that are in better agreement with observation. For this honest doubt and skepticism that the highly complex global climate models are correct you have the temerity to socially stigmatize them in a scientific journal with a catch-all term that implies that they are as morally reprehensible as those that “deny” that the Nazi Holocaust of genocide against the Jews?For shame! Seriously, for shame. You should openly apologize for the use of the term.

      Even James Hansen acknowledges “the pause”: “The five-year mean global temperature has been flat for the last decade… – James Hansen et al. (

      You probably already know that (your own?) the American Physical Society is in the process of reviewing their 2007 Climate Change Statement. You can read about it here:

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