Tuesday PM

August 12th, 2014 at 1:59 am by under Bill's Blog, Weather

   Scattered showers continue thru the afternoon, mostly light, a few moderate.  It’s cool – we’ll stay in the 60s this PM.    Here’s GRR looping radar.  SPC has the General Thunderstorm Outlook generally east of a line from Grand Haven to Mackinac Is.  They had added a Slight Risk Area from Ohio to the Atlantic.  Here’s storm reports for Monday, including a report of golfball-sized hail at a wildfire in California…talk about fire and ice.    It’ll become breezy (esp. at Lake Michigan) and cool, with readings in the upper 60s for much of the day (mid 60s in the rain).  Grand Rapids has had 12 consecutive days with high temperatures in the 80s.  We break that string today.  G.R. is +0.5 deg. above average for the month…that will be back to negative territory by Sat. morning.  This is the last of the rain for awhile.  The overnight run of the European model is backing off on the heat for next week as the front hangs up to our south in Indiana.   The 4.57″ of rain yesterday (Mon.) in Detroit made it the wettest August day ever for the Motor City.

Also:  The high temperature of 102 in Boise, Idaho (average high 91) matched the high temperature at Death Valley, California (average high 116) on Monday.  Death Valley had 0.11″ of rain Monday and the temperature never got lower than 88.  Death Valley is -5.2 deg. for the month so far, and Boise is +4.3. Wind gusts reached 72 mph near Tumbleweed Park, AZ.  The first 10 days of August, Raleigh, NC, avg temp (74 F) is cooler than the avg temp in St. Petersburg, Russia (75 F).  Comparing the winters of 2009-10 and 2013-14.   If you didn’t like cold/snow, last year was the year to escape to Florida.

Links: Grand Rapids radar, Northern Indiana radar, Chicago radar, Detroit radar and Milwaukee radar. Here’s regional radar, the College of DuPage Radar Map (pick any radar in the U.S.), College of DuPage Grand Rapids radar, the West Michigan Lightning Tracker, National Lightning Tracker, the local warning/advisory map and the National warning/watch/advisory map,  a surface weather map. You can checkout the late. st Grand Rapids NWS discussion, the Northern Indiana NWS discussion (includes the Michigan Counties that border Indiana), the discussion for Northern Lower Michigan, and Eastern Lower Michigan. Check out Storm Total Precipitation (until they reset it). Here’s the Spyglass Condos Weather Station the S. Haven GLERL station, the Muskegon GLERL station, the Grand Haven Steelheaders webcam and weather station, and the weather station at Holland State Park. Check out the Maranatha Webcam at Lake Michigan and links to webcams. Here’s the infrared satellite loop (night) and the visible satellite loop (daytime), Lake Michigan water temperatures (summer). Here’s recent storm reports from SW Michigan, Northern Michigan, NE Illinois, SE. Wisconsin, Upper Michigan and E. Michigan. Check out the wind and wave height at the South Mid-Lake Michigan Buoy (Apr. to Nov. only), the North Mid-Lake Michigan Buoy (Apr. to Nov. only), the buoy at Big Sable Point near Ludington and the weather station on the beach at St. Joseph. Here’s Michigan wind gusts from MesoWest, data from the MAWN agricultural weather stations and Weather Underground (data at the bottom from private weather stations). Check out the webcam at Krupp’s Resort in the U.P. Here’s the U.S. Low Temperature map. Here’s a live look at the Houghton Bridge. Here’s the Consumers Energy Power Outage Map. Here’s Closings.

61 Responses to “Tuesday PM”

  1. Swatz_Zoo(Cedar Springs) says:

    Nice little thundershower moving over us :-)

    1. DarrenSVRstm ( Cedar S ) says:

      About time we get something Swatz…jeez

      1. Swatz_Zoo(Cedar Springs) says:

        It was garden variety but still music to my ears Darren and a nice soaking, not enough yet but something is better than nothing.

        1. DarrenSVRstm ( Cedar S ) says:


  2. Vincent(N.E.Kent CO) says:

    I see lightning. I hear thunder. No rain yet.

  3. DarrenSVRstm ( Cedar S ) says:

    No mention in my forecast of a possible TSM , nice cal Bill as I was woken up by just tht , lol.

  4. Just woke up and saw it was a little wet outside so I checked my rain guage.
    Only another 0.01″ overnight. That puts my total so far from this system at 0.04″ and 0.44″ for the month.

  5. On another note, its is wierd to see a Slight Risk Area out for parts of Oregon, Washington, Idaho, and Montana. Do not see that to often in those areas.

  6. Mark (East Lansing) says:

    Foggy over here this morning. Had a close call with Bambi, spots and all.

  7. Steve (N. Moline) says:

    So far basically nothing at my house from this system, just a few drops. Sure hoping that changes today.

  8. fixxxer says:

    Nice october day. Typical.

    1. Mark (East Lansing) says:

      I hope it’s this nice and warm in October.

      1. DF (EGR) says:


  9. fixxxerswrist says:

    well its another rotten day. no summer girls with there curls and lady slims. master likes the ones that kiss. the pool is sad mostly kids. master drives around every night looking. i asked about it an master said shut up if you want to keep a job.

  10. INDY says:

    Whooo Hooooo 10 minutes of light rain out thee YARDofBRICKS….Going to Lakeview for ice cream today….Have a great day!!! INDYYY!!

  11. Travis (Oakland County) says:

    About 3″ of rain here last nite with more on the way today!

    Don’t look now, but WXYZ has 90 degrees for Monday August 25th (though it will probably change).

    Forecast is looking great for the end of August!

    1. Travis (Oakland County) says:

      One of the Detroit meteorologists last nite said that if the rain was snow, Detroit would have gotten 45-50″

      1. Mark (East Lansing) says:

        I was checking out the pics from down there. Crazy amounts of water!

      2. Bill Steffen says:

        That’s impossible because cold air couldn’t hold that much moisture. You can get snows like that with mountains lifting the air.

        It’s going to be harder to make 90 in Detroit on the 25th after 2-6″ of rain. We’ll have a few days to dry out, though

    2. DF (EGR) says:

      Whatevertrends has 83°, the game is on. I think you are probably the only one looking at WXYZ so you’ll have to update us…

      1. Travis (Oakland County) says:

        That’s a pretty close spread this far out!

  12. Brian (Grandville) says:

    Not a drop last night. Thought I would get at least something.

    1. I measured 0.01″ last night here. The freeways here on 131 in Southern Kent and through Ottawa County were wet in the rumble strips when I was driving. As well as my deck was wet this morning

  13. Not weather related but this is just me passing along a traffic alertL

    Not sure if the accident is still there but do not travel Eastbound I-96 Between Zeeland and Hudsonville. I drove through there a little bit ago and there is a double bottom gravel hauler semi in the ditch and the left lane is partially blocked. It backs up to Byron Rd. The semi took out a good 5″ diameter tree as well!

  14. Travis (Oakland County) says:

    Here’s what I-75 looked like yesterday with the flood:


    1. Travis (Oakland County) says:

      696 I mean

      1. Wow that definantly looks bad!

        But the thing is I am only seeing pictures from one area of Detroit and its all in that area of the freeway, so I think they may be making it look worse than it really was unless there are more widespread pictures way from this area of the freeway. A lot of times it seems station show pictures from one area to make it look worse than it is. I got 5″ of rain in 2 hours last year, id like to see that area if that happened.

        But I do know someone with a flooded basement so I am sure it was significant.

        1. Travis (Oakland County) says:

          Definitely not a conspiracy. It was awful a lot of places!

          Here’s Royal Oak:


        2. Thanks for the link. Looks bad! Ill take a peak at some more pics from the Detroit news stations

  15. Bernie at the lakeshore says:

    Oh no it is raining and that means the grass will grow again and people will have to mow that grass causing a bigger demand for gasoline and give the gasoline traders in Malaysia an excuse to jack up the price of oil again, :(

    The “free market” does not exist when it comes to oil and gas. Not when the Comodity traders pandering in oil futures have control of oil production.

    Be careful about those winter predictions. The oil traders already have enough excuses to gouge us!

    1. Travis (Oakland County) says:

      Oil has actually been falling despite all the geopolitical uncertainty and a rising stock market.

      Very good to see as more and more supply comes outside of the Middle East.

      1. Bernie at the lakeshore says:

        I am just worried all the predictions for a colder than normal winter will give the banks behind the oil trades an excuse to run up the prices despite the glut of oil in Cushing Oklahoma.
        Not to mention the current weather pattern hasn’t changed much since last November with cold air coming down from Hudson Bay instead of Alberta like it usually does in the winter here.
        The old folks who heat with propane and fuel oil will be hurt if the price of heat goes up before November. Some of them are still paying for last winter. The East Coast cities heat mostly with fuel oil and a bigger demand for fuel oil in Boston and New York City will cause us in Michigan to pay more at the gas pump.

        1. Travis (Oakland County) says:

          Most predictions are for a milder winter that I’ve seen so far, including the CPC.

          And compared to last winter’s cold, the odds are it won’t even be close.

        2. Bill Steffen says:

          Travis, Curious as to who’s warm winter forecast you’ve seen besides CPC?

        3. Travis (Oakland County) says:

          Here’s one:

          Overall snowfall will be down nationwide and nowhere near the record winter of 2013-2014. The overall idea this winter is to keep most of the snow in the Northeast and New England in the East.

          Temperatures will be much warmer this winter than the icebox of last winter with the biggest change in the Midwest.


        4. Bill Steffen says:

          You had to dig to find that one, Travis. You link says: “The trend would be to a moderate to perhaps strong El Nino and depending on where you live this will have an small or large impact on your winter forecast.” We are NOT going to get a strong El Nino this winter. It will be high end weak or very low end moderate. That’s it. We’ve had many a cold and or snowy winter in Michigan with a high end weak El Nino (think Blizzard of ’78 – followed by the coldest February and 5th coldest March in ’78).

      2. Bill Steffen says:

        Travis – The Stock Market is not rising. As I write this, the DJI is down 583 points since the peak of 17,151 in mid-July – that’s down nearly 3% in less than a month.

        1. Travis (Oakland County) says:

          Just like with temps, you can’t only look at the all-time highs.

          The stock market has risen nicely just about every month. We are less than 3% away from all-time highs in the S&P 500. And up about +5% since the start of the spring driving season.

        2. Bill Steffen says:

          There may be storm clouds on the horizon: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/12/business/Stanley-Fischer-of-Fed-Warns-of-Slow-Growth.html?_r=0 We can’t keep running trillion dollar deficits…this is not going to end well.

  16. SlimJim NW GR (1) says:

    Well I did get some light rain here just not much (0.03”) not even enough to penetrate under the tree in the back yard! My wife is over in Bay City and she said they got a lot of rain yesterday and was surprised that we did not get any over here. Right now its just cloudy and 65°
    On a side note Bill, when I seen your report on The first 10 days of August, Raleigh, NC being cooler then the average temp in St. Petersburg, Russia got me thinking St Petersburg, Russia is really far to the north and an average temp of 75° seems way to warm. I did some looking and it appears the average mean temp for St Petersburg, Russia for August is 59° F with the average high being 66° and the average low being 54° It should be noted that it has been warm then the past few days. Any way Bill you may want check the link below as to see if you agree with this for averages for St Petersburg, Russia.



  17. INDY says:

    Well we have had more below normal days this summer then above normal days!! The cool trend keeps going like the snow kept falling last winter!! Lakeview here we come!! Ice cream and sprites!! INDYY!!!

  18. Barry in Zeeland says:

    How bout them Tigers? I didn’t think it was possible to lose a 8 game lead that fast. Typical fail. At least we have the Lions heading for another pre-season championship!?

    1. Mark (East Lansing) says:

      Not looking good for the Tigers right now.


  19. Jeff Northern Ionia County says:

    Is the rain out over the lake ever going to move inland or is it going to stay put today? Hoping it does not rain today.

    1. Hopefully Ionia County stays dry. Kent County needs rain bad

  20. John (Norton Shores) says:

    Just got some more decent rain, have had about an inch of rain in the past 24 hours.

  21. DF (EGR) says:

    ITS RAINING!!!!!!!!!!

  22. Mr. Negative says:

    ADA – Rain!

  23. Kevin (Marshall) says:

    So much for going to the fair today. Yesterday there was a 30% chance of rain… Now it’s 100%!

    1. Bill Steffen says:

      I had 60% chance for today.

  24. Rob's Wife (Plainfield at 3 Mile) says:

    Finally rain! Perfect weather to put the little down for a nap. I swear my allergies feel better too! My specific allergy is ragweed (someone asked on the other post). Usually my symptoms don’t begin until just before Labor Day.

  25. The rain is splitting right over Byron Center. Imagine that

    1. Oops spoke to soon. Just had a cell develop overhead

  26. Just picked up 0.06″ bringing my total as of 1:05 at 0.10″ of rain from this system

    1. DF (EGR) says:

      I would say we’ve had anywhere from a half to a full inch of rain, finally!

      1. Not here. I may just be in last place for rainfall in West Michigan

  27. Jeff Northern Ionia County says:

    WOW it is pouring heavily in Portland right now… If it continues like this for much longer we may have some minor flooding going on.

  28. Rocky (Rockford) says:

    What a GREAT weather day! Much needed rain and cooler temperatures! Still no 90′s in sight! I love it!

  29. Goblue123 says:

    Wow bill give it a rest. I have two questions for you. My first question is why are you talking about winter in August? Maybe I have a bad memory but I don’t recall you talking about summer at any point this past winter. My second question is why is it so hard for you to accept that some of us are hopeful for a mild winter? I’m sorry to tell you this but not all of us want a cold and snowy winter like you do. Can’t we just enjoy the rest of summer first before we start talking winter.

    1. Bill Steffen says:

      Good point…I hope everyone can enjoy the rest of the summer and yes, a lot of people prefer summer to cold, snow, less sun and ice.

  30. Mike[kalamazoo county] says:

    .10 in spots between yesterday and today most spots got nothing.Imo at this point Monday and Tuesday chances for rain look better than this weeks looked because it looks like we might get some heat to go with the instability. Droughts always cost more when a spot is dry vs. most of the corn belt being dry. We are watching yields fall and the price is going down right along with yield if a large portion of the corn belt was dry [2012] prices would be rising taking the sting out of less yield.

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